Chapter 792: Kneeling Down
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Would be anticlimatic and definitely not on the very same day we've been following for the past 2 1/2 years.
He did say he won't let Luffy do whatever he pleases and also stated that they were falling behind in terms of feats in the New World, hence the rushed formation of their alliance. if 3 Supernovas in Dressrossa can do all that shit in one day why can't the four (Kid, Killer, Hawkins, Apoo) do something batshit crazy in the same amount of time? For some reason I don't think Luffy's bounty will ever be higher than Kid's until the two face off (not for very long anyway).
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Going back to chapter 761:http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-762-page-9.html
I wonder if DoFlamingo's so called trump card here will save his ass from being thrown into Impel Down, or perhaps will the World Nobles finally seize the chance to do away with him now that he's defeated??
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The scenario gets rid of fujitora ever being in dressrosa. No meeting with the shs in the bar nothing. before the birdcage goes up akainu has a call with fuji telling him to rush to dressrosa but he comes too late.
Again, impossible. Fujitora was important for Law's plan of having Doula throw away his Warlord status as an Admiral would be needed to arrest Doula Mongo, so he was required to be present.
And really, not having an Admiral sent immediately to a situation involving two Warlords + Luffy would be beyond stupid. Any scenario not involving a Marine Admiral being present could be considered plot stupidity from the Marines' part.
Not to mention getting rid of the whole insight we had on Fuji's character, like his philosophy, goals and interactions with Luffy, Zoro and Doula.
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Again, impossible. Fujitora was important for Law's plan of having Doula throw away his Warlord status as an Admiral would be needed to arrest Doula Mongo, so he was required to be present.
Laws plan was that Kaidou should murder lofulamingo for loosing the SAD and or the smile factory.
And really, not having an Admiral sent immediately to a situation involving two Warlords + Luffy would be beyond stupid. Any scenario not involving a Marine Admiral being present could be considered plot stupidity from the Marines' part.
That is if you think the marine have eyes everywhere. Then i wonder why they weren't aware of caesars experiments on punk hazard¿
Not to mention getting rid of the whole insight we had on Fuji's character, like his philosophy, goals and interactions with Luffy, Zoro and Doula.
That could have been introduced non the less later. Also his interactions with the Shs have been uninteresting at best. To everyone on the island it was always a wtf do you want here. Or wtf are you doing. What did those interactions bring you?
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Going back to chapter 761:http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-762-page-9.html
I wonder if DoFlamingo's so called trump card here will save his ass from being thrown into Impel Down, or perhaps will the World Nobles finally seize the chance to do away with him now that he's defeated??
Surely he has some sort of failsafe in place for this exact situation. Perhaps even leveraging his underground network: "In the event of my capture, threaten to release this video…"
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Going back to chapter 761:http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-762-page-9.html
I wonder if DoFlamingo's so called trump card here will save his ass from being thrown into Impel Down, or perhaps will the World Nobles finally seize the chance to do away with him now that he's defeated??
of course he is not gonna be thrown in impel down…the tenryuubito will kill him first
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Laws plan was that Kaidou should murder lofulamingo for loosing the SAD and or the smile factory.
He was going to corner him either with Kaidou or Fujitora. This is why he gave Smoker that Green Bit tip.
Then Doula pulled that newspaper trick. Did you really forget all that?
That is if you think the marine have eyes everywhere. Then i wonder why they weren't aware of caesars experiments on punk hazard¿
What? They knew about Luffy and Law through Smoker's report and Doula through the newspaper. No need for eyes everywhere.
Really, they had everything they needed to start the investigation on the alliance and Doula. Why would they not do anything?
That could have been introduced non the less later.
How do you know this? He might not appear until the Reverie.
And until then, establishing all those things is important. And what a better situation than in the face of the Warlord that abused his status the most?
Also his interactions with the Shs have been uninteresting at best. To everyone on the island it was always a wtf do you want here. Or wtf are you doing. What did those interactions bring you?
The interaction with Doula gave us his goal, for starters.
Also, we know he trusts Luffy because of the bar scene, even betting on him. More insight on his tendency to gamble even with people.
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You guys think Kid and the gang will end up being an ally? I think if not all, atleast most of "the worst generation" will team up at some point to take on the WG. Bonney is super mysterious which I never saw that coming and Kid reminds me so much of a Vegeta kind of dude, evil but not eeeevil evil.
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Surely he has some sort of failsafe in place for this exact situation. Perhaps even leveraging his underground network: "In the event of my capture, threaten to release this video…"
Only trouble is that the fuck up is so royally public that even the video might not be enough to save him.
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Does the One Piece world even have video recordings?
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And it looks like Trebol is still alive.
next mini adventure for him?
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@joekido:
- , he made Germany wealthy, puts everyone to work and everyone's spirits were up. I mean look at how there was so many festivals and rally parades. After the war in Europe, Germany's economy went back to 1932. Yes I'm aware Germany is experiencing a similar thing today which is 10 times better then it was in 1933. My point here is Dressrosa was like Germany and Doflamingo was pretty much like Hitler.
no really hitler made germany poor, you looked only half the story
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France = marines ?
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Well, now that Doflamingo is taken away in chains…
What does everyone think is connection was with Momonosuke? It's kind of odd for that to be left unresolved with Doflamingo out of the picture. -
Well, now that Doflamingo is taken away in chains…
What does everyone think is connection was with Momonosuke? It's kind of odd for that to be left unresolved with Doflamingo out of the picture.I think momonosuke ate the original artificial fruit that the SMILEs were made from… maybe he can control Kaido's entire SMILE army or maybe they switch back&forth between forms uncontrollably as he does. I'm pretty sure it has to do with SMILEs though and we already had foreshadowing about Kaido&Samurai/Wano
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I think momonosuke ate the original artificial fruit that the SMILEs were made from… maybe he can control Kaido's entire SMILE army or maybe they switch back&forth between forms uncontrollably as he does. I'm pretty sure it has to do with SMILEs though and we already had foreshadowing about Kaido&Samurai/Wano
Doflamingo didn't even know Momonosuke ate that fruit at least at the beginning of the arc. The samurai were already pursued when they first arrived at Dressrosa (before Punk Hazard) and later, when Jora attacked the Sunny to kidnap the boy, she didn't realizte at first that the dragon was Momo either.
A common theory is that he is actually Wano royalty - which I don't really like as I hope his relationship with Kinemon is genuine. Maybe it has something to do with Kaido since both Kinemon & Momo were very shocked when that name was mentioned on the Sunny.
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no really hitler made germany poor, you looked only half the story
Nah, that was the rest of the world, with reperations and a nearly complete deconstruction of germanys industry, or what was left of it after the aerial bombardment.
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Well, now that Doflamingo is taken away in chains…
What does everyone think is connection was with Momonosuke? It's kind of odd for that to be left unresolved with Doflamingo out of the picture.I think that was the after effect of him seeing Doflamingo torture and slash that timid gladiator, combined with his famine and Luffy's shenanigans/df shock he just hallucinated.
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hahaha, serve you right burgess, so pathetic lol . Sabo is way way too stronger than him. after this incident, I still doubt if WG will disband ouka sichibukai since they are part of three greatest powers in the world.. but who knows, it can be more amazing it happens because there will be more great wars between marine and pirates.. :D
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Good to see Fujitora's plan in effect. The Warlords usefulness would make a great topic at the Reverie.
Makes sense Sabo overpowered Burgess. I doubt he's facing the monster trio anytime soon. Assuming he's going against Franky or a less powerful Strawhat, Burgess's current strength (with a devil fruit later) is fine.
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Burgess being defeated by one of Sanji's Hell Memories techniques would be a nice callback.
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He did say he won't let Luffy do whatever he pleases and also stated that they were falling behind in terms of feats in the New World, hence the rushed formation of their alliance. if 3 Supernovas in Dressrossa can do all that shit in one day why can't the four (Kid, Killer, Hawkins, Apoo) do something batshit crazy in the same amount of time? For some reason I don't think Luffy's bounty will ever be higher than Kid's until the two face off (not for very long anyway).
Again: Would be anticlimatic and definitely not on the very same day we've been following for the past 2 1/2 years.
Did you even understand my very basic argument? Law and Luffy are the highlight for the world right now. It would be bad writing, if Oda let them do something of equal size right on this very day.
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Again: Would be anticlimatic and definitely not on the very same day we've been following for the past 2 1/2 years.
Did you even understand my very basic argument? Law and Luffy are the highlight for the world right now. It would be bad writing, if Oda let them do something of equal size right on this very day.
Yeahhhhhh man 420 blaze it!
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Can't wait until Law hears about The BigMom situation XD they've pretty much angered all the yonkos except for Shanks, I don't think he knows how deep his relationship(no homo) with Luffy really is.
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Again: Would be anticlimatic and definitely not on the very same day we've been following for the past 2 1/2 years.
Did you even understand my very basic argument? Law and Luffy are the highlight for the world right now. It would be bad writing, if Oda let them do something of equal size right on this very day.
I understood what you were saying. So writing "basic" and sounding condescending isn't exactly helping you get your point across more than it already has. You're saying Oda would not let the other alliance steal Luffy and Law's thunder on this very momentous day, but unlike you I won't completely rule out Kid doing something crazy which won't make anything anti-climactic but instead will show us that Luffy has some real competition on his hands and the other big supernovas won't let him steal all the limelight. But yeah point taken maybe they'll do something tomorrow or in the near future after getting word of what Luffy alliance has done.
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Why are the marines not bothered about Burgess getting hold of him would be an even bigger coup for them.
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Why are the marines not bothered about Burgess getting hold of him would be an even bigger coup for them.
Burgess is currently incapacitated so I don't think they'll overlook him before they leave the island. What they choose to do with him is something I'm looking forward to seeing too.
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Again: Would be anticlimatic and definitely not on the very same day we've been following for the past 2 1/2 years.
Did you even understand my very basic argument? Law and Luffy are the highlight for the world right now. It would be bad writing, if Oda let them do something of equal size right on this very day.
Not really, as Kid is supposed to be on the same level as Luffy and Law.
I'm not expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised either.
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Bounties tend to come out a couple days to a week from the event. With everything that's happening around the Strawhats right now, who's to say they won't have gained even more infamy by then? Taking down Doflamingo is certainly deserving of a bounty raise, but I'm not sure it will be singled out as the cause of one. Kinda like how Luffy's boost to 400 million Beri was comprised of his break in to Impel Down, his escape from Impel Down and the alliance he briefly forged, his efforts at Marineford, and his lineage.
Speaking of Marineford, Luffy's new bounty was the highest of the Supernovas then. Law even mentioned how Luffy raised the bar and pushed the rest of the Generation towards new exploits. That said, if/when Kid and Luffy face off I'd want Kid to have the higher bounty.
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Even If Kid is in the same ball park as Luffy and Law it wouldn't make sense for him to accomplish something as big as what Luffy and Law just accomplished in the same day as they did, hell, we can argue that they won't be able to do it within a week either.
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Not really, as Kid is supposed to be on the same level as Luffy and Law.
I'm not expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised either.
Yep, but he doesn't go around liberating islands and saving people. He kills them. His feats are those of conquering and terror which is cool with WG since that's what top tier pirates are suppose to be, But Law and Luffy on the other hand.. Luffy just took out his third Shichibukai and Law just gave up his, brokers, Kaido, disrupted weapons networks. Not trying to discredit the guy, but their actions are clearly more impact full on the world. Unless he takes out a Yonko or a Shichibukai with his gang, I don't think his impact on the world will be as strong as their.
Can't wait to see him in action though! his awakened fruit(whenever that happens) should be insane!
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I thought overall that this was a great chapter.
First of all there was Sabo's decimation of Burgess, to which I don't really understand the backlash. Sabo is number two of the RA, appearing to have trained directly with/under Dragon, AKA the most dangerous ma in the world. This alone equipped him to be able to beat out Burgess, though not really directly, in the coliseum but with the addition of the Mera Mera his power level sky-rocketed (remember this fruit was so powerful that Rebecca thought she could use it to beat Doffy lol). Then if this was not enough as we've seen happen with antagonists to Luffy/Ace in the past, ole Burgers invoked that rage the brothers are known for causing a full-power strike. To me it makes perfect sense that Burgess became fodder no matter what his supposed position was, as others have said he has time to grow. It seems to me it was set up perfectly that Burgess and Sabo were on equal ground until the Mera, but after that there was no chance.
The real satisfaction in my opinion though came from finally seeing Fujitora's actions come to bear fruit. He had orders to come deal with the Doflamingo situation in the beginning, but turned out having to go after Luffy and Law. His position means he cannot act against a warlord so he puts on the façade of a proper admiral and goes after the supposed rouges (SHs). He sees that Doflamingo is destroying the country and he sees that Luffy/Law are trying to stop DD. Thus he "distracts" himself with things such as aiding the civilians, fighting Sabo etc. He sticks to taking actions that an employee of the WG "should" make in this warped world. Until this chapter that is. The apology was so powerful because it was a public admission of guilt and wrongdoing from a high-ranking official in the WG, but I also felt it was because he was apologizing for the actions he and his men took on that very day. Fujitora clearly knew he was not doing all he could for the country, this proves that acting solely on the authority of the WG is not sufficient in stopping some of the evil plaguing the OP world (as well as obviously tying into his plan to abolish the warlords.)
Also as a side note, contrary to popular opinion I actually felt greatly for King Dold throughout this entire arc so to see him finally get his country and his loving subjects back. Long live Riku-sama the Miracle King.
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After looking at this, you will never think of this chapter the same again..
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LooooooL good one.
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Is it possible that BB will chase after Sabo now (and the revolutionaries ?) to avenge Burgess ? Burgess was shown to be easily handled by Sabo, he is very well below the admiral level, I can't imagine him being an opponent of any of the top 3-4 strawhats in the final fight !? Unless he gets some overpowered DF, and even so…
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Really Oda your gonna have these loser defeat the Red-hair pirates.
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Really Oda your gonna have these loser defeat the Red-hair pirates.
It doesn't have to be a fair fight. Underhanded methods Is their specialty. Like showing up after the Red Haired pirates had a near death fight with some powerful group, to finish them off.
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Burgess was careless. Consider it the CP9 syndrome. He's most likely stronger and more competent than he was shown to be, but he got into the moment and got his ass kicked.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
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@400MillionBelis:
Burgess was careless. Consider it the CP9 syndrome. He's most likely stronger and more competent than he was shown to be, but he got into the moment and got his ass kicked.
CP9 had skills. They had speed and power.
Burgess only had power, he's too slow for Sabo.
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Yeah wouldn't be surprised if his only strength is…his strength. He has never shown any other quality.
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lol, funny how people react to Burgess. He is a complete joke, and have always been. To bad Sabo didnt kill him. Hope he fries Rebecca next.
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Nah, that was the rest of the world, with reperations and a nearly complete deconstruction of germanys industry, or what was left of it after the aerial bombardment.
yeah, thank to Adolf
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I love that evey guy that gets defeated turns into a fodder, weakling, whatever. Take note that Sabo had a draw with Fujitora and since the battle was off panel, we go based on that.
Next thing you know, Whitebeard was a weakling because he got defeated/killed. Aokiji got defeated too.
Whitebeard, Aokiji=fodders confirmed.
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It doesn't have to be a fair fight. Underhanded methods Is their specialty. Like showing up after the Red Haired pirates had a near death fight with some powerful group, to finish them off.
Yeah that scenario is really gonna get me pumped up for Strawhats Vs. Blackbeard pirates.
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Yeah that scenario is really gonna get me pumped up for Strawhats Vs. Blackbeard pirates.
Just as exciting as the BB vs. dying WB fight…
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@uniaka:
I love that evey guy that gets defeated turns into a fodder, weakling, whatever. Take note that Sabo had a draw with Fujitora and since the battle was off panel, we go based on that.
Next thing you know, Whitebeard was a weakling because he got defeated/killed. Aokiji got defeated too.
Whitebeard, Aokiji=fodders confirmed.
I don't like throwing the word around too much, but for all intents and purposes Burgess was practically fodderized.
Unlike the other guys you mentioned, Burgess wasn't actually shown putting Sabo through any kind of danger. Nor was there any recount of how Burgess did this and that to Sabo or how Sabo barely won. Burgess' attacks all missed, Sabo blew him away like 4 times. And at the end, Burgess is down and Sabo is clean as a whistle. The difference just seems to be too big.
