Sure, if you don't count him cutting Monet and pawning Pica with Armament.
well i know he used haki on them fights, but i dont remember visibly seeing the black used.
Sure, if you don't count him cutting Monet and pawning Pica with Armament.
well i know he used haki on them fights, but i dont remember visibly seeing the black used.
Burgess clearly said in the last chapter your " GOMU GOMU NO MI " is mine , he was not going for the mera mera .
lot of contradictions in this chapter like barto and the band getting healed and are already up , wonder why Law is still lying on the ground pfff
this shows that this birdcage wasnt a very good idea , its full of plotholes , and burgess doesnt care about himself , doffy is threatening everyone on the island he should be dead a while back this dragging just shows that oda is not as inspired as he was .
the most awful fight of the serie in my opinion , lot of asspulls ( awakening , clones that can speak )
well i know he used haki on them fights, but i dont remember visibly seeing the black used.
He definitely used it against Pica. Even followed it with a short flashback of Mihawk explaining how any sword can be a high grade sword with a good Hardening, and how a scratch on a sword is a shame for any real swordsman, or something like it.
Damn! took me some time to understand that "Roger" was just the usual communication term.
Amazing chapter by the way.
Sabo vs Burgess part 2, can't fking wait for that to be animated. hell that fight so far how brief it was has been better than Luffy vs Flamingo, which has been 1 sided so far….
Burgess clearly said in the last chapter your " GOMU GOMU NO MI " is mine , he was not going for the mera mera .
- its been a long time since i wanted to tell this but zoro should at least try to cut the cage , he didn't even try ( okay maybe it regenrates if cutted but still we have to see him trying .
lot of contradictions in this chapter like barto and the band getting healed and are already up , wonder why Law is still lying on the ground pfff
this shows that this birdcage wasnt a very good idea , its full of plotholes , and burgess doesnt care about himself , doffy is threatening everyone on the island he should be dead a while back this dragging just shows that oda is not as inspired as he was .
the most awful fight of the serie in my opinion , lot of asspulls ( awakening , clones that can speak )
You're right about him specifying Gomu Gomu no mi, but it's weird since he also thought Lucy was Luffy, or maybe he figured out it wasn't him.
Awakening has been foreshadowed, hardly an ass asspull there. Speaking clones, I think he makes exact copies of himself from the inside out (he can hold his own organs together with them, so why not?) so maybe it's not as farfetched as you make it out to be. Zoro not trying to cut it is a fair point would be nice to know for sure that he's not able to cut it.
Mangastream version is out.
Sabo vs Burgess part 2, can't fking wait for that to be animated. hell that fight so far how brief it was has been better than Luffy vs Flamingo, which has been 1 sided so far….
Once sided how? It was a good fight at first with Doffy seemingly having the slight edge but when Luffy used Gear fourth it turned one sided, but but your comment makes it seem like Luffy used Gear fourth right off the bat.
How long before Sabo does a Fire Dragon's Roar attack like Natsu? Lol
is this chapter the first time we see Zoro using Haki? when he is attacking the bird cage his fists are black
Chapter 778, two panels were dedicated to showing his hands turning black.
Once sided how? It was a good fight at first with Doffy seemingly having the slight edge but when Luffy used Gear fourth it turned one sided, but but your comment makes it seem like Luffy used Gear fourth right off the bat.
After gear 4 i mean. Though he still seems fine after Luffy's previous attack…i expected him do a bit more than what he has.....
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How long before Sabo does a Fire Dragon's Roar attack like Natsu? Lol
I'd like him to use that Dragon's breath attack like he did to destroy the colosseum arena….except with fire....its simply too perfect...
While agree… This time the reason is beyond stupid... Luffy has no problem with people as Gatz and Co saving his ass.
Zoro at least could hold DoFla off from chasing him...
But you know why it won't happen… Plot reasons
Or, you know, Zoro needs to help with the birdcage. What's the point of fending of DD for 4 minutes if the birdcage will kill everyone in 3 minutes?
Without Zoro helping to tend with the birdcage, there is no point for anyone to even try to fend DD off. Simple math
After gear 4 i mean. Though he still seems fine after Luffy's previous attack…i expected him do a bit more than what he has.....
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I'd like him to use that Dragon's breath attack like he did to destroy the colosseum arena....except with fire....its simply too perfect...
Sabo has become more of a Dragon than Dragon himself.
People who argue about strength levels are silly. Maybe Sabo can beat Burgess here, but the man clearly takes after his captain and is more than meets the eye.
Sabo has become more of a Dragon than Dragon himself.
What if Dragon is a :
Wind Dragon?
Sky Dragon (same shit right?)
Storm Dragon?
Thunder Dragon?
If Burgess thinks he's going to lose them he'll just eat one of the df's he been carrying in his sack, but I doubt it will come to that.
Rebecca's not with Bartolomeo's group. She'll probably get captured by DD, and used to flush Luffy out.
What if Dragon is a :
Wind Dragon?
Sky Dragon (same shit right?)
Storm Dragon?
Thunder Dragon?
The disappearing dragon
Maybe if he cries enough he will appeal to Doffy's kind heart that lays deep within
(He's probably unaware that this guy killed his own father lol)
Yeah, King Dold appeal to the same guy that set you up for the fall ten years ago.
Rebecca's not with Bartolomeo's group. She'll probably get captured by DD, and used to flush Luffy out.
Mansherry is missing aswell, maybe the girls have a plan.
I keep wondering why Law doesn't just use the Ope Ope no Mi to teleport people out of the birdcage? Is he still too weak?
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If Burgess thinks he's going to lose them he'll just eat one of the df's he been carrying in his sack, but I doubt it will come to that.
Wait what? I don't recall him having DF in his bags…...
Just realized: Zoro told Hajrudin the Birdcage would be gone by the time he woke up.
He's up and it's still there.
Also how do the citizens know the name of Birdcage?
I keep wondering why Law doesn't just use the Ope Ope no Mi to teleport people out of the birdcage? Is he still too weak?
He drained himself fighting flamingo
Possible reason for birdcage falling apart might because DD is weakening.
What if Dragon is a :
Wind Dragon?
Sky Dragon (same shit right?)
Storm Dragon?
Thunder Dragon?
Just meant in the old fashioned sense of being a fire breathing dragon, but of course us manga / anime viewers have grown accustomed to elemental dragons (although I think if he's a wind elemental I can see him being able to condense sky/storm/thunder all into one category)
Possible reason for birdcage falling apart might because DD is weakening.
DD is on his last legs. He may get to Luffy before the 10 mins are up but collapse before he can do anything.
Those holes in the cage are telling.
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He definitely used it against Pica. Even followed it with a short flashback of Mihawk explaining how any sword can be a high grade sword with a good Hardening, and how a scratch on a sword is a shame for any real swordsman, or something like it.
He used it on Pica but not on Monet except for the tiny cut he made on her cheek, then he cut her in two, if he had used haki she would have died there and then.
People who argue about strength levels are silly. Maybe Sabo can beat Burgess here, but the man clearly takes after his captain and is more than meets the eye.
To an extent I agree, his raw strength is very similar to BB, BB's clothesline almost snapped Ace's neck off. He also has raw strength that would be enough to make him a Whitebeard division commander (though he declined since he had other motives for being in their crew), without having a fruit. But now he's gotten the fruits he wanted he's become immensely strong, so maybe Burgess needs to find something that compliments his style to even the playing field. Fire wouldn't suit him anyway…
Reminds me of what Doffy said to Luffy, he's certainly got the speed to be a contender but lacks the power behind his attacks, Burgess is the opposite he seems to not be quick enough but his strength is evidently at superhuman levels.
Senor Pink's fruit might be good for him. He can suplex everyone easily
Wait what? I don't recall him having DF in his bags…...
Yes, you're right. It hasn't been revealed as to what the bag contains but who's say that he doesn't have a bunch of dfs in there. Most people claim he's got smile in his bag but i doubt he went after the artificial ones. He could have gotten his hands on some real dfs from dofla's vault. Doffy was in a very influential position and he could have kept some cool dfs in the palace. These are not bad assumptions i would say (:
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Just realized: Zoro told Hajrudin the Birdcage would be gone by the time he woke up.
He's up and it's still there.
Also how do the citizens know the name of Birdcage?
He wasn't exactly aware that a magical dwarf princess would help the fallen get back on their feet at the time of making that statement.
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DD is on his last legs. He may get to Luffy before the 10 mins are up but collapse before he can do anything.
Those holes in the cage are telling.
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He used it on Pica but not on Monet except for the tiny cut he made on her cheek, then he cut her in two, if he had used haki she would have died there and then.
He used the cold-stare no mi which made a snow user freeze in place. Fufufufufu
He used it on Pica but not on Monet except for the tiny cut he made on her cheek, then he cut her in two, if he had used haki she would have died there and then.
…So ?
Rebecca was fine, but a major characters like god Ussop and Robin? Pass me what you're having I want to be high too.
They can be "killed" and "revived" by Mansherry.
By the way, you are a troll or something? I saw like 50+ of your messages quoting others in this thread. Or you are going rampage posting? xD
- its been a long time since i wanted to tell this but zoro should at least try to cut the cage , he didn't even try ( okay maybe it regenrates if cutted but still we have to see him trying .
He can't cut it. The Birdcage has already brushed off far worse stuff.
Really, kinda baffling that people can't accept Zoro isn't that strong. He clearly slams Hakified swords on the cage, but nothing happens to the strings.
lot of contradictions in this chapter like barto and the band getting healed and are already up , wonder why Law is still lying on the ground pfff
Law is waiting for the blood on his arm to flow again, so his healing process takes longer. He explains as much.
I really do hope Luffy knocks Dofla out with Conqueror's Haki rather than turning into Gear 4 again
After reading the chapter a lot of things come to my mind
First the cover of the chapter with Zoro playing Taiko, his hands seems to be harden with haki
Second Burgess being a douche and got his ass kicked for a second time in a row by Sabo, for once Sabo is useful
Third Zoro using fluid haki makes me think Zoro is also having the king Haki, not surprising cause he is the future pirate king right arm and the future world best swordman.Also What Zoro said was really awesome, about not giving it up even if it looks bad.
Third is how in the world they can move that tower?!
Fourth the Barto and Co coming to save the last minutes to Luffy so he can finally ends with Mingo.
I'm satisfied in overall, next chapter will be great, i have hope!
About Doffy and using CoO, judging from the scene where Usopp used Haki, at first Luffy, Law and Sugar looked identical. So I guess, you won't see these auras clearer until you actually focus on them. So, in order to find a specific one, you still have to search for it inbetween the mass of others.
Not a bad chapter.
I enjoyed the cover page. Especially the relation of Taiko drumming and Kiai (though I believe that's more of Iva's thing).
Nice touch that Haki is shown visually, it's cool.
Oh and Rebecca, I'm not gonna get my hopes up but I hope you do something cool.
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Zoro's lies
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http://i.imgur.com/njzlpJz.jpgLOL
Lol. The first panel I gotta say if I was Zoro, I'd be pretty embarrassed. But I say it's still a small matter, Doflamingo isn't easy and considering it's gonna be gone soon enough, it's nice to let Hajrudin see that moment.
The second panel however, is not that simple as it relates to Ki.
I'll try and use an analogy to explain the difference between Haki, Ki and/ "Breath".
Think of Ki as the Ocean, or the Universe, anything that is huge with an amount (whether it be finite or infinite; I'm not gonna start an argument about the Universe..) and has "Force".
Haki is the direction, think of it as like the waves or flowing river or anything similar like velocity to speed. It's the applied flow/direction through willpower, intentions and the sorts.
In all types of forces, there's a difference, when there's a difference, the force travels from a higher potential difference to a lower potential difference. Water flows from higher ground to lower regions. Electricity, voltage is that potential difference, it determines the flow of electric current. Heat, a region of higher temperature will transfer to a region of lower temperature.
Now apply that to Haki. If your Haki is stronger than your opponent(s), your attack will flow through him, how strong is the flow, this current, depends on the potential difference. If the difference in Haki between you and your opponent, he could probably be knocked out by your sheer will. If the difference is small, you may lend him a good hit, but not enough to take him out. If the difference is equal? Nothing happens.
Which was confirmed by Zoro during his fight with Pica: "only if your Haki is stronger than mine".
"Breath" in One Piece is the same to being "one with Ki". To become one/to know the "frequency", the "rhythm" and sorts. It's a gradual progression type of thing, which can be applied/be seen two ways: Zoro cutting steel but very unlikely that he could cut diamond, for instance and Zoro needing to focus to cut steel when he just learned it. You also gotta remember that Zoro holds no grudges, in fact he can't let his emotions run uncontrollably unlike Sanji, his fight with Mr.1, his fights in Skypeia (especially when Chopper was cut by Ohm) and even his 'stoic' character progression - albeit arrogant but that seems intentional.
Anyway, "breath" is to be one with Ki, to be one with Ki is believed to be one with the universe (again, gradual progression) and to be one with Ki/the universe, you cannot let yourself concern with winning, losing, anger, revenge etc – in One Piece this is shown visually when Zoro "breathes" (all through Chapter 195 and Chapter 271 before he cuts Ohm's iron cloud).
Nen is never concerned with winning or losing, and it grows by becoming properly connected to the ki of the universe. When that happens, nen becomes a supernatural power that sees clearly all things in the world, even the smallest movement of hand or foot. One becomes like the clear mirror reflecting all things, and since one stands in the center of the universe, one can see with clarity that which is off-center.
[To try and clarify further, if you can control your breathing (and the simplest to show visually) you can control your own energy - your Ki and have it be a power under your control. Zoro's Pound Phoenix is Ki. Here's a quick example from another manga [hide][/hide]
So.. yeah, Zoro can cut strings sure, but Doflamingo's Haki being strong(er) makes sense, but Zoro's logic towards the bird cage also makes sense - it is after all just one man behind it. In fact, you can think of anyone who is not at all seen worried about the Birdcage as a sort of indication that their Haki is at least equal to Doflamingo's.
Hope that helped. Even though I'm most likely wasting my time.](To try and clarify further, if you can control your breathing (and the simplest to show visually) you can control your own energy - your Ki and have it be a power under your control. Zoro's Pound Phoenix is Ki. Here's a quick example from another manga [hide][img]http://i.imgur.com/lrykTom.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/JQPMXFw.jpg[/img][/hide]
So.. yeah, Zoro can cut strings sure, but Doflamingo's Haki being strong(er) makes sense, but Zoro's logic towards the bird cage also makes sense - it is after all just one man behind it. In fact, you can think of anyone who is not at all seen worried about the Birdcage as a sort of indication that their Haki is at least equal to Doflamingo's.
Hope that helped. Even though I'm most likely wasting my time.)
And looking at Usopp's view, I wonder if it's possible to differentiate an impostor like Mr. 2 if he has the exact same stature from the actual original in any way.
Lol. The first panel I gotta say if I was Zoro, I'd be pretty embarrassed.
Eh, Zoro never said he was going to cut the birdcage. That's all been the fans. After he beat Puca, Zoro said outright that the birdcage wouldn't disappear until Doflamingo is defeated. He's always been faithful that Luffy would be the one to get rid of it. All Zoro is doing is giving Luffy enough time to beat Doflamingo
Oh boy my brain is pretty slow today.
Just noticed that 3 minutes < 4 minutes. Yohohoho!
Chapter seems complete and satisfying. Maybe because there wasn't much of a cliffhanger like last week.
Though Oda picked my interest with the Fujitora panel.
Eh, Zoro never said he was going to cut the birdcage. That's all been the fans. After he beat Puca, Zoro said outright that the birdcage wouldn't disappear until Doflamingo is defeated. He's always been faithful that Luffy would be the one to get rid of it. All Zoro is doing is giving Luffy enough time to beat Doflamingo
Right, Zoro doesn't interfere with Luffy's fight but he interferes by slowing down the cage. That reasoning is quite flawed.
Right, Zoro doesn't interfere with Luffy's fight but he interferes by slowing down the cage. That reasoning is quite flawed.
My spider sense is tingling at you new guy
Right, Zoro doesn't interfere with Luffy's fight but he interferes by slowing down the cage. That reasoning is quite flawed.
No it isn't, it's outright what Zoro is doing. The birdcage itself isn't really affecting Luffy's fight. It is causing widespread mayhem among the citizens. He's not going to fight Doflamingo with Luffy, but Zoro sure as hell isn't going to just sit about and do nothing while the town goes to hell. In the same way he was instrumental in stopping Crocodile and Enel, not by fighting them, but by getting Vivi to the bomb and cutting the beanstalk with Wiper
Barto was the star of this chapter for me haha. Just that one panel of his chest out and arms spread.
Barto for pirate king!!!
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Barto was the star of this chapter for me haha. Just that one panel of his chest out and arms spread.
Barto for pirate king!!!
Barto is a boss!
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They can be "killed" and "revived" by Mansherry.
By the way, you are a troll or something? I saw like 50+ of your messages quoting others in this thread. Or you are going rampage posting? xD
A bit of of both, lol but I didn't know Mansherry could revive people back from the dead, I would need to go back and re-read that :/
I doubt it's stated anywhere that she can o.o
A bit of of both, lol but I didn't know Mansherry could revive people back from the dead, I would need to go back and re-read that :/
I doubt it's stated anywhere that she can o.o
We really don't have much info on her powers .
We know she can heal people but even then they are many different way healing powers work in fiction .
Let's run a simulation: Zoro cuts one thread. The thread is still attached to the top of the birdcage. Now let's take a look at what happens from above.
Black: string cut by Zoro
Red: blood of the innocent citizen
Dear God, please lead Oda therto, that he will not create ANY SINGLE Village/City or anything else, on the Main Island, where Kaidou has his Mainbase established. Just a Giant Base, with many SMILE-User and good Fightlocations.
Oh, and those "Lights" in Fujitoras Panel. Its Nami, using some Weathertechniques on the BC. Shes right in the next Panel! :ninja: