a massive leap in logic?
about things not revealed in the series yet?
how is it that 'maybe' hearing things is harder and stuff?, if we go with maybes, then maybe you cant make things speak to you at will and thats where Pudding comes in.
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a massive leap in logic?
about things not revealed in the series yet?
how is it that 'maybe' hearing things is harder and stuff?, if we go with maybes, then maybe you cant make things speak to you at will and thats where Pudding comes in.It's heavily implied that Roger could hear the Poneglyphs.
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It's heavily implied that Roger could hear the Poneglyphs.
and is well known that a stone mason-descendent was on his ship.
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a massive leap in logic?
about things not revealed in the series yet?Hearing "the voice of all things" lets you understand poneglyphs. This is well established in the series and is one of the only things we actually know about it. You saying that there might actually be two different types of VOAT is based on nothing and actively goes against what we currently know about it. Hitchens' razor: what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
how is it that 'maybe' hearing things is harder and stuff?, if we go with maybes, then maybe you cant make things speak to you at will and thats where Pudding comes in.
I was saying "maybe" to humor some of your points to move the debate along. This is called "steel-maning", the opposite of straw-maning. I was making hypothetical concessions to get to the core of the issue. It was not a license to speculate about anything.
I'm going to say that maybe the gum-gum fruit is actually a zoan of a rubber tree (maybe zoans just turn you into living things and therefore plants count too). And so maybe Luffy's next power up will be to awaken his fruit and turn into a giant tree.
See how that is based on nothing and goes against established lore? There's no use in speculating based on nothing.
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and is well known that a stone mason-descendent was on his ship.
That was the explanation for how they were able to write the message in the ancient characters. Rayleigh specifically said that Roger being able to hear the voice of all things is how he understood the poneglyph.
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no I'm the one stuck to whats in the series.
I said Luffy is never been seeing hearing stuff, and currently Pudding is the one capable of developing such abilites.
you come up with maybes and speculations.
whats given 101% at the moment is that either is for Linlin, Teach, Luffy, Ym or anyone, we will see Pudding using her ability, there wouldn't have been no point in bringin' it up and giving it so much relevance otherwise.
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no I'm the one stuck to whats in the series.
I said Luffy is never been seeing hearing stuff, and currently Pudding is the one capable of developing such abilites.
you come up with maybes and speculations.
Jesus Christ, this isn't that hard dude…
VOAT lets you do X. Luffy is seen doing X. QED: Luffy has VOAT (this is further spelled out by the seakings). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Luffy has an inferior, or crippled version of VOAT other than him being inexperienced with it.
whats given 101% at the moment is that either is for Linlin, Teach, Luffy, Ym or anyone, we will see Pudding using her ability, there wouldn't have been no point in bringin' it up and giving it so much relevance otherwise.
It didn't have much relevance though. Her having the potential to read the poneglyphs was only used to explain why Pudding is BM's favourite and why she didn't just marry her off to the Vinsmokes like her other daughters. Also it showed that BM wasn't just twiddling her thumbs and is actively trying to find the one piece.
thus, coming back to play a significant role later on in the series, unlike Carrot whom after Wano will be stuck in Zou until great war comes in and she turns into the leading figure of the Minks, which really seems to be what we going on regarding her.
Lol, this fanfiction.
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you're gonna have a very baad time if you genuinely think Pudding wont eventually awaken her ability.
and a second very very bad time if don't think Carrot will turn into boss mink or bring back nox pirates.one for Oda being so secretive of Pudding, her ability and the three eyed tribe and two for Chopper making it reasonable impossible for any other fur character to join the crew.
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you're gonna have a very baad time if you genuinely think Pudding wont eventually awaken her ability.
[…]one for Oda being so secretive of Pudding, her ability and the three eyed tribeI'm not saying it's impossible that Pudding awakens at some point in the series. It's just that her awakening her third eye would not add anything that wasn't already present in the story. So there's no point in her joining the crew. You haven't demonstrated that her awakened third eye would be any different than Luffy's VOAT, or even just Robin reading the poneglyphs.
and a second very very bad time if don't think Carrot will turn into boss mink or bring back nox pirates.
[…]and two for Chopper making it reasonable impossible for any other fur character to join the crew.The nox pirates is just what Pedro did when Roger was dead. His first idea for helping out the bringer of the "dawn" was to directly help him by joining him in his travels. Now that Pedro identified Luffy as the new Roger, there's no point in bringing back the nox pirates, the first plan is valid again. Also, Carrot is having so much fun with the crew that I don't see a scenario where she willingly goes back home to her job that she so easily ditched.
Also, Oda said that he really likes drawing animals, so 2 animal people on the ship isn't really out of the question, especially when their upper lips and the few lines Oda uses to depict fur are their only actual physical similarities. Their profiles, silhouettes, proportions, style of dress, movements, fighting styles, weapons, and attitudes are very distinct from one another.
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reading poneghlyps is what Linlin wants it for, doesn't mean is the only usage it has
there's a giant straw hat in Mariejoa, with a big story to tell, so long Luffy remains unseen talking to things, Pudding is there for the job.and is still a no for Carrot. Chopper does invalidates any fur-themed characters, there is really no way around, we're not getting anotger cyborg, neither another skelleton and not a chance for a second fishmen.
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Hey, of course Carrot forming or joining an allied mink crew is a possibility, and what I like about it is that it keeps the basis of making the character relevant to the story, instead of delusional "hey this character will be forgotten" that never worked in the narrative context of One Piece. I have no reason to assume that this is the highest chance however. Bias? Maybe, but being as she is with the crew now, it requires additional steps of writing and contextualization than simply making her join the Straw Hats for a hypothetical purpose she could very well fulfill in both. For starters, is she even ready to form a crew on her own? If not, is she going to join another group we don't know about yet, with people that haven't been highlighted to want to be part of it? How will this crew help Luffy when there's already an alliance with the entire Mink Tribe working? Carrot has become such an isolated character from her tribe and such a singularly attached character to the Straw Hats that any outcome that assumes that she is turning back to being part of that group she was narratively singled out from seems like swimming against the tide in terms of narrative progression and focus.
It's not a matter of "hey she is definitely going to join the crew", I just don't see a narrative advantage to the alternative. It's just an alternative I respect but can't bring myself to put above what I've grown to expect.
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Once agaian, where is this "Carrot leads Nox Pirates 2.0/ she leads Mink alliance" thing coming from again? Monquito, you do realize there are several characters in the Mink Tribe that outrank her in both position and experience, right? Not only that, Carrot has shown no leadership quality that anyone can rationally assume she would become one.
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"Because Carrot will not grow as a character after the revelations of the dawm that might inspire her to go out of her comfort zone, even follow in on her mentor's footsteps to lead a group. Knowing she lacks skills, she realizes it is okay, traveling with Luffy taught her she just needs good friends to support her in her weaknesses, at the end of the day, Luffy was probably not aware of at what time he had to meet with the crew after his fight with Mochi-boy, Carrot notices that Luffy is helped a lot by his friends to be where he is.
Because it has never happened before that a naive character leaves their hometown and when they come back, they have learned responsibilties that made them mature faster and further than the people that stayed behind."
Denying the possibility of a mink faction, the same way there is a Tonttata faction, is as senseless as denying that Carrot's story is progressing to a certain point. For people that have been saying: Carrot will get further developement in Wano, but absolutely deny her becoming a leading figure among her people, in other words denying character developement, is extremely funny.
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What? No, I'm not denying character development (this is cheating by the way because character development can come in many ways, not only the one that conveniently fits your agenda) and if it happens that way in Wano it will probably be perfectly justified. The chance is there, what I don't see is a reason to put that above my expectation, which is as well plausible, makes as well sense to her current character arc, and requires less of a drastic change in her current state and relationship with other characters.
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we're in the narrative of new waves taking over the old hags.
so yes Carrot can and likely will lead the Mink, or at least several of them.Not necessarily through forming or leading a crew on their own, or else the current Straw Hats would have never joined Luffy. But yeah, as said the speculation is perfectly valid.
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nou, not necessarily a pirate crew.(tho is one possibility)
is been just reaaaally fishy to have two separate factionsin Zou, as if at some point they'd all join into one and they'll need a leadering figure and no other Mink has had development to be considered at all.
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One of the things I like about Carrot's story is that the motivation to accomplish something, that, so far, for all crew members, has been triggered in the past, and most often in the childhood, is done in the present.
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Yes, character development can come in many ways. The issue I was pointing out is that to some, this development is completely nonsensical. While it is something completely normal in other media.
I have long since agreed, something that Shift can attest to, that I have re-evaluated my opinion on where Carrot's character arc is going when putting a focus in the importance of the Minks/the Dawn, but more concretely is: If the Minks need to be on Raftel or not.
As we have only vague notions of what the Dawn is, but we at least know, from face value that Cat and Dog MUST stay alive until then, something that Pedro himself said when the crew saved the citizens of Zou. I am looking forward to learn how all of this comes together, and what does it mean for these characters moving forward.
Alternatively, we were coming from an arc where several faction joined the Straw Hats in their own way, the fleet. In a saga where Luffy is taking on the emperors and is evidently making his own name be spoken among the highest ranking pirates on the seas. I find it perfectly natural that Oda is developing the 8000 fleet members along the way. Something that contrast well with Luffy taking care of the old, and making his own mark. We see, through Luffy, how an emperor is "made". With territories (like his claim of Fishman Island), his followers and his own achievements.
The difference is that Oda managed to fill in 5600 members in Dressrosa alone. Which covers more than half of the total number. Now, instead of keep introducing fleet captains in batches, he can introduce the different factions slowly, and develop them as the story moves along instead of a couple of pages in a cover story.
So, from the end of Dressrosa, I have been expecting further development when it comes to the fleet. The Minks are one of the additions, and I think this can be regardless if a Mink/Carrot joins the crew. These two scenarios are not mutually exclusive.
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Once again, characters outrank her. Just because she's going to be developed doesn't mean she's going to lead the entire alliance when, as I said, several mink characters outrank her, both in experience and title alone. One being the 2 leaders.
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Titles do not mean anything, or more to the point, they are not fixed to the point that nothing can be changed about them. You are talking like because there were characters that outranked her, that her experiences abroad and with the Straw Hats could not have made Carrot better suited to lead in comparison to the characters that were not developed and stayed behind.
In terms of experience….this is even easier to counter act, given that....those characters stayed behind (remained the same) while Carrot is a character that is evolving, dynamic in terms of her progression. When Carrot left Zou, all these reasons were valid. Once she left to travel, is gaining responsibilities from Pedro and is going to learn about the dawn. It is wrong to discard all that and say: these characters still have more experience. They did, but Carrot is going through a crash course to catch up and be more than the naive bunny girl.
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So what about Cat and Dog? This is easy. The same way the Tontatta Kingdom have Gancho as their Chief/King and at the same time Leo is the captain of the Tontatta faction that joined the Straw Hats. The Minks can still be lead by Cat and Dog while there is a faction that is focused on being pirates with X as their captain.
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Titles don't mean much, but you're making it seem like Carrot is going on a coming-of-age story onto the path of leadership where it is nowhere implied. If it was even alluded to that she must become a pillar of strength for the Minks, then it would have at least been stated by Pedro. With what has been shown so far, nothing Carrot has done or action she has concocted have shown any such thing. If you had something to go off on, like visual evidence, I would at least have reason to speculate with you, but seriously, this is just pulling shit out of thin air.
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No, that is the path I would like her to be on, as it is nice development and something used frequently in media to turn a naive person, into a role model or leader. That is the path I like, in contrast to her joining the crew or her going back to background. The same way others prefer the path were she joins the crew.
And it has been alluded to. Pedro told Carrot that the Straw Hats needed to survive and that she would understand the reason why. So even if everyone of the Minks know about the dawn, that does not mean they:
1. Actively seek out to achieve like Pedro.
2. Know that the Straw Hats are the ones that will bring about that change. Except with Cat and Dog. Something that was talked about when they were thawing the sea and being attacked by ants.However, Carrot will understand the Dawn better along with her experiences with the Straw Hats, and with Pedro's dying wish she has more motives and will have a deeper understanding than the rest of her people. Which puts her above them in terms of leading/putting them into this path. That is why the experiences she is gaining now, traveling with the Straw Hats give her, or at least the potential, to grow and be even more important than the people that stayed behind like Wanda or that other dude.
With Cat and Dog missing a limb, and potentially seeing themselves unfit to sail the seas again. The current leaders stay behind with the elderly and kids while a faction that represents them help the Straw Hats bring the dawn to be.
So, more than pulling out of thin air. All these things are in the story. It is okay if you do not see them that way though.
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theres also no indications that she'd join Luffy but here we are.
lmao, I keep forgetting Wanda exists.
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and is well known that a stone mason-descendent was on his ship.
But that's not Rayleigh's explanation for how they could read the Poneglyps. When asked about how they did it by Robin, he talks about the Voice of All Things. And then logic and semantics play a huge role in the interpratation of his answer.
Of course, Oda may be retconning that dialogue now with the introduction of Oden, so it's not impossible that Roger could only hear animals… but that's still a retcon, not something that we should be implying left and right before confirmation.
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theres also no indications that she'd join Luffy but here we are.
lmao, I keep forgetting Wanda exists.
see how much of relevance Carrot has with the minks, I forgot Wanda who's supposed to be a higher rank.I'm not entirely sure what you just said, but anyways, Wanda has the same position as Carrot.
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Wanda has the same position as Carrot.
Wanda is older and orders Carrot around, so I think its safe to assume that she outranks her.
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theres also no indications that she'd join Luffy but here we are.
Is her dead mentor telling her to protect them not an indication? It's hard to protect someone when you're on a ship half the world away.
Also, she's having a ridiculous amount of fun with the crew. That at least shows that she would probably like to stay with the crew.
Purely coincidence
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Wanda is older and orders Carrot around, so I think its safe to assume that she outranks her.
Of course there's an implied seniority, I'm just saying they have the same position…
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Is her dead mentor telling her to protect them not an indication?
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It's hard to protect someone when you're on a ship half the world away.
she'll come to the realization she sucks at protecting people, one person died on her first voyage.
Also, she's having a ridiculous amount of fun with the crew. That at least shows that she would probably like to stay with the crew.
every tag along character did.
no indications so far, if there were any, she wouldnt be a Mink to beggin with.
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she'll come to the realization she sucks at protecting people, one person died on her first voyage.
Holy shit… What a complete failure to understand very basic writing on Oda's part. When has simply giving up ever been something that Oda's protagonists do? Even Usopp isn't so cowardly as to do that.
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Holy shit… What a complete failure to understand very basic writing on Oda's part. When has simply giving up ever been something that Oda's protagonists do? Even Usopp isn't so cowardly as to do that.
you mean like not understanding two furries cannot be in the strawhat crew? mkaaay.
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I do disagree here.
three eyed character, bipolar personality, yonko's daughter and secret ability user, its really much more interesting than Carrot atm.Carrots personality is just boring, reminds me lot of Connis's character.
she's apparently(from I can percieve). being set up to become the leading figure of the Minks.
but in Caharcter-wise, is really Pudding>Carrot.She reminds me more of Chopper when he first joined, except she's on a sugar rush the whole time. Seeing a rehash of Chopper all over again at this late stage is not desirable nor good writing (not to mention all the other similarities between them, or him and Minks in general).
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you mean like not understanding two furries cannot be in the strawhat crew? mkaaay.
why not? Is there an actual reason as to why carrot cant join? If not, say "I dont want her to join"
She has a better chance of joining than pudding does lmao
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why not? Is there an actual reason as to why carrot cant join? If not, say "I dont want her to join"
She has a better chance of joining than pudding does lmao
It's just redundant, which is bad writing. Oda can still make the choice, it'll just be the wrong one if he does.
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It's just redundant, which is bad writing. Oda can still make the choice, it'll just be the wrong one if he does.
Carrot and chopper are two cery different characters though? It wouldnt even be two characters from the same species. Chopper is a raindeer and carrot is a mink. We have a bunch of humans on the crew, so why cant we have an animal and a mink?
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Yeah, the comparison thing with Chopper and Carrot has been brought again and again. It's a dead horse at this point. You probably know what I think of this so no point in bringing it back, because we can't agree either on how close we perceive that similarity or in the weight of the "aesthetics" argument to determine if a character can become a nakama or not.
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It's not just that Carrot looks similar to Chopper it's that she's bland, she's just a generic anime Bunny Girl no real thought or detail went into her design, all the other straw hats have something unique and intresting babout them that stands out
Luffy has straw hat, scar on his cheek and an x on him
Zoro has a bandana three earrings green hair and and a haramarki
Nami was the first young girl we met and got a windmill/tangerine tattoo and has a ring and a log pose on her arm
Usopp Pinocchio nose, different type of hair/lips from the other characters and sniper googles bandana (different from zoro) and an arm band
Sanji always in a nice suit, smoking a cigarette hair covers one of his eyes and has a swirly eyebrow and awesome goatee
Chopper has seven different forms, and his main one has a unique shape (mascot) a broken antler, a blue nose and a giant pink hat with an x on it
Robin, had a nose Bridge and eyes that were completely unique at the time of her arrival and a style all her own….. I mean she rocked that cowboy hat
Franky: Giant arms with stars on them, a metal nose, three chins, an epic cyan pompadour, in a speedo
Brook: A goddamn talking gentlemen skeleton with an Afro
Jinbei fat fishman with a yakuza style, top knot and a scar on his eyeAnd carrot has what exactly, I mean she's a bunny girl but what other amount of thought has been put into her, Robby and Count Mario explain this better than I do, but at least I tried
don't get me wrong I love Carrot, Hell I'd be pumped if she joined, I'm just 100% certain she won't
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Carrot and chopper are two cery different characters though? It wouldnt even be two characters from the same species. Chopper is a raindeer and carrot is a mink. We have a bunch of humans on the crew, so why cant we have an animal and a mink?
Uh, both naive non-world-travelers looking to get out there and explore and learn (at least initially with Chopper, by now he's seasoned; she'd basically be a rehash of him when he first joined, do we really need that?), both non-carnivore species and remarkably adorable furries who can transform into different forms (Chopper being the superior in any case), do I need to continue? I get Oda putting a very tall skeleton, a bulky cyborg man and a sumo-esque fishman on the crew is helpful in differentiating from the half-dozen 'normal' humans on the crew, but adding a second Chopper isn't really branching out very much, not to mention she adds nothing unique. Until we see something from her that really rings that 'new nakama material' bell, the way Franky did just in his Nero fight, it's poor writing to have Carrot be the new permanent nakama.
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Y'know, if Carrot was able to shift between a human bunny girl and her anthro bunny girl form, I might be more forgiving for her being so similar to Chopper since then she'd be able to blend in like a normal human with weird cosplay habits, but as of yet, there's no reason to think it'll happen that way.
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Y'know, if Carrot was able to shift between a human bunny girl and her anthro bunny girl form, I might be more forgiving for her being so similar to Chopper since then she'd be able to blend in like a normal human with weird cosplay habits, but as of yet, there's no reason to think it'll happen that way.
Some discussions here have become old already, so I'm not willing to repeat myself now, since I'll just have to do the same in two weeks.
I'll just say that Carrot is nothing like Chopper to me. Not design-wise, even less personality-wise.
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It's not just that Carrot looks similar to Chopper it's that she's bland, she's just a generic anime Bunny Girl no real thought or detail went into her design, all the other straw hats have something unique and intresting babout them that stands out
Luffy has straw hat, scar on his cheek and an x on him
Zoro has a bandana three earrings green hair and and a haramarki
Nami was the first young girl we met and got a windmill/tangerine tattoo and has a ring and a log pose on her arm
Usopp Pinocchio nose, different type of hair/lips from the other characters and sniper googles bandana (different from zoro) and an arm band
Sanji always in a nice suit, smoking a cigarette hair covers one of his eyes and has a swirly eyebrow and awesome goatee
Chopper has seven different forms, and his main one has a unique shape (mascot) a broken antler, a blue nose and a giant pink hat with an x on it
Robin, had a nose Bridge and eyes that were completely unique at the time of her arrival and a style all her own….. I mean she rocked that cowboy hat
Franky: Giant arms with stars on them, a metal nose, three chins, an epic cyan pompadour, in a speedo
Brook: A goddamn talking gentlemen skeleton with an Afro
Jinbei fat fishman with a yakuza style, top knot and a scar on his eyeAnd carrot has what exactly, I mean she's a bunny girl but what other amount of thought has been put into her, Robby and Count Mario explain this better than I do, but at least I tried
don't get me wrong I love Carrot, Hell I'd be pumped if she joined, I'm just 100% certain she won't
Yeah, with how "unique" and "distinctive" some of these things you mention are (thanks for Zoro's earrings and haramaki and for Nami's tattoo that isn't even visible most of the time… and the Log Pose! I guess Carrot having two freaking gloves with retractable claws is not comparable), I can sense a total lack of double standards here.
Sarcasm aside, Nami, Zoro and Robin all have very functional and rather underwhelming originality-wise designs compared to the other Straw Hats. Oda even accentuates this by using their faces in other characters xD
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Yeah, with how "unique" and "distinctive" some of these things you mention are (thanks for Zoro's earrings and for Nami's tattoo that isn't even visible most of the time… and the Log Pose! I guess Carrot having two freaking gloves with retractable claws is not comparable), I can sense a total lack of double standards here.
I'm not even harping on visual similarities, at this point she's really a composite of numerous different features without anything really 'new'. Someone with ninjitsu skills would be 'new' regardless of their appearance. If Carrot had been living on Wano all this time and was trained as a kunoichi, that would help with her being differentiated from the rest of the crew, even without Sulong (which actually hurts the case rather than helping).
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Yeah, with how "unique" and "distinctive" some of these things you mention are (thanks for Zoro's earrings and haramaki and for Nami's tattoo that isn't even visible most of the time… and the Log Pose! I guess Carrot having two freaking gloves with retractable claws is not comparable), I can sense a total lack of double standards here.
Nami's tattoo that "you don't see" (that you really really do because she's almost always wearing a bikini and sleeveless shirts) is kind of like those gloves that Carrot almost never wears except in combat
also how are zoro's earrings not unique, there's three on one ear and most male characters in this series don't have even one and who the hell else wears a haramaki in this series constantly or even at all? (I mean I'm sure now that we are in Wano we will but that's like 900 chapters in)
seriously you guys are so blinded by your needs for a bunny girl that you completely deny all logic
I will straight up bet you money that she doesn't join!
and again outside of gloves NOTHING NOT A SINGLE THING!!! GENERIC BUNNY GIRL
I put it in caps for you
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-The earrings are not something that outstanding in Zoro. They are kind of just there.
-Nami's tattoo is still not visible a lot of the time, so same case with Carrot's gloves
-Haramaki is just… Okay? And Carrot wears laces and hats, what is the point you want to make.
-Also this is very funny but GENERIC BUNNY GIRL is the only bunny girl that exists in the One Piece canon so far. So following this logic Carrot is more unique than most of the crew.And lol I don't want to bet money. Calm down xD
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Hello guys.. sorry butt in.. eventho i like Carrot character, but i strongly believe that she won't be full fledge Straw Hat crew. At most, she will be like Princess Vivi of Alabasta.
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Infact, just like how Dressrosa arc is helping Usopp powered up, whole cake arc is for Nami and Luffy (and maybe Sanji as well) powered up, I believe Wano Arc will be Chopper (and maybe Zoro also) powered up.
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- Don't agree, there are part of his character design that adds a bit of a rebel attitude to Zoro
- Fine, I'll admit Carrots gloves are a unique enough
- Haramaki - stands out, goes with the swordsman, Japanese vibe, very unique, laces - ….....
- Because Oda never goes the extra mile right? Chopper was just a regular reindeer right? No hat, blue nose and patched up antlers? Or Franky just your regular cyborg? Oda didn't add anything to them to make them stand out
That basically means any mink has the character design fit to be a crewmember, because there all the only version of that animal as a mink, the logic isn't there
gloves and laces that's what you've got, but if that's enough for you to believe in her then I'll just let it be obviously we won't see eye to eye
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Same haircut. Same eyes. Same fashion sense. Wears gloves. Distinctive hat. Knows fishman karate, something unique to humans. Has ties to Luffy's brother,father, Robin, and Jinbe. Was introduced with her current design about a year before Carrot.
Koala's last Dresserossa appearance was in 794, Carrot premiered in 804, a little over two months later.
That's how much effort Oda put into Carrot's design, he reused defaults he'd put onto the previous tomboy girl that was in the manga just prior.
