Morty feel a bit inconsistent this episode? Him and Rick have been killing/ causing the death of many since episode 1. Shouldn't he be used to all this messed up stuff? Funny enough, he probably caused more death in this episode.
The Jerry/ Summer plotline feel rather pointless.
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MThe Jerry/ Summer plotline feel rather pointless.
Yeah definitely was the weaker part of the episode for me.
! As for the main stuff, maybe I have a fascination with this 0-to-100 dark humor. Maybe it was the jabs at The Purge as a movie concept. I dunno, it made me tense but I was laughing all the way through.
! I was half-expecting the lighthouse keeper to suddenly turn on the two of them (lie to get their defenses down, then try to murder), but nah. Really highlights that in the world of Rick and Morty, some people are just at the wrong place at the wrong time. With the case of Morty….really he's seen tons of messed up shit in the galaxy. The shot at the candy bar could hint him going postal one day.
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I really liked the Jerry Summer plot. It was short and sweet and really pathetic on Jerry's part. The closing scene with the TV ad was great.
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That was a heavy season finale. How do people feel season 2 held up?
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Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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That was a heavy season finale. How do people feel season 2 held up?
All around, pretty solid, but I don't think I liked it as much as Season 1. The first season was, of course, incredible in its creativity and bizarre brand of humor, and I guess I felt that Season 2 didn't do a whole lot to build on that or push the boundaries. Which is not to say it's bad, it's just, you know, more of the same. Also, for some reason, Rick's amorality and homicidal tendencies bothered me a few times.
Favorite episode of the season is still Total Rickall
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Yeah, I think probably liked season 1 more too. It could be due to the season embracing a more somber tone, going into Rick's psyche more. But there's still great jokes and gems throughout the season.
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Definitely more of the same, but all of it was still pretty fantastic. Seasons favs are definitely the memory parasites, the episode where Morty tries to save the gas-beings life, the split timeline, the car battery. Liked the finale a lot. I'm very much hoping for season 3 to actually stick with these limitations maybe? Well, I mean, bust Rick out of jail at some point, but I'd like for Earth to remain connected to that federation.
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I thought the first half of the episode was actually really weak.
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! Luckily, the back end of the episode was pretty good. I think the injection of continuity was too much too quickly (it felt like a whole bunch was dumped on us just at the very end of the episode), but the events leading to those changes and the changes themselves were pretty great. I kind of doubt Rick's captivity will last more than an episode, but earth being a federation planet is an interesting changeup that lets them get all Futurama on everything. -
Joking aside, I felt this season was a tiiiiiiny bit weaker than the first but a tiny fraction doesn't mean it's terrible. It's just an overall difficult thing to surpass. If there's anything that bothered me this season, it's really just how much several of the episodes felt like Futurama, when I felt like it had its own unique style/feel to it before. Maybe that's more to do with the fact it was more laying down concepts in "this universe", more than randomly exploring multiverses and the concept of multiverses. Like, the facility with the best doctors in the galaxy for example may be an important location in the next season(they said curing a bullet wound is like curing the cold… so perhaps this could be relavent to what happened this episode). Speaking of this episode
! I don't think it's safe to assume Bird Person is dead…. yet. Like I said above, the show brought up the location of galactic doctors. That and it already foreshadowed Bird Person knowing how to use Rick's Portal Gun, which Rick left behind. Chances are Squanchy and him escaped.. after BP finishes off Tammy?????!!! So much unseen possibilities in that scenario!!! Can't wait to see what actually happened at the end of the fuckall.
! Just theoryy.Now the wait for Season 3….
My favorite eps this season really has to be Total Rickall and The Ricks Must be Crazy. These two felt as quality as the first season. The finale was also excellent as something to wrap it all up.
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Apparently Egoraptor voiced the cyborg photographer.
Well from interviews I know that Season 3 will be distanced from the previous two combined. Which you can see a lot of it already setting up. Jerry will have a job, Earth is now populated by aliens and I don't believe Rick and Morty will be separated for long. I'm gonna assume Squanchy will help Rick.
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I expect to see more of the vampires in season 3.
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Apparently Egoraptor voiced the cyborg photographer.
Wha-wha-whaat? He is pretty good then.
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Real dick move ending on a "cliffhanger" when you know its going to be 18-24 months of production before the next season. Given that they were only renewed in like August, they didn't even know they were getting a third season when they made the episode, and I absolutely hate it when series have season finales with any sort of real cliffhanger and no idea if they'll ever get back to it.
It would have been an okay potential final episode were it not for knowing season 3 was coming, and the ending bit spitefully flaunting the fact, I suppose.
Overall the season was okay, some good ones and good bits in there, but not as strong as the first. It got a lot darker? The first season was also dark but balanced out more by the heart of it… this one ultimately just felt a lot more negative. Still pretty solid all around, but... missing a little something?
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I had a feeling that they had to make a sequel to Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind.
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Real dick move ending on a "cliffhanger" when you know its going to be 18-24 months of production before the next season. Given that they were only renewed in like August, they didn't even know they were getting a third season when they made the episode, and I absolutely hate it when series have season finales with any sort of real cliffhanger and no idea if they'll ever get back to it.
I heard this from Justin on a video podcast, but… they knew they were getting renewed pretty early. Long before it was officially announced too.
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Apparently according to an interview on periscope here
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1OdKrrMpBryKXThe original plan was to have a 2 parter without a cliffhanger, but The Purge episode was made instead for episode 9.
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I heard this from Justin on a video podcast, but… they knew they were getting renewed pretty early. Long before it was officially announced too.
Well, that's a bit better then… still nasty to knowingly throw out an 18 month+ cliffhanger instead of say, 3 months like most shows do between seasons.
Or at least to cap the ending like that with the post credits scene. I probably would have been fine had it just ended with the earlier bit, as that worked as a wrap up of sorts.
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I just can't figure out why they waited so long to make a move; the Federation has to have known where Rick lives for months now and could have set up a trap a long time ago.
Complicating things since 2009.
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I just can't figure out why they waited so long to make a move; the Federation has to have known where Rick lives for months now and could have set up a trap a long time ago.
IIRC Tammy saw both Rick and Birdperson at the party ending season 1, so if anything that would serve as 100% solid proof. I guess she either didn't have weapons/plan to act or wasn't authorized yet. Wedding plan brought more rogues to the same spot, but what if Rick didn't bother to go?
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Well, that's a bit better then… still nasty to knowingly throw out an 18 month+ cliffhanger instead of say, 3 months like most shows do between seasons.
Or at least to cap the ending like that with the post credits scene. I probably would have been fine had it just ended with the earlier bit, as that worked as a wrap up of sorts.
Why would the next season come out in 18 months? Excuse my ignorance, I just caught up with the series and i don't really know about it's production time and what not.
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Why would the next season come out in 18 months? Excuse my ignorance, I just caught up with the series and i don't really know about it's production time and what not.
Because the production staff has blatantly said it will take 18-24 months for the next season, at least. They even mentioned it in the post-credits scene on the last episode.
Its an adult swim show with minimal staff, so it gets to be in production hell like Venture Brothers. As few episodes as possible as far apart as they can make them.
Unlike other series that a)have their act together and b)have a proper sized staff where they can cliffhanger and have the next season almost done and ready to go by the time that cliffhanger airs.
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Welp, I caught up to this…
I fucking love this show, it's honestly grown to be one of my favorite shows period. And it sucks dick that I had to catch up with that cliffhanger, aghhhh give me season 3!!!
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If you've got a smart phone, Adult Swim released a Pokemon-esque "Pocket Mortys" game for Iphone and Android. The goal, like Pokemon, is to collect all of the Mortys from the different realities.
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I too have discovered that this show is flippin' hilarious.
I've also spent some time musing on why the show managed to get away with such flippant violence and murder of sentient, empathic beings without it bothering me more; I mean, Rick is an absolute monster, but somehow I couldn't hate him. I think part of the reason is that, unlike something like Futurama, there wasn't much overt, show-stopping sentimentality. Part of what annoyed me most in Futurama was that episodes like Luck of the Fryrish, Leelas Homeworld, Lethal inspection etc were my absolute favourites, and part of the series core appeal…yet were in sharp contrast to other episodes, where the characters were unempathic callous douchebags.Since I'm not that personally invested in the characters and relationships of Rick and Morty, I don't care as much that they're constantly shitty people.
Also, the series constantly lampshades how fucked up and/or horrible the actions are, to an extreme degree; If some background character is to die, he might scream about his wife and children first, and provoke a horrified response from Morty or Summer. In a weird way, that helps too; the series doesn't sugercoat the characters actions or try and paint Rick in a unambiguously positive light; When Rick is inhuman, he gets called out as inhuman. Of course, he just doesn't care, but thats part of the fun...in a twisted sort of way?
Argh, conflicting emotions.
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Actually, the wanton death and callousness kind of bothered me in the second season, whereas it didn't bother me at all in the first season, for some reason. Maybe there was just more of it in second season or maybe they handled it better in the first? I guess I need to rewatch it.
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Some instances did bother me too like
(are we doing spoilers?)! Rick destroying an entire universe so he can keep his car battery charged, and Morty murdering that passive-agressiveold lighthousekeeper and not seeming sorry for it.
I can't figure out a rule-of-thumb as to why some bother me, and others don't though
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The violence doesn't bother me in the context of this show. I think episodes such as the micro universe in a battery is a good example of the show being very clever and making an interesting ethical point at the same time.
Of course in contrast to watching Metalocalypse the violence is pretty tame and there is never any point being made. :)
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Some instances did bother me too like
(are we doing spoilers?)! Rick destroying an entire universe so he can keep his car battery charged, and Morty murdering that passive-agressiveold lighthousekeeper and not seeming sorry for it.
I can't figure out a rule-of-thumb as to why some bother me, and others don't though
The Lighthouse Keeper had it coming, the jackass!
I do like to think there are moments where Rick shows he cares for Morty. The one where he puts his collar onto Morty to save him and the finale of season 2 come to mind.
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@Daz:
Some instances did bother me too like
(are we doing spoilers?)! Rick destroying an entire universe so he can keep his car battery charged, and Morty murdering that passive-agressiveold lighthousekeeper and not seeming sorry for it.
I can't figure out a rule-of-thumb as to why some bother me, and others don't though
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The Lighthouse Keeper had it coming, the jackass!
In the context of a darkly comic adult animated show where violence is often a punchline? Sure.
But from the perspective of Morty, who's overall shown to have a somewhat functional moral compass, and appropriately shocked reactions to the rampant death on the show…I don't think it was entirely deserved.
It can be rationalized as Morty being an overemotional teen, or maybe even character development for him. But its just a personal pet peeve of mine to see someone whos been characterized as empathic commit grisly murder, with no remorse or consequence.@TLC:
I do like to think there are moments where Rick shows he cares for Morty. The one where he puts his collar onto Morty to save him and the finale of season 2 come to mind.
There definetely are; I just don't think going for The Feels is one of the shows stronger suits, or higher priorities.
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That actually didn't bother me too much, because the reactions were relatably human and anguished. If Summer had given no shits, or one of the other officers had made some one liner then I'd have found it uncomfortable, but the show totally owns up to the disturbing shit it does here…which, in a weird way, diffuses the scene for me. "Wow, that sure was fucked up...but at least summer still reacts like a normal human being"
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That actually didn't bother me too much, because the reactions were relatably human and anguished. If Summer had given no shits, or one of the other officers had made some one liner then I'd have found it uncomfortable, but the show totally owns up to the disturbing shit it does here…which, in a weird way, diffuses the scene for me. "Wow, that sure was fucked up...but at least summer still reacts like a normal human being"
Actually, the really messed up part is that Rick, with all of his seemingly limitless scientific knowledge, probably could have designed it to create some kind of impenetrable force field to "keep Summer safe". But instead he made it so that its first response to kill, then paralyze, then emotionally traumatize anyone who approached it. And then…broker a world-changing peace agreement.
That's our Rick.
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That may be part of the puzzle; Rick is a foul mouthed, self loathing, brilliant, abusive, callous and hedonistic douchebag…but at least he's consistently so. If Rick spent every other episode as a benefactor of random aliens, or bonding with new people, his cynical pendant for murder would be insanely frustrating.
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@Daz:
In the context of a darkly comic adult animated show where violence is often a punchline? Sure.
But from the perspective of Morty, who's overall shown to have a somewhat functional moral compass, and appropriately shocked reactions to the rampant death on the show…I don't think it was entirely deserved.
It can be rationalized as Morty being an overemotional teen, or maybe even character development for him. But its just a personal pet peeve of mine to see someone whos been characterized as empathic commit grisly murder, with no remorse or consequence.I reiterate, that lighthouse keeper had it totally coming! That passive agressive song and dance he did is the most infuriating thing a human being could do to someone. "Now, now honest feelings, I want the truth now! What do you mean you didn't like it?!"
ANYONE would murder him! I would murder him! YOU should murder him!
(Also you could argue that the Purge and the wanton murder surrounding him addled his brain. But fuck that, that twerp pissed me off so bad, I was totally on Morty's side!)
@Daz:
There definetely are; I just don't think going for The Feels is one of the shows stronger suits, or higher priorities.
I love the feels moments but they work best in small doses at climactic moments. I like the show has a tad more depth than grisly dark comedy.
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@Daz:
In the context of a darkly comic adult animated show where violence is often a punchline? Sure.
But from the perspective of Morty, who's overall shown to have a somewhat functional moral compass, and appropriately shocked reactions to the rampant death on the show…I don't think it was entirely deserved.
It can be rationalized as Morty being an overemotional teen, or maybe even character development for him. But its just a personal pet peeve of mine to see someone whos been characterized as empathic commit grisly murder, with no remorse or consequence.my personal head canon was that Rick was ultimately right, and Morty was just under the effects of purginol or whatever the ingredient was called. The real twist was Rick correctly guessed that the purginol free stamp shown at the end was a load of crap and the bars were still full of the stuff. I can't imagine the show dipping into Morty's potential murderous side to his genes in future episodes anyways, but who knows?
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@Daz:
That may be part of the puzzle; Rick is a foul mouthed, self loathing, brilliant, abusive, callous and hedonistic douchebag…but at least he's consistently so. If Rick spent every other episode as a benefactor of random aliens, or bonding with new people, his cynical pendant for murder would be insanely frustrating.
Well, maybe your problem with the car battery scene was the fact that even by Rick standarts, enslaving an entire civilization for a such a pety purpose seems like reaching a new low.
Especially when you realize that the episode ends with them being semi-sentient about their condition, and know they can´t do nothing about it.The only situation where Rick did such an evil intended thing was when he blew up the virtual reality program aliens, and even then you were sort of cheering for him.
Here there were no reason to dislike a perfectly peaceful, functional society.Same thing with the lighthouse inkeeper.
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Wasn't Morty's rage on that planet the result of… uhh.. the plotpoint that made the Purge participants fueled with rage and urges to kill to begin with? It was even addressed at the end of the episode where he goes insane. I forgot exactly what it was, but there was a reason Rick knocked him out.
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Wasn't Morty's rage on that planet the result of… uhh.. the plotpoint that made the Purge participants fueled with rage and urges to kill to begin with? It was even addressed at the end of the episode where he goes insane. I forgot exactly what it was, but there was a reason Rick knocked him out.
If i remember correctly that's what Rick said to Morty to calm him down at the end, but then it shows that it was not the case, and Morty went really insane on his own. Also, i wonder if it's something inherited from Rick, so alongside Morty there will be Summer and Beth with the chance of going in a murderous rampage (Beth even shot Mr. Poopy butt hole), leaving Jerry as the only "sane" member of the family.
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Unless you buy my Rick was actually right theory and the purginol free label was a lie made by the corporations on that planet, which I think fits the worldview of Rick and Morty.
Like I said, I can't imagine the show really going into Morty or the other members of Rick's genepool having it in their dna to kill, but like you said Yobiyopi, it's also shown that murder is clearly in their blood in Total Rickall, where despite the numerous implanted memories of fun times, the family is pretty much able to kill everyone in that household with barely any second thought.
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I do not remember the lighthouse scene, but I got the impression, throughout season 2, that morty is becoming desensitized and going along with rick's ways
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Two years is waaaaaaaay too long for me to wait for another season of this show….think I'm gunna have withdrawls....
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As a fan of both Venture Bros. and BBC Sherlock, I'll be alright.
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Not only will the show be back sooner than expected but we're getting a longer season.
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Luffy will break into Space Impel Down to free Vegapunk! I mean, Morty will. Free Rick.
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Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!
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Not only will the show be back sooner than expected but we're getting a longer season.
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Like the show though at times it's a bit too offensive for my tastes.
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From San Diego Comic-Con, a clip from Season 3
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And here's Justin reading a real-life court case transcript in Rick and Morty's voices.!
