Some people were betting Toshiro Mifune as the basis for next admiral, if I recall.
I will love if he become a Shogun of Wano …
Some people were betting Toshiro Mifune as the basis for next admiral, if I recall.
I will love if he become a Shogun of Wano …
I will love if he become a Shogun of Wano …
That wouldn't make any sense. Why would a Marine Admiral become a shogun of a mysterious isolated island few know about?
That wouldn't make any sense. Why would a Marine Admiral become a shogun of a mysterious isolated island few know about?
I mean Toshiro Mifune as the basis for Shogun of Wano, so he is not Admiral.
@Galaxy:
Nah, the sketch was of another "potential" admiral that Oda sketched out in the SBS ( like Pink Bunny in the previous).
Some people think that a recent volume intro image may be the basis for Green Bull though.
Whats pink bunny? That design was epic tho, the last one i mean.
I just want Green Bull to be a woman. :getlost:
@LordEnel:
Whats pink bunny? That design was epic tho, the last one i mean.
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One of the vice admirals that were considered for the admiral position during the timeskip. Appeared in the Volume 74 SBS.
it`s like oda completely lost the ability of giving young thin women different faces, even when based on real people
surely he would never actually make his characters appears beforehand.
Althought I must say, that latest sketch I'm talking about, is really, really epic.
it`s like oda completely lost the ability of giving young thin women different faces, even when based on real people
Her face doesn't resemble any other female character in the series so…
she`s tashigi with thicker eyebrows and lipstick.
compared to the male counterparts, she hardly ever resembles the person shes based on. Oda tried too hard to fit her features into the nami body he gives to 95% of the female cast. Im not at home right now but when I arrive I
ll make a little comparison. It`s not really my intention to derail this topic tho, but it seems the topic about OP females was closed…
she`s tashigi with thicker eyebrows and lipstick.
compared to the male counterparts, she hardly ever resembles the person she`s based on. Oda tried too hard to fit her features into the nami body he gives to 95% of the female cast.
You omit the features that define her just so you can compare her to another character? Her nose, eyes, and face shape all differ from Tashigi.
There is no "Nami body". The body type that's given to the thinner females is simply a style of choice. It's the same way with the younger looking adult males like Sanji, Shanks, Mihawk, Smoker, Vergo, Zoro. Law and Sabo. The majority of the characters in the series have sets of body archetypes they fit into that a lot of other characters have. It's not only with the females.
The reason why the male admirals look so much like their counterparts is because they're facial features are easily distinguishable. Even Kizaru, Aokiji, and Akainu share the same body archetype.
Don't bother making the comparison because I really don't want to have this conversation. It's redundant.
Even Kizaru, Aokiji, and Akainu share the same body archetype.
Actually Akainu's chest and shoulders are noticeably broader than the other two. He's closer to Garp and many of the vice admirals than either of the other two, who both share thinner frames and proportionally longer limbs.
I am watching the 3d2y special and holy shit I am barely haflway through and they really outdid themselves with the sexism. Jesus Christ what the fuck. This is even worse then usual. God some girl gang should really beat the shit out of Oda a few times. It's something he desperately needs
I am watching the 3d2y special and holy shit I am barely haflway through and they really outdid themselves with the sexism. Jesus Christ what the fuck. This is even worse then usual. God some girl gang should really beat the shit out of Oda a few times. It's something he desperately needs
I'm sure that wouldn't help him love women.
Umm i dont watch 3d2y special yet, care to elaborate about 'really outdid themselves with the sexism' ?
I presume that means bigger boobs with non-existant hips?
I am watching the 3d2y special and holy shit I am barely haflway through and they really outdid themselves with the sexism. Jesus Christ what the fuck. This is even worse then usual. God some girl gang should really beat the shit out of Oda a few times. It's something he desperately needs
Didn't watch that, but I don't think it was written by Oda in the first place. It's basically filler right?
What was super offensive about that special?
Didn't watch that, but I don't think it was written by Oda in the first place. It's basically filler right?
What was super offensive about that special?
Nothing we've never seen before, just Hancock fighting barely clothed and using all her Hancockness to defeat her opponent. Pretty unnecessary tbh but i didn't think of it as overly offensive.
Nothing we've never seen before, just Hancock fighting barely clothed and using all her Hancockness to defeat her opponent. Pretty unnecessary tbh but i didn't think of it as overly offensive.
That was bad enough on it's own. But the fact that we were led to believe that we would finally get to see Hancock having decent fight and to get fucking tricked again? Luffy goddamn took hits for her because apparently the thought of for once actually giving a good looking woman a decent hand to hand fight is apaprently too damn much for Oda and his miserable sexist friends
Ugh.
That was bad enough on it's own. But the fact that we were led to believe that we would finally get to see Hancock having decent fight and to get fucking tricked again? Luffy goddamn took hits for her because apparently the thought of for once actually giving a good looking woman a decent hand to hand fight is apaprently too damn much for Oda and his miserable sexist friends
Ugh.
Well seriously, the sexism is not only Oda problem but more like current world problem. If we wanna look at it from that POV.
Personal opinion? I think its just major stereotype, and Oda just using it so his manga is easier to digest and sink into the biggest shounen market age range.
But after i think about hancock df power, sexism seems like a good way to utilise it to the max, no?
And like Ordinary said above, was it really written by Oda?
That was bad enough on it's own. But the fact that we were led to believe that we would finally get to see Hancock having decent fight and to get fucking tricked again? Luffy goddamn took hits for her because apparently the thought of for once actually giving a good looking woman a decent hand to hand fight is apaprently too damn much for Oda and his miserable sexist friends
Ugh.
I understand your feelings but this is all on Toei; Oda gets a free pass on this one.
I somewhat get it when they hold back when it's male vs female but with their female vs female they're exaggerating with the concept of women are untouchable flowers.
People are like feathers, the weakest wind can make them fly
I have to agree this scene is unnecessary fanservice.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/abe63fed323c327c58af254f6ad7f896/tumblr_nbberjum3B1t2vza0o3_500.jpg
But, we have seen hancock topless on this scene:
so…
I have to agree this scene is unnecessary fanservice.
But, we have seen hancock topless on this scene:
so…
My mind is quite numb on this sexism topic..but cant help to notice that hancock drawing style in that 2 scene seems different?
Especially the abdomen part…omg cant believe that modern media exaggerate the meaning of 'hourglass figure' to that extent....
I am watching the 3d2y special and holy shit I am barely haflway through and they really outdid themselves with the sexism. Jesus Christ what the fuck. This is even worse then usual. God some girl gang should really beat the shit out of Oda a few times. It's something he desperately needs
All Toei, no Oda.
I have to agree this scene is unnecessary fanservice.
But, we have seen hancock topless on this scene:
so…
I don't mind the service so much. Hell she could fight naked but just give her a goddamn fight. Honestly unless a woman is butt ugly or fat it's like the mere thought of her actually hitting someone with her bare fist or god forbid actually getting hit back is impossible for Oda
And this in an universe where muscle strength and biology means essentially nothing since there seems to be no upper limit to how strong you can become and woman can easily be just as strong as men
All Toei, no Oda.
Oda is the finall boss and he is the one who started this trend so at the end this is bullshit is all on him.
I'm sure that wouldn't help him love women.
He doesn't need to love them. Just treat them like human beings and not like glass sculptures. Getting the shit kicked out of him by some gasp looking woman who is proficient at martial arts might just help with putting him in his place
He doesn't need to love them. Just treat them like human beings and not like glass sculptures. Getting the shit kicked out of him by some gasp looking woman who is proficient at martial arts might just help with putting him in his place
Here's a thing though: I can't think of a single character that Oda would treat as a proper human being.
Oda is the finall boss and he is the one who started this trend so at the end this is bullshit is all on him.
Wait, you think Oda invented fanservice?
Oda is the finall boss and he is the one who started this trend so at the end this is bullshit is all on him.
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Err sorry, translation?
@King Cannon : no i think s/he meant its the fault of Oda in the end because Oda do fan service + beautiful girls cant get the same portion in tanking hits compared to the non-beauty species, in the manga. So TOEI take this 'treatment' and amplify it.
So its Oda's fault because he also support and slip that kind of fan service in OP.
@King Cannon : no i think s/he meant its the fault of Oda in the end because Oda do fan service + beautiful girls cant get the same portion in tanking hits compared to the non-beauty species, in the manga. So TOEI take this 'treatment' and amplify it.
So its Oda's fault because he also support and slip that kind of fan service in OP.
That's dumb.
It was ultimately Toei's decision to even include a fight in the first place.
He doesn't need to love them. Just treat them like human beings and not like glass sculptures. Getting the shit kicked out of him by some gasp looking woman who is proficient at martial arts might just help with putting him in his place
Oh I see, treating characters like humans is about making them fight.
Personality? Boo! Character development? Boo! Being able to show emotions? Boo! No, they gotta fight, because that's what being a character is all about.
Badass or GTFO.
Wait, you think Oda invented fanservice?
What's people obsession with fanservice? It's just cartoon tits and ass. I don't give two shits if women like Nico Robin and Hancock are fighting naked as long as they are actually allowed to truly fight. It's absolutely ridiculous the way woman are treated in world like One Piece where there is no limit on how tough and strong you can become with training
Oh I see, treating characters like humans is about making them fight.
Oh I see, treating characters like humans is about making them fight.Personality? Boo! Character development? Boo! Being able to show emotions? Boo! No, they gotta fight, because that's what being a character is all about.
Badass or GTFO.
I love how defensive fan kiddies get. You ignore the entire VERY important issue about how woman are shown and instead try to insert words in my mouth . Love it
After all it's perfectly fine that every attractive woman no matter how strong she is supposed to be is treated like a glass figurine who can't take a or give an actual punch? I mean they show emotions and have character develeopment so that makes it all perfect right for them to be treated this way right?
Hey what do you know. Now I am acting like you. Fun isn't it?
What's people obsession with fanservice? It's just cartoon tits and ass. I don't give two shits if women like Nico Robin and Hancock are fighting naked as long as they are actually allowed to truly fight. It's absolutely ridiculous the way woman are treated in world like One Piece where there is no limit on how tough and strong you can become with training
I love how defensive fan kiddies get. You ignore the entire VERY important issue about how woman are shown and instead try to insert words in my mouth . Love it
After all it's perfectly fine that every attractive woman no matter how strong she is supposed to be is treated like a glass figurine who can't take a or give an actual punch? I mean they show emotions and have character develeopment so that makes it all perfect right for them to be treated this way right?
Hey what do you know. Now I am acting like you. Fun isn't it?
I'm not ignoring any issues. I'm questioning your own dumb logic. What is this shit about women not being treated as human beings? Are you sure "treating like human beings" is the correct way to phrase what you want?
We had Rebecca getting clobbered at the head by Diamante. And Tashigi getting her shoulder crunched by Monet.
I'm far more upset about Rebecca contradicting her own character than never hitting/getting hit (and she was hit several times anyway).
And apparently, wishing for a bunch of girls to beat up Oda would change something. Even if joking, that just sounds sociopathic. "Hey, we should make this guy treat his characters like human beings by not treating him like a human being!"
Watch out Mangakas judgment is coming, repent yourselves or pay the consequences!
a bunch of girls to beat up Oda would change something.
Well, that at least will change his face structures, like what Sanji did to a certain person near Sabaody :ninja:
I'm not ignoring any issues. I'm questioning your own dumb logic. What is this shit about women not being treated as human beings? Are you sure "treating like human beings" is the correct way to phrase what you want?
We had Rebecca getting clobbered at the head by Diamante. And Tashigi getting her shoulder crunched by Monet.
I'm far more upset about Rebecca contradicting her own character than never hitting/getting hit (and she was hit several times anyway).
And apparently, wishing for a bunch of girls to beat up Oda would change something. Even if joking, that just sounds sociopathic. "Hey, we should make this guy treat his characters like human beings by not treating him like a human being!"
Ok phrase police. Treated equally . Does this sound better now?
Well he is an artist. Perhaps a little ass kicking will be the inspiration he needs to get over his sexist views. Never hurts to try. Well it will hurt him I guess….
If Oda is soooo sexist blah blah go read fairy tail and stop posting about your dreams of women beating up a man writing his OWN story….fuck off...Good sir
If Oda is soooo sexist blah blah go read fairy tail and stop posting about your dreams of women beating up a man writing his OWN story….fuck off...Good sir
I was going to say, creating something out of nothing to fit his/her ideological narrative. Go to some social equality websites and push your views, they may actually care there.
It's a fucking manga about a rubber pirate and a giant talking reindeer. Not a case study on the cultural and social ramifications of an artists writing style.
Not to mention that Chopper has thrown the hippocratic oath out of the window.
I am watching the 3d2y special and holy shit I am barely haflway through and they really outdid themselves with the sexism. Jesus Christ what the fuck. This is even worse then usual. God some girl gang should really beat the shit out of Oda a few times. It's something he desperately needs
Unlike your favorite show Powerpuff girls and Sailor moon?
Unlike your favorite show Powerpuff girls and Sailor moon?
Hey now, I used to watch those shows 15 years ago.
Like i said before, the problem is not with Oda, but more on the global, real world scale.
Now i want to punch Oda in the face because he dared to use nipple lights in man vs man fight. He is guilty for starting that trend!
Like i said before, the problem is not with Oda, but more on the global, real world scale.
Now i want to punch Oda in the face because he dared to use nipple lights in man vs man fight. He is guilty for starting that trend!
Lets end the bickering by calling the attack…creative lol
Blackbeard should chase the Op no mi.
Unlike your favorite show Powerpuff girls and Sailor moon?
Good point actually. An average episode of the Powerpuff Girls treat it's female characters better and gives them better fights then Oda has done for his own female character in 600 episodes
Good point actually. An average episode of the Powerpuff Girls treat it's female characters better and gives them better fights then Oda has done for his own female character in 600 episodes
That tends to happen when the show is about 3 super powered girls…...
So all D's were part of a bloodline that Marijoas wanted to suppress huh.
So all D's were part of a bloodline that Marijoas wanted to suppress huh.
Huh? Garp? Saul?
i thought this was a thread about the new world… my bad.... lol
i find that 3d2y-special really boring, totally meaningless... buggy appearing all the time with his lucky strikes and his over-hyped crew really pisses me off
on the other hand i enjoyed hancock, she deserved some spotlight... she is a great character imo and i adore her. xD
those of you hating on oda, are totally barking up the wrong tree...
ok, that whole nude thing was really uncalled for, but that's how animation works... the drawing has to fit in the stereotypical image of the human body: men muscles, women curves... that's why every male member of the crew has now a six-pack... even usopp, the weakest member after nami, but no one said that that was sexist... moreover, there is no way of showing physical strength in women... ok they could have drawn them with more muscles, but that wouldn't fit into the stereotype of a female body... so their boobs grow... their gain in strength is shown through being more attractive.
hancock is the most beautiful person in one piece (at least that's what oda tried to express), her devil fruit's feature is to make use of the owner's attractiveness... so hancock is perfect for her devil fruit... it would be totally counterproductive if she started punching people or grabbing a sword or any other weapon, her body is her weapon... ok, you might not like it... like i hated foxy's moron-moron beam, but that's a personal issue and not due to oda's distorted view on women.
besides, i think there were a lot of women who played a decisive role in the story... otohime, belmere and many others... just because they had roles other than fighting, doesn't mean that oda treats them like they were inferior. nami, robin, hancock had to go through a lot of shit, but they kept fighting... not only physically, but also mentally...
bonney is a more masculine type of a woman, being a racket and cursing all the time... but that's not the typical image of a woman... but that doesn't mean women are discriminated against... they are just shown with different characteristics than men... and that's totally fine... it would be boring if both genders acted the same.
there, now that we cleared that up, can we please go back to talking about the new world? lol
So all D's were part of a bloodline that Marijoas wanted to suppress huh.
What makes you said that?