Sandman. Thanks for everything. Can we please know about what the novel says about the World's Strongest Pirate and Creature?
One Piece celebrates its 20th Anniversary in 2017
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So Kaido just existing is scary ? Lol
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Thanks so much Sandman. The novel's content represent a good expanded universe. In my humble opinion, this would be a canon until Oda does not deny it.
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Got my One Piece's big order today!!!
First I got new One Piece Volumes (OP Vol. 89, OP Doors! Vol. 01 and OP Party Vol. 4) and Novel Ace Volume 2, it's amazing!!!
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And I got new Saikyo Jump too with Chin Piece chapter 1 :ninja:
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16 characters of what the fuck
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Seriously just what the fuck is wrong with Japan? That isn't even funny. Just pure fucking stupid.
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One Piece Doors! Volume 02 color cover
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what is "Doors" if I might ask? is there any RAW out there yet?
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Here is my summary of chapter 3 in ONE PIECE Novel Ace Volume 2. Ace fights Jinbe in this chapter.
[Chapter 3]
According to some information collected by Skull in Spade Pirates, Whitebeard is the strongest in the world.
But the author of this novel says it is not easy to define the word "strongest".
Skull loves anything about pirates and collects pirates goods. He believes Kaido is the strongest in 1 on 1 fight.
He adds that Kaido is the "strongest creature". He wouldn't die even if you tried to kill him; Big Mom is the "strongest family";
Whitebeard is the "strongest pirate" from the way he has lived.Deuce analyzes that Kaido is a dangerous pirate who loves violence; Big Mom prefers business; Whitebeard is a classic pirate.
Deuce doesn't know how to analyze Shanks.Skull opens a sea chart and sets up a chessboard. He says that "Bohemian Knight" Doma, A.O and other pirates are trying to invade WB's territory.
They are not allied, but they started attacking at the same time. It seems other Yonkou(s) are involved behind this invasion.
Some of WB commanders with 4 ships left Moby-Dick to stop the invasion.
Ace says, "It means the defense for white King is weaker than usual, right? This is a nice opportunity to kill Whitebeard."Under Spade Pirates ship, a fishman has been secretly chasing them since they entered New World…
Spade Pirates arrive in a refilling island for WB pirates. The island is surrounded by fog. They heard that WB would come to this island soon.
Deuce warns Ace that some subordinates of WB might be staying in the island. Ace replies, "No problem. If that is the case, we'll just start a war."Deuce feels Ace has been more reckless these days ever since he entered New World.
Deuce makes a guess that Ace wants to free himself from a prison called Roger.
Deuce believes Ace will not be satisfied with becoming Pirate King and getting ONE PIECE since his own father already did the same thing.A big guy appears from under the sea. He is holding a pirate flag of Spade Pirates and throws it away like a trash.
Spade Pirates get mad. A young fishman named Wallace notices the guy is Jinbe. Actually fishmans who were ordered by Jinbe have been chasing Spade Pirates.Jinbe says, "Oh, you have a fishman in your crewmate... You know who I am, right?" Wallace is trembling with fear.
Ace asks with anger, "You... You know what it means!?"
Jinbe replies, "That's my line! Did you know what it meant to burn Whitebeard's flag in Fishman Island!? Are you the brat who rejected the offer for Shichibukai?"Ace releases his fire, which makes the fog in the island starting to clear.
The details about the fight between Ace and Jinbe are not mentioned in the novel.Both of them are exhausted since they keep fighting 5 days. Spade Pirates are worried about them and at the same time,
they are excited to see the full strength of Ace for the first time who is fighting equally against Jinbe.Spade Pirates have not been able to help Ace during this fight since the fight is much higher level than they can get involved.
Deuce approaches Ace and Jinbe, who are down on the ground.
Deuce tells Ace that Spade Pirates will escape from the island with him since Jinbe is too strong, but Ace won't accept it.Spade Pirates notice Whitebeard standing on Moby Dick. They scream at the flying slash from Whitebeard.
The scream wakes up Ace who were felting foggy in the head. Ace released "Flame Fence" so that his crewmates can escape.
Ace says, "Let them go. In exchange, I will stay here!"
Whitebeard waits for a moment until Spade Pirates finish escaping. Ace loses the fight.
All of Whitebeard's words after the fight ("Become my son!" etc) make Ace mad since he feels he is treated like a child.
Some people asked me about the canonicity of Novel Ace. This interview from official OP website might be helpful.
https://one-piece.com/special/usop/20180530_0891.html- Oda said it would be appreciated if the novel handles Ace.
(Maybe this means editors asked Oda whether they can release Ace novel and Oda just approved it. It's ambiguous from the context if Oda mentioned Ace's name prior to editors or not.) - Editors held meetings between Oda and the novel author. They used questions sheets which were prepared beforehand.
Oda said, "I hope the author of Novel Ace will feel free to imagine Ace's personality as much as possible." - Shueisha decided to release Novel Ace Volume 2 since Volume 1 sold well.
- Novel author created the story. Oda and successive OP editors read it and gave him advices.
- Shueisha advertised it as official.
- According to editor Sugita in 2017, the novel author and editor consulted Oda several times when creating the story.
- The name of Spade Pirates ship "Piece of Spadille" was created by Oda.
By the way,
"Red Hair pirates are surprised as well since Shanks has rarely talked about that scar. "
About this line in my previous summary, it seems some people on other forums interpreted that Shanks has never talked about his scar in front of his crewmates,
but that is not the case from the novel.They (at least executives) have heard about it before, but they are still surprised since it's pretty rare that Shanks mentions the scar.
Can we see Thatch Bounty in the novel?^^
Sadly, his bounty is not revealed in this novel..
Thankyou sandman, are you doing recaps for the other chapters?
Yeah, I hope I can make summaries for other chapters, but I can't guarantee since I'm exhausted..
So Ace didn't use CoA against Jinbe:wassat:
The details about the fight is not mentioned in the novel, so we're not sure if Ace used CoA against Jinbe or not..
@redon
Thank you for those pics! About "Doors!" cover page, Zoro makes a spelling mistake for 剣 (sword) and the Kakejiku behind Zoro says 無農薬 (non-agrochemical).
(Maybe someone mentioned it when this drawing was released long ago..) - Oda said it would be appreciated if the novel handles Ace.
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Here is my summary of chapter 3 in ONE PIECE Novel Ace Volume 2. Ace fights Jinbe in this chapter.
[Chapter 3]
According to some information collected by Skull in Spade Pirates, Whitebeard is the strongest in the world.
But the author of this novel says it is not easy to define the word "strongest".
Skull loves anything about pirates and collects pirates goods. He believes Kaido is the strongest in 1 on 1 fight.
He adds that Kaido is the "strongest creature". He wouldn't die even if you tried to kill him; Big Mom is the "strongest family";
Whitebeard is the "strongest pirate" from the way he has lived.Oh, the distinction is interesting, Maybe fore Whitebeard they meant strongest because of his destructive capacity while Kaidou may not be able to shake the world but would win in any duel.:wassat:
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Thank you Sandman…
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Thank you sandman
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Glad to get a distinction about the "strongest" titles. It seems to be as I thought; Kaido is the strongest physically and individually but Whitebeard has seemed to be the most successful in his endeavours
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My copy of One Piece Doors arrived today and while skimming through I saw that they revised the swastika in Whitebeards jolly roger even for the earlier chapters:
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So the novel supports Kaido being stronger than WB. Oda better address it in Wano
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Kaido's introduction stated pretty well: in a 1-on-1, always bet on Kaido. He is the strongest creature. Even though Whitebeard was a "stronger pirate". The Whitebeard Pirates were the strongest crew in total and Newgate was the strongest man. Not only that, he had the potential to destroy the world with his devil fruit ability. But Kaido is probably individually stronger. It is insane to think Luffy will end up taking on a guy that is potentially stronger than the monstrous Whitebeard in the next arc.
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Feels like it's saying Big Mom has the strongest crew.
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My copy of One Piece Doors arrived today and while skimming through I saw that they revised the swastika in Whitebeards jolly roger even for the earlier chapters:
Yeah, those were changed a while ago.
Those aren't the only changes either. There have been a number of revisions over the years.
Just curious, what's with the confusion of 'strongest'? Was there a mistranslation somewhere along the line?
Whitebeard was clearly called the 'strongest man in the world'. 世界最強の男
Kaido, meanwhile, has been called the 'strongest creature'. 最強の生物
Also, while we can certainly consider the major beats of these novels as very likely taking place, it's important to remember that the specifics are still up to interpretation so taking them very literally might be an error.
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Yeah, those were changed a while ago.
Those aren't the only changes either. There have been a number of revisions over the years.
Just curious, what's with the confusion of 'strongest'? Was there a mistranslation somewhere along the line?
Whitebeard was clearly called the 'strongest man in the world'. 世界最強の男
Kaido, meanwhile, has been called the 'strongest creature'. 最強の生物
Also, while we can certainly consider the major beats of these novels as very likely taking place, it's important to remember that the specifics are still up to interpretation so taking them very literally might be an error.
who do you think is stronger ?
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That's my point. You can't just say which one is 'stronger'.
WB is clearly the 'strongest man'.
Kaido is clearly the 'strongest creature'.
If we're talking about strongest 'man' then it's clearly WB. If we're talking about strongest 'creature' then it's clearly Kaido.
Was Kaido's description accurate before WB's death? That's totally up for debate, just as Oda wants it to be. But let's say it was, still two very different things to compare.
If they're fighting as 'men' then clearly WB. But if transformations are open season well….
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That's my point. You can't just say which one is 'stronger'.
WB is clearly the 'strongest man'.
Kaido is clearly the 'strongest creature'.
If we're talking about strongest 'man' then it's clearly WB. If we're talking about strongest 'creature' then it's clearly Kaido.
Was Kaido's description accurate before WB's death? That's totally up for debate, just as Oda wants it to be. But let's say it was, still two very different things to compare.
If they're fighting as 'men' then clearly WB. But if transformations are open season well….
Is there a big a difference between human and creature in Japanese as there is here. Are we supposed to understand that the creature category doesn't include WB and its not a "kaido is the strongest living thing" statement?
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My copy of One Piece Doors arrived today and while skimming through I saw that they revised the swastika in Whitebeards jolly roger even for the earlier chapters:[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/Fq3puFF.jpg[/qimg][qimg]https://i.imgur.com/bdbPdJo.jpg[/qimg][qimg]https://i.imgur.com/LbcysVb.jpg[/qimg]
Shueisha changed Shirohige's Jolly Roger a long time ago. Even One Piece digital version (B/W and color version) changed it.
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–- Update From New Post Merge ---
New event in Japan called JUMP MUSIC FESTA announced. Oda drew a new Luffy's illustration for this event.
https://natalie.mu/comic/news/285609
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Is there a big a difference between human and creature in Japanese as there is here. Are we supposed to understand that the creature category doesn't include WB and its not a "kaido is the strongest living thing" statement?
Kaido is a man.
Whitebeard is/was the strongest 'man'.
The implication is thus, Kaido as a human man probably isn't stronger that WB as a human man.
But like I've been saying for years, it's very, very, very likely that Kaido can become something other than a human man and thereby, he is the strongest 'creature' as a result of that.
The room for debate enters when we consider whether that moniker applied to Kaido while WB was alive. That's what's really up for debate.
Either way I personally consider it this way, if WB and Kaido were in a DF ability prohibited battle, it would likely be WB's victory with respect to strength. But add DF's and in terms of strength (not necessarily technique) Kaido would have the upper hand.
That's been my interpretation based on the raw facts.
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Shueisha changed Shirohige's Jolly Roger a long time ago. Even One Piece digital version (B/W and color version) changed it.
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–- Update From New Post Merge ---
New event in Japan called JUMP MUSIC FESTA announced. Oda drew a new Luffy's illustration for this event.
https://natalie.mu/comic/news/285609
I'll have to check, but iirc, I have a volume, where the sail of Ace' boat still has a swastika on it. the Editors were either too lazy or paying too less Attention to remove it.
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I'll have to check, but iirc, I have a volume, where the sail of Ace' boat still has a swastika on it. the Editors were either too lazy or paying too less Attention to remove it.
English volume or Japanese? Because I'm pretty sure all the English volumes left in untouched, just with an editor's note specifying that it's meant to be a manji not a swastika. I suppose for Japanese editions it would depend on the print run you got…
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Yeah, those were changed a while ago.
Those aren't the only changes either. There have been a number of revisions over the years.
Changes between the magazine and the volumes aside, are there any notable changes that were made in later print runs of the volumes?
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Shueisha changed Shirohige's Jolly Roger a long time ago. Even One Piece digital version (B/W and color version) changed it.
I was aware that they changed the jolly roger for later chapters but not in the earlier chapters for newer print runs. It is hard to keep track what is changed in japanese volumes because licensed content e.g. viz does not update earlier volumes aside from minor technical corrections that were caused by viz themselves. In the german volumes it was changed from the start for obvious reasons.
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Kaido is a man.
Whitebeard is/was the strongest 'man'.
The implication is thus, Kaido as a human man probably isn't stronger that WB as a human man.
But like I've been saying for years, it's very, very, very likely that Kaido can become something other than a human man and thereby, he is the strongest 'creature' as a result of that.
The room for debate enters when we consider whether that moniker applied to Kaido while WB was alive. That's what's really up for debate.
Either way I personally consider it this way, if WB and Kaido were in a DF ability prohibited battle, it would likely be WB's victory with respect to strength. But add DF's and in terms of strength (not necessarily technique) Kaido would have the upper hand.
That's been my interpretation based on the raw facts.
Who do you think the lurking legend is?
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Here is my summary of chapter 4 in Novel Ace volume 2.
Ace joins Whitebeard Pirates as a guest in this chapter. He's not a crewmate of WB pirates yet.[Chapter 4] Ace tries to kill Whitebeard day after day, but he can't. One day, Ace wakes up in a bed in a medical room.
Deuce in white clothes asks him, "Oh, you come here again.." Deuce is surrounded by some nurses.
They call him "young sensei (doctor)" with a sexy voice, but Deuce doesn't want to be called like that since he didn't graduate from medical school.
Actually he dropped out of it after a quarrel with his father, who is a famous doctor.Several weeks have passed since Ace was defeated by Whitebeard. Deuce is now one of the main doctors in Whitebeard pirates.
According to Deuce, medical equipments in Whitebeard Pirates is as excellent as hospitals in big cities.
All equipments are prepared for Whitebeard. Deuce says Whitebeard is not as strong as what he used to be in his prime.
So many people's lives are protected under the umbrella of Whitebeard. They will be in danger if something bad happens to Whitebeard's health.
Ace feels Deuce is implying Ace should stop trying to kill WB. Ace makes a sarcasm, "It looks like you've joined Whitebeard Pirates, right?"Deuce replies that Spide Pirates including Ace were defeated by WB pirates, but Whitebeard forgave them.
It means they are in debt to WB. Deuce says, "You are my only captain, Ace. I'd like to follow you no matter what life you wants to live.
But if you try to kill Whitebeard, you should fight him openly. Don't let me betray you."Other members in Spade Pirates have already worked under WB; Skull collects information. Miharl teaches how to read/write.
Kotatsu (wildcat) is hunting foods. Ace is the only member who doesn't know where he should belong.Thatch is the head chef in Whitebeard Pirates kitchen. The members in 4th division have been responsible for a kitchen since Thatch became a commander.
They are cooks, hunters and fishermen.
According to Thatch, they would have killed Ace including his crewmates if Ace was a bit stronger so that Whitebeard Pirates could protect their territory.
It means Ace's life was saved thanks to his weakness.Teach breaks a plate accidentally when eating a pie. Ace thinks, "What a vulgar guy.."
The big guy Teach looks down at Ace and asks provokingly,
"You are the guy with more than 100 million berry bounty who rejected the offer to join Shichibukai, right!?"Ace is cautious about him.
Teach asks, "You are DF user, right? What DF did you eat?" , but Ace doesn't reply.
Thatch says, "He ate Mera Mera fruit. Stop it already, Teach. Ace is young."
Teach laughs and pats Ace on the back strongly. Ace is about to choke.
Teach asks Ace about the flavor of DF and leaves the dining room with releasing a huge fart. Ace shows a painful face at the bad smell.Thatch says, "Well, he is not a bad guy, though."
Ace finds Kotatsu (wildcat) in Spade Pirates trembling with fear on the floor.
Ace asks, "What's wrong, Kotatsu?"Kotatsu keeps glaring at the direction where Teach left…
After talking with WB, Ace becomes the official guest in Whitebeard Pirates. Whitebeard tells Thatch to be responsible for Ace.
Thatch is busy for kitchen, so Whitebeard tells Teach as well to take care of Ace since Teach is an old member and knows their rule well.Ace complains that Thatch is spreadings a rumor that Ace will join WB if he loses Whitebeard 100 times.
Thatch: "If you lose WB 100 times, you won't win even if you fight 1000 times! Anyway, set fire to the pot!"
Ace makes a fire with his DF without saying any words.
Thatch: "Great! When you join WB pirates, be sure to join 4th division. I'll train you to be a great fire chef!"
Ace: "Say whatever you want!"
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Thank you very much for your summaries, Sandman! This seems like a fun novel to read! Is the quality of the writing good? I have no idea about the author's background, after all… :happy:
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Thank you sandman.
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Funny how ace and his wildcat noticed immediately something is of with blackbeard, but WB pirates after 20 years still think he is good guy. Even more coming from Thatch.
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Here is my summary for the first half of chapter 5 in Novel Ace Volume 2. [Chapter 5-1]
Before Yonko, Roger, Whitebeard and Shiki reigned New World. Thatch says Kaido is a gangster rather than a pirate.
Thatch and Ace are talking in enemy's ship . Enemies were defeated in short minutes. Ace thinks Thatch's strength deserves a commander of 4th division.
His weapon is similar to a kitchen knife with the length of about 1 meter. Vista in 5th division is far stronger than Thatch in terms of swordsmanship.The enemy pirates are criminals for eating foods without paying money in the territory of Whitebeard. Thatch says drugs and slaves are not allowed in WB's territory.
Teach appears with a captain of the enemy pirates on his hand. Teach throws him away like a bowling ball.
According to Skull, the captain is "Pretended Sleep" Racoon with 75 million berry from West Blue.
Thatch decides to sell him to Marines via brokers who pretend to be bounty hunters. The captain shoots a pistol against Teach.
Teach shouts at his injury shedding blood. He stomps the captain with no mercy, the sound of which Ace thinks he doesn't want to hear again.
When Ace asks Teach if he is OK, Teach laughs and starts shouting in pain. Ace thinks what a weird guy Teach is..In a bar, Ace asks Thatch who injured Shanks in Whitebeard Pirates, but Thatch doesn't know someone in WB Pirates injured Shanks.
"Is The person not even a commander..? If a commander had injured him, it would have become big news.. Do you know something about it, Teach?"
Teach replies, "It's me."
Thatch and Ace are surprised to hear that, but Teach soon adds, "Just kidding."Till now, Whitebeard has never released his Gura Gura power during fights against Ace. Thatch is jealous about Ace's fire devil fruit since Thatch is a cook.
Teach advises him to kill Ace if he wants to get the fire devil fruit. Thatch says that is a bad joke and there is no devil fruit he wants to eat if he has to kill someone.Ace asks Teach what kind of DF he wants to get.
Before Teach replies, Thatch says, "I know the DF you want to eat, Teach."
Teach is surprised, "Why.. Why do you know about it!!?"
Thatch replies, "It's easy to guess. That legndary Suke-Suke (Transparent) DF, right?"
Teach laughs, "Zehahaha! You found out the truth!"
Thatch says, "I can understand you. It's men's dream..!!"Little girls gather around their tables. The girls give flower wreaths to them to show appreciation for defeating pirates (Racoon) in WB territory.
Ace can't help receiving the flowers so that the girls don't dislike him since Thatch and Teach have already received flowers.
Ace is wondering if he has received flowers from other people. He was feeling that he would never receive flowers even when he died.
Teach puts the flowers on his pasta and eats them all. The girls are too surprised to say words.Teach says, "These flowers taste good! Give me yours as well, Ace!" Ace gives them.
Thatch asks the girls, "These guys' talk is not interesting, right? Thank you for the flowers. Would you marry me in 20..10 years?"
The girls instantly decline the offer.Deuce is talking in a medical room with an unexpected guest, Whitebeard. Whitebeard calls him "young sensei/doctor".
Whitebeard has a small burn injury on his hand due to the fight against Ace.
Whitebeard smiles, "Ace is getting stronger. I wonder how many times we have fought…"
Deuce replies, "99 times so far."Whitebeard doesn't know the relationship between Ace and Roger yet." These days, Ace frequently remembers the girls who gave him flowers.
Acer realizes that the title of Yonko is given to those who have built up their own territory/world. Whitebeard is not just a destroyer anymore for Ace..* This is a summary for the first half of chapter 5 since it has much more pages than other chapters. @Chrior:
Is the quality of the writing good? I have no idea about the author's background, after all… :happy:
Yeah, I think this this aurhor's (Tatsuya Hamazaki) writing skill is good, at least better than author of "Novel Straw Hats Stories".
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Thanks sandman :happy:
Damn all the hints about BB were there and they didn’t see shit, sad.I’m looking forward for the rest of the novel.
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Teach is a A grade actor playing 5 dimensional chess to achieve his goals. No wonder he is the most pirately in the whole story.
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Here are the sales figures as of June 11 :
One Piece Novel A #01 : 71 163
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So Thatch is like Sanji. Pervert cook that has the dream to eat the transparent fruit.
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Here are the sales figures as of June 11 :
One Piece Novel A #01 : 71 163
One Piece Novel A #02 : 41 574So, less chance of seeing a third volume? Well, maybe it's too soon to say something.
And, thanks Sandman por the new summary
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One Piece Coby-ni Kobiyama - Uri Two Piece spin-off chapter 1 from Weekly Shonen Jump.
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And this romantic-comedy spin-off too.
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That Coby look alike spin off looks fun.
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New Eiichiro Oda interview in Weekly Shonen Jump #34/2018. It's part of the interview from Shonen Jump Ten Vol. 03.
And new Eiichiro Oda Shikishi for Weekly Shonen Jump 50th Anniversary.
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Got my One Piece Doors! Volume 02 today!!! Pretty nice these books, I want more
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One Piece's 21st Birthday Celebration at One Piece Tower!
https://onepiecetower.tokyo/20180706_01?lang=enTwo days of special guests including:
Mayumi Tanaka: Luffy
Akemi Okumura: Nami
Kappei Yamaguchi: Usopp
Hiroaki Hirata: Sanji
Yuriko Yamaguchi: Robin
Kazuki Yao: FrankyThe World Seeker Production Team
Figure sculptors
Tomohide:
Noriyuki Yamaguchi:
THE WHOLE CAST OF THE PHANTOM STAGE SHOW
Myself :)
And One Piece editor(s?)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This event will probably be broadcast online.
If you're looking for times and how to apply for tickets, you may find that here:
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Daaamn, how awesome is that Shanks figure? That's baaaaad. Thanks for the info, as always!
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ONE PIECE DOORS! VOLUME 01 DIGITAL RAW
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https://www88.zippyshare.com/v/c4qi4nph/file.html
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It was announced a while back that something will happen to Sanji in Jump issue 34.
Today it turned out to be a collaboration manga between Sanji and "Shokugeki no Soma" titled "Shokugeki no Sanji".source: 5ch
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Sanji gonna show Soma whos the real cook.
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I wonder if he'll get creative with the foodgasms for this.
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Weekly Shonen Jump #34/2018 preview with Shokugeki no Sanji special chapter, and Oda's message about Goku and his tribute in last issue.
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Sanji spin-off manga will be 35 pages with colored page !