do we ever had the confirmation that pluton was really in alabasta?
we know that the poignee griffe with the location was there,but just like the one with the location of poseidon was in jaya and the weapon was in fishman island,we can't really be sure that pluton is at alabasta…croco was moving on rumors anyway,so it's not really a stretch to think that what he thought was wrong and pluton was not there
espcially because it is supposed to be a really,really big battleship,and there are not many places on the desert-filled alabasta where you can hide something like that
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It was assumed that Pluton, the original, is hidden in Alabasta, probably in the vast deserts if it was. Though we don't exactly know. It's only rumoured to be in Alabasta, and we can assume that the Poneglyph in Alabasta did in fact contain information on where it is, but since Robin never said what was on it, we don't have exact confirmation that, while it had information on Pluton, it was somewhere in Alabasta. We did get information on Poseidon all the way back in Skypiea/Jaya, so it's not unprecedented to have a Poneglyph be talked about in a different place from where it can be found.
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Pluton whereabouts were documented in the poneygliph in Alabasta…IF Roger didn't move it from there.
We know from chapter 0 that Roger got hold of an AW which is either Pluton or Uranus, since it couldn't be Poseidon as there was no awaken Poseidon in Roger times.
So, either Roger had Uranus, and we can't have a single clue, or if he got hold of Pluton, he could have moved it or not, he could have brought it back to its "dock" or not, he could have taken it and Pluton out of its own will got back to its dock.
So, for what we know so far, Pluton couldn't even necessarily be where the Poneyglyph says.
Could Hawkins predict where Pluton is, even with a big % of error?
Mostly...pirates seems more aware of this stuff than the Strawhats, or at least from what they show to know.
Probably Luffy, Zoro, Usopp, Chopper by nature don't know jack and are not interested about what happens in the world and maybe Franky to a certain degree.
Maybe Brook was aware of what was happening in his times, but he's not very interested in what happens today.
Sanji shows to know LOADS of stuff from time, old stories and such and how the gears in OP world works.
Nami at least reads the Daily Coo, so she keeps in touch with what happens to the World and knows the major players
We know Robin knows more than anyone, but she doesn't feed the crew with knowledge.
So we have 3 out of 9 that knows something about what happens, the legends going on and such, but not the Captain, while it's very likely that all the other Cpatains keeps very updated on what happens and they do read and know about legends and stories.
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We know from chapter 0 that Roger got hold of an AW
He knew it's destination, nothing was said about it being in his possession.
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He knew it's destination, nothing was said about it being in his possession.
Yeah, indeed, he knew the location one year before giving himself in to the Marines.
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And Hawkins is not there for nothing, he can predict the outcome of battles and based on the percentages, judging when it's worth to fight or not.
The problem is that sometimes they'll be forced into a situation where they don't have the option to retreat, and Hawkins' bookmaker ability becomes useless.
Like when he calculated his own odds against Kizaru.
As for Apoo who knows what his role will be
Being awesome and more entertaining than Kidd and Hawkins put together.
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That logia type guy from fishman island (i don't remember his name ) he knows that shirahoshi is ancient weapon in side story oda showed he got captured by xdrake and xdrake works for kaidu so kaidou may discover that shirahoshi is ancient weapon
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That logia type guy from fishman island (i don't remember his name ) he knows that shirahoshi is ancient weapon in side story oda showed he got captured by xdrake and xdrake works for kaidu so kaidou may discover that shirahoshi is ancient weapon
Yeah. Caribou. We mentioned him on the page beforehand.
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Surely Caribou knowing about Shirahoshi is not random info.
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He's dead.
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He's dead.
He might.
He said he might.
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He's dead allright. And so is Sabo. And Pell.
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That logia type guy from fishman island (i don't remember his name ) he knows that shirahoshi is ancient weapon in side story oda showed he got captured by xdrake and xdrake works for kaidu so kaidou may discover that shirahoshi is ancient weapon
A few years ago when that chapter first came out I figured Kaidou would get the Ancient Weapon info out of Caribou. I have a feeling there will be a 3 way battle between the Straw Hearts, Big Mom pirates and Kaidou pirates. All of them fighting over Fishman Island. At that point Luffy purposely destroys Fishman Island so no one could have it. I don't know, lol.
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I'm starting to think Caribou's "that person" is none of Yonkou.
It would make things a little more interesting for me if it didn't come down only to Yonkou and Supernova. New World should be filled with guys somewhere in between who are as hungry as Supernovas. Crocodile was quite interested in ancient weapons, there's that "Jack" person, then there's the unknown Shichibukai who, for all we know, might be "Jack" and there's any number of badasses or those silver medalists who have potential to go after Yonkou.
Really hope Oda doesn't limit himself to Supernovas here.
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Since Fujitora already admitted that the marines made mistakes concerning Dressrosa and Doflamingo, the WG will try to save face by ordering the CP0 to assassinate Doflamingo. The WG can then claim Luffy killed him, and then they can legitimately raise the SH's bounties without worrying about backlash other than from the citizens of Dressrosa; however, this whole coverup will be exposed at the Revelry, and many countries will start to lose faith in the WG.
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In chapter 233 and 793, there is a kanji (博愛) on the wall in Gorousei's room.
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Sabo is Ace 2.0. He's almost exactly like Ace, he was basically Ace in Dressrosa.
There will be a lot happening regarding the Revolutionaries and the World Government now. Sabo will play a key role, of course. Somewhere towards the end, as the world as we know it crumbles, Blackbeard, who's been looking for Sabo to take his fruit and as retribution for Jesus Burgess, somehow captures Sabo at the most potent of times. I'm talking like, shit is going down. Yonkous are gone, Eneru's blasting everything with Uranus, Akainu's butt is flaming like magma, the true history has been unveiled, Gin is back, the Worst Generation has flipped over the world on its back, Celestial Dragons are committing suicide - stuff like that. So in the midst of this, Sabo has been taken by the Blackbeard Pirates. Unlike beforehand, where Luffy decided he wouldn't go after Ace when he learned that his life was fading away in Thriller Bark, he's going after Sabo immediately. This time, with his friends and his allies that have been made throughout the
40 yearswhole adventure. The Straw Hat pirates and their allies go against the Blackbeard fleet, a mirror between Whitebeard and the Mariness. But this time, they save Sabo and defeat the Blackbeard Pirates.Oh, and Doflamingo's eyes still haven't been revealed though.
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Since Fujitora already admitted that the marines made mistakes concerning Dressrosa and Doflamingo, the WG will try to save face by ordering the CP0 to assassinate Doflamingo. The WG can then claim Luffy killed him, and then they can legitimately raise the SH's bounties without worrying about backlash other than from the citizens of Dressrosa; however, this whole coverup will be exposed at the Revelry, and many countries will start to lose faith in the WG.
They weren't after Doflamingo though, they were after the revolutionaries.
I doubt they'd go after Doflamingo as they could have probably planned a successful assassination of him this entire time.
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I'm starting to think Caribou's "that person" is none of Yonkou.
It would make things a little more interesting for me if it didn't come down only to Yonkou and Supernova. New World should be filled with guys somewhere in between who are as hungry as Supernovas. Crocodile was quite interested in ancient weapons, there's that "Jack" person, then there's the unknown Shichibukai who, for all we know, might be "Jack" and there's any number of badasses or those silver medalists who have potential to go after Yonkou.
Really hope Oda doesn't limit himself to Supernovas here.
Well, we know there are Countries at war with pirates, so it might be possible.
It really depends on how much Oda wants to make OP last.
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Well, we know there are Countries at war with pirates, so it might be possible.
It really depends on how much Oda wants to make OP last.
The last shichibukai must be a threat at least on par with Dofla to have a meaning.Yeah, I thought of the same thing. It's really going to have to last a lot longer if what I suggested is to be done properly.
Last Shichi has been really hyped by Oda, even if it wasn't on manga pages. So I'm expecting a real badass with good amount of plot significance.
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So, I take sometimes the agony to watch dumb OnePiece Prediction videos on youtube.
It's like hitting your own genitalia with Alvida's mace but…anyway...besides all the asspull sometimes you might find something worthy, or something that at least might start as interesting just to end into complete nonsense.
There's a channel though that is quite nice...it's this one https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCigZ_lvEH5cP0Yzm7JVg1xw/videos called OnePiece with Japan Theories, it's at least interesting because the theories have some cultural Japanese background, as the guy making the vids is Japanese.
Fun stuff, it's the less followed channel about OP theories.
Back on track, I found the vid about Scopper Gabban interesting.
He said that the Roger's Crew is somehow controlling the Grand Line…Crocus is at the beginning, Rayleigh at the middle and eventually Gabban will be at the end (he mentions the island before Raftel, you can check the vid as it is not outrageously bad.
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So, I take sometimes the agony to watch dumb OnePiece Prediction videos on youtube.
It's like hitting your own genitalia with Alvida's mace but…anyway...besides all the asspull sometimes you might find something worthy, or something that at least might start as interesting just to end into complete nonsense.
There's a channel though that is quite nice...it's this one https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCigZ_lvEH5cP0Yzm7JVg1xw/videos called OnePiece with Japan Theories, it's at least interesting because the theories have some cultural Japanese background, as the guy making the vids is Japanese.
Fun stuff, it's the less followed channel about OP theories.
Back on track, I found the vid about Scopper Gabban interesting.
He said that the Roger's Crew is somehow controlling the Grand Line…Crocus is at the beginning, Rayleigh at the middle and eventually Gabban will be at the end (he mentions the island before Raftel, you can check the vid as it is not outrageously bad.
Anyway, if that would prove to be true, and there isn't any reason why it shouldn't…why shouldn't be Rayleigh at the end and Copper at the middle given the ranks?Maybe Rayleigh pulled rank saying he wanted to retire and be where the fun is - at SA. Or that he was the only one with the knowledge of the Resin Coating so only he could pull off working at SA as a coating engineer. Add in that his partner, Shakky is covering the Bartender spot,
The coating engineer and bartender would be the best occupations to hold to meet (and evaluate) the passing pirates,
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Yeah, that might be a point Katzz
Anyway, after watching all the videos in that channel, I understood that the guy is sharing the common theories and speculation of the Japanese Community, so it's less asspull than you find on youtube, the opposite actually.
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The reason why shakky never seems to age is because the previous user of ope-ope no mi used the immortal operation on her.
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In chapter 233 and 793, there is a kanji (博愛) on the wall in Gorousei's room.
It means Philanthropy in Japanese. I wonder if it is Gorousei's motto…! http://i.imgur.com/mutu7Vd.jpg
! http://i.imgur.com/xQ3SiIi.jpgI've never noticed this. Good find! I bet my toddler will be in high school by the time we are given even half the explanation on the ancient kingdom, the 19 kingdoms and why they were at war. A long time ago it always seemed like the government was more evil than good but then we see more things like this and can't help but realize how gray things really were.
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I've never noticed this. Good find! I bet my toddler will be in high school by the time we are given even half the explanation on the ancient kingdom, the 19 kingdoms and why they were at war. A long time ago it always seemed like the government was more evil than good but then we see more things like this and can't help but realize how gray things really were.
World Government is being so "cool" to make Akainu and Marines look like children in a kindergarden.
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! Even without the color, it's still Yorki
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To one up Mihawk as the Greatest Swordsman in the World in their final battle, Zoro will either split the Red Line (probably been said before) or split the Sea a la Moses.
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Maybe once you could travel the grand line even from New World to Paradise…
I was browsing the OP timeline in OPWikia and Noland visited Green Bit before JayaAlso...Nico Olvia left Ohara in the same year that Crocus joined Roger's crew, hmmm.
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Maybe once you could travel the grand line even from New World to Paradise…
I was browsing the OP timeline in OPWikia and Noland visited Green Bit before JayaOne Piece geography has always been one of the most confusing things about this manga.
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Maybe once you could travel the grand line even from New World to Paradise…
I was browsing the OP timeline in OPWikia and Noland visited Green Bit before JayaAlso...Nico Olvia left Ohara in the same year that Crocus joined Roger's crew, hmmm.
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Noland visited the Grand Line twice before, maybe he just used a different route the other times.
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It seems quite strange that in 800 years no other D. made some kind of messes.
Obviously they were all covered up by the WG, but it seems unlikely that the D. were all quiet until Roger.
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One Piece geography has always been one of the most confusing things about this manga.
i think its got the whole Pangea thing going on, especially that the red line wasn't always there
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He's dead.
besides the fact that no one ever dies in this manga, there are a bunch of ways oda could save him, iva, law etc.
something tells me he just survived naturally though
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Make Shanks's ears explode with his music?:ninja:
For real now, I wonder how they will take them in a fight. Let's say Kid, Apoo, Hawkins take Shanks, Killer take Ben…but who will take rest? There was none else from their crews to shine except that Heat guy...
Shanks was with 8 people at marineford besides rockstar, kidd has him, apoo, hawkins, heat, tall guy, killer.
no way killer can solo ben. Dude is around admiral level based on marineford and the fact that he seems to be the #2. Killer is like a weaker zoro, no chance. Also rockstar seems to be pretty low in the pecking order of shank's crew(pre TS)
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besides the fact that no one ever dies in this manga, there are a bunch of ways oda could save him, iva, law etc.
ahem… Roger, Kuina, Banchina, Belmere, Whitebeard and Ace are raising their hands from the grave.
Its more like no named dies off panel, we see either the deathbed (Kuina, Banchina) , the moment of death, (Roger, Belmere, Whitebeard & Ace) or grave (Kuina, Belmere, Whitebeard, Ace).
Since we don't see any of that for Gin, he could fall into the category of "we thought these guys were dead but never actually saw it and they reappeared later alive!" (Pell, Conis' dad & Sabo are prime examples).
something tells me he just survived naturally though
I agree, its said he should have died from the gas. But guess what, Usopp should have been dead a long time ago in Arabastra as it usually kills a human to be driven
intostraight through a thick stone wall … Usopp survived twice. Not to mention taking the 4 ton bat straight to the face during the same battle.Gin is supposed have been Don Krieg's top fighter, if pre-timeskip Usopp (who wasn't as strong as Gin was back then) can survive that, I think Gin has a strong chance surviving the gas.
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I agree, its said he should have died from the gas. But guess what, Usopp should have been dead a long time ago in Arabastra as it usually kills a human to be driven
intostraight through a thick stone wall … Usopp survived twice. Not to mention taking the 4 ton bat straight to the face during the same battle.Gin is supposed have been Don Krieg's top fighter, if pre-timeskip Usopp (who wasn't as strong as Gin was back then) can survive that, I think Gin has a strong chance surviving the gas.
thanks for saying it bro, always thought that ussop fight was one of the moments Oda simply pushed it too hard
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thanks for saying it bro, always thought that ussop fight was one of the moments Oda simply pushed it too hard
Usopp may not be strong as in damage he can do, but he's strong in damage he can survive.
To be honest, Arabastra was just warm up for later. Take what Usopp went through in 2 days in the Water7/Ennis Lobby=
Day 1, the warm-up = Usopp gets mugged by the Franky Family, then gets hit by Franky's steel fist. That afternoon he fights Luffy, uses an impact dial, then gets punched in the stomach by Luffy .. and no it wasn't gentle.
Day 2, day of hell = Usopp gets interrogated by Rob Lucci. Jybra shigan-stabs him with all 10 fingers. Then he falls/jumps off the roof of the tallest building …only no one catches him and splat...frankly while any of day 1 is survivable, any one of those three events alone from day 2 would have killed the normal person.
Its one reason I was a bit peeved for a time in this arc with how long Usopp's been down. But then I realized tow things that stopped that.
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lol obviously i did not mean 0 people have died so far
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thanks for saying it bro, always thought that ussop fight was one of the moments Oda simply pushed it too hard
No way man! Usopp's skull cracked like an egg and he still kept on pushing. That was the manliest thing ever! Oda pushed just the right amount!
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Is there a chance that Bonney wasn't upset over Whitebeard while the Marinford arc, but rather over Ace's death? Her conversations on this matter, since then, sounded quite ambiguous and no specific name was given. They are both from South Blue, maybe she witnessed his birth as a little girl.
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Marijoa's National Treasure…what if it's just "Jewelry"?
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Is there a chance that Bonney wasn't upset over Whitebeard while the Marinford arc, but rather over Ace's death? Her conversations on this matter, since then, sounded quite ambiguous and no specific name was given. They are both from South Blue, maybe she witnessed his birth as a little girl.
I'm also aware of the fact that this theory most likely isn't new.She was crying when Whitebeard´s honor and honesty as captain and father was insulted iirc
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She was crying when Whitebeard´s honor and honesty as captain and father was insulted iirc
Or she just lost all hope for Ace because WB got stabbed and the screens go blank. You can read it that way, but I think your version (the official) is most likely the case.
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It's more of a thought and less of a theory, but at this point I'm pretty positive a huge clusterfuck will ensue about the yonkues and it will set up to the final war and the strawhats getting their hands on the one pirce. We won't have an arc dedicated to each of the emproers or anything like that. I'm sure
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It's more of a thought and less of a theory, but at this point I'm pretty positive a huge clusterfuck will ensue about the yonkues and it will set up to the final war and the strawhats getting their hands on the one pirce. We won't have an arc dedicated to each of the emproers or anything like that. I'm sure
Although when will Luffy be ready for the clusterfuck?
Timeskip 2.0
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Although when will Luffy be ready for the clusterfuck?
Timeskip 2.0
Nah. Ain't gonna happen I believe. He's just gonna struggle real hard and power through everything. same as he did with the warlords when he himself was a no one. Also, there are too many players. I think 50% of this clusterfuck is gonna be heavily Strawhat related, while the rest of it will be mostly about the rest of the figures.
I just think that the thought that each emperor will have his own arc is very idiotic. Oda's editor mentioning that the story is about 70% or 80% done just proved that point to me.
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Nah. Ain't gonna happen I believe. He's just gonna struggle real hard and power through everything. same as he did with the warlords when he himself was a no one. Also, there are too many players. I think 50% of this clusterfuck is gonna be heavily Strawhat related, while the rest of it will be mostly about the rest of the figures.
I just think that the thought that each emperor will have his own arc is very idiotic. Oda's editor mentioning that the story is about 70% or 80% done just proved that point to me.
70% at most I believe.
Yes Luffy can power through enemies. He may even come up with some new moves. But is that enough to be on Rogers level or beyond?
We still have the revolutionaries, vegapunk, WG revelations, reverie. I don't believe there will be an Arc for each Yonkou as you've said.
I mean, there was a big gap between Roger starting out and when he became Pirate king.
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Nah. Ain't gonna happen I believe. He's just gonna struggle real hard and power through everything. same as he did with the warlords when he himself was a no one. Also, there are too many players. I think 50% of this clusterfuck is gonna be heavily Strawhat related, while the rest of it will be mostly about the rest of the figures.
I just think that the thought that each emperor will have his own arc is very idiotic. Oda's editor mentioning that the story is about 70% or 80% done just proved that point to me.
I just don't see Oda not giving own arc to world strongest villains, when even shits like Hody Jones got their arc.
Sure, if the 70-80% if good, then Luffy will have to jump from yonkou to yonkou. And likely not dressrosa long for each.
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