IIRC Law can locate "things" inside his ROOM with that Scan move.
He can locate things, yes, but not their outwards appearance.
So you have countered my body build argument, true. Though I will point out that at no point is Law is shown to actually use Scan nor did he have any time too, since it happened in literaly seconds.
I just wish we see Luffy go all out against someone similar to his Level in the new world, it was obvious from the beginning that Luffy wouldn't be able to drop Doffy without a handicap or some per-injuries to Doflamingo.
To be fair, DD is hardly injured, he did say it's notn like healing but close enough. And Luffy found in the coliseum, had to fight to get up to the plateau and then got knocked around by Bellamy for a bit. He's hardly in the prime shape to take on DD.
He can locate things, yes, but not their outwards appearance.
So you have countered my body build argument, true. Though I will point out that at no point is Law is shown to actually use Scan nor did he have any time too, since it happened in literaly seconds.
Haki + his DF is enough. All he had to do was locate a body close to him with similar size and switch their bodies (not their clothes) and bam.
that was pretty decent, especially the last page with Luffy stopping Doflamingo from stomping Law. Not sure how to feel about the Ope Ope shenanigans this chapter, but I think my mind just accepted the fruit being ridiculous at this point
Also, Doflamingo fixing his insides was very cool, reminded me and probably a lot of folks of Enel.
To be fair, DD is hardly injured, he did say it's notn like healing but close enough. And Luffy found in the coliseum, had to fight to get up to the plateau and then got knocked around by Bellamy for a bit. He's hardly in the prime shape to take on DD.
Thats true but in that respect do you believe if Luffy was in 100% and Doffy in 100% who should win ? Even though he simply walked over Law without a problem.
Kanjuro. Birds. You know, giant FLYING mounts made of ink we have established he can create?
Sure, he can make them.
But do remember that the quality of his birds hinder their flying ability.
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Though I will point out that at no point is Law is shown to actually use Scan nor did he have any time too, since it happened in literaly seconds.
Does it need to be shown on screen to have happened?
Not at all.
I also wasn't thrilled with this chapter, but man those last few panels were magical.
The last few panels were pretty good, but not enough to salvage this terrible mess for me.
A strong one on one matchup between two of the most seemingly useless but incredibly versatile Devil Fruits in the series could really drag the quality of the entire arc upward.
Or it sink it to the bottom of the sea if, for example, Oda would go Crocodile vs Luffy route and made Doflamingo forget that he has all of those incredibly moves in favor of standart string attacks and basic fisticuffs.
This kid with his 10 shirt appear again!! Jinbe for the 10th member!!
Go go go!!
Luffy… so badass!!!
Thats true but in that respect do you believe if Luffy was in 100% and Doffy in 100% who should win ? Even though he simply walked over Law without a problem.
The fact is this is the only time we will see Luffy fighting at 100% since 2 year time skip, so we don't know what he's capable of yet. I am dubious that he won't win without a new "power up" move that he learned from his training with Rayleigh.
edit: Everyone drinking the haterade it seems, I didn't read the whole forum, but this chapter is the first that I've enjoyed in a while. This arc wasn't the best. I think the setup and lack of SHs didn't help. And the country itself isn't fleshed out enough.
My only critique of the previous few arcs is the dull islands. The scope of the islands aren't great, they feel so small now and the culture isn't developed (by Oda). Even small islands in the first half like Drum, felt huge.
The "taste the hax of my OP devil fruit!" "that's cute, here's real HAXness!" "Bitch please, look how i can do something completly unrelated to the original ability of my DF and reach new levels of OPness" back and forth is NARUTO LEVEL.
Stitching internal organs kind of makes sense considering Doflamingo has string powers for a Devil Fruit. Limiting his DF power to merely cutting things would've been outright boring, IMO. This is not at all different from Crocodile draining body fluids or Enel restoring his heartbeat with electricity. DF mastery, anyone? Hell, the clones, as ridiculously realistic as they are for having been made out of freaking strings, can actually make sense DF-wise if you can reach for and accept certain inspirations/references, such as dolls/puppets being likewise made of threads/strings.
As for Law, I'd chalk things like Countershock and Gamma Knife to his character theme of being a surgeon/doctor, and considering he can manipulate anything inside his "room", I say it's pretty close to what his DF can offer. Still, that doesn't take away the fact that so far, the Ope Ope Fruit has become one of this series' most overpowered Devil Fruits.
This kid with his 10 shirt appear again!! Jinbe for the 10th member!!
Go go go!!Luffy… so badass!!!
That looks like a 90 to me and didn't oda confirm in a SBS that Luffy is just in debut to him ?
@Galaxy:
Sure, he can make them.
But do remember that the quality of his birds hinder their flying ability.
You know, you are right. The fact that the birds are kinda average at flying (Because, lest we forget, IT DID WORK), totaly justifies sitting on their asses waiting to be saved from being horribly slice up to pieces.
Or you know, IT FUCKING DOESN'T!
@Galaxy:
Does it need to be shown on screen to have happened?
Not at all.
It needs to be acknowledged in any way, yes, since it isn't even bloody implied.
And as I pointed out, it doesn't matter anyways since discerning physical appearances is not part of that skill.
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Stitching internal organs kind of makes sense considering Doflamingo has string powers for a Devil Fruit. Limiting his DF power to merely cutting things would've been outright boring, IMO. This is not at all different from Crocodile draining body fluids or Enel restoring his heartbeat with electricity. DF mastery, anyone? As for Law, I'd chalk things like Countershock and Gamma Knife to his character theme of being a surgeon/doctor, and considering he can manipulate anything inside his "room", I say it's pretty close to what his DF can offer. Still, that doesn't take away the fact that so far, the Ope Ope Fruit has become one of this series' most overpowered Devil Fruits.
THOSE TWO THINGS DO NOT WORK TOGETHER!
For fucks sake. If Law's skill is based on the actual gamma knife, the one used to removal of tumors, then it doesn't lacerate the tissue, it bloody kills it! It's dead, Jim! YOU CANNOT FIX IT BY STITCHING IT!
The last few panels were pretty good, but not enough to salvage this terrible mess for me.
Fair enough.
Like I said before, it reminded me Sakazuki stepping on Whitebeard's bisento.
Or it sink it to the bottom of the sea if, for example, Oda would go Crocodile vs Luffy route and made Doflamingo forget that he has all of those incredibly moves in favor of standart string attacks and basic fisticuffs.
Indeed, but done right it could be absolutely magical.
I'm not going to consign this arc to the shit pile quite yet, with the most important part of it yet to come.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
And the big elephant in the room, of course. . .is Fuji. He can fly. His hidden agenda doesn't matter one bit if Doffy is about to slaughter every single soul in the island, he is forced to act. . .or at least, should be forced to act.
I'm not the least worried. No doubt he'll remember that he left his gambling cup o' dice at the tavern downtown, or forgot to fill some paperwork for Sakazuki, or will suddenly have a crave for hot ramen…
In all seriousness, I would really like him to put his foot down at last, or be the person to stop Burgess if the later were to side with Mingo. He's the strongest around and still fresh from all his restin'...
Unfortunately, with Magical Brother Sabo on his way, I see little left for Fuji to do. In fact I have come to share Darth's pessimism regarding Oda's will to ever accomplish anything with this great character. :sad:
Haki + his DF is enough. All he had to do was locate a body close to him with similar size and switch their bodies (not their clothes) and bam.
What about the hair?
@Tom:
The inspiration behind that is most likely Faraday's cage. Is you stop and think about it, we're talking about snails that transmit radio signals. Do we really need to question their functionality when inside a cage made of magical strings. How are we supposed to know how the snail signals react.
Didn't know about Faraday's cage. It seems a reasonable inspiration for Bird Cage.
But the point is strings and den-den mushis having little to do with each other.
I get the whole magical thing and I hardly ever question the use of Devil fruits.
But using strings to somehow block signals is a completely random power used explicitly for the plot.
Can Law's Room stop signals? Who knows. Maybe when the plot requires, his magical circle will conveniently start blocking signals.
Doflamingo might have had turned on some jamming den den mushi and we are only assuming its because of Birdcage.
Thats would be "so Oda"
It would be great if that's the real reason.
Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.
Fair enough.
Like I said before, it reminded me Sakazuki stepping on Whitebeard's bisento.
It is somewhat reminiscent of that, though I still think that the Sakazuki scene is more badass.
It a requirement, I don't want to have to turn my marines fanboy card in.
Indeed, but done right it could be absolutely magical.
I'm not going to consign this arc to the shit pile quite yet, with the most important part of it yet to come.
It could be great, yes.
But you know, this arc left me entirely without optimism for the future.
You know, you are right. The fact that the birds are kinda average at flying (Because, lest we forget, IT DID WORK), totaly justifies sitting on their asses waiting to be saved from being horribly slice up to pieces.
Or you know, IT FUCKING DOESN'T!
You are way too aggressive over a comic book.
The point is that the birds are probably incapable of flying long distances. No reason for Oda to implement that weakness in Kanjuro's drawings otherwise.
And you really have super unrealistic expectations if you think anybody else is helping in this fight. It has never happened in the series, and almost certainly is not going to happen here.
It needs to be acknowledged in any way, yes, since it isn't even bloody implied.
And as I pointed out, it doesn't matter anyways since discerning physical appearances is not part of that skill.
It literally is implied as that's the only way he could have found the guy. You can't call "hax" when we know an ability exists.
And yes it does matter. It literally is an X-Ray that can obviously still see the body, hair, and facial hair.
It needs to be acknowledged in any way, yes, since it isn't even bloody implied.
And as I pointed out, it doesn't matter anyways since discerning physical appearances is not part of that skill.
Haki + scanning skills + from Law's perspective he could've seen the guys body. Law just fighting by the edge of the roof and can see that guys body.
What about the hair?
HE WAS WEARING THE HAT…......like he moved his body, not his clothes, and the guy's head was covered by the hat. I don't know why you need this specific thing to be explicit. They've never been when characters used their kenbunshoku haki, the some of the few times involved mantra on sky island or when Sanji was in Nami's body
I'm pretty sure metals and the like can disrupt radio signals.
But strings are not metals right.
Well, I guess DF strings could be metallic. That seems reasonable.
@Galaxy:
Law's hairstyle is not rare.
Hairstyle doesn't matter. The hat, remember? His facial hair, and it's color does.
More importantly, the combination of all those things. Let us remember, a proper body build is a rarity from a mook in this world. It's not something common.
Hairstyle doesn't matter. The hat, remember? His facial hair, and it's color does.
What about the hat? He switched it with the underling.
More importantly, the combination of all those things. Let us remember, a proper body build is a rarity from a mook in this world. It's not something common.
It's quite the coincidence, but definitely not impossible for someone to have the body build and facial hair.
Hairstyle doesn't matter. The hat, remember? His facial hair, and it's color does.
More importantly, the combination of all those things. Let us remember, a proper body build is a rarity from a mook in this world. It's not something common.
Doffy and Trebol can't see little details with those sunglasses. Yes Oda drew them with sunglasses for this moment all along…or not! Behehehe!
LoL I like how you don't mention that the dude had two arms.
Hairstyle doesn't matter. The hat, remember? His facial hair, and it's color does.
More importantly, the combination of all those things. Let us remember, a proper body build is a rarity from a mook in this world. It's not something common.
HE WAS FACED DOWN. Yeah, I'm done, you need to read the chapter and look at the positioning of the body before you post. He was faced down when he was being shot by DD, so he switched half way before he got all the bullets, then switched back when Luffy distracted DD, so he was the blooded face up body. That's why when he used shambles to do the gamma knife, Luffy and him switched places, b/c at that point he had already switched back with the dummy/fodder.
^seee facing AWAY from DD, faced down and close enough to the edge that when he was fighting DD he could've seen the bodies downstairs.
Guys I just realized that Doffy's fruit was that egg salad sandwich that Fry ate in Futurama and these are the "strings"
@Galaxy:
You are way too aggressive over a comic book.
Invested is the word you are looking for. And yes I am.
@Galaxy:
The point is that the birds are probably incapable of flying long distances. No reason for Oda to implement that weakness in Kanjuro's drawings otherwise.
And you really have super unrealistic expectations if you think anybody else is helping in this fight. It has never happened in the series, and almost certainly is not going to happen here.
That does not make the scene any less stupid. They have the means, but they not even considering using them! The weakness is implied and you don't know if they are incapable of flying the distance.
Having Oda not leave such obvious bloody plot holes is not unrealistic expectation, dammit. There was always a reasonable explanation for why nobody intervened in the main boss fight before. Not this time. So stop it.
@Galaxy:
It literally is implied as that's the only way he could have found the guy. You can't call "hax" when we know an ability exists.
And yes it does matter. It literally is an X-Ray that can obviously still see the body, hair, and facial hair.
Have you ever seen the result of an x-ray?
Because at this point I'm willing to say that you are being deliberatly and falsely obtuse just to provoke me.
I think the argument for Law switching his body and not being noticed depends on when exactly he did it, and how long it was between Law getting shot and Luffy coming up. There isn't an exact way to determine it, so it would be hard to argue either way. If Law was shot, then almost immediately after Luffy came up, which would shift their focus on him, then Law could switch and nobody would notice. If Doflamingo shot him, and it was a good while before Luffy showed up, then it's not looking good on him. Overall, seems like a nitpick to me, but seems to be a bigger deal to others.
That does not make the scene any less stupid. They have the means, but they not even considering using them! The weakness is implied and you don't know if they are incapable of flying the distance.
You have no idea what they're going to do in future chapters. How about once again, you just wait?
Having Oda not leave such obvious bloody plot holes is not unrealistic expectation, dammit. There was always a reasonable explanation for why nobody intervened in the main boss fight before. Not this time. So stop it.
Ah, so what were the reasons before?
Most of the time, it's everybody betting on Luffy to take care of it. You don't know what a plot hole is.
Have you ever seen the result of an x-ray?
Because at this point I'm willing to say that you are being deliberatly and falsely obtuse just to provoke me.
It's logical to believe that the scan has normal capabilities along with the X-ray capabilities, regardless.
Why does every little detail have to be spelled out for you on panel?
@The:
I think the argument for Law switching his body and not being noticed depends on when exactly he did it, and how long it was between Law getting shot and Luffy coming up. There isn't an exact way to determine it, so it would be hard to argue either way. If Law was shot, then almost immediately after Luffy came up, which would shift their focus on him, then Law could switch and nobody would notice. If Doflamingo shot him, and it was a good while before Luffy showed up, then it's not looking good on him. Overall, seems like a nitpick to me, but seems to be a bigger deal to others.
The problem is there are reasonable explanations that is within the rules of the manga world and that user is being very specific and choosing to keep on questioning how it's possible. It's extremely nitpicky just to try to find a way to say, "this chapter sucks and I'm going to explain it by choosing why it wouldn't work" Both their fruits are hax as fuck, but who cares, that doesn't guarantee victory.
@Galaxy:
It's logical to believe that the scan has normal capabilities along with the X-ray capabilities, regardless.
It doesn't only have to be x-ray http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_imaging
I mean, we have technology that can track single molecules moving in a cell in medical tech, so being able to scan a guy 40 ft - 50 ft away isn't impossible especialy since it's a fictional Devil Fruit that uses gamma knives in his hand….so yeah.
Jesus christ, the amount of nitpicking and whinging over the chapter. Not to lambast people like kouch or Daz who have legitimate, PROPRORTIONAL complaints about the chapter but a lot of complaints I see are just whining over the fight not starting or nitpicking over magical powers not working exactly how they THINK they should and saying it's OMG THE WORST THING EVER THIS ARC SUCKS 0/10!!!! Geez, enough nitpicking people, go read this week's chapter of Bleach and get some perspective on how well written, set up and choreographed this chapter was. Fucking shadow clone bullshit this chapter was not, it had far more care and set up and a bigger picture in mind to it.
My only critique of the previous few arcs is the dull islands. The scope of the islands aren't great, they feel so small now and the culture isn't developed (by Oda). Even small islands in the first half like Drum, felt huge.
I would still set aside Punk Hazard, as it was really one lone islet. The rest, however… There have been inconsistencies in the scale of Dressrosa throughout the arc. When the crew first landed, it seemed huge with several different cities ; the Riku flashback and SOP aftermath emphasized this as well. Green Bit was said to be distant from the capital city and truly felt remote (and may have been the only part of the island really worthy of the New World, with its fighting fishes, super strong midgets and crazy overgrown jungle).
However, ever since the bird cage started, there have been several wide shots of the island that insisted on placing all the landmark buildings (royal palace, colosseum, flower field...) and all of the action we saw took place in a urban environment. As a result, the whole island now feels like just one big city and not a wide country
We did see a bit of its culture (relation to the dwarves, pacifist past, gladiators, various spanish-themed bits, ...) but I have to agree that it feels nowhere near as unique as Skypiea did.
It doesn't only have to be x-ray http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_imaging
I mean, we have technology that can track single molecules moving in a cell medical tech, so being able to scan a guy 40 ft - 50 ft away isn't impossible especialy since it's a fictional Devil Fruit that uses gamma knives in his hand….so yeah.
Of course.
Unfortunately, if it isn't spelled out on the pages, some people won't ever believe it.
wow seriously mangastream translation getting really boring each day lol. It so stupid!!!!
@Galaxy:
Of course.
Unfortunately, if it isn't spelled out on the pages, some people won't ever believe it.
It's already spelled it, he has the power of all medical technology in the most haxed way within his sphere THAT INCLUDES immortality. AND he also has kenboushou haki. My problem isn't people being nitpicky, b/c I am too, BUT they are almost denying that it is remotely a possibility that Law can do this. Umm have you looked at his DF lately? He's a fucking god almost.
We did see a bit of its culture (relation to the dwarves, pacifist past, gladiators, various spanish-themed bits, …) but I have to agree that it feels nowhere near as unique as Skypiea did.
Right. I mean, albasta had soo much going for it. And half the fun of an arc was exploring the island and being clueless about what was going on. This is why I think Oda has a lot of chance with Zou to do that. WE have no idea what is going on, and when Luffy and co. land they will have to search for half the crew and they could be missing or something.
It's already spelled it, he has the power of all medical technology in the most haxed way within his sphere THAT INCLUDES immortality. AND he also has kenboushou haki. My problem isn't people being nitpicky, b/c I am too, BUT they are almost denying that it is remotely a possibility that Law can do this. Umm have you looked at his DF lately? He's a fucking god almost.
Thats part of the problem when doing constant ' God ' like things with constant ass-pulls people go crazy.
@Galaxy:
You have no idea what they're going to do in future chapters. How about once again, you just wait?
Fine. I'll wait till the arc ends to comment on their incredible stupidity that's obviously not going to get undone.
It is a rational assumption, since none of them seem to be doing anything other then hoping Luffy can beat Doffy in time.
@Galaxy:
Ah, so what were the reasons before?
Most of the time, it's everybody betting on Luffy to take care of it. You don't know what a plot hole is.
Yes, but that's because they are incapable of doing it themselfs.
During Moria and Alrong fights everyone else was too beat up to intervene.
During Crocodile nobody knew where Croco-boy was and they had a war to stop.
Enel was immune to the attacks of everyone but Luffy.
During Rob Lucci fight they were fighting two hundred captains of the Buster Call.
Oars and Pacifista were beaten by the crew working together.
And they weren't present during Impel Down and Marineford.
Have I forgotten any major fight?
@Galaxy:
It's logical to believe that the scan has normal capabilities along with the X-ray capabilities, regardless.
There does not exists a medical scan that would allow you to see that.
Thats part of the problem when doing constant ' God ' like things with constant ass-pulls people go crazy.
There are df's like that. Look at Kuma's fruit? I accept that there are like 3-4 fruits that are ungodly and that's just inherent in having DF's. There are some that are super overpowered and some that suck. And shambles is not an ungodly move, he did say he's sacraficing his own lifeforce to do this.
There does not exists a medical scan that would allow you to see that.
There isn't medical technology that allows for you to hold a gamma knife in your hand either…..but oda still did it.
There are medical technology that allows for to image 3d pictures of hearts so just use your "imagination" and apply it to law 3d imaging that person 50 ft below him.
And the incredibly convenience of there being a dead dude having almost exact same style of clothing as Law, along with the same body build, black hair and beard.
Law switched without his clothes. That's the standard Doula crew uniform.
The first one was downright silly but the other two aren't really that ridiculous at all tbh.
He can vast quantities of string and mesh them together to create much thicker and more durable strings, so he arranges them in a huge cage-like structure.
He can control incredibly thin strings (some invisible to the human eye) with uncanny accuracy, so he uses thin strings to stitch together his organs.
I'm fine with both.
Having a logical explanation to them doesn't change the fact that they're just contrived plot devices.
i hate how the story is structured to rely on them, while what you should do is make your character figure their way out of problems and have them incorporate their powers into the solution but don't make their power the sole solution.
There are df's like that. Look at Kuma's fruit? I accept that there are like 3-4 fruits that are ungodly and that's just inherent in having DF's. There are some that are super overpowered and some that suck. And shambles is not an ungodly move, he did say he's sacraficing his own lifeforce to do this.
There is not medical technology that allows for you to hold a gamma knife in your hand either…..
There are medical technology that allows for to image 3d pictures of hearts so just use your "imagination" and apply it to law 3d imaging that person 50 ft below him.
I personally think Laws fruit is the most HAX fruit we've ever come across. Kuma has exceptions example he can only repel with his paws otherwise he can't repel sending people flying isn't bad but nothing like an instant defeat compared to Law.
You know, you are right. The fact that the birds are kinda average at flying (Because, lest we forget, IT DID WORK), totaly justifies sitting on their asses waiting to be saved from being horribly slice up to pieces.
Or you know, IT FUCKING DOESN'T!
It needs to be acknowledged in any way, yes, since it isn't even bloody implied.
And as I pointed out, it doesn't matter anyways since discerning physical appearances is not part of that skill.
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THOSE TWO THINGS DO NOT WORK TOGETHER!
For fucks sake. If Law's skill is based on the actual gamma knife, the one used to removal of tumors, then it doesn't lacerate the tissue, it bloody kills it! It's dead, Jim! YOU CANNOT FIX IT BY STITCHING IT!
Or you know, Oda is actually just using real-world stuff as inspiration and does his own spin on them rather than portraying them as realistic as possible?
This is the classic you nitpicking again for the hell of it. No more, no less.
"Yes, I'm only bones, but that's because I have an interest… in dieting."
-Gentleman Skeleton Brook
He can locate things, yes, but not their outwards appearance.
So you have countered my body build argument, true. Though I will point out that at no point is Law is shown to actually use Scan nor did he have any time too, since it happened in literaly seconds.
You can tell when it happens in the previous chapter. It's after Doflamingo shoots Law the first time, durin the pause when he starts ranting about Corazon's symbol on his back. After that Oda does a perfect job of not even showing any skin on Law until Luffy turns him over and Law has already switched back. You can't even see any hair. Whether you like how it played out or not, Oda executed it perfectly between both chapters.
I personally think Laws fruit is the most HAX fruit we've ever come across. Kuma has exceptions example he can only repel with his paws otherwise he can't repel sending people flying isn't bad but nothing like an instant defeat compared to Law.
what if he repelled someone's life force? I think it can be argued that it is within the power of his fruit. then bam hax.
@Nex:
You can tell when it happens in the previous chapter. It's after Doflamingo shoots Law the first time, durin the pause when he starts ranting about Corazon's symbol on his back. After that Oda does a perfect job of not even showing any skin on Law until Luffy turns him over and Law has already switched back. You can't even see any hair. Whether you like how it played out or not, Oda executed it perfectly between both chapters.
Right at a certain point law is facing AWAY from DD, Oda isn't sloppy like that and he drew that panel for the purpose of having us the audience not see the switch.
The panel of Doffy's "organs" is not super clear, but maybe he's creating new organs to substain the fight. Either that or filling up the missing parts of them.
@The:
True enough, but once again, Trebol would probably snipe them with his power. Stop the mount from flying, and it's no good. Also, he probably wouldn't be able to make good mounts for them in a good enough time. That bird was already struggling that one time.
Sure, you could throw out an explanation like that for them being unable to get there. hell, I'd love to see Trebol keeping an airborne Team usopp at bay with mad sniping, it'd give him some much needed credibility. Or Kanjurus drawings could fail during flight.
But whats really missing is them even making a token attempt to get there. They have a whole hour, people have been zipping across Dressrosa in less time than that, plus the birdcage is gonna force them there anyway. Them staying put and throwing up their hands in resignation is just so lame; its like if there were 4 other Giant Jacks leading up to the Maxim, but man they're like, such a hassle to climb. Might as well not bother.
Maybe if they'd left the damn plateau after Usopps sniping moment, or back when Riku had first suggested it they could've made some headway by now:ninja:
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I'll stop with my DF neuroses after this one.
@King:
Like I said, it's a variation. It is visually similar, but it has a different effect. Like those custom moves of the latest Smash Bros.
Also, what gradual destruction? I know it destroys one from the inside. We know Law's ability allows him to pierce through people without hurting them like Mes. One could see this as a combination of Mes and Countershock.
My problem is exactly with it being a different effect. It makes the moves non-comparable, it makes Laws moveset yet more uncohesive, cluttered, unfocused, ill defined. If Luffy busted out a "blue Hawk" that froze people, you couldn't excuse it with "its like Red Hawk, but a different effect". Well, maybe one could, but it would still make no sense in terms of Luffys defined ability.
By gradual destruction I was referring to Doflamingo very clearly not instantly dying after Law hits him, meaning that the organ destruction Law speaks of must be an ongoing thing.
Is Doula really just stitching his organs?
I was under the impression that he was replacing them (shit, if the dude can create entire clones with just strings, then that doesn't look improbable).
Or you know, Oda is actually just using real-world stuff as inspiration and does his own spin on them rather than portraying them as realistic as possible?
Because he outright stated that the gamma knife destroys internal organs?
There is a limit to suspension of disbelief.
This is the classic you nitpicking again for the hell of it. No more, no less.
I call it reading.
Saying that Luffy's attacks are all completly impractical since he loses kinetic energy by stretching is a nitpick.
And I don't nitpick for the hell of it.
I guess having 150 characters in this arc ended up backfiring in some ways. In the past, Oda was pretty cautious to create distractions or scenarios that justified the lack of intrusion to the final boss fight. Search the bomb, fight the marines swarming the bridge, Enel and Oz kicking the shit out of the entire crew. . .here, it was all left to "trust in Luffy", which is cool and everything, but once there's an island sized mince meat machine grinding the entire country, you better have some distractions that prevent people from, at least, trying to get to the heart of the problem, Doffy.
This time around it's even worse because of Fuji and Sabo. It seems Oda found a way to get Sabo out of the way (Burgess, I guess), props to him for that. But Fuji, right now, is forced to at least try to do something to save the citizens. Sensible thing to do would be try to crush Doffy, but if Oda's not down for that, at least show him trying to slow down the threads (though, gotta say. . . . . .1 hour time limit? Isn't it usually, like, 10 minutes? let's say, 15? But 1 friggin hour? Kinda slow moving, if you ask me).
As for Kanjuro's birds. . .they're supposed to be totally pitiful and malfunction, but I agree with Daz that showing it would be cool, or at least show Kanjuro saying "what, flying all the way till the palace? No way, they'd get tired midway through and we'd fall to our deaths".
Though there's still time for that. I guess not everyone knows what's exactly happening or at which rate it is happening. Sai, for example, didn't know what was going on and was like, man, what's that smoke?
