It would be sweet, like had Zoro could cut steel with his swords, that Sanji now "upgrades" to breaking steal or at least doing super damage to it
Chapter 414 "Sanji vs Jabura" Discussion
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About Ussop destroying Buster Call. He can and that is the kind of thing that will make ussop realize his importance. He left because he thought that he's just a burden on their ship and cant to anything. If he defeats the Buster Call, then he'll realize how important he can be to the crew. ALso i think only he or nami could defeat it. Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro are bad ass fighters, but they couldn't take out ships. Ussop and Nami could. PLUS the only reason Nami could is because of the weapon USSOP made for her. So if ussop does take on the buster call- he'll see how important he can be. Not that he is not important but taking on something that seems to be feared by ALL could definitly be a boost on his self-esteem.
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It would be sweet, like had Zoro could cut steel with his swords, that Sanji now "upgrades" to breaking steal or at least doing super damage to it
**I'm pretty sure Sanji can break steel by now. Luffy, Zoro and chopper could do it so why not sanji?
and I really combined will be enoughf to handle the buster call. Something else will happen.**
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Nice chapter. Ussop's gonna do something, Franky Family and Galley-La are free, and Sanji is moving faster then Soru but still needs to break tekkai.
I'm kinda hoping that Sanji has a unique way of breaking tekkai, like aside from just using a superstrong move. Maybe he tenderizes the metal and/or finds a new weakness in the tekkai technique.
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I haven't been this pleased with a chapter in a while. :happy: Awesomeness!
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What I'm hoping for is that we get some kind of flashback into sanji's training.
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Hey, I just noticed that Cocoro is carrying Choppers unconcious body…it seems that everyones' heading for the Gate of Justice! I can't wait to see what Oda has ind mind, and what everyone does once they reach the Luffy/Lucchi obstacle...
Edit: And Octogon, even though I admit it'd be Zoro vs. Mr. 1 all over again, I too hope for a small Sanji FB...
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Chopper can break steel? When? He couldn't even break Kumadori's Tekkai, without his strongest move. and Zoro has only cut steel once, in Arabasta, haven't seen him do it since then, except maybe T-Bones sword. And Luffy only broke steel with Gear 3, and Franky dented steel with his Coup de Vent.
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There's also the fact that as his haircut shows, Franky still have some cola left. Enough to take out Spandam hopefully.
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Chopper can break steel? When? He couldn't even break Kumadori's Tekkai
You're kind of contradicting yourself there…And Zoro has cut steel loads of times, though mostly it's been in the form of Iron. And Luffy in Gear one tore through Bluenos tekkai.
And I have no doubt that Sanji, who effortlessly kicked around several tonnes of metallic fish in the beginning of the series, can learn the same.
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Chopper can break steel? When? He couldn't even break Kumadori's Tekkai
Yeah, besides, Kumadori is a much weaker CP9 than Jyabura, with a tekkai probably a lot less efficient.
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I'm holding off on making any concrete predictions on what Usopp will do. Maybe he'll defeat Buster Call, maybe he won't. Saying he needs to beat Buster Call to raise his self-esteem sounds kind of silly, really. XD But I'm really happy with the way Oda is handling this. Much better then that previous alternative that everyone was angry it didn't happen because it makes sense and now I can really see where all this development is going.
Now about Franky following behind Luffy…I wonder how this is going to play out. I'm guessing Luffy will distract Lucci enough to let Franky get by and go after Robin, and Franky will take on Spandam and Funkfried. This would be cool because this means Luffy has to trust Franky. There might be some interesting dialogue between them before he lets him go. Then Luffy will really go all out on Lucci because he no longer is concerned with getting past him.
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Chopper can break steel? When? He couldn't even break Kumadori's Tekkai, without his strongest move. and Zoro has only cut steel once, in Arabasta, haven't seen him do it since then, except maybe T-Bones sword. And Luffy only broke steel with Gear 3, and Franky dented steel with his Coup de Vent.
**Yes chopper can break steel. We saw him easily make an imprint in the franky family armor while in arm point. And his monster form can most definatley do so.
Zoro cut steel then and he can do it now. He did it to Daz bonez while his guts were spilling out of his body. He cut the sea train in half. He cut T-Bone's swords.
And do you not remember Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Cannon? He made a huge hole in the destroyers armor. Plus the aqua laguna wave is evidence enoughf he has the power. and in normal form he was enoughf for blueno's tekkai.
Franky dented steel with an air attack. And he punched through it with his hammer fist.
And besides tekkai is supposed to just be as hard as iron. But the CP9 are so advanced that their tekkai is probaley harder than steel.**
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Nice fight! Sanji is doing some heavy duty fighting after a looooooooooong time and at the same time, we now know Ussop is going to be redeemed. I win all ways with this chapter ^_^ !!
Ussop might be able to take on a Buster Call by himself, but I doubt that's what would happen. I think he will delay/distract the ships long enough for the SHs to steal a BC ship for themselves and sail to Marine HQ. I mean, since the ships are coming from there, it would be easier to find the path to the HQ.
Or they might sail to Impel Down (a maximum security prison habouring the most dangerous criminals ever captured will always make for a good arc). But personally, I don't think the SHs at this point are strong enough to survive going through Impel Down. Apart from (what we can assume are) some of the strongest marines that might be there, they would definately have to contend with a few of the inmates, and fighting all those people might be too much for them. Plus it's submerged, so they have no way of getting there without being sunk, which would be fatal.
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I'm holding off on making any concrete predictions on what Usopp will do. Maybe he'll defeat Buster Call, maybe he won't. Saying he needs to beat Buster Call to raise his self-esteem sounds kind of silly, really. XD But I'm really happy with the way Oda is handling this. Much better then that previous alternative that everyone was angry it didn't happen because it makes sense and now I can really see where all this development is going.
Now about Franky following behind Luffy…I wonder how this is going to play out. I'm guessing Luffy will distract Lucci enough to let Franky get by and go after Robin, and Franky will take on Spandam and Funkfried. This would be cool because this means Luffy has to trust Franky. There might be some interesting dialogue between them before he lets him go. Then Luffy will really go all out on Lucci because he no longer is concerned with getting past him.
Yeah, I'm thinking that is when Franky might be asked to join the crew; because he seems to love the guys from the Mugiwara already from his dialogue in this and the Water 7 arc.
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Yeah, besides, Kumadori is a much weaker CP9 than Jyabura, with a tekkai probably a lot less efficient.
Aw, you're selling Chopper short here. He broke through "Tekkai Gou" with his strongest attack, and possibly with his other attacks before it (if my personal theroy this CP9 use tekkai without saying that word is right). That's the strongest tekkai technique, and probably stronger then Jyabura's normal tekkai at least.
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luffy is bleeding.. lucci ate him ^^
i still think people are underestimating spandfried, spanda is a freaking sociopath, as shitty as he is he puts himself on cp9 tier because of that sword.. maybe zoro can steal it.. tid be nifty
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Hopefully Zoro puts on his haramaki/bandana next chapter and get serious.
Usopp and Nami will do something good, their combination's always good, remember the time in Maxim , that was great laughter -
yeah, people are underestimating Spandam and the elephant.
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Also it seems people have neglected everyone's favorite navigator from the equation. Now, I don't think any one of us knows the full scope of abilities that the Perfect Clima Tact has, but perhaps Nami might have some ideas of her own on how to delay the Buster Call. Perhaps she create a large enough fog to envelop the island. And that's my ridiculous speculation quota for the day.
Perhaps it's bcos she had taken down Califa and she kind of shone during the battle, so as far as i'm concern, I am not expecting much from her. Besides it's usopp's turn to do sth great. Even when I am not a fan of his, I feel sorry for that guy. Sometimes I feel that Oda hasn't been fair to him. I hope I am proved wrong in this arc.
Chopper can break steel? When? He couldn't even break Kumadori's Tekkai, without his strongest move.
So what if he needs his strongest move to do so? He did it nonetheless, even when he's not one of the top fighters. The only SHs who have yet to do it are Nami and Usopp (Maybe Robin if you want to count her), not that it's necessary for them to do so.
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Even when I am not a fan of his, I feel sorry for that guy. Sometimes I feel that Oda hasn't been fair to him. I hope I am proved wrong in this arc.
He's been more than fair. In terms of character development and screentime in this arc, he has outshined everyone.
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He's been more than fair. In terms of character development and screentime in this arc, he has outshined everyone.
Uh… No. Seriously, just no. At least not for the moment as far as "character development" is concerned, and screentime is arguable, especially when that screentime consists at 90% of him being beaten to a pulp and humiliated.
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@Octogon:
What I'm hoping for is that we get some kind of flashback into sanji's training.
co-signing this desire.
Uh… No. Seriously, just no. At least not for the moment as far as "character development" is concerned, and screentime is arguable, especially when that screentime consists at 90% of him being beaten to a pulp and humiliated.
Cosmic understands that character development is not equal to strength or a showing of strength. Character development is about developing a character and making it less 2-D, in this case it was about Usopp realising who he is amongst his peers and the relationships with them. One of my problems with Usopp was that he never realised his place in the crew, always wanting to be captain and never beleiving in the unit that is the team. Now he seems to have grown past that.
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Cosmic understands that character development is not equal to strength or a showing of strength. Character development is about developing a character and making it less 2-D, in this case it was about Usopp realising who he is amongst his peers and the relationships with them. One of my problems with Usopp was that he never realised his place in the crew, always wanting to be captain and never beleiving in the unit that is the team. Now he seems to have grown past that.
That's ridiculous. Him wanting to be captain was never something else than comic relief, as for this nonsense about him finally understanding the fact he's part of a team being character development, you can't be serious.
Please explain how, as of now, his situation is any different than at the beginning of the arc. He left because his "place in the crew" was the one of the useless weakling who'd endanger his comrades and couldn't hold his own when the situation worsened.
How're things any different now? He still can't fight, he still has to be saved or avenged, but all of sudden because the ero cook makes a tear jerking speech about the worst clichés of shonen manga, he accepts his situation and understands he was wrong all along, that it doesn't matter if he's weak cause others are here to save him? That's his character development? That's pathetic.
There's potential for character development, if in the next chapters he shines in his gunner role and really finds his place in the crew. If the only thing he does though is fighting some character weaker than the Marine he took down in the Puffing Tom with his metallic star, it'd make Sanji's speech totally meaningless (as it isn't something Sanji can't do), and it'd make me think Oda completely screwed up and in retrospection all that cheap drama of Usopp leaving the crew and fighting Luffy would feel like nothing more than totally dispensible crap.
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Being that you're french, could you see a team of eleven Zidanes beating China like the other day? or how about if there was no Ribery and he never came on to the change the game? it's about being part of a team.
A clock needs it's cogs, even if it's only one that turns the hands.
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Being that you're french, could you see a team of eleven Zidanes beating China like the other day?
None of the Strawhats are washed up bald playmakers.
No, seriously, we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
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Nice, thanks igalsfy. Finally a chapter ALL ABOUT SANJI AGAIN!
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Haha, Sabret00the and I actually agree on something. It's a miracle! (except for the part about him not believing in the unit of the team crap, that's missing the mark a bit. And he'll always still want to be called Captain Usopp).
Uh… No. Seriously, just no. At least not for the moment as far as "character development" is concerned, and screentime is arguable, especially when that screentime consists at 90% of him being beaten to a pulp and humiliated.
Sorry, but I think you're really missing the boat. What is character development to you? Everything goes according to originally planned and no suffering is involved? That's the opposite of character development. That convenient fantasy. There can be no character development without suffering. You know the saying, "the road to success is paved with failure". Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.
Like I said last time around, Usopp fighting and winning against Jyabura would have gained him nothing in character. This has been a story arc about not just the role of the individual, but also what binds them together as a team. Remember what Usopp said when he first left the crew? The only connection he has is that Luffy invited him along. What he's going to realize that there he has a role and an ability that nobody else can fill and that he doesn't have to fill anyone else's in return. That even goes all the way back to Arlong Park when Luffy told Arlong that he needs his crewmates because there's a lot of things he can't do.
And another good quote. Because I love good quotes.
"If I had to select one quality, one personal characteristic that I regard as being most highly correlated with success whatever the field, I would pick the trait of persistence. Determination. The will to endure to the end, to get knocked down 70 times and get up off the floor saying, 'Here comes number 71!'" - Richard M. Devos
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Thanks igalsfy dude!
Great chapter
Can't stop laughing esspecially the chimney painting panel
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"If I had to select one quality, one personal characteristic that I regard as being most highly correlated with success whatever the field, I would pick the trait of persistence. Determination. The will to endure to the end, to get knocked down 70 times and get up off the floor saying, 'Here comes number 71!'" - Richard M. Devos
**I love that quote.
And I'm pretty sure the chimney painting game will prove important to the strawhats, just you wait.**
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While it's highly unlikely that Usopp could stop the buster call, his revelation does have something to do with it. It's what Sanji said, "as long as you're here we can save Robin." Both he and Usopp were there to hear firsthand from Blueno that it was Robin's pathological fear of the Buster Call that kept her from resisting. The only way to save Robin is to relieve that fear by showing her that the strawhats can fight the Buster Call and win, escaping from it isn't enough. And Usopp is in the best position to do something about it, although what that is is still pure speculation. I can't wait to see what it is he'll do, and even though Sogeking was cool as all hell, I'm glad to see he's back to being Usopp.
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wow, thx alot for this chapter
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What he's going to realize that there he has a role and an ability that nobody else can fill and that he doesn't have to fill anyone else's in return.
Okay… That's exactly what I said here:
There's potential for character development, if in the next chapters he shines in his gunner role and really finds his place in the crew. If the only thing he does though is fighting some character weaker than the Marine he took down in the Puffing Tom with his metallic star, it'd make Sanji's speech totally meaningless (as it isn't something Sanji can't do), and it'd make me think Oda completely screwed up and in retrospection all that cheap drama of Usopp leaving the crew and fighting Luffy would feel like nothing more than totally dispensible crap.
But it's only speculation for the moment. I'm sorry, but now, there's no character development. You're talking about suffering, resilience, all that stuff he went through and showed FOR THE LAST 400 CHAPTERS.
He's still the same character, nothing changed, and him winning the battle of the nancies against Spandam wouldn't change a damn thing about his status of "useless guy who constantly needs to be saved, can take on the weakest opponents when real fighters are busy but who stays around cause he's funny and tries hard".
Now, if he actually starts to blow shit up (and by shit I mean Buster Call ship) and shows that yes, he can be useful to Luffy and his crew in a situation they'll probably face a lot of times now, then yes, he'd have learned that he isn't a fighter like others, but he still can do things that nobody else can, and that he's useful.
For the moment here's his character development:
Usopp: I'm weak and useless I leave the crew.
(few hours later)
Sanji: We're a team it doesn't matter if you're weak and useless.
Usopp: Oh ok.Color me fucking impressed.
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My badass hero Mr. Prince is back.
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Also, Sanji is far too badass for flashbacks.
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Aldrich, Sanji never said to Usopp "You're weak and Useless…"
What he said was basically, "I can fight this guy, and you can't. You can do things that I can't. Go do what I can't, and save Robin."
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I see your point Aldrich. Usopp needs to develop into a dedicated sniper, and stop being the oddman out. As much as I like Usopp, I would love for him to have confidence and purpose. I still want him to be artistic and inventive, but yes he should have a more defined role to go along with his other talents. In a way, he would be like Sanji: skilled in a particular way of fighting and have a talent/skill to use in times of peace and travel.
To be fair, CosmicDebris is right that Usopp's struggle is bringing him to that revelation. The dots are connecting eventually Usopp will become the Straw Hat's official sniper/inventor.
I also can't wait for him to reconcile with Luffy! I want them to be friends again. :(
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I think that Ussop's Kabuto weapon could take out one buster call warship, but not all of them.
These are the kinda comments that really just make me give up on people…
If his Kabuto can destory one, it can destory 1,000. Don't be so dumb.
But either way, whether Usopp takes on the Buster Call or not, I don't know nor do I care to speculate publicly about it. I got faith in Oda with all of this character development stuff. Usopp's gonna have everyone like =OOOOOOO when it's his turn to shine. Trust that.
Usopp: I'm weak and useless I leave the crew.
(few hours later)
Sanji: We're a team it doesn't matter if you're weak and useless.
Usopp: Oh ok.It's more like…
Usopp: I'm weak and useless I leave the crew before I get left behind.
(few hours later)
Sanji: We're a team that covers each others weaknesses. Do what you do best to ensure we can save Robin. We need you.
Usopp: He's right.yada yada yada...
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I agree with both CosmicDebris and (surprisingly) sabretoothe. I initially thought that Ussop should have taken on Jyabura, and the victory would send the message to himself and his crew that he was as capable as the rest of them, as he had wanted. Now I realize that such a thing couldn't happen, or else Ussop would stop being the character we love so much.
As I had mentioned in another thread, Ussop is always trying to be something he is not. He wants to be the ideal brave warrior of the sea, he wants to be the captain of the Going Merry, and he wants to be a strong and capable fighter as the rest of his crew. He sets up these goals because he is uncomfortable with who he is and what he is capable of doing. He doesn't think his crewmates appreciates his role on the ship because he sees himself as a weakling that constantly needs to be saved. That's why he pursues difficult challenges to make up for his inabilities, and when he inevitably gets knocked down, he feels humiliated. He keeps pushing to complete his impossible goals because he wants to change himself, not realizing that his crew like him and need him to be the person he has always been.
Winning over Jyabura would have significantly changed his attitude on that aspect. If he was able to take on such a strong opponent, he would have accomplished one of his goals. He would begin to think he was as worthy a fighter as Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji, and start to become more like them. That's not Ussop. A change like that would be so dramatic that he would cease being the character we know. That's why his revelation after Sanji's words is so important. He now realizes that he doesn't need to reach that goal, that he needs to be himself, and that his crewmates would still appreciate him. That is a huge and very important change to his character for him to see what his crew and his many fans have already known about him.
He will do something big by the end of this arc. And even though Spandam is weaker than a Marine, he is still the mastermind behind this whole operation and taking him down would be a very dramatic scene.
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I agree with both CosmicDebris and (surprisingly) sabretoothe. I initially thought that Ussop should have taken on Jyabura, and the victory would send the message to himself and his crew that he was as capable as the rest of them, as he had wanted. Now I realize that such a thing couldn't happen, or else Ussop would stop being the character we love so much.
As I had mentioned in another thread, Ussop is always trying to be something he is not. He wants to be the ideal brave warrior of the sea, he wants to be the captain of the Going Merry, and he wants to be a strong and capable fighter as the rest of his crew. He sets up these goals because he is uncomfortable with who he is and what he is capable of doing. He doesn't think his crewmates appreciates his role on the ship because he sees himself as a weakling that constantly needs to be saved. That's why he pursues difficult challenges to make up for his inabilities, and when he inevitably gets knocked down, he feels humiliated. He keeps pushing to complete his impossible goals because he wants to change himself, not realizing that his crew like him and need him to be the person he has always been.
Winning over Jyabura would have significantly changed his attitude on that aspect. If he was able to take on such a strong opponent, he would have accomplished one of his goals. He would begin to think he was as worthy a fighter as Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji, and start to become more like them. That's not Ussop. A change like that would be so dramatic that he would cease being the character we know. That's why his revelation after Sanji's words is so important. He now realizes that he doesn't need to reach that goal, that he needs to be himself, and that his crewmates would still appreciate him. That is a huge and very important change to his character for him to see what his crew and his many fans have already known about him.
He will do something big by the end of this arc. And even though Spandam is weaker than a Marine, he is still the mastermind behind this whole operation and taking him down would be a very dramatic scene.
Exactly, i'm not sure if he has to do something this chapter, but that revelation is what was the most important thing for Usopp to acheive, not a trophy but to realise that he's fine being him. it's not your role in the crew but who you are that makes you a special member of the crew.
And Aldrich i know you beleive Usopp wanting to be captain and/or co-captain of various things was a joke, but i beleive that was a part of what anothrnobdy speaks about. Usopp just always wanted a role and i found it annoying and disrespectful, i really hope all of that ends with this arc, i'll actually be disappointed if it's not.
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Well stated! I would hate for Usopp to be like Zoro or Sanji. He's my favorite Straw Hat because he's wacky and nerdy! XD I just want him to have a more defined role and confidence. I don't care if he has a major battle or not. If he fights Spandam, then fine. If it's the Buster Call, that's good too. He just needs to be himself and proud of it! He's already a marksman and inventor. Now he can basically cement his place in the crew with those roles and overcome his doubts. :)
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One of the things I liked in this arc was him revolting against that state of weakness by leaving the crew and fighting Luffy. What you're saying is that basically he shouldn't have felt guilty or ashamed of losing the money or getting beat up by the Franky Family because that's the way his crewmates ever knew him and that his weaknesses don't matter to them.
So basically, his character development is him figuring out he was wrong in his will to change, that it's perfectly ok to be weak as soon as you have strong nakamas to protect you and that everything's alright if you do your best, even if you fail miserably.
That's the complete contrary of character development to me. It's at best stagnation, at worst downfall. You're completely ignoring one aspect of his personality that is his pride. I simply can't picture how the mere fact Sanji gave that inane speech can make him brush off all his doubts and act as nothing happened. But hey, maybe I "missed the boat" after all.
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Not exactly. I'm saying that he should still be the eccentric guy, but that doesn't mean he has to be weak and cowardly. He can be the eccentric, bad-ass sniper/inventor! I've been pointing out confidence, as have a few other folks from my observations.
It's a matter of his pride, yes, as well as self-actualization. He can feel proud of who he is while also growing and changing as a person.
To be brutally honest, I think that CosmicDebris, Aldrich, and Sabretooth all have good points. You just have a misunderstanding, that's all! :) -
So basically, his character development is him figuring out he was wrong in his will to change, that it's perfectly ok to be weak as soon as you have strong nakamas to protect you and that everything's alright if you do your best, even if you fail miserably.
That's the complete contrary of character development to me. It's at best stagnation, at worst downfall. You're completely ignoring one aspect of his personality that is his pride. I simply can't picture how the mere fact Sanji gave that inane speech can make him brush off all his doubts and act as nothing happened. But hey, maybe I "missed the boat" after all.
Quite honestly, you sound like Bellamy. Everything Luffy our Captain, my captain and yours has been preaching has gone over your head. This isn't the age of the strong where the strong will have the power and decide the future. Luffy needs to protect and keep his Nakama together, just as he cannot navigate or cook or use a cannon.
Ussops weakness isn't a weakness at all, you simply fail to realize his strengths are strengths and not average "anyone can do this" activities.
Also Sanji is the man nananna nananana nanana GO SANJI!
Jyabura is seriously cool too though.. we haven't seen Lucci go all out, but thus far quite honestly Jyabura seems to have mastered the 6 forms way beyond the other CP9 members, then again many of the others also use weapons/non Zoan df's so I guess it can be reasonable. Still Sanji and Jyabura, the battle of the "cool" characters is definately going to be one for the Fonzi book of records ey? :p -
Not exactly. I'm saying that he should still be the eccentric guy, but that doesn't mean he has to be weak and cowardly. He can be the eccentric, bad-ass sniper/inventor! I've been pointing out confidence, as have a few other folks from my observations.
It's a matter of his pride, yes, as well as self-actualization. He can feel proud of who he is while also growing and changing as a person.
To be brutally honest, I think that CosmicDebris, Aldrich, and Sabretooth all have good points. You just have a misunderstanding, that's all! :)Actually I was replying to anothrnobdy's post. Should have used the quote function, my bad.
To reply to your points now; I don't understand either why people assume he'd lose his distinctive traits of personality (goofiness, creativity, hell even cowardness) if he defeated Jyabura or accomplished any other thing he supposedly can't do. Not to mention those who say that he'd all of sudden be exactly like Zoro and Sanji if he became less weak. Seems absurd.
As for him being proud of what he is; I don't think so. I think it's contradictory. He can't be proud of his weakness and the fact he's a burden for his nakamas, cause no matter how you try to sugarcoat it, that's what he is… For the moment.
Quite honestly, you sound like Bellamy.
Why thank you my good man.
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What you're saying is that basically he shouldn't have felt guilty or ashamed of losing the money or getting beat up by the Franky Family because that's the way his crewmates ever knew him and that his weaknesses don't matter to them.
No, not quite. Shit happens. Usopp isn't the only one that ever failed. Considering he was ambushed, the same thing could have happened some of the other crewmembers. Feeling ashamed is one thing, feeling worthless to the point of leaving the crew is another thing. The first option leaves room for trying again, the second is giving up. That was the low point for Usopp. Because instead of trying harder he decided that he was worthless to the crew and gave up.
So basically, his character development is him figuring out he was wrong in his will to change, that it's perfectly ok to be weak as soon as you have strong nakamas to protect you and that everything's alright if you do your best, even if you fail miserably.
Is that all you can see besides your own point of view?
No, he's not weak, he never was weak. Just like Sanji isn't weak because he couldn't fight Calipha, and Nami isn't weak because she couldn't fight Kumadori.
The character development is that he doesn't have to fill someone else's shoes. He's been trying to be a jack of all trades and master of none for a long time. Now you are right that at this point it's still speculation of what he's going to do so I can't say it conclusively, but at this point I am taking it by faith and logic that he will do something that is impressive.
And One Piece is far from over, we may yet see him take on a strong opponent one on one, but when he's ready for it. It's nice to have more to look forward to.That's the complete contrary of character development to me. It's at best stagnation, at worst downfall. You're completely ignoring one aspect of his personality that is his pride.
Ah yes, Pride. The very thing that is really the cause of him leaving the crew and all. Pride always comes before the fall, you know? It's not a strength. It's a weakness. If Usopp can overcome that just a little, that's a much bigger enemy to himself than Jyabura, and I'd say that's some pretty heavy character development by itself.
I simply can't picture how the mere fact Sanji gave that inane speech can make him brush off all his doubts and act as nothing happened. But hey, maybe I "missed the boat" after all.
Maybe because Usopp, just like everyone else, is more concerned about saving his friend's life than pouting and moping over his wounded pride?
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Ok, we just have completely opposed views on the character. I said what I had to say and I'll leave it at that, cause I don't think anybody will change his mind on the subject, no matter how many rants we keep churning out.
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Aldrich, there is only one person that thinks Ussop is weak, and that is Ussop himself. The thing is that he wants to become impossibly strong like Luffy, Zoro and Sanji, but doesn't realize that he can't. He isn't comfortable with who he is, and tries to change himself for the better even though it's not necessary.
As for his pride, Ussop is not taking pride in himself. He has pride in the person he wants to be, but not in the person he is now. That's why his pride is always damaged each time he loses against an impossible goal. That's why he needs a change - to have pride in being Ussop, sniper/gunner of the Strawhats, and not someone else.
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That's fine. Let's at least just wait and see what he does and how it all ends before we make a final decision on whether Oda did proper justice to Usopp or not.
If I'm totally wrong and Oda has him do something really retarded then I'll be pissed too.
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I must agree to Aldrish in many of these things about Usopp. To have the "same old Usopp" that realizes he must not become stronger to aid his crew is stagnation. Nami was not a fighter, but WAAAAAY back on Alabasta she asked a weapon for Usopp because she wanted to be able to hold herself so that the crew would not need to worry about her, so that she would not be useless when the fights were to began. She herself said that. Guess what, she got a weapon, did not became a different Nami (just added a new ability to her repertoire) and hundreds of chapters later is able to take down a super-human foe with some effort. Did that destroy what Nami was as a character? No.
Why Usopp must stay exactly the same and not evolve his abilities. He wants to be the brave warrior of the sea. To say that he must just accept what he is is like saying that Zoro should accept that he does not need to be the best swordsman in the world. Why Usopp must give up his dream?
And plus, just like Nami, Usopp must be able to handle himself, so that others do not need to save him everytime, so that he can contribute to the team. I am not saying that he must be the stronger and kick ass in a regular basis, but I want to see the "Mr. 4 fight Usopp" once again. How many "DON!" scenes have Usopp made in the entire series?
That said, I must also say that I expect Usopp to do something astonishing before the end. People keep saying that he will destroy or delay the Buster Call, but I hope not. The Buster Call should be something that only the combined strength of all the Strawhats can defeat, to reassure their unity, and to show the government that united they can be invincible.
I think Spandam will defeat Franky, or put him in a helpless situation. Then, when Spandam is about to cross the gate, Usopp will act. But I hope Usopp face some odds that are against him and win. Whatever happens, I hope Oda will deliver something very good.