Pretty self-evident, yeah. It's just sad that it ain't happening any faster, you know? :P
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hear , hear .
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XX century was pretty fast. XXI one is going even faster. Who's to say where we will be by its end?
@Monkey:
You're looking at a little wrong.
The yellow doesn't equal Slavs.I didn't notice the world map while typing that. Taking it in consideration, it is easier to grasp the people in question seeing how the yellow goes from India to Altai and to Black Sea which is basically the supposed territory of Scythia. The most of my knowledge about them goes back to the conquests of Alexander the Great (actually, his dad Philip was the one to fight against the Scythian kingdom, Alexander was all about kicking Persian ass mostly) close to their fall though.
Anyway, it still is interesting how an island as remote as Iceland has this much variety. The same goes for the Pacific Ocean islands.
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XX century was pretty fast. XXI one is going even faster. Who's to say where we will be by its end?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that not much, aside from the technology, will change.
People will be people, you know?
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Exactly. But on the contrary, that makes me kind of hopeful.
Although I fear public cars still won't make it to the global market.
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Seriously, what is with people and their aversion to public transit? That alone would cut our overall energy expenditure by like.. I dunno.. like 10000%.
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I don't know what happend to that post but it was supposed to be about flying cars since what's the future without flying cars.
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I don't want flying cars when we can have the high speed tube module transportation that some engineers are envisioning. What I really do want, though, is more efficient and environment-friendly energy production. That one is needed really badly.
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Fusion, baby!
Please ask all you want. I know there are some nuclear energy haters out there. I'm well versed on the subject.
edit: Though, because of lack of funding over the years, it's constantly "20 years away". Hahahahaha
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I'd much rather go all solar than all fusion, really. Fusion's incredibly hard to maintain with our current technology, and needs constant cooling because the temperatures tend to rise pretty darn high. We could easily develop more efficient solar technology and get the same results.
And fission just sucks. I honestly think it's worse than either coal or oil, but better pump money into it and make it at least relatively safe now that we're evidently stuck with it for the next few decades.
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I don't give a fuck about cars at all, what happened to my topic :(
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We took it one step further, lol. It's bloody April outdoors, I need to peer into the future to stay sane.
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And fission just sucks. I honestly think it's worse than either coal or oil, but better pump money into it and make it at least relatively safe now that we're evidently stuck with it for the next few decades.
I wouldn't say that we're stuck with fission (and I really can't think of a way that we might "clean it up"). Majority of our energy actually comes from coal power plants, and there's no conceivable end to that stuff. We just keep burning the world down, lol.
Fission's the worst, though. You're right. Fuck fission.
P.S. I like MK's topic better.
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We took it one step further, lol. It's bloody April outdoors, I need to peer into the future to stay sane.
You're going to need to translate this sentence because it definitely does not translate lol.
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Going for the triple post:
Radioactive fission byproducts have half lives on the order of 10^5 years or more. Not a pretty thing.
Radioactive fusion byproducts are mostly created by neutron bombardment of the container, so you can easily make the thing out of materials that will only have radioactive half lives on the order of decades. Yeah, fusion!
OT: You're all just nuclear energists.
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@Monkey:
You're going to need to translate this sentence because it definitely does not translate lol.
Remember that one picture I posted in October and complained about how it sucked, and you said March is your worst month? April's even worse than October is. I'd imagine it's pretty much the same as your March.
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Remember that one picture I posted in October and complained about how it sucked, and you said March is your worst month? April's even worse than October is. I'd imagine it's pretty much the same as your March.
Gray and muddy, and sometime it snows?
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@Monkey:
Gray and muddy, and sometime it snows?
And the few days it's not muddy the mud dries up and gets kicked up in the air to form massive clouds of brown dust that covers everything. And then it gets wet and makes everything grimy and disgusting. If May wasn't so pretty, I don't know how I could take this.
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Aprilist !
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Okay so what's with the 3 ghost pages, and what's with the off-topic posts?
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Ghost pages have been there since the April Fools broke the forum code. And as for the off-topic, well, you could just read the entire convo and see for yourself?
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And as for the off-topic, well, you could just read the entire convo and see for yourself?
Effort.
Why find something out for yourself when you can just ask people?
I'm going to do neither though.
Because effort.
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Effort.
Why find something out for yourself when you can just ask people?
I'm going to do neither though.
Because effort.
Ghost pages have been there since the April Fools broke the forum code. And as for the off-topic, well, you could just read the entire convo and see for yourself?
Well I don't got the time to look through, I was doing this during my free time between classes lol
Wait, the forum code is actually broken for real?
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It was just some fun banter that followed a good congenial conversation between forum pals. The main topic was actually pretty interesting, so it's worth to check the previous few pages out.
And yeah, there's something wrong with it. Admins keep working on it, but the problem seems to persist. For now.
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Cough True Finns cough.
Oh yeah those guys. Isn't one of the leading members of the party pretty much a raging alchoholic, even by Finnish standards?
I could imagine that he pulls som Jeltsin style cock ups out of his vodka bag
@Monkey:
OUR version of generic globalized American branded culture handles supermarkets betterer than yourrrrrs!!!
A common complaint from the exchange students is that everytime they try to learn something about the language, or the culture of Sweden, the Swedes they attempt to talk to immedietly switch over to English and start talking about like Game of Thrones spoilers, or the road trip they had planned down route 66. Or just anything about Ameri-cat. I think a good conversation starter in Sweden really is hello i'm an American ain't i cool
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A common complaint from the exchange students is that everytime they try to learn something about the language, or the culture of Sweden, the Swedes they attempt to talk to immedietly switch over to English and start talking about like Game of Thrones spoilers, or the road trip they had planned down route 66. Or just anything about Ameri-cat. I think a good conversation starter in Sweden really is hello i'm an American ain't i cool
Yeah parts of Europe are really too damn globalized to be fun to visit in terms of the people lol.
Iceland was like that, there were moments in Reykjavik where I could swear I was in some small suburb city of Boston if I squinted my eyes a bit.Contrast to Greece and yowza.
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To be fair, Sweden's even like that to Finnish people. Go to Stockholm and try speaking Swedish and everyone instantly switches to English being all like "Hey, cousin from the other side of the gulf! How are you doing! Glad we can both be this international and still understand one another better than anyone else, right?"
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Hello mister Greek man sir. Care to converse in English for a bit?
Two hundred words a second bullet hell in Greek thrown straight out. Followed by a ne?
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To be fair, Sweden's even like that to Finnish people. Go to Stockholm and try speaking Swedish and everyone instantly switches to English bein all like "Hey, cousin from the other side of the gulf! How are you doing! Glad we can both be this international and still understand one another better than anyone else, right?"
Swedes really have a hard time understand the other Nordic languages.
It's seemingly much harder for us than for the Norweigans, Danes or Finns
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If it helps, I've always preferred the Rikssvensk pronunciation to the godawful Fennoswede gibberish.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that not much, aside from the technology, will change.
People will be people, you know?
Societies, being composed of people, can only change on a people-time scale (not a person-time scale). It takes like a lifetime for a culture to change.
Pretty self-evident, yeah. It's just sad that it ain't happening any faster, you know? :P
I don't quite agree with the bleak outlook.
The speed of which cultural values have changed between 1950 and 2000 has been astounding in mere 50 years, at least in majority of the first world countries. Some places are slower than others, and some are faster, but America in particular has been blazing fast in changing and developing new values. -
^ I am not saying that nothing will change culturally, but I think that whatever changes we see over the next fifty years will probably be comparable to those of the last fifty.
Also, remember that stupid idiots who are holding on to shitty cultural ideals of the past have to die before they stop being a part of the culture. Then you've got their children to contend with, too. I think the US is a great example of this. Many Americans still sort of identify with the Puritan values that the country was founded on!
And let's not talk about the cultural whiplash of the Civil War that much of the South is still feeling.
Also, 50 years sort of is a lifetime, right?
Technology can make it seem like things are changing a little more than they actually are, IMHO. I won't deny the effects of globalization, though. Sure, that's going to cause some cultural mixing, but again, I bet that the lasting changes to society take many decades to take root.
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Well, even though I don't believe that "Religion is the root of every single violence" and all that, I do think that the new generations becoming more secular and getting involved in technology will really help in regards to tolerance. People might now care at all anymore. After all, I think states that have less religious people often have less crime?
This is a bit of a quick post, as I don't have much time to flesh out my thoughts, so this will sound rough. Take it with a grain of salt please.
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Many Americans still sort of identify with the Puritan values that the country was founded on!
What Puritan values do you mean.
Because most of their bad stuff has been scrubbed out, and their good stuff has been kept.
I think the way we up here adapted and adjusted our past with them is pretty great since we have only taken what we needed (at this point ironically dropping the religious aspect lol). We also don't lionize them, their public works minded utopianism is great, but we don't pretend they also weren't intolerant witch burning indian killers.Puritans are really irrelevant to large parts of the country anyway. Mostly just the extreme Northeast and the uppermost Midwest around the lakes.
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Basically what you just said, MK. My point is that even ideals from hundreds of years ago are still lingering in the states, just evidence that the 20th century did not really exhibit as much cultural change as some people here might be claiming.
Where I grew up in the NE, there definitely was a lot of that snooty, don't talk about your home life/problems, don't smile at/greet passing strangers, you have to achieve achieve achieve to make something of yourself, mentality. This way of thinking seems very Puritan-y to me.
I'm no expert on the subject, though. Just presenting my perspective.
Also, witch hunts are not really just a thing of the past, if you ask me.
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Where I grew up in the NE, there definitely was a lot of that snooty, don't talk about your home life/problems, don't smile at/greet passing strangers, you have to achieve achieve achieve to make something of yourself, mentality. This way of thinking seems very Puritan-y to me.
That sounds more like WASPyness (though you are..black?) then Puritan values. Like my English side of the family is firmly horribly clammy about family problems with finely honed passive-aggressiveness, which has hilariously resulted in 2/3 of my mom and her brothers becoming psychologists lollll.
But the Italian/Irish side is different about that sort of thing.
The no greeting people thing is really pure legendary imo, like maybe in the streets of a city sure, especially NYC. But like walking around otherwise you get little greetings every now and a then. Actually MORE visible with older people which kind of especially hurts this as being true. Sometimes people don't say hi when passing by, but I don't really get what other people see as wrong about this.
As long as people are friendly in direct interaction that's what matters? I also don't think this Puritan at all.The achieve achieve achieve thing is definitely not Puritan.
I mean what part of the NE were you from. New York City and Philly were founded by totally different groups. Rat race mentality sounds New Yorkish, which would be the Dutch.When people talk about negative attributes of Puritans they mean rigid straight laced morality. Which is virtually dead and rotted over a thousand times in the NE.
Interestingly though I guess that is still alive in Utah, given that the Mormons are a really bizarre mutant spin-off of NE protestanism. So I guess that rigidity has survived out there where it's died here. -
Also, witch hunts are not really just a thing of the past, if you ask me.
Now I'm just saying this, but that sounds an awful lot like something a witch would say, if you ask me!
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@Panda:
Now I'm just saying this, but that sounds an awful lot like something a witch would say, if you ask me!
It's a fair cop.
MK, you're probs right. Y'all can go back to ignoring me, now.
I'm definitely a white guy, btw. Grew up in the Chesapeake area (so maybe you could argue that it's not quite NE?).
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It's a fair cop.
MK, you're probs right. Y'all can go back to ignoring me, now.
I'm definitely a white guy, btw. Grew up in the Chesapeake area (so maybe you could argue that it's not quite NE?).
CHESAPEAKE, lol you're nowhere near New England.
Ironically guess what your region was founded on, it was the South.
Maryland was part of the same Northern South cultural region as Virginia and most of North Carolina.
So only recently have you been absorbed into the Northeast. So…uh...you're original home is a perfect example of change over time.Puritan historical basis begins north of NYC. All of New England + upstate NY for the NE. The core Puritan zonez.
You had Dutch and Quakers and German farmers north of you before you even got to anywhere Puritan.
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@Monkey:
CHESAPEAKE, lol you're nowhere near New England.
Ironically guess what your region was founded on, it was the South.
Maryland was part of the same Northern South cultural region as Virginia and most of North Carolina.
So only recently have you been absorbed into the Northeast. So…uh...you're original home is a perfect example of change over time.Puritan historical basis begins north of NYC. All of New England + upstate NY for the NE. The core Puritan zonez.
You had Dutch and Quakers and German farmers north of you before you even got to anywhere Puritan.
Well, I know that MD is founded on South values, but it's also about as far south as you can go and still get that northern feel. And vice versa.
But, still, the point I'm trying to make is that all of those values from the Puritans, Quakers (these are the guys that I kind of identify with), what have you, are still around. Slow cultural change, amirite?
Or maybe I'm completely wrong and by 2100 we'll all be Spacers.
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Summary: Yes, most people do have a racial preference.
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Summary: Yes, most people do have a racial preference.
Yeah I don't buy that whatsoever.
Imagine trying the same line of argument for musical preferences, with the same attached suggestion that there was something inherent about THAT as opposed to experience basis.If you grow up surrounded by an image you will be familiar with it, and you will be attracted to it.
If not? You will have to get used to the unfamiliarity, but you can damn well be just as attracted to it.
You're probably well attuned to basic pop rock right? Well if I threw you right into the thick of a modal jazz record you wouldn't expect to hit the ground running right?Add on the social factors of people worrying about being seen with such and such for such and such reason and that throws even more monkey wrenches into it.
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I don't see it as inherent either. It's exactly as you say. Dependent on social factors and the environment you are raised in. A lot if not most people do find a multitude of races just as good looking as the other but they might prefer to be with a certain one because of a multitude of factors. 1 being comfortability and how others perceive them. I don't think that video is just about "looks" though that's the easy surface issue.
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Some people prefer shoes. Must be genetics.
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^ To wear or eat them?
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Yes .
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Sheesh, not everything is genetics Wagomu~
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Sheesh, not everything is genetics Wagomu~
Are you suggesting that I am not genetically part goat in my soul?
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Are you suggesting that I am not genetically part goat in my soul?
Oh no, of course not, but if you're having identity issues on whether or not you're more man than goat then take pleasure in knowing that people accept you for who you are.
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it's pretty much a critical period and post critical period thing in regards to the racial preference.
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it's pretty much a critical period and post critical period thing in regards to the racial preference.
Doesn't that suggest you need to have gained it at a young age? If so I call nonsense.