So Van Auger had observation haki all along and probably armamant haki as well to make the bullets fly all that great distant.
Or he was just a really good sniper with a powerful rifle
So Van Auger had observation haki all along and probably armamant haki as well to make the bullets fly all that great distant.
Or he was just a really good sniper with a powerful rifle
The funniest part is Usopp lied about it being his plan before.
But it became truth! He planned it this time!
Add that to lies that became truths for Usopp.
Or he was just a really good sniper with a powerful rifle
yes i think auger have pwerful rifle and very good eyeing and now he must be have haki
The chapter will be out from now on fridays? and there's no break next week right?
I wonder, is usopp a hint that all Shs will get haki? Still, I don't think they will have more then 1 type each. The Monster trio could have all 3 types.
Just when I thought "Oh, Viola could be a useful 'sight-assistent' for Usoppe, so she could make it into the Crew.", 2 Panels later Usoppe develops CoO. Oda, you genius troll!
king riku and co got captured by fodders? O.o
Yeah that was weird…. sadly Im guessing they didn't fight because they didn't want to hurt them. But damn, couldn't they just knock them out? That wouldn't kill them... And samurais just went with it without any objections? Maybe Oda didn't want to dwell into it, so it wouldn't interfiere with Usopp awesome moment.
Yeah that was weird…. sadly Im guessing they didn't fight because they didn't want to hurt them. But damn, couldn't they just knock them out? That wouldn't kill them... And samurais just went with it without any objections? Maybe Oda didn't want to dwell into it, so it wouldn't interfiere with Usopp awesome moment.
You serious…? You expect them to tangle with this group?
Not even Death itself can take a fish slap.
Darth, you should hold judgement until you learn more. (Just like Usopp/Sugar case).
Law said "わざわざ", meaning, "damn he deliberately used lead bullets…"
Which indicates to me that there's likely a story behind it, which I am guessing will be revealed in the flashback.
Doflamingo has many ways of killing the opponent, including string bullets, but he chose to shoot Law with bullets, perhaps to send a message of mockery? (relating to Law's past)
Reminds me of how Diamante tried to shoot Rebecca with a gun like he did with her mother, just to be an asshole.
Nobody cares of The poor Bellamy humiliated one more time At The feet of Doflamingo. ..
Darth, you should hold judgement until you learn more. (Just like Usopp/Sugar case).
Law said "わざわざ", meaning, "damn he deliberately used lead bullets…"
Which indicates to me that there's likely a story behind it, which I am guessing will be revealed in the flashback.Doflamingo has many ways of killing the opponent, including string bullets, but he chose to shoot Law with bullets, perhaps to send a message of mockery? (relating to Law's past)
Reminds me of how Diamante tried to shoot Rebecca with a gun like he did with her mother, just to be an asshole.
Or seastone vs. normal bullets stuff… Darth is impulsive, yes but so are we. It's just that he's prone to focusing on the negative side of things. That makes him kind of disturbing to the appreciate well society.
I feel like flashback's time will depend on of it's outcome. If Oda would like to give us some sympathy for Doffy, it's after the fights, or before the fights for revenge build-up.
It's great by the way Oda didn't took his time to introduce Haki to crewmates. Since Sanji is on pretty much in pressure to he might have some moments like this one. Luffy might have one, too. Hoping Oda won't heavily relay on at this last-moment discoveries.
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Nobody cares of The poor Bellamy humiliated one more time At The feet of Doflamingo. ..
I kind of do. To bash Doffy. "You're not like me, you're a goner."
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Being back to Doflamingo vs Luffy - Luffy doesnt kill enemies but to beat Doflamingo you need to either kill him, heavily handicap him or turn him into a Toy.
So who knows how Oda will use Cabbage.
Why not simply elephant-bombardmening him wouldn't do the job?
@Galaxy:
So you don't think character development is important, or what…?
Usopp getting Haki out of nowhere isn't exactly the best way of dealing with it. Especially when he already had quite an overwhelming time in the spotlight. What happened this chapter was just an annoying repetition of that and delay of the climax for no good reason at all.
There's always a downer. In this awesome chapter?
here is a list of things before the doflamingo fight:
-zoro fight
-franky fight
- kyros fight
-robin and company fight- law flashback
-maybe sabo vs fujitora
estimated time some 15-20 chapters more
I am counting in my signature ^^
Nobody cares of The poor Bellamy humiliated one more time At The feet of Doflamingo. ..
I do, he will have his Moment to shine "f*** you! Doffy!…and then Join Law and his Crew.
Darth, you should hold judgement until you learn more. (Just like Usopp/Sugar case).
Law said "わざわざ", meaning, "damn he deliberately used lead bullets…"
Which indicates to me that there's likely a story behind it, which I am guessing will be revealed in the flashback.Doflamingo has many ways of killing the opponent, including string bullets, but he chose to shoot Law with bullets, perhaps to send a message of mockery? (relating to Law's past)
Reminds me of how Diamante tried to shoot Rebecca with a gun like he did with her mother, just to be an asshole.
It's the lead part that's bothering me here.
There is an implication in there that lead is special. But why would it be? Was there ever any doubt that ordinary bullets in One Piece world are made of lead? I don't think so. Was there an implication that Doffy uses different bullets, usually? I don't think so either.
If Corazon was shot by Doflamingo, or shooting is in any way tied to Law's backstory, why put an emphasis on bullets being lead? Why not just say, "Damn, he deliberatly used bullets…?"
I dunno. It is a speculation, but I don't think I'm that far off to automaticaly shoot it down.
You serious…? You expect them to tangle with this group?
http://i.imgur.com/U8PUkMq.jpg
Not even Death itself can take a fish slap.
Few bombs would own them, huh Gokudera? And not kill them too! :P
I'm genuinely surprised at the minority of people who didn't like the chapter.
How can you be a One Piece fan and not like this chapter. :wassat:
I dunno either. I actually like it. Or rather, I liked Usopp's part. Beginning with Diamante being useless… again... Law bringing his broken powers into the play again and lead bullets kinda put me off.
As well as the fact that it is another rehash. This time of Enies Lobby combined with Thriller Bark.
Usopp getting Haki out of nowhere isn't exactly the best way of dealing with it.
not exactly, there was a little hint in sabaody when he "feels" the presence of his master on the island. Maybe the flashback on his training will help to process correctly this thing…
Usopp getting Haki out of nowhere isn't exactly the best way of dealing with it. Especially when he already had quite an overwhelming time in the spotlight. What happened this chapter was just an annoying repetition of that and delay of the climax for no good reason at all.
This "out of nowhere" is exactly how you get Haki in the first place. Coby also got
his Haki "out of nowhere". Yet it worked. We've been told (or at least hinted) that there are two ways to acquire - by experiencing severe trauma, or shock (Coby's case) or bringing it out via training. This might be speculation on my part, but Usopp has learned Haki unconsciously, by actually using a training process. I think it was Usopp's great concentration and the will (it's not called Haki (will) for no reason, right?) to help Luffy (find him, to be precise) triggered his awakening. I don't really see this as an "out of nowhere, because without Usopp learning Haki in this scene, it would seem dumb, illogical, and impossible (considering Usopp can't even see the target)
Few bombs would own them, huh Gokudera? And not kill them too! :P
I'm still off the mind that Doflamingo will succed in taking in all of the stars.
Darth, you should hold judgement until you learn more. (Just like Usopp/Sugar case).
Law said "わざわざ", meaning, "damn he deliberately used lead bullets…"
Which indicates to me that there's likely a story behind it, which I am guessing will be revealed in the flashback.Doflamingo has many ways of killing the opponent, including string bullets, but he chose to shoot Law with bullets, perhaps to send a message of mockery? (relating to Law's past)
Reminds me of how Diamante tried to shoot Rebecca with a gun like he did with her mother, just to be an asshole.
Good to know. Do you have raw that you could share possibly? :)
Also I think that it's pretty probable, like someone already said, that lead bullets got something to do with Corazon's death… or that it was mockery that Doffla didn't use sea stone bullets that would shut Law for good. Unless he is so hax he can do operation with seastone inside of him.
One thing I'm afraid of is that next chapter we find out that it was Viola's ability.
Nobody cares of The poor Bellamy humiliated one more time At The feet of Doflamingo. ..
I liked his redemption, but I don't care that much about character. Maybe Oda will make him "shine" a bit more, then I will care more. He might be used as string puppet to fight L/L :)
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@Lao:
This "out of nowhere" is exactly how you get Haki in the first place. Coby also got
his Haki "out of nowhere". Yet it worked. We've been told (or at least hinted) that there are two ways to acquire - by experiencing severe trauma, or shock (Coby's case) or bringing it out via training. This might be speculation on my part, but Usopp has learned Haki unconsciously, by actually using a training process. I think it was Usopp's great concentration and the will (it's not called Haki (will) for no reason, right?) to help Luffy (find him, to be precise) triggered his awakening. I don't really see this as an "out of nowhere, because without Usopp learning Haki in this scene, it would seem dumb, illogical, and impossible (considering Usopp can't even see the target)
Yeah exacly. I can't think of better natural way of him unlocking Haki. He had determination, he had training, he was good at what he does but needed to improve. It was natural and perfect in that circumstances.
I wonder if that mean, that every SH will unlock at least one haki type till the end of story. Like Franky figthing logia and unlocking CoA or Brook unlocking CoA to further increase his reaction time to be even more nimble fighter etc.
I dunno either. I actually like it. Or rather, I liked Usopp's part. Beginning with Diamante being useless… again... Law bringing his broken powers into the play again and lead bullets kinda put me off.
As well as the fact that it is another rehash. This time of Enies Lobby combined with Thriller Bark.
Diamante has always been useless, hasn't done squat outside of killing Becca's mother. So yeah let that asshole continue to be Useless now that I think about it. Useless to the grave, that guy's evil.
Law is gonna use his powers, that's a given…
How does Lead Bullets put anyone off?
I don't understand at all, Usopp finally got his Sniping moment though so that's cool.
Next chapter: God Usopp unlocking King's Haki to knock out fodders that captured them.
Chapter after that: God Usopp learns CoA and snipes Doffla and Trebol.
Chapter after that: God Usopp snipes God Enel from Moon becoming one and only God.
Chapter after that: God Usopp snipes Akainu and Blackbeard
Chapter after that: God Usopp becomes Pirate King
The end.
It's the lead part that's bothering me here.
There is an implication in there that lead is special. But why would it be? Was there ever any doubt that ordinary bullets in One Piece world are made of lead? I don't think so. Was there an implication that Doffy uses different bullets, usually? I don't think so either.
If Corazon was shot by Doflamingo, or shooting is in any way tied to Law's backstory, why put an emphasis on bullets being lead? Why not just say, "Damn, he deliberatly used bullets…?"
I dunno. It is a speculation, but I don't think I'm that far off to automaticaly shoot it down.
hence why we will wait and read FUTURE chapters. or you might as well stop reading it and cling to your speculations forever.
I'm still off the mind that Doflamingo will succed in taking in all of the stars.
That would be horrible in my mind. I feel like we are already passed "heroes lose, then tide change and heroes rise again". Sure, Luffy didn't lose yet, but he was punched by Doffla and kicked out of Palace. And Law was already defeated by Flamingo… hard. Seems to me, that it's perfect time for final confrontation without stretching it out.
I like Rebecca, I really do. But please Luffy don't use your future-nakama face with her. :getlost:
And Usopp becomes fourth strawhat to get haki!
Power levels a shit.
So Nami-Sanji doesn't count ?
@Lao:
One thing I'm afraid of is that next chapter we find out that it was Viola's ability.
Finally, they're gonna fight Doflamingo. So Law vs Trebol then. I really wish that Law could have given Kairos a leg before leaving him with Diamante. Well, I think somehow it will end up with Doflamingo locking himself and Luffy there, and Trebol and Law is going to be kicked outside. So it'll become Law-Kairos vs Trebol-Diamante, and Law can offer to heal Kairos's leg.
That would be horrible in my mind. I feel like we are already passed "heroes lose, then tide change and heroes rise again". Sure, Luffy didn't lose yet, but he was punched by Doffla and kicked out of Palace. And Law was already defeated by Flamingo… hard. Seems to me, that it's perfect time for final confrontation without stretching it out.
We were never at "Heroes lose" part of it to begin with. With the exception of Law, Straw Hats side succeded at everything they aimed at. Every goal Luffy has set out for himself, with exception of beating Doflamingo outright, has been his succes.
And we can't forget the public, which I feel like you are ignoring.
Oda has hinted at importance of local populace, with Viola, with Doflamingo, with Riku, with Fujitora. It is about their free will.
And they sided with Doflamingo.
After doing all of that, I feel like the conflict is not going to be resolved so easily as beating Doflamingo. Especially with anti-war/violence messages being thrown in the entire arc.
I like Rebecca, I really do. But please Luffy don't use your future-nakama face with her. :getlost:
Viola should take the spot instead, her devil fruit skills would be very useful.
I think Rebecca will stay behind on Dressrosa with her dad and King Riku to rebuild like Vivi did.
Viola should take the spot instead, her devil fruit skills would be very useful.
I think Rebecca will stay behind on Dressrosa with her dad and King Riku to rebuild like Vivi did.
Viola has the problem of being too useful.
Viola has the problem of being too useful.
Yeah I know what you mean Darth, still she isn't overpowered as her ability is passive in nature yet at the same time very tactical and strategic. If she joins along with Jimbei that would round out the Strawhats very nicely skills wise. Only thing missing then would be a Logia user but to be honest that isn't really necessary any more.
mangastream out
Yeah I know what you mean Darth, still she isn't overpowered as her ability is passive in nature yet at the same time very tactical and strategic. If she joins along with Jimbei that would round out the Strawhats very nicely skills wise. Only thing missing then would be a Logia user but to be honest that isn't really necessary any more.
I'd like to see logia user as sh :) That would be cool and make SHs look more impressive with all df types on their ship. And the fact that they aren't overpowered anymore only makes it a stronger possibility.
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We were never at "Heroes lose" part of it to begin with. With the exception of Law, Straw Hats side succeded at everything they aimed at. Every goal Luffy has set out for himself, with exception of beating Doflamingo outright, has been his succes.
And we can't forget the public, which I feel like you are ignoring.
Oda has hinted at importance of local populace, with Viola, with Doflamingo, with Riku, with Fujitora. It is about their free will.
And they sided with Doflamingo.
After doing all of that, I feel like the conflict is not going to be resolved so easily as beating Doflamingo. Especially with anti-war/violence messages being thrown in the entire arc.
Yeah Luffy didn't lose, I didn't mean he did, I just think it's too late for whole "heroes lose to strike back again", if it was to happen then Luffy should lose the first turn. I feel like it would drag the arc too much and it's not really usefull anymore.
But you brought good point about public. I might have been ignoring them a bit. Maybe there should be big moment of change of hearths? And they should realise they can't be listening to Doffla all the time but should rebel and help heroes (or at least not fight them).
But I just want final fight to begin. Maybe public will have that change of hearths when Luffy will struggle against Mingo? I like that scenario.
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And Usopp becomes fourth strawhat to get haki!
Power levels a shit.
Power levels aint shit. That must clearly mean that Usopp is 4th strongest SH :) Maybe even 3rd after he defeated Trebol :D
10/10 translation.
I hvn't teared up in a looong time reading one piece,Good job Usopp.
Yeah Luffy didn't lose, I didn't mean he did, I just think it's too late for whole "heroes lose to strike back again", if it was to happen then Luffy should lose the first turn. I feel like it would drag the arc too much and it's not really usefull anymore.
But you brought good point about public. I might have been ignoring them a bit. Maybe there should be big moment of change of hearths? And they should realise they can't be listening to Doffla all the time but should rebel and help heroes (or at least not fight them).
But I just want final fight to begin. Maybe public will have that change of hearths when Luffy will struggle against Mingo? I like that scenario.
Honestly? Not only it feels like a rehash of Alabasta (Luffy beats the bad guy and everything is fine), but also, I feel, stands in opposition to everything this arc has been building.
Not to mention they don't actually have any way to see him.
Or for that matter, makes the public of Dressrosa one the worse people in the course of the series.
Fucking Golgo 13 would applaud Ussop for that shot.
Jesus Christ this was fantastic.
See Oda? You focus on something for the majority of the chapter instead of hopping all over the place and something awesome happens.
Sugar fainting again was retarded but what Usopp did there sure was badass as fuck. Awesome shot worthy of a real sniper.
As well as the fact that it is another rehash. This time of Enies Lobby combined with Thriller Bark.
Wait. . .what?
I guess. . .TB because of the scare tactic? Ok. . .grasping at straws here, but I can concede that. . .but Ennies Lobby?? Why? Because Usopp sniped someone from a distance?
This scene played NOTHING like anything we saw on Ennies Lobby.
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Reading Mangastream, which I guess is closer to the original text, it's kinda funny Law admits that being carried by Luffy all this time was actually for the better cause he saved tons of stamina that way. He's actually GLAD he was a sack of potatoes all along. That's hilarious. And he'll miss Moocy's confortable back too, that's for certain.
http://i.imgur.com/N25vx2e.png
10/10 translation.
Hahaha, where's it from? I love this kind of so bad it's good translations
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Oh it's Mangastream okay lol
Honestly? Not only it feels like a rehash of Alabasta (Luffy beats the bad guy and everything is fine), but also, I feel, stands in opposition to everything this arc has been building.
Not to mention they don't actually have any way to see him.
Or for that matter, makes the public of Dressrosa one the worse people in the course of the series.
"Luffy beats the bad guy and everything is fine" - isn't that basically… most of arcs? :)
They don't have ways of seeing him now. When Luffy will start using g3 and destroying everything around, or Doffla flying around, then they might see them.