Ahaha, it's definitely new too. I love it.
It certainly is interesting xD What character is he impersonating?
Ahaha, it's definitely new too. I love it.
It certainly is interesting xD What character is he impersonating?
it's my way of supporting professor Jinbe and the curious village.
Though it's Conan! :silly:
It certainly is interesting xD What character is he impersonating?
No idea, but Jinbe's face is always hilarious. Just like in this weeks coverpage.
it's my way of supporting professor Jinbe and the curious village.
Though it's Conan! :silly:
Ooh I see. I was thinking about picking that up but seemed too big. I guess I shouldn't have that problem after OP, but it's kinda different. Maybe cause its not shonen xD
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No idea, but Jinbe's face is always hilarious. Just like in this weeks coverpage.
Yeah, that one definately is ;}
Well Luffy wasn't all that serious when he attacked the octopus, to me it looked really casual and simple
He was pretty pissed when he was attacking. And the octopus looked pretty vasual. Precedence for people keeping up with gear second exist anyway. So it wouldn't that surprising if the octopus could(not sure about Lucci).
Ooh I see. I was thinking about picking that up but seemed too big. I guess I shouldn't have that problem after OP, but it's kinda different. Maybe cause its not shonen xD
I can't tell you much about it either. I only saw the first two censored seasons when I was a kid. But it definitely is cult…for what it's worth.
It was a cutting attack, he used his power with his feet. The top half of the palace was cleanly cut.
Funny mingo can do with a kick that most swordsman in the series cant pull off.
Funny mingo can do with a kick that most swordsman in the series cant pull off.
Well new villian got to be hyped ;)
Anyway… Kaku did as much no?
People likes Luffy kicking the big bad's ass. And it would make Luffy appeared weak compared to Doffly.
Not really. Even if Luffy can take Doffy alone that doesn't automatically mean that he should. This is the Alliance saga after all. It wouldn't seem right if they didn't do it together. And we've never seen a final fight where it was a 2 on 1 match. I have no doubt that Oda will make an epic Luffy & Law tag team fight.
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It was a cutting attack, he used his power with his feet. The top half of the palace was cleanly cut.
No he didn't. It was just a really strong kick. The force of his leg swinging is what cut the building.
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Quick correction, I don't only think that Oda is saving his big attacks for later, I believe that he deliberately tried to achieve the following:
Show that Doflamingo is strong
Give Luffy his typical "first loss" against the arc's big bad
While allowing Luffy to save face (this is new!)And he could only achieve that by letting Luffy use very, very basic attacks - which honestly doesn't make sense considering how casually he used CoA pretty much everywhere else since the TS. Even for simple tasks like breaking the shields of some Fishman Island fodder soldiers.
His clashes with Dofla looked really clumsy, but they do tell me that Oda has a proper 1 vs. 1 in mind for later. Else he wouldn't need to leash Luffy like that.
@bold That's pretty much the problem with that line of thought.
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Also, Luffy used (Gear 2nd) Jet Gatling against Doflamingo, that's not a good enough "casual" attack for a first meeting?
If anything, that shows that an attack without Haki - more so, the attack that defeated Rob Lucci is nothing to Doflamingo.
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As for Hyouzou, he reacted to Jet Pistols -- Jet Pistols that was used to hit two other guys..
To be fair, he's still the best swordsman in Fishman Island and he still had his poison...
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If you guys recall, Zoro was cutting all his swords casually (the breath is part of him now) so it wouldn't matter if he reacted to his attacks - if he could.
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But I still think it's silly for anyone to compare Doflamingo to a drugged up, racist Fishman.
If you must compare him with someone, it has to be Crocodile and you know what Crocodile did? Beat Luffy twice (though it was pre-Gear 2nd but the connection is there, it was/is also the beginning of Paradise/New World and anyone who doesn't think Luffy won't get stronger after this is delusional).
Here's a little something that perfectly shows the connections.
People likes Luffy kicking the big bad's ass. And it would make Luffy appeared weak compared to Doffly.
Which is precisesly why after first Crocodile vs Luffy fight everyone went: This is bullshit, bad storytelling, Luffy should've win that fight… :ninja:
Since when Luffy losing is considered a bad development?
Late reply.
See where I'm getting at?
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No, not really? He didn't use hardening in his first 2 attacks against Hody, after that he went all out. Even against the fodder. But Doflamingo isn't Hody, and Luffy is fully aware of that.
And what has Caesar do to with it? If at all he is another example where Luffy used CoA hardening instead of a regular haki infused attack.
Could it be that you mix two different posts or so?
Oooh Doffy you really shouldn't have said "Law aside, Strawhat is just a common pirate". That is going to cost you dearly. :)
i think he's just reffering to how luffy is not a shichibukai unlike law, and thats why smoker shouldnt have let him go
It was a cutting attack, he used his power with his feet. The top half of the palace was cleanly cut.
Miss this .
Well compare to other attacks we saw no strings so i not certain on that .
Which is precisesly why after first Crocodile vs Luffy fight everyone went: This is bullshit, bad storytelling, Luffy should've win that fight…
Since when Luffy losing is considered a bad development?
We agree on something people should expect for luffy to still lose fights .
No, not really? He didn't use hardening in his first 2 attacks against Hody, after that he went all out. Even against the fodder. But Doflamingo isn't Hody, and Luffy is fully aware of that.
And what has Caesar do to with it? If at all he is another example where Luffy used CoA hardening instead of a regular haki infused attack.
Could it be that you mix two different posts or so?
I don't think luffy used hardening the first time he fight CC .
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@bold That's pretty much the problem with that line of thought.
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Also, Luffy used (Gear 2nd) Jet Gatling against Doflamingo, that's not a good enough "casual" attack for a first meeting?
If anything, that shows that an attack without Haki - more so, the attack that defeated Rob Lucci is nothing to Doflamingo.
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If you guys recall, Zoro was cutting all his swords casually (the breath is part of him now) so it wouldn't matter if he reacted to his attacks - if he could.
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But I still think it's silly for anyone to compare Doflamingo to a drugged up, racist Fishman.
If you must compare him with someone, it has to be Crocodile and you know what Crocodile did? Beat Luffy twice (though it was pre-Gear 2nd but the connection is there, it was/is also the beginning of Paradise/New World and anyone who doesn't think Luffy won't get stronger after this is delusional).Here's a little something that perfectly shows the connections.
Did you just prove that Zoro is stronger than Luffy with evidence? :D jk :)
And yeah I think we'll see some similarities with fight vs Crocoboy. At time, thought to be completely out of his league and he owned Luffy twice. Except he can't be defeated anymore I think. He had one skirmish before and it's time to finish the deal. Maybe it will be more like vs Lucci then. One fight in which Luffy looked bad/got owned and then normal blown out fight.
I don't think luffy used hardening the first time he fight CC .
It was the first attack he used against Caesar if you don't count the hug. Coa hardened Gomu Gomu no Bell (one of his early finishing moves)
Chapter 671 - The gas gas fruit.
I can't tell you much about it either. I only saw the first two censored seasons when I was a kid. But it definitely is cult…for what it's worth.
Conan in Japan is really popular, how much you ask? The anime is more popular than One Piece anime and lately its been ranking around the top 3 every week.
I just read some chapters of the manga(some from the beginning and some much later), but is basically a group of detective cases a Sherlock Holmes, in reality the character Conan is a fan of Sherlock Holmes. It has an overarching story, but is only touched upon sometimes. Ah, I forgot to tell that it has some fantasy elements, like turning a teenager into a kid.
It was the first attack he used against Caesar if you don't count the hug. Coa hardened Gomu Gomu no Bell (one of his early finishing moves)
Chapter 671 - The gas gas fruit.
Ah yes i see but others look like normal attacks .
Funny enough i just went and check back the second fight with him and CC and he did used not hardening at all that fight .
EDIT i am not even sure what i trying to argue about, but i guess it matches ups with you saying he uses hardening more during the main fights. .
No, not really? He didn't use hardening in his first 2 attacks against Hody, after that he went all out. Even against the fodder. But Doflamingo isn't Hody, and Luffy is fully aware of that.
And what has Caesar do to with it? If at all he is another example where Luffy used CoA hardening instead of a regular haki infused attack.
Could it be that you mix two different posts or so?
Right.
That was actually my point.
Hody was drugged up, Luffy didn't use Haki until "Pretty tough guy, huh."
Also, Luffy was intending to use his armanent bell attack before the shield fodders came in.
Did you just prove that Zoro is stronger than Luffy with evidence? :D jk :)
Maybe, geez I hope no one takes it that way.. well to be safe, let's just say that attack isn't Haki imbued.
Conan in Japan is really popular, how much you ask? The anime is more popular than One Piece anime and lately its been ranking around the top 3 every week.
I just read some chapters of the manga(some from the beginning and some much later), but is basically a group of detective cases a Sherlock Holmes, in reality the character Conan is a fan of Sherlock Holmes. It has an overarching story, but is only touched upon sometimes. Ah, I forgot to tell that it has some fantasy elements, like turning a teenager into a kid.
As a lover of mysteries and someone who follows the series, I personally look forward more for the movies. Especially if it includes the Black Organization.
Thanks. Your avatar suits well your post now :D I could shop that but that would be beyond horrible. Maybe someone remembers my old shops ;)
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Thanks for reminding me, gov'na.
I remember I did an edit of the top picture…
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Thanks for reminding me, gov'na.
Hehe cool. Do you remember why I did mine? Luffy proposing on Nami?
Rebecca got lucky and she was not traumatize by Hakuba .
This is the second time she going to face Diamante who mind fuck her before .
But to answer the differences between these 2 situations, the question is how did Diamanté "traumatize her" ?
Answer: By killing her mother and then explicitly telling her about it in details. He'll she's still traumatized to ask for food because of that 1 experience. So unless Hakuba brought Rebecca's mom back to life just to kill her again, why in the world would anything he's done /or doing / or could do, or could equal the fact of what 'traumatizing thing' Diamanté did?
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LOL if you think Rebecca's dodge against Hakuba was pure luck,
It was pure reflexive ability. Unlike the other gladiators, she saw the attack coming and dodged it accordingly. Sabo (and thus Oda) himself even stated that it was not luck or pure chance.
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And Hakuba's blitz attack was much faster than Diamante's simple slice, so really there's no excuse as to why she couldn't dodge it.
Well there is the fact that pretty much every time we've seen Rebecca she's still looking at her opponent. So especially like against Hakuba, it can be attributed to both her great observational skills and CoO working in concert with each other. There are varying degrees to CoO haki and mastering it. No 1 said that she's necessarily mastered it either. Not to mention as with your other senses disruptions in concentration, emotional states, confusion, and weakness/ tiredness should be capable of still having an effect on the proficiency/ efficiency of her or any1's CoO usage.
Because beating a heavily-wounded Law is so impressive. It's like people forget that Law was handicapped in that fight.
And yes, Luffy is in another level. Even the chapter title points that out.
Yeah, never seen such another integral part of a situation be omitted so much as that 1. It really is like some mass specific
amnesia.
None of them were really direct opponents in the same way as Crocodile and Moriah were.
It could be argued that Luffy kind of surpassed Magellan as he recovered from what should have been a lethal dose of poison and in record time as well, which my now make him immune to it if he ever faces Magellan again.
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Not all of it, hell's judgment melts you down,
It's not poison.
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That's conceivably what haki is partly for; So just touching the untouchable ( Magellan, Akainu, Sugar, CC), isn't the automatic death sentence it should normally be.
Sanji and Jozu weren't caught by Doflamingo's no-brainer haxmove Parasite, no? I admit I should read the chapter again, but I always assumed that Doflamingo simply trapped them with strings. That's why there was no control involved, Sanji and Jozu were just not able to move.
Always thought of them as pre arranged strings as well. It also seems that Oars Jr. Was the same except having multiple or 1 really long connecting string, he just hung it higher, ( maybe on a loop with the clouds, or higher buildings at Marineford, w. e.), and made the string sharper so Oars own momentum would separate his leg.
He used COO against Smoker.
Not really seeing it as necessarily CoO, even looking at your later pics it seems more just DD's style of dodging.
As a lover of mysteries and someone who follows the series, I personally look forward more for the movies. Especially if it includes the Black Organization.
Why the mysteries seem better in the manga, and the a lot of the movies seem to only imply the Black Organization might be
involved but then go a different way, or just have them involved in an indirect way? Manga/ anime seems better for both your points?
Not really. Even if Luffy can take Doffy alone that doesn't automatically mean that he should. This is the Alliance saga after all. It wouldn't seem right if they didn't do it together. And we've never seen a final fight where it was a 2 on 1 match. I have no doubt that Oda will make an epic Luffy & Law tag team fight.
I said appeared. And if you struggle on a 2 vs 1 it's quite normal to believe you would loose in a 1 vs 1.
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Which is precisesly why after first Crocodile vs Luffy fight everyone went: This is bullshit, bad storytelling, Luffy should've win that fight… :ninja:
Since when Luffy losing is considered a bad development?
Did I write that comment recently?
He kicked the big bad's ass alone back then. And it was at a time when Shichibukai were scary guys that remind you of Mihawk raping Creek and Zoro. Now Luffy is supposedly not a rookie anymore. So yeah failing to kick a third Shichichibukai ass by himself will disappoint people after 2 years timeskip. You just have to see the hard time Sanji is having.
Is there a chapter this week?
Not really. Even if Luffy can take Doffy alone that doesn't automatically mean that he should. This is the Alliance saga after all. It wouldn't seem right if they didn't do it together. And we've never seen a final fight where it was a 2 on 1 match. I have no doubt that Oda will make an epic Luffy & Law tag team fight.
If Luffy gets help from Law, I don't see him struggling at all.
And if he does struggle, then it ends up making Doula look too strong instead.
Yeah I guess it's most likely a different move. In this case, there might be a limit that we will find out later.
Sarquiss was a relative fodder, but I think he also used parasite on a vice-admiral (first chapter with Doffy). Ma! It was like 8 years ago so I wouldn't mind if Oda changed the extent of Doffy's ability to save Bastille for Sabo.
He used it on Whitebeard commander.
Viz's version of chapter 757
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wow is there any other chapter?
If Luffy gets help from Law, I don't see him struggling at all.
And if he does struggle, then it ends up making Doula look too strong instead.
Well Don already beat law easy so even with Luffy it should still be a good fight for them.
Seriously, Law + Luffy would be acceptable if Doula Mongo was portrayed to be beyond their league and around Admiral level.
But he isn't. Kuzan didn't even have to move to make him go away, and Fujitora clearly intimidated him at the palace. The strongest character he managed to beat was Smoker.
Well Don already beat law easy so even with Luffy it should still be a good fight for them.
Again, it was a heavily-wounded Law (how do you guys keep forgetting this?). He had plenty of time to rest since then.
Really, the chapter title should have made it clear about who's going to solve this whole thing.
Well new villian got to be hyped ;)
Anyway… Kaku did as much no?
He had a giraffe fruit….He could do anything he wanted to in my book
Seriously, Law + Luffy would be acceptable if Doula Mongo was portrayed to be beyond their league and around Admiral level.
But he isn't. Kuzan didn't even have to move to make him go away, and Fujitora clearly intimidated him at the palace. The strongest character he managed to beat was Smoker.
Again, it was a heavily-wounded Law (how do you guys keep forgetting this?). He had plenty of time to rest since then.
Really, the chapter title should have made it clear about who's going to solve this whole thing.
I don't think Fujitora intimidated him that much when Don kick at him and did not care
We will see but luffy being the trump card don't mean it going to be easy .
I don't think Fujitora intimidated him that much when Don kick at him and did not care
We will see but luffy being the trump card don't mean it going to be easy .
If he didn't care at all, he wouldn't have tried the kick in the first place.
If he didn't care at all, he wouldn't have tried the kick in the first place.
Fujitora was being annoying, talking about getting rid of the warlord system and this after don just when threw ton of trouble to keep his title .
Someone being annoyed by someone it's not the same as them being intimidated .
When we getting the one pic spoiler from Ishui or however it's spelled?
Joined the forum since 2007, surely you should know no "sp" talk here.
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No he didn't. It was just a really strong kick. The force of his leg swinging is what cut the building.
That cut will not be possible without his DF. It wasn't a kick FFS. He said so himself, "let me show you how to cut a man's head" If it was a kick, the building will crumble not clean cut.
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That cut will not be possible without his DF. It wasn't a kick FFS. He said so himself, "let me show you how to cut a man's head" If it was a kick, the building will crumble not clean cut.
Great piece of evidence for this was the attack that Doflamingo was going to use on Sanji. He had a long piece of string that went and cut through some buildings. Unless people are going to argue that he moved his fingers so fast, that the force was great enough to cut through a building. Makes the clash between Whitebeard and Shanks look like childes play.
That cut will not be possible without his DF. It wasn't a kick FFS. He said so himself, "let me show you how to cut a man's head" If it was a kick, the building will crumble not clean cut.
Obviously. I mean, how retarded would it be if someone were capable of cutting through a building simply by kicking really fast?
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That cut will not be possible without his DF. It wasn't a kick FFS. He said so himself, "let me show you how to cut a man's head" If it was a kick, the building will crumble not clean cut.
The move could just be like Rankyaku, Don does look to used his feet a fair amount when fighting .
Either way comapre to all the other times he use his DF this arc we did not see any signs of it .
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Great piece of evidence for this was the attack that Doflamingo was going to use on Sanji. He had a long piece of string that went and cut through some buildings. Unless people are going to argue that he moved his fingers so fast, that the force was great enough to cut through a building. Makes the clash between Whitebeard and Shanks look like childes play.
Still that move was crazy i mean look how far Don is from the buildings he hit .
Wonder if Oda mess up with distance again cause it look like Don was miles from dressrosa.
The move could just be like Rankyaku, Don does look to used his feet a fair amount when fighting .
Either way comapre to all the other times he use his DF this arc we did not see any signs of it ..
He didn't do a Rankyaku though, he brought his feet close to Kyros neck like a blade.
The move could just be like Rankyaku, Don does look to used his feet a fair amount when fighting .
Either way comapre to all the other times he use his DF this arc we did not see any signs of it .Still that move was crazy i mean look how far Don is from the buildings he hit .
Wonder if Oda mess up with distance again cause it look like Don was miles from dressrosa.
It did seem like he was really far away from Dressrosa. I believe at that time they were still on the Greenbit side of the bridge, so it would be a good distance.
He didn't do a Rankyaku though, he brought his feet close to Kyros neck like a blade.
For me it was more like Rankyaku than using his feet like a blade- whatever you mean.
Doflamingo was shown to do Geppou if I am not mistaken? Like it was suggested when he said that sky road has ended and was panting
So either he was using geppou for some time or by sky road he means something that is not yet explained to us and what Apoo used just before time skip here
For me it seemed like perhaps Doflamingo used some string based attack with his feet or most likely he simply he cut those buildings same way Lucci did cut some in the past.
No need for other options here I think.
For me it was more like Rankyaku than using his feet like a blade- whatever you mean.
Doflamingo was shown to do Geppou if I am not mistaken? Like it was suggested when he said that sky road has ended and was panting
http://img.batoto.net/comics/2013/01/30/o/read510938ffac91a/img000013.pngSo either he was using geppou for some time or by sky road he means something that is not yet explained to us and what Apoo used just before time skip here
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110828023352/onepiece/images/archive/1/1a/20110828104210!Scratchmen_Apoo_at_the_New_World.pngFor me it seemed like perhaps Doflamingo used some string based attack with his feet or most likely he simply he cut those buildings same way Lucci did cut some in the past.
No need for other options here I think.
Sky Road is a string-based move. It's essentially a path made of strings that are connected to clouds. Law confirmed that.
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Since when Luffy losing is considered a bad development?
Depends.
After a chapter title like Trump Card, I'm not really expecting a defeat here.
I've always took the scene about Dofy's kick being a string based attack rather than some CP9 type of move, guess I was wrong or not
Sky Road is a string-based move. It's essentially a path made of strings that are connected to clouds. Law confirmed that.
Well Law explained how Mingo moves in the sky but at same time Mingo said that Luffy-Law team is lucky that sky road ended - while he is huffing being tired.
So either cloud path has ended and he has to move differently like with Geppou or sky road is same thing that Apoo used to escape those boars on pic I posted.
Nor Law nor Doflamingo named Mingos string walking as "sky road" or they did and you can post a page to it? Chances are high for you to be right, there is also chance
though smaller that Oda can suprise us with explaining what sky road is. I am not arguing over Doflamingo using skill to walk/jump on strings attached to clouds, I am
only telling that there might be paths, bridges between islands that are invisible - Apoo using one before time skip and perhaps Doflamingo mentioning it as "sky road".
Sky road would be nice thing for DF users if its some kind of road made out of dense air or something - some weather phenomenon that people can meet only in
New World for example.
Well Law explained how Mingo moves in the sky but at same time Mingo said that Luffy-Law team is lucky that sky road ended - while he is huffing being tired.
So either cloud path has ended and he has to move differently like with Geppou or sky road is same thing that Apoo used to escape those boars on pic I posted.
Nor Law nor Doflamingo named Mingos string walking as "sky road" or they did and you can post a page to it? Chances are high for you to be right, there is also chance
though smaller that Oda can suprise us with explaining what sky road is. I am not arguing over Doflamingo using skill to walk/jump on strings attached to clouds, I am
only telling that there might be paths, bridges between islands that are invisible - Apoo using one before time skip and perhaps Doflamingo mentioning it as "sky road".Sky road would be nice thing for DF users if its some kind of road made out of dense air or something - some weather phenomenon that people can meet only in
New World for example.
It's putting 2 and 2 together. Law mentions Doula's ability to move through the sky through strings and clouds -> Doula moves through the sky while calling this a "Sky Road".
About the Sky Road ending, Law obviously did something to it, as the end of the road was coincidentally on the same path as the raft where Baby 5 and Buffalo's heads were.
It's putting 2 and 2 together. Law mentions Doula's ability to move through the sky through strings and clouds -> Doula moves through the sky while calling this a "Sky Road".
About the Sky Road ending, Law obviously did something to it, as the end of the road was coincidentally on the same path as the raft where Baby 5 and Buffalo's heads were.
But we see clouds all around on that panel I posted
your argument doesnt seem to contradict with possibility of some phenomena occuring in New World- Oda didnt put that panel of Apoo running on air before time skip for nothing. So dont cross out possibility too soon.
He didn't do a Rankyaku though, he brought his feet close to Kyros neck like a blade.
It was simply a kick so fast and powerful, the shockwave sliced through the three palace towers.
That's it.
You claim that it's not possible without his DF, but CP9 did it all the time.
Kalifa literally explains this.
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It was simply a kick so fast and powerful, the shockwave sliced through the three palace towers.
That's it.
You claim that it's not possible without his DF, but CP9 did it all the time.
Kalifa literally explains this.
I don't need lectures on Rankyaku. Mingo did not do Rankyaku, what happen in that panel was Mingo DF. If Luffy hadn't interfered, Mingo's feet would have cut off Kyros head at contact.
I don't need lectures on Rankyaku. Mingo did not do Rankyaku, what happen in that panel was Mingo DF. If Luffy hadn't interfered, Mingo's feet would have cut off Kyros head at contact.
Uh, I think you do need a lecture.
You have no proof of that being the result of his devil fruit. There's nothing, whatsoever, indicating that it was involved.
The explanation for what actually occurred is plain as day. You simply refuse to acknowledge it for whatever reason.
It's obvious Doflamingo infused his leg with conqueror haki