I would love to see the whole statement of Zoro
Chapter 814: Let's go see Master Nekomamushi
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Don't base you impressions of a chapter on a translation that's meant to be fast rather than accurate. And don't make any dialogue or text analysis based on it either.
If you're able to get the Viz subscription, GET IT. So many people misunderstand the plot because they read scan releases and the misunderstandings snowball into becoming "accepted information" before they can get corrected.
Stephen is a very good translator. His translation of OP is the very best in English. Buy the official version and support the manga.
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He didn't complain when Luffy made an alliance with Law to fight Kaidou one arc after declaring war on Big Mom.
Now he is.I think there is a big difference. Sanji action means they have now to cope with both emperors at the same time which wasn't really the case back in Punk Hazard.
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I think there is a big difference. Sanji action means they have now to cope with both emperors at the same time which wasn't really the case back in Punk Hazard.
So what if Sanji said no, I'm not going to your tea party? Big mom pirates would just leave, find another groom and SH would only have to worry about Kaidou?
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Pirate minks on an elephant?
http://82.165.128.41/static/thbs/x/xxuGmuQpoQ_w320.jpgSandokan cartoon series
http://217.160.95.108/static/thbs/j/jkoWyeLteX_w320.jpg
Was a good show when I was 10 or 9. I've seen both animal and normal humans versions.God I loved that series. Still remember the song. Never watched it all because I had different shifts at school each week.
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Hmmm. Interesting. I kind of thought Zoro wouldn't just be like "screw Sanji he can bounce, ungrateful bastard". He's said multiple times that Sanji can handle himself which I kind of think means deep down he definitely respects him. Glad to hear the truth i guess.
I'm kind of getting to the point where I'm considering getting a Viz subscription. I usually have to read 2-3 different translations (Mangastream & Mangapanda usually :sad:) to get the full gist of the chapter. Is it worth it? I'd hate to talk about new chapters knowing my information isn't completely acurate….
Yeah, it's definitely worth it. I'm consistently amused by how much subtleties scanlations miss, plus there's less "weaboo-isms", for lack of a better term, that I personally find distracting
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No it doesn't.At all.
Nice argumentation there.
Still, doesn't change the fact that SH now have to get tangled up with BM, more than possible angering her further than they already have, while watching out for Kaido or his men attacking them.
Not taking Zoro or Sanj's side, just saying. Besides, Sanji would likely agree with what Zoro said, anyway.
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Nice argumentation there.
Still, doesn't change the fact that SH now have to get tangled up with BM, more than possible angering her further than they already have, while watching out for Kaido or his men attacking them.
Not taking Zoro or Sanj's side, just saying. Besides, Sanji would likely agree with what Zoro said, anyway.
The point is, what other option did Sanji have? Say no and they would just leave them alone?
Sanji's only fault is that he didn't tell his friends that he is from a famous family of killers/assassins whatever and one day they will be after him.
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A Viz subscription is absolutely worth it. Scan and translation quality are top notch. MangaPanda is garbage and MangaStream leans towards profanity and a rougher taste in its dialogue when it isn't really there. Case in point, MangaStream made Zoro out to be more asshole than detached in this chapter.
Don't base you impressions of a chapter on a translation that's meant to be fast rather than accurate. And don't make any dialogue or text analysis based on it either.
If you're able to get the Viz subscription, GET IT. So many people misunderstand the plot because they read scan releases and the misunderstandings snowball into becoming "accepted information" before they can get corrected.
Stephen is a very good translator. His translation of OP is the very best in English. Buy the official version and support the manga.
Yeah, it's definitely worth it. I'm consistently amused by how much subtleties scanlations miss, plus there's less "weaboo-isms", for lack of a better term, that I personally find distracting
Now I'm thinking I will do this, lol. I already go to the library to read the VIZ version of chapters/volumes I've already read just to make sure I understood them correctly. How many recent chapters do they have available to subscribers online at one time? Can you only read the most recent one, or are there previous chapters there as well?
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So what if Sanji said no, I'm not going to your tea party? Big mom pirates would just leave, find another groom and SH would only have to worry about Kaidou?
I think if Sanji said " No " that'd piss her off even more, Sanji made a good decision going along with Capone.
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Nice argumentation there.
Still, doesn't change the fact that SH now have to get tangled up with BM, more than possible angering her further than they already have, while watching out for Kaido or his men attacking them.
Not taking Zoro or Sanj's side, just saying. Besides, Sanji would likely agree with what Zoro said, anyway.
Yeah it's pretty dangerous dealing with two at once, we don't need Luffy turning into Moria and going insane and gaining weight.
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The point is, what other option did Sanji have? Say no and they would just leave them alone?
Sanji's only fault is that he didn't tell his friends that he is from a famous family of killers/assassins whatever and one day they will be after him.
He didn't knew about the wedding or big mom. But he knew about his family that even have power to change wanted posters.Zoro is just stating the obvious, and it seems MS made it harsher than it really was.
Sanji had options, but this was the safest for all involved ('cept CC). Yes, he should have warned everyone about the possibility of his dangerous family coming after him and that letter could have been more apologetic or something, I guess.
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Lately I was thinking what kind of power up would make Sanji shiver when he would think about using it..
I know it will not happen but it would be really funny if Sanji has some form of muscle relase technique that makes him look ugly as hell
Like his legs would get thicker and in general he would look more buff BUT all of his muscles would get bigger- also on his face/ jaw.
His jaw could get wider and so on. He would try his best to avoid using this sort of skill that makes him extremely ugly(like Stronger Okamas looking like those
! ) and it would be in funny contrast to his ability to make somebody good looking with his kicks. At same time it would give him massive strength boost.
On other hand it would make us think that if Sanji would use it against Vergo his fight could turn almost like Luffy vs Doflamingo turned after Luffy used Gear 4th.
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Lately I was thinking what kind of power up would make Sanji shiver when he would think about using it..
I know it will not happen but it would be really funny if Sanji has some form of muscle relase technique that makes him look ugly as hell
Like his legs would get thicker and in general he would look more buff BUT all of his muscles would get bigger- also on his face/ jaw.
His jaw could get wider and so on. He would try his best to avoid using this sort of skill that makes him extremely ugly(like Stronger Okamas looking like those
! http://i.imgur.com/ceTKT.jpg) and it would be in funny contrast to his ability to make somebody good looking with his kicks. At same time it would give him massive strength boost.
On other hand it would make us think that if Sanji would use it against Vergo his fight could turn almost like Luffy vs Doflamingo turned after Luffy used Gear 4th.
Even though I don't have a problem with Sanji becoming weaker than Zoro over the timeskip (while Zoro's only function is as a fighter, Sanji is the cunning one who happens to also be one of the main fighters, he has other uses as a SH than being a powerhouse so he can afford not being as strong), that's something I wondered once too and I still hope to come true.
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Now I'm thinking I will do this, lol. I already go to the library to read the VIZ version of chapters/volumes I've already read just to make sure I understood them correctly. How many recent chapters do they have available to subscribers online at one time? Can you only read the most recent one, or are there previous chapters there as well?
They have back issues available, though only up to a certain date.
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Great, thanks! Just subscribed. :happy:
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Even though I don't have a problem with Sanji becoming weaker than Zoro over the timeskip (while Zoro's only function is as a fighter, Sanji is the cunning one who happens to also be one of the main fighters, he has other uses as a SH than being a powerhouse so he can afford not being as strong), that's something I wondered once too and I still hope to come true.
I would love if Sanji is actually holding back his new powers because using them would make him go… "okama way".To be fair, he didn't have a proper fight. The pacifista was a teamup and a 1 shot with Zoro, his second fight was a teamup with Jimbe and was easy, the fight with sheephead was a 1 shot. His duel with Vergo could go on and he would be forced to give all out but the fight was interrupted and short, Doflamingo locked him away with Parasite before he could try much.
Zoro did shine with Pica, but he did have like the longest fight in Dressrosa and had time to show what he can do. And he did get a ''push'' from Orlumbus.
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Great, thanks! Just subscribed. :happy:
Great for you! I subscribed around a month ago and it really pays off. No more wandering about shitty translations and waiting for 10 different chapters from 10 different manga I read from Jump. Other than Assassination Classroom, the Viz version has many manga I read and I get the best translations all at once and contribute to the author's work. It's really great! Thank god I found out how to use proxy, or else I wouldn't be able to have it
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What doesn't ? You doesn't understand my argument, don't you
It doesn't makes sense. Me don't know english, me only learned how to thinking!
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It doesn't makes sense. Me don't know english, me only learned how to thinking!
That's no excuses for not explain yourself!
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That's no excuses for not explain yourself!
IT'S TRUTH!
Ok, being serious now. I was editing my previous post to explain my points, although, as someone said some pages ago, it really feels like spamming at this point since all of us already stated our view on this so many times. Anyways…
The problem with Zoro's logic (at least is what I am getting from MS, I don't have access to Viz translation) is this whole notion about Sanji forcing them to deal with two Yonkou at the same time. Basically, Zoro's logic is:
"The crew has to deal with Kaido. They don't know when, but at any moment Kaido will go after them because of what they did to Doflamingo and the SMILE factory.
And, at a moment like this, with the crew having to deal with a Yonkou, Sanji goes and decides to mess with another one, forcing the crew to handle two of them, Big Mom and Kaido, at the same time."Honestly, it's like Zoro had been separated from the crew up until this point and missed the whole last three arcs.
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Unlike what he is saying, the crew already had to deal with Big Mom. Luffy declared war against her WAY before he decided to defy Kaido. Zoro pretends Big Mom only became a problem because of Sanji actions, but she was their enemy since the end of FI arc - and not because of Sanji, but of Luffy.
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Unlike Kaido, who is a possible threat in the future as Zoro pointed out, Big Mom was a present threat. The fact Capone and Pekoms actually ended up in Zou is because Big Mom sent them to hunt the SH down back in Dressrosa. Again, not because of Sanji, but
because of Luffy's declarationEDIT: well, Caesar actually, but still, not because of Sanji.
While Kaido MAY come hunting them down eventually, Big Mom was already doing it. She was not a Yonkou they would have to handle in the future, but they were already handling now. Zoro may not be fully aware of this because he was in Dressrosa while the crew was trying to save their ass from Big Mom Pirates, but I am pretty sure someone filled him up by now. -
Zoro is acting like Sanji went out of his way to deal with Big Mom on a whim, but he was dragged into it by her and his family. One may argue that he could handle it better (I disagree), but the fact remains that if Sanji did anything but follow Capone to the Tea Party it would end with Big Mom lauching a full assault against the SH.
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Ultimately, Sanji actions solved the exact same problem that Zoro is pretending Sanji created: dealing with two Yonkou at the same time. Thanks to Sanji, Luffy can deal with Kaido without having to worry about Big Mom at the same time. Sanji managed to solve a real problem they had - Big Mom - while Zoro is focusing on one that is not even real yet while pretending the one who was didn't existed up until now.
Zoro's logic would make sense if he used it back in PH against Luffy when he decided to go against Kaido even though he had already declared war against Big Mom. It would make sense then and against Luffy. Now, against Sanji, it is completely off - and that's why I am willing to blame Oda on this and not Zoro himself, I doubt Oda wanted Zoro to sound so ignorant regarding the SH situation.
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I think there is a big difference. Sanji action means they have now to cope with both emperors at the same time which wasn't really the case back in Punk Hazard.
Sanji's actions don't mean that. Chasing after him does. If anything Sanji's actions are the opposite, he's being diplomatic (thus far) and actually going to see if he can sort things out in some fashion. Straight refusing to go would mean that yeah Big Mom would probably be hunting them constantly too.
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Zoro's logic would make sense if he used it back in PH against Luffy when he decided to go against Kaido even though he had already declared war against Big Mom. It would make sense then and against Luffy. Now, against Sanji, it is completely off - and that's why I am willing to blame Oda on this and not Zoro himself, I doubt Oda wanted Zoro to sound so ignorant regarding the SH situation.
I think the difference is that when it comes to BM, it was all words and no action. There was a possibility of future conflict, but nothing imminent, considering they agreed to compensate her for the lost candy. And more importantly, she agreed. He may have proclaimed FI his territory, but that's not a serious proclamation without the ability to protect it.
In Kaido's case, they have dealt a serious blow to his expansion strategy. This goes way beyond yelling about becoming a Pirate King. They can rightfully expect Kaido will actively search for them now.
Can't really blame Zoro for acting like a douche. Or Mihawk, for that matter. If he acts one way in one arc and that acts opposite in a different arc, I have to assume Oda doesn't quite know how to handle him(/s awesomeness).
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I think the difference is that when it comes to BM, it was all words and no action. There was a possibility of future conflict, but nothing imminent, considering they agreed to compensate her for the lost candy. And more importantly, she agreed. He may have proclaimed FI his territory, but that's not a serious proclamation without the ability to protect it.
In Kaido's case, they have dealt a serious blow to his expansion strategy. This goes way beyond yelling about becoming a Pirate King. They can rightfully expect Kaido will actively search for them now.
Can't really blame Zoro for acting like a douche. Or Mihawk, for that matter. If he acts one way in one arc and that acts opposite in a different arc, I have to assume Oda doesn't quite know how to handle him(/s awesomeness).
I agree the Kaido threat is more real now than BM's was back when the alliance with Law was forged. This could explain why Zoro didn't protest back then.
Still, by now he is fully aware the "possibility of a conflict" against BM had already turned into a reality back in Green Bit. He knows everything that happened with the Curly Hats up to now, whole flashback chapters made sure he wouldn't get it wrong. The situation with BM was already there, not something Sanji created - if anything he was trying to fix it (and had he acted any differently, it would lead to the fight against BM breaking out now exactly when they have Kaido as their sword of Damocles. The exact scenario Zoro himself wants to avoid).
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Welp, you just sold me with that. It's wishful thinking to think they'd have the entire series. As long as they go as far back as I guess Water 7 I'll be more than pleased. Kind of off topic but I'm looking up prices and I'm confused. How much is a membership? Yearly or Annually? I get a refund check soon if its affordable I'd really enjoy reading quality translations from here on out!
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Honestly, it's like Zoro had been separated from the crew up until this point and missed the whole last three arcs.
pun intended ?
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I1) Unlike what he is saying, the crew already had to deal with Big Mom. Luffy declared war against her WAY before he decided to defy Kaido. Zoro pretends Big Mom only became a problem because of Sanji actions, but she was their enemy since the end of FI arc - and not because of Sanji, but of Luffy.
Big Mom is proposing to settle things down. If Sanji gets married to one of her daughters (or sisters…), she will not want to pick a fight with Luffy and his crew anymore, I guess. Ceasar mentionned that accepting the proposal = becoming her underling, which implies getting protection from her.
But !if you decide to screw all this up by stopping the wedding from happening, you're basically refusing her "favor" (let's call it favor because she could kill Luffy in a blink of an eye right now).
Maybe that's what Zoro meant. He knows that Luffy and the others would try to save Sanji and that's what would unleash Mama's wrath. He's trying to prevent that from happening until they get to decide of a proper plan.
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- Unlike Kaido, who is a possible threat in the future as Zoro pointed out, Big Mom was a present threat. The fact Capone and Pekoms actually ended up in Zou is because Big Mom sent them to hunt the SH down back in Dressrosa. Again, not because of Sanji, but
because of Luffy's declarationEDIT: well, Caesar actually, but still, not because of Sanji.
Actually.
Pekoms and Capone were sent on a new mission (according to what Pekoms says in chapter 812*) ; that mission could tear the crew apart. Basically it was to get Sanji from the Straw Hats to get his ass to the Tea Party.
So it is Sanji's fault – if you have a very biased way of thinking. But you know, that's just Zoro.- cnet says : (p.10 - chap. 812)
Pekoms: We do have orders from Mama. Aside from capturing Caesar... / ...we have other business here as well. Business that might result in your entire crew’s destruction.
Which is…different from what MS said. Damn it.
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- Ultimately, Sanji actions solved the exact same problem that Zoro is pretending Sanji created: dealing with two Yonkou at the same time. Thanks to Sanji, Luffy can deal with Kaido without having to worry about Big Mom at the same time. Sanji managed to solve a real problem they had - Big Mom - while Zoro is focusing on one that is not even real yet while pretending the one who was didn't existed up until now.
Yeah, that's exactly it. Thanks to Sanji, the Straw Hats don't have trouble with Big Mom anymore. Which is quite of a good thing.
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Zoro's logic would make sense if he used it back in PH against Luffy when he decided to go against Kaido even though he had already declared war against Big Mom. It would make sense then and against Luffy. Now, against Sanji, it is completely off - and that's why I am willing to blame Oda on this and not Zoro himself, I doubt Oda wanted Zoro to sound so ignorant regarding the SH situation.
inb4 "The author never makes a mistake, readers do" !!
Nah I think that it's just Zoro's interpretation of things. Remember, Big Mom said she'd be waiting for Luffy in the New World. It doesn't make sense at all, but in a way actually does. He would have to attack her first. Then things changed when he got his hands on Ceasar.
To this point, she hasn't sent anyone to kill Luffy, or even tried to kill them herself.I'm still sharing your point of view. More or less, let's say. Zoro should open his mouth when he's facing the actual problems, not later.
- Unlike Kaido, who is a possible threat in the future as Zoro pointed out, Big Mom was a present threat. The fact Capone and Pekoms actually ended up in Zou is because Big Mom sent them to hunt the SH down back in Dressrosa. Again, not because of Sanji, but
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Pekoms and Capone were sent on a new mission (according to what Pekoms says in chapter 812*) ; that mission could tear the crew apart. Basically it was to get Sanji from the Straw Hats to get his ass to the Tea Party.
So it is Sanji's fault – if you have a very biased way of thinking. But you know, that's just Zoro.- cnet says : (p.10 - chap. 812)
Pekoms: We do have orders from Mama. Aside from capturing Caesar... / ...we have other business here as well. Business that might result in your entire crew’s destruction.
Which is…different from what MS said. Damn it.
Capone also said the new directives came after they met in Dressrosa, so it had nothing to do with the wedding before. And it makes sense if we assume this whole wedding thing happened after Sanji's face was finally exposed, something that only happened after BM sent her men to Dressrosa.
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Just checked the Viz translation and Zoro's still sounds like a jerk to me. Not that there's anything wrong with that, that's just how his relationship with Sanji is.
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Just checked the Viz translation and Zoro's still sounds like a jerk to me. Not that there's anything wrong with that, that's just how his relationship with Sanji is.
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Though I wish they'd keep terms like "Yonko" of "Shichibukai" in the official translation. Think I'll go ahead and get the Viz subscription soon.
I actually don't mind that they translate those kinds of things. To fans that know some Japanese (and know, for example, that "yon" means "four" and "shichi" means "seven"), it's not as big of a deal, but for the casual fans who don't, "Four Emperors" and "Seven Warlords of the Sea" is more helpful for understanding what they actually are, more or less (since the literal translation of "Shichibukai"–Seven Martial Seas, I think--isn't really helpful). Heck, that's the whole point of translating the manga into English in the first place, so that English speakers can understand what it means.
That being said, one thing that is a bummer is that the English language doesn't have much of an equivalent to honorifics. The Japanese versions can tell you more about characters based on how they address each other (e.g. Sanji using "san" for Nami and "chan" for other girls; Brook using "san" for everyone; Law using "ya" for everyone; etc.), but that gets lost in translation, as do the punny (in Japanese) attack names.
Ooh, yeah, you should do it! I finished reading all of their translations for the chapters they still have on their site (806 to current), and they were quite good. I'm already happy I did it. (And yes, "crucify and chill" was not the actual translation, haha.)
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Welp, you just sold me with that. It's wishful thinking to think they'd have the entire series. As long as they go as far back as I guess Water 7 I'll be more than pleased. Kind of off topic but I'm looking up prices and I'm confused. How much is a membership? Yearly or Annually? I get a refund check soon if its affordable I'd really enjoy reading quality translations from here on out!
You can buy all of the OP graphic novels on the site too, it's it's just the weekly SJ issues that have a limit. A yearly subscription is $25.99 (a value of 52 cents an issue!), and you can renew it for cheaper.
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You can buy all of the OP graphic novels on the site too, it's it's just the weekly SJ issues that have a limit. A yearly subscription is $25.99 (a value of 52 cents an issue!), and you can renew it for cheaper.
So that $25.99 get you access to the new chapters that come out, most of the old ones and a cheaper subscription next year. Heh I've wasted damn near $30 for less. Plus I kind of want to support Oda and show there's more American One Piece fans than they think. Thanks for the info.
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VIZ's One Piece is just about the best thing ever. No nakama, no yonko, no shichibukai, no bobakushai/what ever the hell kind of Haki.
Haki is the one I will tolerate after all the debate we had about it years ago.
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VIZ's One Piece is just about the best thing ever. No nakama, no yonko, no shichibukai, no bobakushai/what ever the hell kind of Haki.
Haki is the one I will tolerate after all the debate we had about it years ago.
Yeah, I do appreciate that. The VIZ version of Naruto didn't translate some rather important things like "Hebi"/"Taka" (Snake/Hawk), "Gokage" (Five Kage), and "Tsuki no Me" (Eye of the Moon). I remember reading those and thinking "That must be confusing for people who don't already know what those mean". I'm glad that they're better about that with One Piece. The only things I don't like about it are "Zolo" (I read about why they did that, but it still irritates me) and how the early volumes have an unrealistic lack of swearing. (Like, I get that scanlations and fansubs exaggerate the swearing, but characters shouting "Darn you!" where any normal human being of that age would shout "Damn you!" gets kind of weird at times.)
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Yeah, I do appreciate that. The VIZ version of Naruto didn't translate some rather important things like "Hebi"/"Taka" (Snake/Hawk), "Gokage" (Five Kage), and "Tsuki no Me" (Eye of the Moon). I remember reading those and thinking "That must be confusing for people who don't already know what those mean". I'm glad that they're better about that with One Piece. The only things I don't like about it are "Zolo" (I read about why they did that, but it still irritates me) and how the early volumes have an unrealistic lack of swearing. (Like, I get that scanlations and fansubs exaggerate the swearing, but characters shouting "Darn you!" where any normal human being of that age would shout "Damn you!" gets kind of weird at times.)
In Naruto's case I can kind of understand since it has a sort of fantastical Japanese/Asian world where the foreign sounding stuff actually fits. Same for stuff like Bleach, and super true of stuff like historical dramas and slice of life stories.
But in something like One Piece? With a few exceptions it would be really dumb and out of place.
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Can someone tell me why the official translations went with Navy instead of Marines? Just curious
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While I really like Viz's translation, I'd rather have "Master Nekomamushi", "Inuarashi" and "Pekomamushi" than "The Cat Viper" (that "The" will really bother me as long as he's around), "Dogstorm" and "Lion Viper".
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While I really like Viz's translation, I'd rather have "Master Nekomamushi", "Inuarashi" and "Pekomamushi" than "The Cat Viper" (that "The" will really bother me as long as he's around), "Dogstorm" and "Lion Viper".
I agree. When it comes to names, I'd prefer if they kept the original name, just adding a footnote saying "Nekomamushi means Catviper". The official translators in my country usually do that.
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I don't mind different names in different regions. For Example I like it much more, that Luffy in German is called Ruffy (from rubber and rough), that Usopp is Lysop (from liar), Roronoa Zoro is Lorenor Zoro (just sounds better) and Pell being Peruh (Pell is a kind of potato in Germany, so it is really irritating me). But I haven't watched/read One Piece in German since Enies Lobby, so I don't know what other name changes followed, but I'm not too fond of the overly japanese names (except for citizens of Wano country) as these are extremely hard to remember. I still have my problems remembering the names of the Neptune family.
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Can someone tell me why the official translations went with Navy instead of Marines? Just curious
Navy is the actual translation of the word "Kaigun". Most go with "Marines" because it is written everywhere, and because the "Navy HQ" is on the island of "Marineford"
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Not sure if mentioned but it's funny that Caesar Clown would mentioned assassination of Capone Bege and Pekoms 2 chapters before the reveal of the Vinsmoke family being assassins. Maybe Caesar knows something? Not likely but still suspicious foreshadowing.
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It's maybe a bit offtopic but how can you register for the viz subscription? Their site is a mess, i couldn't find how to do it besides the mobile apps.
Can someone link it?(and is it available in Croatia?)Lol, same thing. A while ago I browsed the site but couldn't find the registration option for the life of me. Terms of Use has a section called Registration but I must be blind.
I saw the digital edition can be bought on all apps except Google Play in our country. I tried to find the list of supported countries but I failed at that as well.
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Lol, same thing. A while ago I browsed the site but couldn't find the registration option for the life of me. Terms of Use has a section called Registration but I must be blind.
I saw the digital edition can be bought on all apps except Google Play in our country. I tried to find the list of supported countries but I failed at that as well.
Well, if either one of you ever find out about it, pm me
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While I really like Viz's translation, I'd rather have "Master Nekomamushi", "Inuarashi" and "Pekomamushi" than "The Cat Viper" (that "The" will really bother me as long as he's around), "Dogstorm" and "Lion Viper".
Back to the chapter, even if the translation is different, my opinion regarding Zoro's reply to Nami didn't change. Go Nami and Chopper for defending Sanji !I totally agree with you on this. Although I think it's good that they translated things like "Yonko" and "nakama" (seriously, it makes absolutely no sense to keep these words in japanese in scanlations!), translating names just sounds wrong to me. I'd rather have them translate "Haki" and the admiral aliases. Those aren't actually names and would make perfect sense to be in english. People with no knowledge of japanese have no idea why the Admirals have 2 names and their most common name is all japanese. It would be good for those people to know that they're Blue Pheasant, Yellow Monkey, Red Dog, Wisteria Tiger and Green Bull. Haki… I wasn't present for the past debates, but "Haki" is a common word and it could perfectly be translated, although it's acceptable to leave it as it is, since it is some kind of "ki" thing and most people are familiar with the ki concept. Shichibukai is the one japanese word besides personal names that I would have liked them to leave it in japanese. It has no completely literal translation and... it sound really badass in japanese, honestly. I've gotten too used to it by now to change it to english.
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Pell is a kind of potato in Germany, so it is really irritating me
These coincidences tend to be funny. Publishing here in Brazil is way behind Japan. But when it gets to Dressrosa I wonder if they'll do something about Pica's name. In portuguese, pica is a slang word for penis. If they decide to translate the name of the four card suits to portuguese, the problem woudn't completely go away because in that case, Trebol would become Pau, which happens to be yet another slang word for penis here, hahaha.
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@Helter:
These coincidences tend to be funny. Publishing here in Brazil is way behind Japan. But when it gets to Dressrosa I wonder if they'll do something about Pica's name. In portuguese, pica is a slang word for penis. If they decide to translate the name of the four card suits to portuguese, the problem woudn't completely go away because in that case, Trebol would become Pau, which happens to be yet another slang word for penis here, hahaha.
I think it can be solved by deciding which of them looks more like a penis. I vote Pica, Trebol looks more like what comes out of it.
Not to mention Pica is able to become big and hard…I think this should go into the Pun Piece thread.
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I think it can be solved by deciding which of them looks more like a penis. I vote Pica, Trebol looks more like what comes out of it.
Not to mention Pica is able to become big and hard…I think this should go into the Pun Piece thread.
The Donquixote Family are a bunch of dicks.