Official Dressrosa Thread

Russbuspower

Unlike Luffy whose been greatly hindered the whole time, I mean Oda has been playing Luffy for a sucker and WE all know that the only reason Luffy needed Law's help to land a hit was because Law didn't allow Luffy to act reckless like he always does and what about that "I cannot beat you because you're my friend line", Luffy a guy who punched Vivi for acting stupid but all this will be resolved as soon as the flashback ends anyway

Yeah that's basically the point I am trying to make here. Luffy will fight and beat doula with or without possible help from Sanji. Ussop is almost implying that Sanji, Law, and Luffy are of equal str and that is somewhat annoying to me

FrozenGlasses

Im hopping to Corazon's fans side. Good bye Sanji..its been fun but no one like you anymore.:ninja:

Bursting hot tea, keep slipping off the floor, and burning his coat with every cigar, all in the same panel when everyone is trying to be serious. Dofla will laugh so hard everytime he opens his photo album.

Byeee Sanji! Hope you enjoy being BM's cook as your new job!

Shadowgreed

@Russbuspower:

Yeah that's basically the point I am trying to make here. Luffy will fight and beat doula with or without possible help from Sanji. Ussop is almost implying that Sanji, Law, and Luffy are of equal str and that is somewhat annoying to me

I'm clueless about the bolded area, when did this happened?

RamistaR

I don't understand why Oda gives Doffy and Law so much screentime during Baby 5's flashback.

Gore

@Shadowgreed:

I don't know If you notice but Law was the one who saved the crew by doing what Sanji couldn't done, not did only Law save them he also told them what to do after he saved their asses and that's what truly saved, Sanji's effort only bought time that could have been covered by law's ability alone.

@DARK_RITUAL:

My main argument here is
If you say Sanji did badly against Doflamingo then that also applies to law and LUFFY because they are supposed to be stronger than Sanji but yet they hardly performed better than Sanji did against Doflamingo so far.

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Sanji Saved the crew and told them to escape and they would've ecaped while Dofla was busy trying to kill Sanji. So the right thing you should be saying is Law saved Sanji ass and not the crew.

The way i see it is this.

Law could not save the crew while Dofla reached there at the ship. He was beggin Dofla to spare them.

Sanji came in insert fight

This bought enough time for Law to get to Dofla and save Sanji.

Dofla was repetively trying to kill the crew. If Sanji had died there, the crew might have died. (But One piece). Its just like Luffy and Law vs DD. Law needed Sanji and Sanji needed Law.

Law saved Sanji and the threat of Dofla killing the crew and then defended it from Dofla.

Law protected the crew, saved the crew but only with Sanji buying time.

I also believe Luffy and Law are doing around as bad as Sanji did. But they are the slightly better because plot.Doflas still whoopin ass

Russbuspower

@Shadowgreed:

I'm clueless about the bolded area, when did this happened?

Nah DR said it my bad

DARK_RITUAL

@Russbuspower:

Nah DR said it my bad

I don't know what DR mean but if your talking about me then learn to quote people and please quote when I said whatever your talking about and quit being a wimp who goes around saying "this guy said and that guy said" if you not gonna quote when they said such things then stop talking out yo ass.

RamistaR

Yohohoho! How rude!
Don't you think that DR is a cute nickname ?

Shadowgreed

@Russbuspower:

Nah DR said it my bad

Ahhh, DR as Dark Ritual or as Dressrosa?

Vectorkov

@Shadowgreed:

Ahhh, DR as Dark Ritual or as Dressrosa?

Probably Dressroba

Sereques

I don't know why people argue obvious points, Sanji did badly, there is no shame in that. He didn't land a single hit and he was about to get two shotted. If you compare it to Luffy, maybe you have a point, but after flashback, Luffy will beat up Mingo and if there was a rematch, Sanji will do better also.

Ussop

@Sereques:

I don't know why people argue obvious points, Sanji did badly, there is no shame in that. He didn't land a single hit and he was about to get two shotted. If you compare it to Luffy, maybe you have a point, but after flashback, Luffy will beat up Mingo and if there was a rematch, Sanji will do better also.

Luffy only managed to land a hit in two fights with the help of Law. Point is, Sanji din't do worse then Luffy.

Even after the red hawk, Law made sure to calm the fans, the wound from red hawk was nothing.

@Skull:

People still expect Sanji to perform on par with Luffy and Zoro?
http://forums.arlongpark.net/customavatars/avatar63565_1.gif

Guess he made the monster trio for a reason and din't think about the monster duo.

Skull Knight

People still expect Sanji to perform on par with Luffy and Zoro?

monster trio

thinks there's a monster trio

Ussop

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RobZilla

Man, it's gonna be good when Sanji smacks around Pekoms or Tamago.

Average

Or both .

Skull Knight

It's gonna be even better when he won't.

RobZilla

Meh, it's the first opponent(s) that Sanji is likely to fight post-timeskip that isn't/aren't plot armoured since Wadatsumi.

Pekoms, with his bounty and DF already revealed, is the more likely of the two to be a nice kicking bag for Sanji when we next see them/ flashback to the events of the coast of Dressrosa.

DARK_RITUAL

@RamistaR:

Yohohoho! How rude!
Don't you think that DR is a cute nickname ?

When I read DR the "D" stands out too strongly and I have a dirty mind.

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@RobZilla:

Man, it's gonna be good when Sanji smacks around Pekoms or Tamago.

i prefer if Oda doesn't show the fight and just shows Big mom answering a den den mushi and asking if Tamago has captured CC. Then last page we see Sanji two shoes stepping on the face of Tamago and pekoms while Sanji is lighting his smoke with Big mom mini den den mushi by his side.

Ohhhhh shit will give goosebumps just like he did when Crocodile called to little garden and Sanji was the one who answered.

King Cannon

@DARK_RITUAL:

i prefer if Oda doesn't show the fight and just shows Big mom answering a den den mushi and asking if Tamago has captured CC. Then last page we see Sanji two shoes stepping on the face of Tamago and pekoms while Sanji is lighting his smoke with Big mom mini den den mushi by his side.

Ohhhhh shit will give goosebumps just like he did when Crocodile called to little garden and Sanji was the one who answered.

Luffy already did the "answer the big bad's call instead of subordinate" routine back at Fishman Island.

RamistaR

EEEEEEEh!? Do you guys actually see the possibility of Pekoms getting offscreaned ?

Admiral Issho

@RamistaR:

EEEEEEEh!? Do you guys actually see the possibility of Pekoms getting offscreaned ?

to rehype sanji why not?

RamistaR

@Admiral:

to rehype sanji why not?

But…but he is a lion turtle!

Admiral Issho

@RamistaR:

But…but he is a lion turtle!

two meals with one kick

Ussop

The thing is, even if tamago and pekoms are the only strong people on the ship, they can't be easy enough for sanji to solo them.

I have a theory that Sanjii will free CC and to help him out. They could even do a fusion, CC could form himself like a gas coat around Sanji. I call it Sanji clown( vegito name was taken).

Then there's also the boring option none wants to see that Law's crew will show up and help them out.

Tyrano

I honestly don't know what I want with Sanji's situation.
On one hand Pekomz and Tamago are awesome and I hope they're monstrously strong.
But on the other hand fans have been booing at Sanji for a while now and I think Oda knows that.

Light Bro

@Tyrano:

I honestly don't know what I want with Sanji's situation.
On one hand Pekomz and Tamago are awesome and I hope they're monstrously strong.
But on the other hand fans have been booing at Sanji for a while now and I think Oda knows that.

I may be disappointed with Sanji right now, but even more disappointed I'd be with Oda fodderising two relatively hyped characters for the sake of soothing a few fans.

DARK_RITUAL

@King:

Luffy already did the "answer the big bad's call instead of subordinate" routine back at Fishman Island.

don't forget back in first half of Grandline there was two big bad's call
1- Sanji and Mr 0 in little garden
2- Sanji and Crocdile Mr prince

Luffy has done the first part of introduction, now we wait the second part and it most be the same guy meaning Big mom will receive another call from Strawhats.

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@Light:

I may be disappointed with Sanji right now, but even more disappointed I'd be with Oda fodderising two relatively hyped characters for the sake of soothing a few fans.

Yeah two hyped characters that was labeled as Big mom "fighters" not "Commander" meaning Tamago and Pekoms are not even Big mom top dogs or commanders. If one of the M3 can't even handle a fighter from a yonko crew then the Strawhats should give up on New world.

By the way, only Pekoms got hyped and what was his hype? 300million bounty? Or owning Caribo?
Before you answer let me ask you another two question
1- What do you think Sanji right now based on his strength his bounty should be?(don't forget he hasn't shown us everything, just use the strength we've seen from him so far)
2- Do you think Sanji can one shot Caribo or not?

Light Bro

@DARK_RITUAL:

Yeah two hyped characters that was labeled as Big mom "fighters" not "Commander" meaning Tamago and Pekoms are not even Big mom top dogs or commanders. If one of the M3 can't even handle a fighter from a yonko crew then the Strawhats should give up on New world.

You're making a fair point with the fighter thing I forgot, but they've been introduced since Fishman Island. Regardless of how "strong" they're compared to Sanji, having them fodderised already would leave kindofa bad taste. It's not like fight to the death is the only way things can turn out here. Honestly I think it's still a bit too early for SHs to take on Yonkou.

By the way, only Pekoms got hyped and what was his hype? 300million bounty? Or owning Caribo?
Before you answer let me ask you another two question
1- What do you think Sanji right now based on his strength his bounty should be?(don't forget he hasn't shown us everything, just use the strength we've seen from him so far)

Don't even ask, because then we're gonna get to the "How strong Sanji is compared to Luffy and Zoro?" area! And I hate that area! :getlost:

But maybe it would be around few hundred million. Same as Pekoms or Luffy.

That said I wouldn't call a 300 million kitty a pushover.

2- Do you think Sanji can one shot Caribo or not?

A fool who relies only on his logia powers? Sure, but I don't think it's really relevant to wheter he can fight both Pekoms and Tamago.

DARK_RITUAL

@Light:

You're making a fair point with the fighter thing I forgot, but they've been introduced since Fishman Island. Regardless of how "strong" they're compared to Sanji, having them fodderised already would leave kindofa bad taste. It's not like fight to the death is the only way things can turn out here. Honestly I think it's still a bit too early for SHs to take on Yonkou.

I'm sure the Strawhats won't be getting another Timeskip to grow in strength meaning they will gain power from arcs till they face off a yonko and for this to happen the M3 should atleast right now be as strong as a yonko commander I'm not talking about the yonko's top 3 commanders.

Don't even ask, because then we're gonna get to the "How strong Sanji is compared to Luffy and Zoro?" area! And I hate that area! :getlost:

sorry I don't do that kinda talk or question.

But maybe it would be around few hundred million. Same as Pekoms or Luffy.

That said I wouldn't call a 300 million kitty a pushover.

Ok, Bellamy is 200 something million beri right? So how would he fair against Sanji? Well my point here is that you shouldn't think that Pekoms is that strong just because he has 300million bounty, right now there is someone worth 300million aswell on the Sunny ship (CC).

A fool who relies only on his logia powers? Sure, but I don't think it's really relevant to wheter he can fight both Pekoms and Tamago.

nobody is saying that Sanji will solo Tamago and Pekoms all by himself, I beleive Sanji can take care of any of them in one v one and CC or Brook can handle the other together. CC alone took down a 400million pirate, a VA, A cyborg and Robin don't underestimate people on the sunny team.

King Cannon

@DARK_RITUAL:

Yeah two hyped characters that was labeled as Big mom "fighters" not "Commander" meaning Tamago and Pekoms are not even Big mom top dogs or commanders. If one of the M3 can't even handle a fighter from a yonko crew then the Strawhats should give up on New world.

Killer from Kid's crew is also labeled as a fighter.

@DARK_RITUAL:

By the way, only Pekoms got hyped and what was his hype? 300million bounty? Or owning Caribo?
Before you answer let me ask you another two question
1- What do you think Sanji right now based on his strength his bounty should be?(don't forget he hasn't shown us everything, just use the strength we've seen from him so far)
2- Do you think Sanji can one shot Caribo or not?

Pekoms' hype comes from the fact that he is a 330 Million Head despite being only a fighter.

If he was just a Captain himself, it wouldn't be that impressive, but he's a subordinate. He also has an unnamed Zoan power.

By comparison, Hawkins, a Captain of the Worst Generation, has a lower bounty. And Killer, a fighter, is even lower. The only non-Captain with a higher bounty we've seen so far is Ace, who was once a Captain himself.

And Tamago is implied to be even higher.

Shadowgreed

@King:

Pekoms' hype comes from the fact that he is a 330 Million Head despite being only a fighter.

You can expect at least that much coming from a Yonkou crew member

DARK_RITUAL

@King:

Killer from Kid's crew is also labeled as a fighter.

ohh please show me this. If I wasn't mistaken killer was labeled as an acrobatic.
And kiddd isn't a yonko.

Pekoms' hype comes from the fact that he is a 330 Million Head despite being only a fighter.

If he was just a Captain himself, it wouldn't be that impressive, but he's a subordinate. He also has an unnamed Zoan power.

By comparison, Hawkins, a Captain of the Worst Generation, has a lower bounty. And Killer, a fighter, is even lower. The only non-Captain with a higher bounty we've seen so far is Ace, who was once a Captain himself.

And Tamago is implied to be even higher.

Sorry man I just don't see any hype from that at all… Bellamy is no captain and look at his bounty, Caribo brother isn't Capatin nor logia but look at his bounty.

But the main reason I don't see Pekoms bounty as hype in any way is because a rookie who recently joined Shanks crew had a bounty of 99million beri and he was a former captain(ROCKSTAR) but yet Shanks crew was laughing at him like he was a joke, in fact he became a messenger.

So
1- You don't know if Pekoms was a former captain who joined Big mom like rockstar did to Shanks.
2- if a yonko messenger has a bounty of 100million beri then I don't expect anything less from their fighters.

King Cannon

@DARK_RITUAL:

ohh please show me this. If I wasn't mistaken killer was labeled as an acrobatic.
And kiddd isn't a yonko.

No, he was called a fighter. Look up his introduction.

@DARK_RITUAL:

Sorry man I just don't see any hype from that at all… Bellamy is no captain and look at his bounty, Caribo brother isn't Capatin nor logia but look at his bounty.

But the main reason I don't see Pekoms bounty as hype in any way is because a rookie who recently joined Shanks crew had a bounty of 99million beri and he was a former captain(ROCKSTAR) but yet Shanks crew was laughing at him like he was a joke, in fact he became a messenger.

So
1- You don't know if Pekoms was a former captain who joined Big mom like rockstar did to Shanks.
2- if a yonko messenger has a bounty of 100million beri then I don't expect anything less from their fighters.

Pekoms and Tamago have a lot of stuff that make them plot-protected for now, such as unnamed abilities and non-revealed bounty for one of them.

And remember that Caribou did defeat a Yonkou crewmember in his cover story, so he's not that weak. If Pekoms can one-shot him as easily as Luffy could, then the difference of strength here is pretty small.

DARK_RITUAL

@King:

No, he was called a fighter. Look up his introduction.

Pekoms and Tamago have a lot of stuff that make them plot-protected for now, such as unnamed abilities and non-revealed bounty for one of them.

And remember that Caribou did defeat a Yonkou crewmember in his cover story, so he's not that weak. If Pekoms can one-shot him as easily as Luffy could, then the difference of strength here is pretty small.

I'm sure Sanji or Zoro can one shot Caribo. Well that yonko crew member doesn't seem to have haki.

King Cannon

@DARK_RITUAL:

I'm sure Sanji or Zoro can one shot Caribo. Well that yonko crew member doesn't seem to have haki.

When Oda dedicates 3-4 pages to a "fighter" just to make him tease his ability, show his bounty and oneshot a Logia (while uttering a ass-kicking one-liner), I do think he wants to hype him up.

Even more when that character has a partner that does nothing and is kept up as an even bigger mystery. It feels like Nappa and Vegeta.

Skadi

are we still supossed to care about bounties? to me they became meaningless (and/or ridiculously high) long ago

Ripcat

It would be really nice if we could just see the SH's fight a Yonkou, and the crew so we can power scale the bastards.

Shadowgreed

@Skadi:

are we still supossed to care about bounties? to me they became meaningless (and/or ridiculously high) long ago

We should only care about bounties when we don't have enough support for our claims.

juiceduphody3315

Well they can't really let ceasar fight. He has the potential to pwn everyone who doesn't know he can manipulate the oxygen around them…

Luffy's Fantolomeo

I hope Doffy's defeated this arc, since there's also Big Mom to take care of, remember? Her party is like in 3 or 2 days and she'll find a bomb in the treasures that Luffy sent her.

Ussop

@King:

When Oda dedicates 3-4 pages to a "fighter" just to make him tease his ability, show his bounty and oneshot a Logia (while uttering a ass-kicking one-liner), I do think he wants to hype him up.

You know how hype goes. A beats B to get hype, then C beats A to get even more hype.

Sanji just got out of the 2 years, got his defeats with Vergo and Doflamigo, it's time to show what he got from the two years.

Russbuspower

@DARK_RITUAL:

I don't know what DR mean but if your talking about me then learn to quote people and please quote when I said whatever your talking about and quit being a wimp who goes around saying "this guy said and that guy said" if you not gonna quote when they said such things then stop talking out yo ass.

Im a huge wimp sorry!!!!!

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@Shadowgreed:

Ahhh, DR as Dark Ritual or as Dressrosa?

4:20 bress. But yah Dark_Ritual, bress. -E.C.

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@Shadowgreed:

Ahhh, DR as Dark Ritual or as Dressrosa?

4:20 bress. But yah Dark_Ritual, bress. -E.C.

RobZilla

@DARK_RITUAL:

ohh please show me this. If I wasn't mistaken killer was labeled as an acrobatic.
And kiddd isn't a yonko.

You're mistaken.

Light Bro

@DARK_RITUAL:

I'm sure the Strawhats won't be getting another Timeskip to grow in strength meaning they will gain power from arcs till they face off a yonko and for this to happen the M3 should atleast right now be as strong as a yonko commander I'm not talking about the yonko's top 3 commanders.

I'm not saying anything about how well Sanji would fare against Tamago and Pekoms, but such hyped characters deserve a proper fight. Against Sanji or any other strawhat. And I can't see it happening just yet.

Ok, Bellamy is 200 something million beri right? So how would he fair against Sanji? Well my point here is that you shouldn't think that Pekoms is that strong just because he has 300million bounty, right now there is someone worth 300million aswell on the Sunny ship (CC).

Don't forget that bounties represent how badly Government wants the guy in question dead, not strength. Caesar got such a high bounty because he's an insane scientist specialiced in mass destruction weapons, not because he's a particularly powerful fighter. He managed to defeat Luffy and co. once only because they didn't know enough of his powers. I wouldn't call them completely reliable measurement of strength. They just give some vague idea about how competent fighter the guy in question is. And that's why I'm only saying that Pekoms isn't a pushover and nothing else.

DARK_RITUAL

@RobZilla:

You're mistaken.

[qimg]http://s29.postimg.org/49ttjiqfb/killer_Intro.png[/qimg]

no I'm not mistaken lol I don't forget things that easily. It just depends on the translation you read.

Anyways here is killer introduction box after Timeskip

"Combatant" not fighter and they completely have different meanings.

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@King:

When Oda dedicates 3-4 pages to a "fighter" just to make him tease his ability, show his bounty and oneshot a Logia (while uttering a ass-kicking one-liner), I do think he wants to hype him up.

Even more when that character has a partner that does nothing and is kept up as an even bigger mystery. It feels like Nappa and Vegeta.

Yeah the same way he hyped Caribo and later turned him into a joke? I can name more characters Oda has hyped then turned into a joke.

ArmamentHero

Combatant - a person or nation engaged in fighting during a war.
Killer - a person, animal, or thing that kills.
It's kind of funny how they do have a different definition, but in a lot of wars, fighters do kill.

King Cannon

@DARK_RITUAL:

no I'm not mistaken lol I don't forget things that easily. It just depends on the translation you read.

Anyways here is killer introduction box after Timeskip
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8mtlhGlKg1rp3ji5.png
"Combatant" not fighter and they completely have different meanings.

No, you are mistaken. Killer was never referred as an acrobat.

Are you seriously arguing that "fighter" and "combatant" are two different things?

Stop being so arrogant. It's making you do stupid things.

@DARK_RITUAL:

Yeah the same way he hyped Caribo and later turned him into a joke? I can name more characters Oda has hyped then turned into a joke.

You mean like a Yonkou fighter who was clearly show to be several levels above that joke you speak of?

Also, how do you know Big Mom have commanders? What if her strong crew members are all just "fighters"?

Have we ever seen somebody introduced as "Commander" in the storyline besides a Whitebeard crewmember? What if this was only a thing exclusive to Whitebeard's crew?

RobZilla

@King:

Are you seriously arguing that "fighter" and "combatant" are two different things?

Funnily enough I've yet to see "Acrobatic" in any translation pertaining to Killer's role.

He just doesn't want to concede this one lol

Tangaroa

@DARK_RITUAL:

no I'm not mistaken lol I don't forget things that easily. It just depends on the translation you read.

Anyways here is killer introduction box after Timeskip
[qimg]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8mtlhGlKg1rp3ji5.png[/qimg]
"Combatant" not fighter and they completely have different meanings.

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Yeah the same way he hyped Caribo and later turned him into a joke? I can name more characters Oda has hyped then turned into a joke.

But it was a good joke.
Somehow Caribou has become a fave of mine and yet I see no problem with how unprepared Oda has shown him to be.
I think in small part Oda sends up all these shonen characters that come in, announce their rep and get trounced without an ounce of humour or perspective.

Stii, the best hype joke ever has got to be King from One Punch Man.