King's body odor…
also when he's enraged… !?
King's body odor…
also when he's enraged… !?
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-11/the-seven-deadly-sins-fantasy-manga-gets-tv-anime
A](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-11/the-seven-deadly-sins-fantasy-manga-gets-tv-anime)bout time!
Oh finally! This has made my day.
A bit early imho, I hoped they would wait until all Sins are assembled at least.
Oh well, allow me to formulate my studio wishes:
Madhouse, Production IG, Trigger = HELL YEAH
A-1, Toei, Pierrot, etc. = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My hopes is that they do something good but it would probably be a low bugdet animation focused on the quantity of episodes and not its quality.
This is probably going to be done season by season right? Not a long running series like OP.
long running series doesn't seem to be anime companies business model anymore anyway. They only continue One Piece because they cannot stop it.
To be honest season by season seems to produce better animation in general.
I would be sad if it turns out to be as cheap as the OP anime.
Yeah I'd rather wait some time between seasons and get a quality show than have an uninterrupted supply of mediocrity and disappointment.
Is it me or the anime's synopsis is a little different from the manga?
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-11/the-seven-deadly-sins-fantasy-manga-gets-tv-anime
A](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-11/the-seven-deadly-sins-fantasy-manga-gets-tv-anime)bout time!
well, it was high time they got an anime. and this ain't no red herring this time either.
Really happy for Suzuki. And yea, definitely prefer a 1-2 season per year model for this instead of year round.
Probably going to be in seasons like magi. I just hope they don't change things up to much or catch up quick and do an original ending like soul eater for example. But I sitll think it's too early for and anime at the moment. Wish they would have waited another year or so.
long running series doesn't seem to be anime companies business model anymore anyway. They only continue One Piece because they cannot stop it.
What? There was always those two models, and companies always made both of them, and are still making. The seasonal anime always were made in more quantity, than long running, for obvious reasons! A long running locks a slot for a long time, while a seasonal locks it for a shorter time giving it space for other seasonal anime later.
The top 10 TV ratings anime in Japan are all long running, and below those 10 there is a lot of other anime that are long running as well(Naruto, Inazuma Eleven, Folklore of Japan, HunterxHunter, …)
Normally, series in the afternoon and morning time slots are all long running series and series in the night time slots are seasonal. Exception to that can be seen to Haikyuu that is seasonal with an afternoon timeslot and HunterxHunter that is long running with a night timeslot.
"Otaku" anime are the ones that are getting more presence in the west right now, and obviously majority of them are seasonal. So it may seem like everything is seasonal, but it isn't.
TOEI the animation company that makes One Piece, this season has 3 long running series(One Piece, Happiness Precure, Dragon Ball Kai) , and next season(or is the next? I don't remember) will had 1 more long running series(Sailor Moon) making 4 long running series running in the same company. Note: We don't even know what will be the length of Majin Bone and Matsutarou, two other anime of this season by TOEI. They can very well end up being long running series.
Fairy Tail just returned this season and it is a long running anime. Youkai Watch started in last season and it is a long running anime too. Ace of Diamond started in the season before this one and it is a long running anime too.
About Nanatsu no Taizai, I would prefer a seasonal anime by a great animation studio, but probably will be a long running anime, and I'm not that much against it, except if it is Pierrot because they love to make horrible long horrible fillers.
Well I had the impression that most new adaptations were seasonal. Or long ones with pauses. But since I'm not really interested in anime in general, I won't say more and let the experts talk.
Well I had the impression that most new adaptations were seasonal. Or long ones with pauses. But since I'm not really interested in anime in general, I won't say more and let the experts talk.
I'm not an expert.
That impression is probably due to recent famous seasonal titles like Blue Exorcist, Attack on Titan, Magi, Kuroko no basket. While the ones that people of the west remember in the past are majority of them Long running, like Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, …
There always existed companies that liked to do long running series and companies that liked to do short/seasonal series. Toei is in this business since the 60s and it always liked to do long running series(but it always did some short series as well), Sunrise is in this business since the 70s and it always liked to do short running series. Majority of the good companies are really old(70s or 80s or even earlier) and they normally keep the same business format through the ages, so is not like they suddenly changed that.
Even if right now there is more companies with that business format(short and seasonal) than previously, the increase certainly isn't that significant.
Please don't fuck this up. PLEASE. DON'T. FUCK. THIS. UP.
Sigh, it hasn't even been two years yet. Oh well, best case scenario we get something like Shingeki anime, worst case they go the FMA '03 route.
While this is good news, the fact that Kongo Bancho never got an anime infuriates me to this day.
It would be too hard to animate it.
It would be too hard to animate it.
Well, Kongo only got really crazy in the last third of the manga, with some exceptions like Machine banchou's fight.
Seven Deadly Sins has already quite a few action scenes that are going to be quite hard to animate unless they use 3D for the effects. And I'm sure Nakaba is going to be gearing up as the series goes on (unless the studio asks him to take it easy on the world destruction stuff)
^Would a studio really risk messing with their bread and butter like that?
Spoilers of King's Gaidenm chapter:
! Sources: Baidu and mangabird
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Thx for spoilers =) This is gona be soooooooo great :D
And I guess I'll be totally alone in this, but. . .it didn't leave me very satisfied.
Okish, I guess.
That was a very cute chapter, but good lord, how old are King and Diane?
Great chapter.
This chapter answers a few questions I had and leaves me with more questions about the timeline. It seems that every sins are really really old.
I hope Diane's feelings for King will change now that she seemed to remember her past with him.
It does explain some stuff from the last episode, such as Helbram saying to King "how painful it is to watch something dear to you be destroyed right in front of you" or Diane remembering the smell, and it's great. But it isn't as good as Ban's gaiden for some reason that I can't explain…
So it seems Meliodas is atleast 200 years ago, huh? Probably 3000 years old, and fought in that war.
The gaiden was lacking somehow.
I think it dwells too much into the relationship between King and Diane (which was a bit creepy because Diane's love was childlike while King's not so much) and the encounter with Helbram was not fleshed enough. Not enough drama and certainly not enough action.
And what was that about King's power being sealed? Because that wasnt explained.
It's like if we were caught in some Gowther illusion…
The gaiden was lacking somehow.
I think it dwells too much into the relationship between King and Diane (which was a bit creepy because Diane's love was childlike while King's not so much) and the encounter with Helbram was not fleshed enough. Not enough drama and certainly not enough action.
And what was that about King's power being sealed? Because that wasnt explained.
This and that. Agree to both of em.
There's still many questions, and it's kinda underwhelming that they couldn't get answered in 44 freaking pages. I think we all expected more info about the fairy race and King's relationship with his kin, but that was mostly glossed over in favor of King x baby Diane, which was a bit creepy.
I guess come next chapters we'll finally know what's up with King's power, why is Helbram allying with his oh-so-hated humans (I guess unleashing the demon clan on humanity is the best guess here as a sort of super revenge), etc. . .
I'm guessing his power being sealed has to do with why he lost his memories?
I'm curious on how Helbram is still alive, he looked pretty dead there.
This chapter reminded me Pan's Labyrinth for some reason. It seems all the Sin's "crimes" are all misunderstandings from now.
I didn't like this one as much as Ban's either, but it wasn't terrible. It was ok, and answers a few things. I understand the 'creepy' complaints, but just like Elaine and King look like kids, despite being very old, Diane is the same way. At least 100 years transpired during the course of this chapter; Diane's body might mature slowly, but there's no reason to believe her mind develops slow, right? Kind of funny that King looks like a kid but everyone treats him as an adult, while not applying that same standard to his sister or Diane. The depiction is creepy, I agree, they look like children (Diane more so, admittedly), so I'm not defending that, just noting that it can probably be excused to an extent.
Anyway, it was explained last chapter that the reason King cannot use all of his power is because he abandoned the forest and allowed it to be burned down, so he cannot use that power anymore. So King left, lost his memory, acquired his sin which was essentially allowing Helbram to commit all of those murders, then he allows himself to be imprisoned, some time after this the forest is burned down and Elaine killed, then later still he joins the Seven Deadly Sins, then finally he learns about the forest. These latter portions with the forest being burned down due to him being away seems to be why he has some of his powers sealed or whatever.
Liked this chapter a lot I would agree though that it doesn't quite tug at the heartstrings like Ban's gaiden, but to me that has more to do with the tragedy having a different emotional focus than it being a worse chapter. Ban's chapter builds this whole relationship between him and Elaine and the pain it concludes in is due losing her. Whereas King's pain is more centered around his regret due his inaction which causes him all those losses.
In my mind the pain that comes from the void of losing someone stings more intensely than pain that comes from regretting something.
Regret has more of a looming quality with the guilt tightly gripping your heart putting emotional weight on you.
So while the emotional note it hits isn't as intense I still felt King's disappointment in himself for letting Helbram down and for neglecting his responsibilities(despite those things being out of his control).
As for the creepiness what brennen said.
I'm kind of wondering though if Diane's infatuation with Meliodas isn't just due to him treating her like a normal girl but also because she subconsciously reminds her of King, given that they are both about the same size.
Why is Gowther portrayed as a girl in the Uno collaboration?
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Because, "Gowther, my love!"
Edit: Also, this gaiden adds another level to what King must feel to all the times Diane opts to pay attention to Mel over him in the chapters up to this point.
Why is Gowther portrayed as a girl in the Uno collaboration?
That's Cenette. She's the daughter of the doctor guy who poisoned Meliodas. They do look alike though.
I can't say I was terribly entertained by the chapter. At least it answered some of the questions I had about King, so there's that. We might be getting more bits next week during King and Hel's fight.
I don't think it is fair to say that the chapter spend to much time on Diane and King because that is exactly what the problem was. All the time he spend with her was time lost. By focusing on this part, we readers feel exactly how Suzuki wanted us to : The time we think is wasted on the Diane and King pages represents the time King wasted. So after reflection, I find it quite well done.
Also it is quite good that he doesn't answer all questions in one chapter. Isn't that what we enjoy in One Piece ?
I didn't like this one as much as Ban's either, but it wasn't terrible. It was ok, and answers a few things. I understand the 'creepy' complaints, but just like Elaine and King look like kids, despite being very old, Diane is the same way. At least 100 years transpired during the course of this chapter; Diane's body might mature slowly, but there's no reason to believe her mind develops slow, right? Kind of funny that King looks like a kid but everyone treats him as an adult, while not applying that same standard to his sister or Diane. The depiction is creepy, I agree, they look like children (Diane more so, admittedly), so I'm not defending that, just noting that it can probably be excused to an extent.
Anyway, it was explained last chapter that the reason King cannot use all of his power is because he abandoned the forest and allowed it to be burned down, so he cannot use that power anymore. So King left, lost his memory, acquired his sin which was essentially allowing Helbram to commit all of those murders, then he allows himself to be imprisoned, some time after this the forest is burned down and Elaine killed, then later still he joins the Seven Deadly Sins, then finally he learns about the forest. These latter portions with the forest being burned down due to him being away seems to be why he has some of his powers sealed or whatever.
Err the way I see it King at the time had cognition/intelligence far above Diane upon their meeting. Actual human age being less relevant when Diane speaks in such a childlike manner throughout those some-odd potential 100 years. And I personally had no qualms with Elaine. Even in Kingdom I just sorta shrugged off Ouki and Kyou. However in this instance a combination of certain things just makes it appear more questionable.
I didn't like this one as much as Ban's either, but it wasn't terrible. It was ok, and answers a few things. I understand the 'creepy' complaints, but just like Elaine and King look like kids, despite being very old, Diane is the same way. At least 100 years transpired during the course of this chapter; Diane's body might mature slowly, but there's no reason to believe her mind develops slow, right? Kind of funny that King looks like a kid but everyone treats him as an adult, while not applying that same standard to his sister or Diane. The depiction is creepy, I agree, they look like children (Diane more so, admittedly), so I'm not defending that, just noting that it can probably be excused to an extent.
Anyway, it was explained last chapter that the reason King cannot use all of his power is because he abandoned the forest and allowed it to be burned down, so he cannot use that power anymore. So King left, lost his memory, acquired his sin which was essentially allowing Helbram to commit all of those murders, then he allows himself to be imprisoned, some time after this the forest is burned down and Elaine killed, then later still he joins the Seven Deadly Sins, then finally he learns about the forest. These latter portions with the forest being burned down due to him being away seems to be why he has some of his powers sealed or whatever.
More like 500 years. Remember, King met Diane some time after going to search for Helbram (700 years ago), then their next meeting happens 500 years later (meaning 200 years before present)
Err the way I see it King at the time had cognition/intelligence far above Diane upon their meeting. Actual human age being less relevant when Diane speaks in such a childlike manner throughout those some-odd potential 100 years.
Well Diane was isolated, King was not. At the point King admits to loving her he'd been living with her for 400+ years. Not an argument I care to continue, but it is strange that Diane looked like a child for ~500 years, and then apparently hits a maturity growth spurt during the next 200 years or something. Am I missing something? I don't recall all of the timeline mentions.
More like 500 years. Remember, King met Diane some time after going to search for Helbram (700 years ago), then their next meeting happens 500 years later (meaning 200 years before present).
True. I was actually focusing on the time that transpired in the chapter itself, but how long they had known each other is actually more relevant to my point, so thanks.
We now need a Diane's gaiden to discover who Matrona is.
Well Diane was isolated, King was not. At the point King admits to loving her he'd been living with her for 400+ years. Not an argument I care to continue, but it is strange that Diane looked like a child for ~500 years, and then apparently hits a maturity growth spurt during the next 200 years or something. Am I missing something? I don't recall all of the timeline mentions.
True. I was actually focusing on the time that transpired in the chapter itself, but how long they had known each other is actually more relevant to my point, so thanks.
Eh at that point it sorta falls into rearing your lover. Also don't think it's something worth tossing around too much but I'm just saying the circumstances surrounding the whole thing warrant a little distinction from Elaine comparisons. But yeah the growth spurt discrepancy was pretty strange.
Now I just wonder about Diane's sin. Chances of Suzuki tying it back to King? Prefer it not to personally. Makes for greater variation if it focuses solely on Matrona.
But it isn't as good as Ban's gaiden for some reason that I can't explain…
Well personally I think Ban's gaiden was so successful because
! Ban is a sexy-ass motherfucker
Whereas King is not by any stretch of the imagination.
My 2 cents:
I made a visual summary of the chapter, temporally ordered and in webtoon mode, so fasten your belts…
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There are two remarkable shared points of both gaidens: first, Ban and King ended imprisoned; and second, both ended being in love. As for the first point, King was forgiven of his huge penalty by the King of Lyones, when this created the sins. It’s a recurrent topic here, since from the first chapter we knew the sins were famous prisoners, and both gaidens have made sense of that reputation.
To me, a very solid point of this gaiden is that shows a solution for the love tension between Diane, King and Meliodas. Meliodas has his hands full with Elizabeth (‘s boobies), then I was worried about how the author were going to not break Diane’s heart. Now there is a solution; she simply doesn’t remember his first and truly love. It’s only matter of making her to remind of their past. And since the previous chapter showed us Diane remembering not only his name but his odor,…
Now, how humans find a compensation to their short life in the love between husband and wife and in their families? I don’t know; maybe the author is referring to that folk believe that the father lives in the son, and the family name is preserved through the sons (the family name has a long live as it happens with the fairies and giants)… But whatever reason might be, the nice thing to me is that love is presented as some unknown phenomena to the giants and to the fairies. And here the gooey lines reach higher tunes (as it happened with Ban’s gaiden: “Someday I will make you mine”), “- I want you to always love me, - I will…”. This is pretty good stuff for romantic readers, like me. Anyway, the not gooey but cool part is when Diane tells King: “you just have to love me for ever but don’t have to be always by my side”.
About these two common features, I'm guessing the pages about the love between King and Diane are essential to the story. It wouldn't be a surprise to find that Meliodas is a lover unfairly treated by his sins. But don't ask me about Gowther…
Now there are many suspicious things about Helbram’s behaviour: we see him first with his regular wings, then we see how Helbram is reminded by King lying in the ground and mutilated of his wings, and then… again with wings when they 200 years ago? … Helbram points that King is close-minded when he talks about going outside to deal with humans (the ambitious and odd fairy?) … And Helbram has been killed twice, (by the eyepatch guy, and by King) and he’s still alive…
Also I'm still wondering where are the other fairies, those that King left behind when he went to chase Helbram and his kidnappers. Elaine being the only fairy in the forest is still a mysterious picture.
Overall I really liked King and Diane's gaiden, although I agree Ban's gaiden is superior; to me, mainly because King's gaiden narrative was affected by the temporal jumps back and forward, while Ban's gaiden tells nicely a simple and beautiful story.
Yeah, King's gaiden jumped a lot because of his age. It was confusing.