Bart Simpson Thread XI: The Movie - The Manga Adaption - The Animation
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oh thank god, finally
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Whoa, thread split.
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Fuck it… Readin this New Era shit... I hope Kishi won't do some Part 3 shit with the same story repeaten once again...
But he will milk it... If not with a manga, than with movies telling the story
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Well I dunno what do think,
If he ends the manga without Naruto being Hokage... It will be strange.... It would be like Luffy not becoming PK but Law instead
If he will make it in the movie... It will be strange... But I for god's sake do not want a part 3. Part 2 was already shit enough...
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Naruto has it's own thread again! A quick retrospective:
It's really sad where the manga is right now compared to the beauty of stuff like the Chunnin Exam. Ugh. I can't even believe that the manga is written by the same person. Remember when there was actual characterization? Mystery? Exciting, clever battles that weren't drawn out for 50 chapters? Any world-building what-so-ever? Good villains?
Do you remember when Naruto had actual ninjas?
I won't even go in to what the manga is now. Kugaya and Sasuke have managed to sum up part 2 quite nicely. But it used to be good! It used to be good! And because of that I will still probably tear up a bit at the end.
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Naruto has it's own thread again! A quick retrospective:
It's really sad where the manga is right now compared to the beauty of stuff like the Chunnin Exam. Ugh. I can't even believe that the manga is written by the same person. Remember when there was actual characterization? Mystery? Exciting, clever battles that weren't drawn out for 50 chapters? Any world-building what-so-ever? Good villains?
Do you remember when Naruto had actual ninjas?
I won't even go in to what the manga is now. Kugaya and Sasuke have managed to sum up part 2 quite nicely. But it used to be good! It used to be good! And because of that I will still probably tear up a bit at the end.
Rock Lee vs Gaara was so amazing… Same for all other characters who got love... Now it is just Milli Vanilli and some super strange zombie shit.
Just look
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Naruto has it's own thread again! A quick retrospective:
It's really sad where the manga is right now compared to the beauty of stuff like the Chunnin Exam. Ugh. I can't even believe that the manga is written by the same person. Remember when there was actual characterization? Mystery? Exciting, clever battles that weren't drawn out for 50 chapters? Any world-building what-so-ever? Good villains?
Do you remember when Naruto had actual ninjas?
I won't even go in to what the manga is now. Kugaya and Sasuke have managed to sum up part 2 quite nicely. But it used to be good! It used to be good! And because of that I will still probably tear up a bit at the end.
You'll get over with it in no time. The amount of bad stuff far surpasses the good. The series started going downhill after the Chuuning Exam, you could tell with the artstyle turning more sketchy and less detailed, until it came a point where you could barely tell what was going on in a single panel. Until the last arc before the timeskip it was doing fine, more or less.
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You'll get over with it in no time. The amount of bad stuff far surpasses the good. The series started going downhill after the Chuuning Exam, you could really in the art turning more sketchy and less detailed, until it came a point where you could barely tell what was going on in a single panel.
It's true. I've been over Naruto for years (there's better stuff out there than Shonen after all, and much better Shonen to be had as well) but seeing a long-running manga end…well I can't help but look back onto it's good parts and feel a little nostalgic.
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Dunno, I've not read anything Bleach related since the infamous Fullbringer arc. And I'm saying 3rd because with Naruto ending it will likely be placed alongside One Piece and Toriko whenever Shueisha releases one of those covers featuring every series main character. I can only hope some of the best we have today, like Assassination Classroom or Shokugeki Soma, take over the 3rd place within the popularity rankings instead.
Bleach lost the 3rd place years ago, to Toriko and then just kept falling down, the big 3 for a while were Toriko One Piece and Naruto an the Assassination Classroom came out and has been on top most of the time I believe.
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Naruto Part 1 was the real story. Naruto Part 2 is like the matrix sequels… we're not really sure if it should be counted as canonical.
I'm prefectly fine with believing Naruto ended with him leaving to go train with Jiraiya, hoping to some day save his friend and become Hokage.
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I still have my dream to save the manga… OK Naruto fucked it up with hearing all the crap of Sasuke again...
But maybe he will simply OHKO him with the biggest Rasengan in da face in history and after it he will say...
STFU finally. We had enough of your crap!!! Fights end next chapter… And we still have 4 chapter for actually some important stuff instead of that silly fight filled with flashbacks, sob stories and TnJ at the end
Do it Luffy style Naruto!
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I split my naruto into two sections - Pre-sasuke-in-a-jar and Post-sasuke-in-a-jar
I haven't read any chapter from the latter more then once, or ever seen it animated. If naruto ended at chapter 171 it would have been a great manga
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Well, this feels strange, suddenly having the end written out.
I'll give Naruto the respect it deserves though. It is what really got me into manga, it was the first manga I followed actively and without it I would've never even tried One Piece. And it had some genuinely good moments early on. Such a damn shame it had to turn into what it is now.
I guess it also leads up to the ultimate question: Out of Bleach and Naruto, which one was the worst?
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@Zar:
Well, this feels strange, suddenly having the end written out.
I'll give Naruto the respect it deserves though. It is what really got me into manga, it was the first manga I followed actively and without it I would've never even tried One Piece. And it had some genuinely good moments early on. Such a damn shame it had to turn into what it is now.
I guess it also leads up to the ultimate question: Out of Bleach and Naruto, which one was the worst?
Bleach
Naruto is the bigger disappointment though, because it was once a great series.
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Oh wow, it's actually ending.
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Can we end the thread with Fat Naruto again? Or something different….yeah, something truly memorable to mark this occasion.
Threads aren't usually closed or ended when a manga finishes, right? They just stay open for people who wants to discuss anything related like OVAs, anime adaptions, past chapters and possibly other works by the author. Unless the mods close this thread and make a new one just for the post-Naruto discussion or for some reason reopen an old one.
Actually, I can see them reopening the one that just closed.
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Gundam doesn't count, as it's anime original to begin. Pretty sure he means a different media, like a movie to end a manga, or an anime series to end a novel. That is not very common indeed.
Gundam doesn't count, as it's anime original to begin. Pretty sure he means a different media, like a movie to end a manga, or an anime series to end a novel. That is not very common indeed.
Oh.
So it has to be from an earlier source (manga, novel, visual novel) which then adapts to a series then a movie as a sequel?
Then in that case, from what I remember seeing.
Definitely:
Initial D Third Stage
Card Captor Sakura Movie 2
Higashi no Eden Movies
Steins Gate Movie
K-ON! MovieQuestionable:
Ranma 1/2 which spans to OVAs, Special and Movie
Same for Slayers, more or less
Ah! My Goddess but it was an OVA then a Movie
Major Movie, it's a sequel for season 1 but it was released after season 3 or 4It's definitely a lot less but it's not that rare.
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You know I'm kind glad the threads are separated now considering I usually didn't understand about half the thread considering I don't read bleach.
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You know I'm kind glad the threads are separated now considering I usually didn't understand about half the thread considering I don't read bleach.
Nobody reads bleach, we just admire the background art
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Nobody reads bleach, we just admire the background art
Those parts I usually understand even though I never read it.:ninja:
(I did see part of the anime until the bantou arc). -
Also, a bit unusual for them to announce the end of a WSJ manga, but I guess they would considering how big Naruto is.
I assume because of the movie tie in, that this has been extensively planned for some time.
So unlike Dragonball's "Next week, a big announcement!", this actually gets some forewarning.
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Oh.
So it has to be from an earlier source (manga, novel, visual novel) which then adapts to a series then a movie as a sequel?
Then in that case, from what I remember seeing.
Definitely:
Initial D Third Stage
Card Captor Sakura Movie 2
Higashi no Eden Movies
Steins Gate Movie
K-ON! MovieQuestionable:
Ranma 1/2 which spans to OVAs, Special and Movie
Same for Slayers, more or less
Ah! My Goddess but it was an OVA then a Movie
Major Movie, it's a sequel for season 1 but it was released after season 3 or 4It's definitely a lot less but it's not that rare.
Thanks, this is more to what I'm getting at (and thanks Robby for Evangelion).
The movie timing was definitely planned to accommodate the manga, so much so that I gotta wonder if Kishimoto actually forcefully extended the story to shorten the distance between the manga's ending and the movie.
I'd be very surprised though if the anime/time skip is purely an anime creation and the manga doesn't jump forward in a similar time frame, even if the movie's non canon.
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I felt… weird upond reading it. I asked for it to end so much, but now it is official...
I hope next chapter already starts some years ahead and the whole find remains offscreen.
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wait,it is official that it will end in 5 chapters?
EDIT: seems like it…but 5 chapters means it will end at 699..odd choice
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Maybe they throw in a chapter 700 as the epilogue in the last jump issue with naruto.
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This is the greatest day in manga history for some time.
The abomination is finally ending.
Thank the blessed Buddha.
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wait,it is official that it will end in 5 chapters?
EDIT: seems like it…but 5 chapters means it will end at 699..odd choice
Well Kishi made a lot of odd choices… But he and Obito are the coolest guys
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Say what you want about Naruto, but to me its special and always will be. If it weren't for the Naruto series, I'd not be as into mangas and animes as I am. I got so many I've watched and want to watch and its all thanks to Naruto getting me into the whole thing. The cast, the story, the world, its all excellent in my opinion. I know a lot like to bash it relentlessly and sure, there's been some questionable things about it over the years, but for me its always held a place in my heart and will continue to do so.
I remember reading it each month in Shonen Jump when I was a young teen (I'm 25 now). Because I enjoyed it so much I also began reading One Piece, Hikaru No Go, Yuyu Hakusho, Shaman King, and Dragon Ball Z each month in Shonen Jump. I did end my SJ subscription after a few years because so many of the mangas left the big books and focused on their own individual releases but even so I knew about the series because Naruto got me so into the manga scene.
I've known for years that it was close to the end with this whole war thing. I mean, how do you top a world war in terms of excitement and drama? You don't. I knew this was going to be the end but even so its still sad knowing its so close. I'll miss it so much. I can only hope that the finale is amazing and that it goes out with a bang. I do want this final Naruto vs. Sasuke fight to be the best fight ever.
I know they get a lot of hate but honestly Sasuke and Sakura have always been my top 2 favorite characters. I just like them both so much.
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Maybe they throw in a chapter 700 as the epilogue in the last jump issue with naruto.
Or maybe ch. 700 will be a special given away to moviegoers.
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I just heard the Good news! Naruto Is coming to an end.
But last weeks chapter was pretty good. Most of the dialogue was really great during the first few pages of the chapter then it was all downhill after the whole "Sasuke - I'm going to sever the past" …more Itachi was a God/the Greatest (was hella boring but I liked Sasuke likening him to his idea of Hokage). So it was a decent chapter that could have been good, maybe even great but it fell a little flat
ps. I would not recommend losing/going without Primary and Secondary sources of internet for over a month. It has killed me
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Just a post so that I'm subscribed to the thread.
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So,\how\people\from\the\NF\reacting\from\this\news?
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Guys, now I know why it's ending at 699. You can arrange the three numbers to look like the sharingan symbol, dun dun dun….
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I know they get a lot of hate but honestly Sasuke and Sakura have always been my top 2 favorite characters. I just like them both so much.
I guess everyone's opinions are subjective.
I could buy Sasuke maybe, but Sakura? Wtf?
I prefer Gatou's goons over her. Or those water ninja twins that attacked team 7 when they were on the way to the bridge. Or anyone who ever appeared.
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Guys, now I know why it's ending at 699. You can arrange the three numbers to look like the sharingan symbol, dun dun dun….
Or if you squint your eyes, it's a sex joke about threesomes
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I guess everyone's opinions are subjective.
I could buy Sasuke maybe, but Sakura? Wtf?
I prefer Gatou's goons over her. Or those water ninja twins that attacked team 7 when they were on the way to the bridge. Or anyone who ever appeared.
Even Karin ?
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Wha… Karin is awesome!
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Karin… was a cool guy.
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Oh yeah, she's pretty cool. I mean, the fans pair her up with Hitsugaya too much, but she'd be a cooler protagonist than her brother and….
wait.
we're not talking about this Karin?
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Even Karin ?
Maybe. That character deserved so much more. Well, most of them did. Women especially.
I'm hoping Kishi goes out more before he starts his next work.
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Cool trivia:
We online readers got the first chapter of the war, chapter 515 - The Beginning of the Great War, at November 5 of 2010. We will get the final chapter of Naruto and the war, if it comes Thursday, in November 6 of 2014.
This arc, or saga if you want to call it that way, took exactly 4 years, 25% of all of Naruto story and around the same volumes as Death Note, Yu Yu Hakusho and Dr. Slump!–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Maybe. That character deserved so much more. Well, most of them did. Women especially.
I'm hoping Kishi goes out more before he starts his next work.
He has a wife and children!
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Actually, come to think of it, with only 5 chapters remaining and Naruto vs. Sasuke poised to take up a small chunk of it, should we start taking bets one which characters get completely forgotten without being seen again?
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I split my naruto into two sections - Pre-sasuke-in-a-jar and Post-sasuke-in-a-jar
This is the accurate description.
Saying Naruto only started to suck with Part 2 is nonsense. -
He has a wife and children!
You mean he should know about how women feel and behave or he doesn't have time because he has a wife and kids?
I knew about that, anyway. Just not sure how to explain his women characters.
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@Monkey:
This is the accurate description.
Saying Naruto only started to suck with Part 2 is nonsense.True, but it's a different level of suckage. Retrieve Sasuke had fights people fondly remember, 2 characters saw their arcs completed in a memorable way should they had stayed dead (Choji and Neji), and things like "understandable panels", "rational fight choreography" or "secondary characters do something other than cheer on Naruto" were the norm instead of the exception, and so on.
Stupid logic, stupid character behaviour, stupid motivations and more started kicking in full strength back then (and, looking back at it, the Find Tsunade arc wasn't that good to be honest. . .), and it's the beginning of the end for the manga. . .but just try to read a random war chapter. A random one. I bet you'll find abysmal writing, awful art, terrible fights, retcons, cast mistreatment, a random villain appearing out of another villain's ass (it happened, for real) or, if you're lucky, ALL OF THE ABOVE AT THE SAME TIME.
Yes, it's indeed a different level of suckage altogether.
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Actually, come to think of it, with only 5 chapters remaining and Naruto vs. Sasuke poised to take up a small chunk of it, should we start taking bets one which characters get completely forgotten without being seen again?
I'm guessing 4-4.5 chapters dedicated to their fight, and either 1-0.5 chapters dedicated to an epilogue.
Characters to be forgotten? Pretty much everyone not in Team 7 seeing how they were all fodder during the war.
Especially Ten Ten. Fucking useless Ten Ten.
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I think the worst part of this is that it means that Kaguya's 12 chapter long time wasting will be longer than Naruto vs Sasuke, something hyped up since…forever.
Was she just filler? She sure felt like it!
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You mean he should know about how women feel and behave or he doesn't have time because he has a wife and kids?
I knew about that, anyway. Just not sure how to explain his women characters.
You implied that he needed to go out more to understand women better. Well he has a wife, he should at least understand them a little, at least that they aren't like Sakura and Karin.
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I actually think there is a chance we are not going to see this fight. The way the last chapter ended I could see Kishimoto following it with a "X years later…"
Although having 5 chapters showing the kids after the new timeskip would probably diminish the appeal of "Naruto: The Last".
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You implied that he needed to go out more to understand women better. Well he has a wife, he should at least understand them a little, at least that they aren't like Sakura and Karin.
Well, understanding one woman does not equal understanding women. Of course, no man will ever understand women, but maybe meeting other women beside his wife would teach him how to make them likeable characters, lol.
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I'm guessing 4-4.5 chapters dedicated to their fight, and either 1-0.5 chapters dedicated to an epilogue.
Characters to be forgotten? Pretty much everyone not in Team 7 seeing how they were all fodder during the war.
Especially Ten Ten. Fucking useless Ten Ten.
My prediction is that for non-team 7 folk, we will get anywhere from 0-1 panels of epilogue. Smart money points closer to 0 (with fractional values referring to shared panel space).