all hopes are headed for the next ingredient, hopefully Komatsu will die again and put in a space quasi-dimensional hyper vortex in the neighbour back channel so he won't ruin the cooking method
Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
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That was something I guess.
Not a good week for the other series to be on break, cause this wasn't satisfying really. I don't mind Komatsu finding a simple method, but when there are cooking methods involved, cutting a hole to leak the fluids out shouldn't be the simple solution.
#Komatsu is Toriko's Erza
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Komatsu was implied being a prodigy, when he becomes a fighter and solos everyone because he is Komatsu then he would be the Erza of the Torikoverse.
Finally we get to see Guemon again, and real Kaka has a prettier face than the fake one.
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T#Komatsu is Toriko's Erza
Not you too, Franky Tank!
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Komatsu was implied being a prodigy, when he becomes a fighter and solos everyone because he is Komatsu then he would be the Erza of the Torikoverse.
Finally we get to see Guemon again, and real Kaka has a prettier face than the fake one.
He may be a prodigy, but there still is a limit. Also, if it was having a sense of hearing the voice, and pulling off complicated cooking techniques I would be fine. This chapter, it was poke in hole and everything is good, no cooking needed.
Not you too, Franky Tank!
Mwahahaha
Really just a stupid joke. At most Komatsu just has everything framed as convenient and not through talent and work. I just made the Erza comparison for the fact that Toriko said that's Komatsu for you, which really reminded me of that Erza moment in the last arc "It's because she's Erza".
Also Komatsu became a woman.
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Wait, Guemon's supposed to be dead?
The stuff Pair does is interesting, even if incredibly random. But I can dig it.
Now, Komatsu is dangerously stepping on Mary "cooking" Sue territory far too fast. It no longer is compelling to watch him do his shit, and watching Komatsu do his shit should always be compelling and a big part of his appeal as a character, cause honestly, beyond that he has very little to offer, if anything at all.
This was a pretty stupid decision on Shima's part, imho. I get it, there was going to be an alternate cooking method to all those incredibly complex and impractical instructions Kaka was giving, but going from that to "Komatsu very slightly pokes Pair with the tip of his knife and the ingredient immediately surrenders to Matsu's Voice of All Things swagger" is one big fucking jump to make. And a bullshitty one at that. This is no longer even on the realm of cooking.
As I said, there's being the eternal underdog cook, there's stepping up from that, and then there's being a literal walking god of ingredients. It makes you stop wanting to root for him, and it makes his feats less impressive and more grating to look at. It's the Law of Trafalgar (Law).
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Can somebody refresh my memory as to what happened with Guemon? I vaguely recall that he trained one of the Heavenly Kings (Sunny, I want to say), but beyond that, I can't recall what else he's done or how he wound up dying.
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Can somebody refresh my memory as to what happened with Guemon? I vaguely recall that he trained one of the Heavenly Kings (Sunny, I want to say), but beyond that, I can't recall what else he's done or how he wound up dying.
Him along with the rest of the 0th Biotope got assaulted by the Gourmet Nobles aka Blue Nitro. The last time he was seen lying in the ground, bleeding.
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I'm amazed at Toriko.
It started as a more or less traditional battle shonen and its becoming wackier and wackier with every chapter (so much unlike One Piece, which is following the same road but on the opposite direction)
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Honestly I think this arc went TOO far in the direction of wacky. When you center a story around grabbing Super Monkey Balls for food, you don't need to escalate the crazy.
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I think I can't deny it any longer: I can't get any enjoyment out of current Toriko anymore.
Like Toriko was alway ridiculous, but the ridiculousness had a logical connection to some themes and - while still impossible - had at least some basis in real life physics.
I don't really see that anymore, when we get an arc that plays on the biggest continent ever, with gigantic creatures of all kind on it - which are then replaced by rather normal-sized apes - where they have to get the balls of the Monkey King, that after a weird dance with his soulmate, shall be hung upon a giant tree, but soup can be extraced from it, for which you would have to do a very weird string of things to get it…or poke a hole in it, so it can serve about 5 billion people, oh and it also changes your gender shortly and you can see dead people after eating.
I don't want to offend anyone, who still really likes Toriko, but it just sounds like random shit made up on the spot, without any thought behind it at all. And that's not really my cup of tea... -
but it just sounds like random shit made up on the spot, without any thought behind it at all.
If there's one thing that is pretty noticeable, is that the arc is rather well planned and thought-out.
I believe you just don't like the added layer of humor which happens to be more surreal/ridiculous than in most arcs of Toriko.
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If there's one thing that is pretty noticeable, is that the arc is rather well planned and thought-out.
Agreed, stuff have been ridiculous for sure, but it's clear that it was all planned out.
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how was it planned out exactly???
and I'm sorry the transforming into a woman thing wasn't needed at all, it's really toddler humor, as is the monkey king making a floating cloud out of poop, Toriko's starting to slowly devolve into potty 9 year old humor in an attempt to get laughs and it's actually quite annoying, I'd imagine a larage amount of his audience with the fights being so brutal, were geared at one point towards older audiences
now it's like… "hey the thing they need to get named pair, is the monkey's balls!!! HAHAHAHA.... the monekys cloud is actually poop HAHAHA... they went from men to women BWHAHA" I feel immature just reading it
plus he didn't even describe how the food tasted, remeber when they finally ate the jewel meat, the description alone even without pictures would have your mouth watering to a frenzy, now it's just like yeah shits mad good no description needed.... I really loved the descriptions
plus the overall rushedness of the series now.... I think I'm dropping it pretty soon
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Kaka's evil twin blue nitro who probably ended up killing the real Kaka
Guemon hinted at early on
Monkey civilization dance
Bambi's loved one on the other side of PAIRRegardless of how you feel about the antics or stuff, Shima did at least think out what he wanted in this particular story.
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Kaka's evil twin blue nitro who probably ended up killing the real Kaka
Guemon hinted at early on
Monkey civilization dance
Bambi's loved one on the other side of PAIRRegardless of how you feel about the antics or stuff, Shima did at least think out what he wanted in this particular story.
Not sure about the whole planning out. Most of the stuff you pointed out was stuff that happened more recently. What he planned and didn't plan can only be speculated unless we have a script to look at. Also how well it was executed in the end is a huge part, and overall it wasn't that great, though I am interested in the next chapter.
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Not sure about the whole planning out. Most of the stuff you pointed out was stuff that happened more recently. What he planned and didn't plan can only be speculated unless we have a script to look at. Also how well it was executed in the end is a huge part, and overall it wasn't that great, though I am interested in the next chapter.
The point was that he had at least laid something out that he followed up on.
Execution is another thing. But he definitely was laying down an overall idea of where he wanted to go.
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The point was that he had at least laid something out that he followed up on.
Execution is another thing. But he definitely was laying down an overall idea of where he wanted to go.
Fair enough. You do get plenty of series (any media) that sets something up and doesn't follow through with it. Most infamous example I can think of is the dark world episode of Digimon Season 2.
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I'm kinda on the fence with Toriko. I'm not really feeling it anymore. I don't get hyped for anything. The comedy isn't amusing to me. The story really isn't that intriguing. The pacing is too fast. The characters are kinda bland to me. I don't feel anything while reading it. I think "OK" after reading after every chapter. The cooking fest was the last time I actually felt enjoyment from reading this series.
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I'm upset. I just read the last 15 chapters after falling behind. This legit used to be my fourth favorite adventure shonen behind One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist and Hunter x Hunter. At this point I don't even know that I'm going to keep reading it. Here's to hoping Toriko gets better because damn that was an awful arc.
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You guys are assuming the rest of the series is gonna be like this when this is just Shimabukuro monkeying around.
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You guys are assuming the rest of the series is gonna be like this when this is just Shimabukuro monkeying around.
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You guys are assuming the rest of the series is gonna be like this when this is just Shimabukuro monkeying around.
A rushed mess that skips some of the defining features of Toriko? Extremely short fights, rushed overall pacing, skipped travel scenes, lack of Toriko pseudo-science, lack of actual cooking preparation?
It's been like that since cooking festival. Three major arcs is a long time. Expecting the next arc to be the same would be prudent.
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Heeeeey guys come on! The scene where they changed into women was kinda funny. I laughed! But I am kinda loopy since I'm still up at 5:40 in the morning.
The overall arc has been pretty decent thanks to Bambina if you ask me. He is the one saving grace of this entire arc. Even with Shima skipping out on exploring his massive continent, the rushed and limited enbu training, the lack of diversive food and enemies (seriously a continent this big provided an excellent opportunity for exploration and food tasting but Shima had to rush through it all because he made the situation so urgent), and
But Bambina was there through it all. His mountain throwing, space jumping, stupid grinning, play/dancing, skin shedding, fun loving monkey face was there through it all and he saved the arc. I really loved his character. Even his love and dedication to his dead mate got to me. The shit clouds were a little too much but that's only 1 blemish on a basically perfect record. He even provided all the ball jokes! Everything else in the arc I couldn't give 2 shit-clouds about. The Sandoriko plants were interesting but we all know what happened with them (gag material). The continents massive size was interesting but that was greatly underutilized, and that's an understatement for the year. I probably have more to say but I'm too tired.
Overall, thank you Bambina!
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Well, I greatly enjoyed the arc.
The main difference that I can tell is that it didn't focus so much on "serious business" like other arcs and had a more surreal and ridiculous sense of humor to it, which is fine by me because having differences in tone between arcs is great, imo, and I found the great majority of the humor enjoyable.
The criticism of them not exploring the continent more, despite it being very big, is not one I really share because, like I stated before, to me that's clearly there for the purposes of world building and providing a scale of the challenges and obstacules that exist in the area that will "conquer". In universe, it wouldn't make much sense for them to waste much time getting to their objective due to Komatsu's condition and due to the fact that the race towards Acacia's menu is underway, nor it would make much sense having them have significant trouble with creatures clearly inferior to the enemies that they must face to overcome the continent (like the masters and then Bambina).
In fact, when we think about it, it's pretty impressive just how much stuff the author put into this arc as it is. All the stuff with the Back Channel, Kaka, Enbu, the lost civilization and the history of the continent, Bambina's story, etc, and most of that still has to be properly explained.
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I didn't mind the rush in the arc either. With Komatsu's condition exploration was a very secondary concern overall.
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I wonder what Toei will do. Sometimes I get the feeling he put that kind of stuff in there intentionally to troll them (wishful thinking though).
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Assuming they even go here. Didn't they do an alternate ending to the cooking festival arc?
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Personally i'm enjoying this. But then again I gave up on treating Toriko seriously at the cooking festival. Ever since, i've treated it like JoJo. Ridiculous, nonsensical, somewhat immature in its jokes, but hilarious and awesome if you embrace all that instead of treating it as a flaw.
Lovin' Toriko. Haters gonna hate :P
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Purple hermit is getting less purple every week.
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Hey you tell Yusei Matsui to make the next AssClass cover a purple face and we'd be all set.
Anyway overall, the arc was aight, at least in comparison to AIR right before it. The highlight was definitely Bambi, and the rushed pace of Toriko kinda makes sense when Komatsu's life is in danger, but Iunno how I feel about much else.
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I forgot, there was one other good thing about the arc besides Bambina. Fake Kaka's berserk face!
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Assuming they even go here. Didn't they do an alternate ending to the cooking festival arc?
Yep.
This is a pretty old post, but it lists most of the stuff they messed up.
So much wrong with this episode. Where do I even begin?
-Toriko defeats Joa with a Mugen (infinite) Kugi Punch.
-Meteor Spice doesn't do shit to Human World.
-Ichiryuu doesn't die… In fact, Midora brings him back to Human World where he sits down to a nice meal with Ichiryuu, Jirou, Setsuno, Mansam and Toriko prepared by Komatsu.- Joa is suddenly alive again at the NEO Hideout.
-Toriko and Komatsu enter the Gourmet World together from the Waterfall Basin of Life.
They'd definitely have to redo the arc (or the end, at least) in order to finish the series.
…But hopefully they decide not to, relinquish the rights, and then another studio picks it up years from now. That's wishful thinking though.
- Joa is suddenly alive again at the NEO Hideout.
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But hopefully they decide not to, relinquish the rights, and then another studio picks it up years from now. That's wishful thinking though.
Crossing my fingers it goes to Madhouse!
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What even is madhouse. I hear about it a lot.
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What even is madhouse. I hear about it a lot.
A pretty popular animation studio. They recently did a great job adapting HxH (and are doing One Punch Man later this year!)
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@Purple:
Hey you tell Yusei Matsui to make the next AssClass cover a purple face and we'd be all set.
Anyway overall, the arc was aight, at least in comparison to AIR right before it. The highlight was definitely Bambi, and the rushed pace of Toriko kinda makes sense when Komatsu's life is in danger, but Iunno how I feel about much else.
I recall that one of the covers or something was purple somewhere a few months back in the assclass thread.
Hrmm, might be closer to light pink…. but I think it'll do?
and volume 3 is pink too...
Never mind...
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Oh wow, I've been watching Assassination Classroom season 1 and I just now realized PurpleHermit's avatar is the teacher.
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A rushed mess that skips some of the defining features of Toriko? Extremely short fights, rushed overall pacing, skipped travel scenes, lack of Toriko pseudo-science, lack of actual cooking preparation?
It's been like that since cooking festival. Three major arcs is a long time. Expecting the next arc to be the same would be prudent.
I was talking more about the crude humor than how the story is structured.
@Average:Crossing my fingers it goes to Madhouse!
I highly doubt Toei will give up Toriko, or any anime they have for that matter.
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I recall that one of the covers or something was purple somewhere a few months back in the assclass thread.
Hrmm, might be closer to light pink…. but I think it'll do?
and volume 3 is pink too...
Never mind...
Volume 13 is coming up as soon as I run through the special volumes, but pink is lovesickness, and inbetween pink and purple is where he has his tongue sticking out.
Purple is his "wrong" face with the X through it lol. Need it Matsui wtfffff
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Personally i'm enjoying this. But then again I gave up on treating Toriko seriously at the cooking festival. Ever since, i've treated it like JoJo. Ridiculous, nonsensical, somewhat immature in its jokes, but hilarious and awesome if you embrace all that instead of treating it as a flaw.
Lovin' Toriko. Haters gonna hate [emoji14]
I call that sort of thing "The Best Kind Of Ridiculous"
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! you know, zonge using the safe routes left behind by the octopus and sticking to safe villages was at least plausible. Arcs like ice hell where he avoided most of the combat were also semi-plausible.
! But dancing with the monkey king which required toriko and co. to master enbu just to play with him without instant death?
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! you know, zonge using the safe routes left behind by the octopus and sticking to safe villages was at least plausible. Arcs like ice hell where he avoided most of the combat were also semi-plausible.
! But dancing with the monkey king which required toriko and co. to master enbu just to play with him without instant death?
! Classic Shima throwing all sense of relative power out of the window like usual.! On the other hand, didn't our gang learn Monkey Martial Arts/Enbu after being utterly terrified for their lives? I'd say that's one area Zonge has them beat
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Chapter is out by kewl, altough not yet on batoto:
! - Guemon and Malee didn't die
- Komatsu confirmed gourmet cells, and demon tho we already knew this when he cooked AIR at the last moment
- Mohyan is doing something extraordinary
- Teppei is a good guy secretly
- Zonge got capture level 10 trillion
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gourmet cells, demons and komatsu, bla bla bla
but oh man that Zonge part, friggin' A+
Toriko straight-up calling him rotten corpse