I like to imagine she just sat there and ate some cake while popping out ten kids. Like pouring jelly beans out of a jar.
Volume 85 Predictions/Discussion
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It depends on how old her youngest child is - if it's, say, Anana, the older kids would be closer to their 50's and their designs wouldn't be too out there.
She's been giving birth to children for 42 years, therefore no child can be older than 42.
This means her eldest, Perospero or Compote, cannot be older than 42.
Sandman, OH GEEZ! That's a REALLY important difference!!!!
She's been giving birth to children about every year for 42 years.
This makes it possible to figure out a pretty decent approximation for most of them! Pretty AWESOME hint by Oda there that SHOULD have been included somewhere in the main story long ago so we could have been having fun placing them up until now.
Teach wasn't so different from his current look when he was sixteen.
This isn't problematic because Teach doesn't actually look that old nor is he really that old. It's within the realm of believablity. With some of the family designs though, they've got some serious aging lines, even if we just accept that, in particular, Brulee should look hideous.
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Question: If Doflamingo took off his glasses, how would he look like?
Oda: Another glasses appear under the glasses instantly. (Oda draws the pic. lol)Hmmmm so there IS a reason for why Oda hasn't shown Doflamingo's eyes.
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So, wait, she started giving birth at 68 and has done so for 42 years?
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She's 68 now, and gave birth every year for 42 years, or so i understand from Greg, and Sandman's post.
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She had her first kid at 26 (give or take birthdays derp derp)
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No, it means there's 42 years between the first child and the last child. You have to add the age of the youngest child to Compote/Perospero to get his/her age.
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@AlM:
No, it means there's 42 years between the first child and the last child. You have to add the age of the youngest child to Compote/Perospero to get his/her age.
Japanese Read the accurate translation of Sandman's translation. She's 68 and she's been giving birth to a child about every year for 42 years.
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Her oldest child cannot be older than 42 years. So Greg is right about this being odd.
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Japanese Read the accurate translation of Sandman's statement. She's 68 and she's been giving birth to a child every year for 42 years.
Okay, that makes more sense. But damn lady it's not a clown car! (Justajokepleasedonthurtmemods)
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I did. Still doesn't mean she started giving birth 42 years ago. It means she gaves birth every years for 42 years. No mention of when were those 42 years.
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@AlM:
I did. Still doesn't mean she started giving birth 42 years ago. It means she gaves birth every years for 42 years. No mention of when were those 42 years.
Why on earth would Oda make the statement that convoluted?
"She gave birth about every year for 42 years."
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but she might have had some before
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Do we have faceshots of Opera's bros? I imagine at least two of them are the Cream Punch guys.
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Heck, for sake of argument let's say AIM's suggestion is on the mark though. Oda has done stranger things.
Let's say she was uh, fairly progressive and had Perospero or Compote at 18.
That would make one of them…..50?
Compote? Okay fine, that's acceptable! Perospero? That's still a hard sell!
This also means at oldest Brulee would.... I dunno, something like 42??? Brulee.... at oldest....42....?
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I don't know why you want to believe that. He's explaining how it has been possible for her to have so many childrens. Hence why it's so specific and why he mentions the 10 childs at once. Anana could well be the youngest child, we haven't seen any newborn in the manga and menopause should be a thing.
Sorry din't see your last post. Yup, Perospero looks way older. But hey, Brulée is the 7th daughter and look older than Lilin.
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@AlM:
But hey, Brulée is the 7th daughter and look older than Lilin.
That's kinda my point.
I'm not shocked that it doesn't make much sense. I'm shocked that it easily could have made perfect sense and yet it doesn't. If Mom was freaking old, a GREAT deal of this should have made perfect sense but WHEW, so much of it seems way off now. Like her lack of major wrinkles etc. could have been explained away by her weight. That always seemed logical but now…
I find it hard to believe Oda wouldn't have planned out her continuity before the arc. Impossible even.
But this is...yeesh ^_^;
Ugh...why am I getting the feeling that my Pudding theory may be a pipe dream? Stuff like this is what makes me doubt the complexity of New World developments.
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BM also had really weird looking husbands, if Pound is any indication. Possibly from other races, too. Brulee might be part tree person for all we know. Smoothie might be part Long Leg.
I think the real explanation is just that "they are who they are" because Oda likes to use wacky designs from time to time, but you never know when weird design quirk #43435 will end up having a story behind it in this series.
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Yes, no idea why she's not 10-15 years older. It would feel more natural. He must have his reasons. It might appear clear with her inevitable flashback.
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Yeah, sure, I get that. I mean, we're supposed to accept that Brulee is the ugly witch who wants to look pretty. So there's leeway there.
But…it still could have made sense without even needing such an explanation.
Not to mention the Perospero issue which is true regardless.
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Well.
maybe brulees fruit has something to do with her looks like with alvida?
key word snow white.other options are: big mom gave birth to her firstborn (perospero) when she was 15/16, that would make him 52/53.
Then came Compote and her unmentioned 6 twins, and tada. brulee came when mom was 17, which would make brulee about 51.
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Yeah, sure, I get that. I mean, we're supposed to accept that Brulee is the ugly witch who wants to look pretty. So there's leeway there.
But…it still could have made sense without even needing such an explanation.
Not to mention the Perospero issue which is true regardless.
Does he really look that old, Greg? He looks about the same age as like Caesar, to me.
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Perospero isn't that old looking to be honest. Assuming he's 5x, it's not really odd. Even if he's younger to be honest. Does he really look older than a guy like Bege? I think we all assumed they had to be older from the beginning which altered our perception.
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Torao, I played devil's advocate above with Mom birthing her firstborn Compote or Perospero early at 18. I think that's fair. 50 makes sense for Compote but Perospero? No way.
Remember, that's if we accept that Oda was being wildly misdirecting with his statement which was (uncharacteristically) very unambiguous.
I think we all assumed they had to be older from the beginning which altered our perception.
I can't speak for others but I was the complete opposite. I never assumed Mom was very old until I saw Perospero, Brulee and the others. Before them I always considered her in the same neighborhood as Newgate. Which it turns out, she is ^O^
Does he really look that old, Greg? He looks about the same age as like Caesar, to me.
Check those wrinkles, mate. That's a late 50's to mid-60's for Oda in my book. Not that my book has to be right ^O^ But he doesn't look anywhere near Caesar to me.
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Is it really all that surprising considering the difference in apparent age between Perospero, the first son, and Katakuri, the second. Katakuri looks no older than Zoro did in part 1 and definitely looks younger than all of his younger brothers we know about, like Opera and Mont'dor.
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yeah it would be weird, on the one hand, to make big mom that "young", but then try everything to make the kids older. like if brulee should be over 50, why not make mom a few years older?
But regarding perospero i dont think he looks "that" old:ninja:
then again their looks are all over the place. katakuri(2) doesnt look much older older then Mont'dor(19) who looks older then cracker(10)
and smoothie(14) looks way younger then lola and chiffon(22,23) I even thought lola was around 40, when she was introduced.
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Is it really all that surprising considering the difference in apparent age between Perospero, the first son, and Katakuri, the second. Katakuri looks no older than Zoro did in part 1 and definitely looks younger than all of his younger brothers we know about, like Opera and Mont'dor.
That's an other thing, andre! Katakuri and Perospero, wtf!? Pero looks waaaaaaaay older than Katakuri! I'd argue that some of the younger ones look much older than Katakuri too but I guess we should hold back on that until we see his face. Anyway, I'm in complete agreement that Katakuri's design seems fine or at least explainable. It's some of those younger ones that just…geez, I'm really shocked by this. It seems uncharacteristically sloppy.
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It might also be related to Big Mom's power. Maybe the more lifespan is taken away from you the more you age.
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Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
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That's an other thing, andre! Katakuri and Perospero, wtf!? Pero looks waaaaaaaay older than Katakuri! I'd argue that some of the younger ones look much older than Katakuri too but I guess we should hold back on that until we see his face. Anyway, I'm in complete agreement that Katakuri's design seems fine or at least explainable. It's some of those younger ones that just…geez, I'm really shocked by this. It seems uncharacteristically sloppy.
Here's how I might see it:
*First children: Perospero and Compote: Born as twins when BM was anywhere from like….13 to 18. (Hey, these kind of things used to happen back in the day)
**Next Children: Daughters anywhere from 2 to 13.
***Then Katakrri, Daifuku, Oven, and then the Cream Bros. Or a mix after a bit.Basically, I imagine most of BM's first children were daughters, which probably helped form the base of her crew via her marriages, then came Katakuri and so forth.
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Well.
maybe brulees fruit has something to do with her looks like with alvida?
key word snow white.omg, I feel like you hit the future of what's gonna be of BM.
Maybe, not Brulee's but BM's fruit makes her look younger than she really is, the Tamatebako keeps the drugs that turn you into an old-fart?? right?? omg!In other news, until I few months ago, I was under the impression that Adele(the singer) was like 40 years old, when someone told me she was on her 20's I had to check on Wikipedia.
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Well….yeah I should take a step back and consider whether Oda is trying to be tricky.
I mean, the implications of what her fruit could mean for 'age' are varied!
But I dunno if he'd go so far as to misdirect fans with an SBS answer. He's usually better at something like that by being ambiguous, not throwing out a real number.
Oooh....interestingly enough....this might help explain how Brook addressed Mom.....
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@Joy:
Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
well that's probably on a scenario where the race is ran without any of them using any of their fighting-feats, I mean, sure, Skywalk, 2nd Gear and any of Zoro's sonson etc's make them look real quick, but in a normal race, Brook would just leave them behind, the dude runs on water!!
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IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT TOTALLY DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It completely explains how Brook addressed Mom in 851!!!!!!!!!!!!
In that respect, AWESOME!
Design-wise, Oda, you silly-billy.
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@Joy:
Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
Its not about his muscle strengh, ıts about his lightness. So, this does not mean his attacks or strengh whit his speed would be as strong as the others. He can run on the sea and we know that even Luffy cant do that. It was obvious.
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omg, I feel like you hit the future of what's gonna be of BM.
Maybe, not Brulee's but BM's fruit makes her look younger than she really is, the Tamatebako keeps the drugs that turn you into an old-fart?? right?? omg!In other news, until I few months ago, I was under the impression that Adele(the singer) was like 40 years old, when someone told me she was on her 20's I had to check on Wikipedia.
Yeah i thought about her looking younger because of her fruit, but now that oda said that she is 68, i dont quite know anymore. but yeah adele looks way older too^^
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I always asdumed that some of her children look older than they really are because at some point Big mom took some of their lifespan while those who never got her angry like the sweet commanders look like like their real age.
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I want to take Oda's comment about the editors being perverts seriously, since for a while now, we'been having uncontrollable amounts of fan-service lately.
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Yeah, sure, I get that. I mean, we're supposed to accept that Brulee is the ugly witch who wants to look pretty. So there's leeway there.
But…it still could have made sense without even needing such an explanation.
Not to mention the Perospero issue which is true regardless.
well her being younger than roger makes sense so at least we got confirmation on that
I never expected brulee to be 70 or so
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@Joy:
Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
Its simply running not what luffy does when he's in gear 2 just maxing his jumps
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Wow so Big Mum actually gave birth to all of her children? I thought Oda would go the devil fruit route here.
As for her age, sounds about right for me. Hillary Clinton is 69 and she reminds me a lot of her.
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hillary-clinton-laughing.jpg
http://skutecnosti.cz/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hillary_clinton_yell.jpg
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-crosseyed-3.jpg
Strong and intimidating presence, but also kind of creepy. The perfect pick for the Totland live action movie! -
I always asdumed that some of her children look older than they really are because at some point Big mom took some of their lifespan while those who never got her angry like the sweet commanders look like like their real age.
Removed lifespan doesn't affect your appearance, otherwise Pedro would look really old.
Honestly, I don't really care about how old everyone looks. I know lots of people in their mid 40's-early 50's who have plenty of wrinkles. Plus there's a ton of different dads, so different genes and all.
Plus, no Charlotte child's age can possibly be as WTF as Sengoku being 77 before the timeskip.
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Check those wrinkles, mate. That's a late 50's to mid-60's for Oda in my book. Not that my book has to be right ^O^ But he doesn't look anywhere near Caesar to me.
Maybe Oda is giving fans a message that this is what will happen if all they eat is candy and other unhealthy foods for 40 years :P
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Brulee just has some unfortunate genes, I presume.
Plus, there's that suspicious line Pound told Cracker about them being potentially related. Maybe there's something unusual going on with those births.
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Just got my volume near my house!:wub:
http://i.imgur.com/p19pMpW.jpg
Here is my summary for SBS.
Question: There are some characters who resemble Opera in chapter 845.
Oda: Big Mom is 68 years old now. She was (
has been) giving birth to babies every year about for 42 years.Opera was born as quintuplets.
Opera (5th son)
Counter (6th son)
Cadenza (7th son)
Cavarette (8th son)
Gara (9th son)The highest record of Big Mom's multiple births is 10 (one more than nonuplets) children at one time. The children are now 18 years old.
Question: If Doflamingo took off his glasses, how would he look like?
Oda: Another glasses appear under the glasses instantly. (Oda draws the pic. lol)Question: You said Zoro doesn't eat ice in the previous SBS, but he ate it in chapter 701.
Oda: Maybe the person in chapter 701 is not Zoro..Birthday:
Inuarashi (October 11st)
Sora (July 9th)
Pandaman (February 29th)Question: Why does Big Mom call herself "Ore" (おれ) despite her being female? Oda: I've heard that both male and female sometimes called themselves "Ore" long ago. Even now, it is commonly used in some areas in Japan.
Question: Who is the fastest crewmate when they run 50-meter race?
Oda: It's hard to answer..
1 Brook
2 Sanji
3 Luffy
4 Chopper
5 Zoro
6 Usopp
7 Nami
8 Robin
9 Franky- Brook is fast since his body weight is light.
- Chopper would be ranked higher if he uses Walk Point. (another translation: Chopper is ranked high because he can use Walk Point.)
- Zoro would be ranked higher in the shorter distance race since he would not be off the track. lol
- Franky is ranked low since he is heavy.
Question: Why doesn't Sanji's eyes turn into hearts when he is talking with Reiju?
Oda: That's how it is with brothers/sisters, right?
I used to get in numerous fights with my elder sister when I was a kid.
It would be weird if Sanji turned his eyes into hearts to talk with Reiju.-
The girl in chapter 651 is the same person as Pudding.
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Mink Tribe can eat birds, reptiles and amphibians except animals with hair.
Question: How can I become an editor in Jump? Did editors graduate from famous colleges?
Oda: I can feel your seriousness. It's true that Shueisha has many highly educated editors, but most of them are perverts.
You have a possibility to enter Shueisha if you graduate from a four‐year college.
I hope you will become ONE PIECE editor without becoming a pervert in the future.Question: The 2nd division commander before Ace is me.
Oda: You're kidding!!Question: Where should I display my Nami character figure?
Oda: Who knows!!Very interesting, very funny SBS. Just gonna try not to think too hard about the Big Mom stuff lmao
Thanks for your work, Sandman. Are there any more images to share? I'm interested to see what the inside title page is.
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@Kaido:
Plus, no Charlotte child's age can possibly be as WTF as Sengoku being 77 before the timeskip.
He worked out a lot, obviously.
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I do not understand what Oda means by "Maybe the person in chapter 701 is not Zoro…". It that a way to admit he made a mistake or there is a secret meaning behind this?
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I wonder which of Opera's brothers are which, from the scene with the enraged army. One had a woman on his arm, another wore stripes, another wore suspenders.
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Does this exclude the possibility of her using her DF to influence the children ? I kind of expected her to be able to vary the amount of life and maybe furthermore prowess which is passed on to her newborns. Although this theory is somewhat diminished by the fact that she had so many multiples unless she can also control that which is probably going to far.
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Wow so Big Mum actually gave birth to all of her children? I thought Oda would go the devil fruit route here.
As for her age, sounds about right for me. Hillary Clinton is 69 and she reminds me a lot of her.
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hillary-clinton-laughing.jpg
http://skutecnosti.cz/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hillary_clinton_yell.jpg
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-crosseyed-3.jpg
Strong and intimidating presence, but also kind of creepy. The perfect pick for the Totland live action movie!Well Pudding does have deletion powers…
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I was sure Oda will never confirm BM's or her kids' (outside of maybe a selected few) ages due to it being next to impossible to make it work completely at this point. It's not Bleach's timeline level of bad, but it really looks werd.
EDIT: Oh, and while Brook being the fastest (on short distances at least) was to be expected, it's nice to have a confirmation in a year that was already so great for Brook. But Usopp… he was alway quite fast, but as the time goes I understand less and less just how is he supposed to be the weakest crewmember. I mean, incredible endurance, good speed, one of the SH's best tacticians. Literally the only thing he might be the worst in the crew (or just worse than Nami) is punching power, and even that I doubt.
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I'm interested to see what the inside title page is.
You mean this page? Pandaman and Tomato Gang..:ninja:
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@Rivaille:It that a way to admit he made a mistake
That's right.
I'm a bit envious that drawings from a reader named "I love OP" got featured twice in this volume, one in SBS header and the other in Usopp Gallery.
She has got featured in OP volumes so many times.