@xan:
Why would they take hostages if they are affiliated to ISIS is beyond me
More than 20 dead Xan,R.I.P to those who died.
@xan:
Why would they take hostages if they are affiliated to ISIS is beyond me
More than 20 dead Xan,R.I.P to those who died.
More than 20 dead Xan,R.I.P to those who died.
Sorry if I sounded insensitive (which I did) but what I meant was that holding hostages on a standoff didn't seem like how ISIS seemed to work. So people putting them in the ISIS bucket seems to just worsen the fear against them. The fact that ISIS are losing ground territory but yet the hate against them is only increasing is terrible news when you consider islamaphobic war mongering leaders are on the rise in many countries
Terrible event of course! It's very unfortunate that during the month of Ramadan the attacks are getting highlighted which helps islamaphobes even more
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@xan:
Sorry if I sounded insensitive (which I did) but what I meant was that holding hostages on a standoff didn't seem like how ISIS seemed to work. So people putting them in the ISIS bucket seems to just worsen the fear against them. The fact that ISIS are losing ground territory but yet the hate against them is only increasing is terrible news when you consider islamaphobic war mongering leaders are on the rise in many countries
Terrible event of course! It's very unfortunate that during the month of Ramadan the attacks are getting highlighted which helps islamaphobes even more
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They've been claiming responsibilities for a numerous amount of Lone Wolf attacks on secular atheists , secular bloggers, Hindu worshippers and other minorities across Bangladesh in the last 3 years (IIRc prior to this attack , 13-16 have been killed.).
The rise of the far right across the world is indeed quite concerning.
They've been claiming responsibilities for a numerous amount of Lone Wolf attacks on secular atheists , secular bloggers, Hindu worshippers and other minorities across Bangladesh in the last 3 years (IIRc prior to this attack , 13-16 have been killed.).
There has been but the so called ISIS affiliated ones were very less because there were many other groups in Bangladesh for quite some time who have recently jumped into the brand name bandwagon. Al qaeda have historically had its presence in Bangladesh than ISIS to be specific. This was one of the latest ones where ISIS was supposedly directly involved unlike the others
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Just read that they specifically let few of the non-foreigners and locals out and didn't really request any sort of ransom. More proof that existing terror groups are infusing the ISIS blueprint now
As a neighboring country of Bangladesh, the escalating situation there over the past 5 years or so is quite worrying for us.
http://www.thelocal.se/20160630/man-detained-in-sweden-over-poison-plot
Wtf kind of plot is this even. Man randomly tries to extort Czech state for bitcoins with stolen poison.
In what universe did he think this was a solid plan that he could get away with.
http://www.thelocal.se/20160629/swedish-police-to-hand-out-anti-groping-armbands
And Swedish police launches it's least effective campaign against harrasment yet. You have to be special kind of optimist to think that wristbands that read "don't grope me" are supposed to deter would-be group predators/rapists at summer festivals
@xan:
There has been but the so called ISIS affiliated ones were very less because there were many other groups in Bangladesh for quite some time who have recently jumped into the brand name bandwagon. Al qaeda have historically had its presence in Bangladesh than ISIS to be specific. This was one of the latest ones where ISIS was supposedly directly involved unlike the others
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Just read that they specifically let few of the non-foreigners and locals out and didn't really request any sort of ransom. More proof that existing terror groups are infusing the ISIS blueprint now
As a neighboring country of Bangladesh, the escalating situation there over the past 5 years or so is quite worrying for us.
They tend to claim an attack on anything that is abnormal (in terms of the state of the violence), just for the sake of it. Bangladesh case has been quite worrying. They also executed Nizami for his crimes during the 71 war of independence/
Some groups do use certain fanatics group names aswell.
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131 have been killed so far due to a car bombing in Baghdad, more than 200 injured. Isil claimed responsibility.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/iraq-baghdad-bombings-kill-23-160703045945293.html
An Emirati tourist who in the US for medical reasons (had a stroke a year ago) was wrongfully arrested after a women claimed that he shouted allegiance to I.S and due to the traditional outfit he wore.
Absolutely ridiculous.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/uae-emirati-national-arrested-ohio-160703175655166.html
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3662823?client=safari#
So instead of coming to the people who were running the Toronto Gay Pride March and be apart of the parade before it occurred, a BLM group held a sit-in in front of the start of the parade and refused to move until their demands were met, which included taking out the Toronto police float and the gay officers that were marching in the parade.
Because nothing says solidarity like strong-arming a group into taking your demands and then once it's done say we are all together.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3662823?client=safari#
So instead of coming to the people who were running the Toronto Gay Pride March and be apart of the parade before it occurred, a BLM group held a sit-in in front of the start of the parade and refused to move until their demands were met, which included taking out the Toronto police float and the gay officers that were marching in the parade.
Because nothing says solidarity like strong-arming a group into taking your demands and then once it's done say we are all together.
Maybe it's because i'm a white male, and hence can't, as i've been told, understand anything about anything. But it hardly seems like good move on prides part to bar certain gay people from marching because of their occupation. Wouldn't it be fair to say that it's a slippery slope when you or some special interest group get to decide who get's to have gay pride.
gotta love people who defend turkey, even though it's a shithole.
The place that denies the Armenian genocide. I mean always knew they denied it, but I actually wasn't aware of article 301. I'm proud to live in a place that is well developed. You just realize how many places are shitholes.
But interesting how in other places ( I believe Austria and Germany) you can get arrested for denying the holocaust. I do realize people who deny it are complete retards. But I think putting them in prison is violation of freedom of speech (at least here in america).
I believe both are in the wrong. yes, people who deny the holocaust are idiots, but even idiots should have freedom of speech.
A doctor from Texas was shot/stabbed outside his mosque during the night.
gotta love people who defend turkey, even though it's a shithole.
The place that denies the Armenian genocide. I mean always knew they denied it, but I actually wasn't aware of article 301. I'm proud to live in a place that is well developed. You just realize how many places are shitholes.
But interesting how in other places ( I believe Austria and Germany) you can get arrested for denying the holocaust. I do realize people who deny it are complete retards. But I think putting them in prison is violation of freedom of speech (at least here in america).
I believe both are in the wrong. yes, people who deny the holocaust are idiots, but even idiots should have freedom of speech.
Have Germany recognised the Namibian genocide?
Erdogan is an authoritarian though the secularists who are against freedom of religion (when Islam constitutes 95% of the population) themselves aren't any better, referring the band of Hijab in certain places.
Brazilian news
Olympics
http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/rio-police-warn-visitors-with-welcome-to-hell-sign/ Also, apparently we are going to have a referendum in August to separate the south of Brazil, I think it was influenced by the Brexit.
Brazilian news
Olympics
http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/rio-police-warn-visitors-with-welcome-to-hell-sign/ Also, apparently we are going to have a referendum in August to separate the south of Brazil, I think it was influenced by the Brexit.
Secession for everyone.
If it leads to Texas seceding from the U.S. then I'm happy.
Happy with a stupid decision like Brexit?
Texas seceded from the US and instantly gets torn to pieces by the US military because we're not dumb enough to allow secession via referendum in this country.
@Cyan:
Texas seceded from the US and instantly gets torn to pieces by the US military because we're not dumb enough to allow secession via referendum in this country.
Sooo would the independent nation of Texas be a nuclear power?:ninja:
gotta love people who defend turkey, even though it's a shithole.
I'd hardly call it a shit-hole, its not first world or anything but its on that sort of Brazil/Mexico level.
Istanbul is an impressive metropolis, and that's coming from a New York City area person. Turkey's slummy super garbage areas are mostly the areas where the Kurds live out east.
I love how people look at the United Kingdom leaving the EU using a provision that actually exists and decide that they can do the same thing in countries without anything of the sort.
Explosion has occurred outside the Prophet's (P.B.U.H) Mosque, in the holy city of Medina. Qatif too; [http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/saudi-arabia-qatif-explosion-160704165007140.html
M](http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/saudi-arabia-qatif-explosion-160704165007140.html)edina is the second most holiest place in Islam, Qatif is a Shia majority place.
I love how people look at the United Kingdom leaving the EU using a provision that actually exists and decide that they can do the same thing in countries without anything of the sort.
To be fair aren't most cagings that keeps them in a union more or less self-imposed agreements?
I mean short of military subjugation and occupation, what could you really do to force a state to remain in the union? I mean soft power and mutual benefits realisticly works to keep people wanting in rather than out. But even that seems more voluntary. There is nothing that says that you as a group have to make the move that is the most beneficial to you. Or am i missing something?
If it leads to Texas seceding from the U.S. then I'm happy.
Why the fuck would you actually want that. That would be awful for literally everyone involved except the dozen hillbillies that think it's a good idea.
, and they would very quickly discover it was in fact an awful idea.
I mean short of military subjugation and occupation, what could you really do to force a state to remain in the union? I mean soft power and mutual benefits realisticly works to keep people wanting in rather than out. But even that seems more voluntary. There is nothing that says that you as a group have to make the move that is the most beneficial to you. Or am i missing something?
Not pay for their roads, schools, medical, wellfare, social security, trash, mail delivery, other government programs that they obviously take for granted…Suddenly have to make a new currency and have it devalued... Add in that there would be a huge hike in local taxes to then cover those things... plus there would be a charge of enormous fees to have anything cross the border including food ... and people that have been citizens for their entire lives suddenly have to shill out the time, money and paperwork to get proper passports to go anywhere.... plus things like sports teams being excluded would certainly sting and fuck over the economy. I can't understand why anyone would want to abandon that and turn into a cesspit literally overnight.
And actually, the US rules actually do have provisions for no one leaving on their own accord since that would obviously be chaos for a ton of reasons. We had a civil war before and that was a bad thing.
I mean short of military subjugation and occupation, what could you really do to force a state to remain in the union?
Well, in Texas or any other state's case, you simply pull all of their funding and shut down government facilities while watching their economy completely meltdown. Or, more likely, you just wait for the Court System to declare the referendum irrelevant because states don't have the legal right to secede from the Union per Texas v. White and then continue on as if nothing happened. You might have to tell local law enforcement to go put back up signs that some moron ripped down or evict some idiots.
At any rate, the problem comes back down to people assuming that one political organization having a provision necessarily carries over to other, unrelated political organizations having that same provision and that's just stupid.
It's like saying that Warsaw Pact countries would have been obligated to defend the United Kingdom from outside attack because NATO was.
Not pay for their roads, schools, medical, wellfare, social security, trash, mail delivery, other government programs that they obviously take for granted…Suddenly have to make a new currency and have it devalued... Add in that there would be a huge hike in local taxes to then cover those things... plus there would be a charge of enormous fees to have anything cross the border including food ... and people that have been citizens for their entire lives suddenly have to shill out the time, money and paperwork to get proper passports to go anywhere.... plus things like sports teams being excluded would certainly sting and fuck over the economy. I can't understand why anyone would want to abandon that and turn into a cesspit literally overnight.
And actually, the US rules actually do have provisions for no one leaving on their own accord since that would obviously be chaos for a ton of reasons. We had a civil war before and that was a bad thing.
Well, in Texas or any other state's case, you simply pull all of their funding and shut down government facilities while watching their economy completely meltdown. Or, more likely, you just wait for the Court System to declare the referendum irrelevant because states don't have the legal right to secede from the Union per Texas v. White and then continue on as if nothing happened. You might have to tell local law enforcement to go put back up signs that some moron ripped down or evict some idiots.
My thought was really mostly "What is a an agreement worth when one party decides to not honor it".
In that you can't leave the union because we have a paper that says you can't seemed rather flimsy a cage.
It's just a silly what if argument from me really, not based in anything real nor in any knowledge about the subject either.
But yeah i guess holding their economy and supply lines hostage is up there with armed troops in terms of convicing
@Monkey:
I'd hardly call it a shit-hole, its not first world or anything but its on that sort of Brazil/Mexico level.
Istanbul is an impressive metropolis, and that's coming from a New York City area person. Turkey's slummy super garbage areas are mostly the areas where the Kurds live out east.
well I consider those places shitholes too. Brazil thinks honor killings are ok, and mexico lolz…
turkey the place where you can get arrested for insulting turkey? like admitting to the Armenian genocide you kidding me right? Also, just had a family member tell me they believe in the quran. I'm scared. Not like oh im scared that they are violent or whatever (obviously most arent). But the book is a inherently atrocious books that has some pretty awful stuff in it. And these beliefs are harmful.
I like how people think if Tx left, it'd somehow be a good thing like we'd be an equal to the US or something. But then they'd realize the US would still be a nuclear superpower and we'd probably become Mexico 2
It would be an asinine decision if the US allowed the Texans secede, wasn't there a clause in your constitution that forbade such actions, IIRC after the Civil war?
Also, just had a family member tell me they believe in the quran. I'm scared. Not like oh im scared that they are violent or whatever (obviously most arent). But the book is a inherently atrocious books that has some pretty awful stuff in it. And these beliefs are harmful.
Yeah sure lol, that one holy book is just the worst, unlike the other ones. Totes unique situation, this time.
well I consider those places shitholes too. Brazil thinks honor killings are ok, and mexico lolz…
Exactly how many years ago did Ireland stop being poor?
well I consider those places shitholes too. Brazil thinks honor killings are ok, and mexico lolz…
"they're a shithole because they're poor and uneducated"
as if they're not secluded in their own society and barely have any knowledge of modern societies outside of theirs. as if they had a choice to be criminals right?
the amount of over privilege in that line is unbelievable.
@Monkey:
Yeah sure lol, that one holy book is just the worst, unlike the other ones. Totes unique situation, this time.
Exactly how many years ago did Ireland stop being poor?
Actually, nothing wrong with the new testament. And quaran is pretty bad.
I don't care lol. Ireland is well off now I suppose. i don't care about said place anymore.
did you watch the world cup btw? you're american born so Im guessing a no as you might think soccer is boring. But was hilarious to see a bunch of people rally and riot because brazil treats soccer like a religion. Spends billions of dolalrs they dont have because they have the biggest hardons for soccer, and then lose their shits when brazil loses to germany.
Thanks for playing again, Earthquake.
Actually, nothing wrong with the new testament.
The very act of handwaving the Old Testament is the ultimate cop out in ridiculous arguments like these to begin with. But the idea that the New Testament hasn't played its role in negativities and has nothing questionable in it is silly to say the least.
But hey even engaging with that would be engaging with the ultra cop-out.
I don't care lol. Ireland is well off now I suppose. i don't care about said place anymore.
Ah there's that convenient-history-amnesia that is basically a requirement to make the "ISLAM IS UNIQUELY DANGEROUS" bullshit argument.
Right man, sure, all that matters or counts is what happens recently.
Oh he's banned already? I wanted to respond as well :sad:
Seriously though, what the hell.
Turkey, Brazil ane Mexico being shitholes?
Quran being bad?
I was wondering if he was some kind of a troll.
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Forgot the main thing I came here for.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36706761?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook
How does this even work. Why.
http://www.nme.com/news/mumford-and-sons/94785 Not a good start for this summer
http://www.nme.com/news/mumford-and-sons/94785 Not a good start for this summer
It would seem those bracelets are unsurprisingly useless.
Oh he's banned already? I wanted to respond as well :sad:
Seriously though, what the hell.
Turkey, Brazil ane Mexico being shitholes?
It's the kind of viewpoint a person from a first world country could only hold, since compared to the vast majority of countries those three are pretty fine, and there's plenty of the population living essentially the same as anyone from a first world country.
In a world where places like Afghanistan and DR Congo exist its super sheltered to really throw the word shithole at those three.
They have major problems the like of which a first world country can't imagine (anymore) but still.
i don't think it's right to call any country a shithole. i think colombia is the last place on earth i'd want to visit, there's wars between the cartels and the army, drugs, kidnapping…etc do i have a right to call it a shithole? no. it feels like mocking a disabled person imo, because it had no choice in being this way (atleast the majority of it's people didn't).
i don't think it's right to call any country a shithole. i think colombia is the last place on earth i'd want to visit, there's wars between the cartels and the army, drugs, kidnapping…etc do i have a right to call it a shithole? no. it feels like mocking a disabled person imo, because it had no choice in being this way (atleast the majority of it's people didn't).
Its not the country itself or its culture being talked about. Its living standards, stability, infrastructure etc.
http://www.nme.com/news/mumford-and-sons/94785 Not a good start for this summer
Scary :sad:
@Monkey:
It's the kind of viewpoint a person from a first world country could only hold, since compared to the vast majority of countries those three are pretty fine, and there's plenty of the population living essentially the same as anyone from a first world country.
In a world where places like Afghanistan and DR Congo exist its super sheltered to really throw the word shithole at those three.
They have major problems the like of which a first world country can't imagine (anymore) but still.
I had always gotten an idea that Turkey and Brazil are pretty developed as well, myself. I get where he's coming from though, but I don't know, I think even living in a less developed country like mine is decent enough for plenty of people (not majority though).
The differences come pretty noticeable when we change an environment or at least get to know other either more or less developed lifestyles, yes, I guess.
But every post of that guy seemed pretty ignorant and that was noticeable even for me, who lacks knowledge in comparison to all of you.
To be fair, I mostly agree with banned guy about Brazil. Can't really say it's a shithole, but yeah, not the best place to live on.
Not the best place to live on ≠ shithole
We do have shitholes, but I would say most people in the country have mediocre to fine living standards.
Wow. That was a lot of bullshit from one person.
Hey guys, was it Veris who got banned. Just got home and wanna dive into the debates
That member had a cartoonish view of the world, lol..thinking that all the riot that is happening in Brazil is due to soccer. Brazil has problems, but it is not a shit hole.No respect, at all.
Wow. That was a lot of bullshit from one person.Hey guys, was it Veris who got banned. Just got home and wanna dive into the debates
Veris was another iteration of Earthquake, who is consistently banned for his poor, offensive posts. He was doing okay for a while but that ended yesterday, it seems.
That member had a cartoonish version of the world, lol..thinking that all the riot that is happening in Brazil is due to soccer. Brazil has problems, but it is not a shit hole.
No respect, at all.
You know, I was about to PM you to ask if u had seen what was going on here since Brazil was mentioned
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Veris was another iteration of Earthquake, who is consistently banned for his poor, offensive posts. He was doing okay for a while but that ended yesterday, it seems.
Yeah, he had been ok for some weeks now. I guess you can't hid character for long huh
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I've done my fair share of travelling and working in 1st to 3rd world countries and as we all may suspect, there are shitholes & similitudes of it in every country.
You know, I was about to PM you to ask if u had seen what was going on here since Brazil was mentioned
Yeah, I was aware of this little defamatory demonstration. Thanks for thinking about me ;)
What that member pointed was just the point of the iceberg of our problems, it showed how little he/she knows about others countries. Soccer is the least of our problems, and with the loss to Germany, I guess Brazil will focus on more important problems.
DRC as a nation needs to be split up to be honest, instability since the Congo crisis.
Too many ethnic clashes (Africa is the most diverse place on earth).
DRC as a nation needs to be split up to be honest, instability since the Congo crisis. Too many ethnic clashes (Africa is the most diverse place on earth).
Is this in relation to something specific? I haven't seen the DRC come up in any news.Most of Africa's political borders were drawn by Europeans with little regard for culture or history. The DRC isn't the only country that could do with more appropriate borders.
Is this in relation to something specific? I haven't seen the DRC come up in any news.Most of Africa's political borders were drawn by Europeans with little regard for culture or history. The DRC isn't the only country that could do with more appropriate borders.
DRC's main geographical problem is the vast distances between things paired with how incredibly horrible even the infrastructure is to begin with. The really really bad areas are in the far east, while the capital is in the far west. Issues of lawlessness and lacking central authority become all the worse.
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DRC as a nation needs to be split up to be honest, instability since the Congo crisis.
Too many ethnic clashes (Africa is the most diverse place on earth).
A lot of that diversity is down to a historic lack of strong centralizing states that would have homogenized things more as happened in Europe.