He is the reason why Smiley is dead. :cwy:
he is also the reason why it was alive in the first place though
edit:damn,beaten
He is the reason why Smiley is dead. :cwy:
he is also the reason why it was alive in the first place though
edit:damn,beaten
I dont know if anyone said this, but i think big mom is the ship.
Big Mom was 3 days away from Fishman Island and only 1 day had passed since.
I really doubt she's there. It would cause a plothole.
Big Mom was 3 days away from Fishman Island and only 1 day had passed since.
I really doubt she's there. It would cause a plothole.
well thats a point
i swear big mom's maiden ship give me the creeps. just look at the eyes of that figure head lol. even though they are so close to sunny with that figure head that can see and track target, they still keep on missing lol. talk about terrible shot
Big Mom was 3 days away from Fishman Island and only 1 day had passed since.
I really doubt she's there. It would cause a plothole.
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Big Mom was 3 days away from Fishman Island and only 1 day had passed since.
I really doubt she's there. It would cause a plothole.
Well, 2 days not 1. But yes, even if that ship is so big to be her main ship, I don't think she's aboard.
(To clouddreams)
Didnt they only know that because the marines shouted it during aces execution?
I dont think that Big Mom is on that ship. I doubt that Lola's mother is Big Mom.
Why isn't she on the ship? Pekoms and Tomago said "Mommy" without a Den Den mushi. So she may actually be there. People also mentioning stuff about being three days away.. well this is One Piece and anything is possible, she should have already been on the move.
Well, 2 days not 1. But yes, even if that ship is so big to be her main ship, I don't think she's aboard.
Yeah, my mistake.
Still doesn't add up, though.
Theory: Caribou's cover story will lead into a cover story with the straw hats.
@LaFF:
Why isn't she on the ship? Pekoms and Tomago said "Mommy" without a Den Den mushi. So she may actually be there. People also mentioning stuff about being three days away.. well this is One Piece and anything is possible, she should have already been on the move.
Somebody else could have been holding the Den Den Mushi instead.
The Tea Party also seems more important than anything else. Why would she be on the move?
I dunno, I feel like a yonkou would be able to keep that a secret to. But it would be harder for a woman to. And lola's pretty weak.
Yeah, my mistake.
Still doesn't add up, though.
Was it really 2 days? Didn't the whole BM incident happen during the next morning, after the banquet?
Theory: Caribou's cover story will lead into a cover story with the straw hats.
I'm pretty sure what's happening here is that X. Drake is with Kadiou (he came there two years ago and attacked the cyborg guy and now we find out the cyborg guy is alive and Drake is protecting the island with him… makes me think he wanted Kaidou's attention so he could join his crew, otherwise his actions make no sense)
so he'll bring Caribou to Kaidou, and in an effort to save his life Caribou will tell Kadiou about the mermaid princess being the ancient weapon Poseidon, and Kadiou will go to steal her
now we know fishman islands under Big Moms territory so that means there will have to be a war between Big Mom and Kadiou, meaning we will have two Yonko's going against each other
This arc is the biggest clusterfuck of named characters in One Piece History. I counted about 55 and even then, that not all of them.
This arc is the biggest clusterfuck of named characters in One Piece History. I counted about 55 and even then, that not all of them.
makes you wonder how it's all gonna go down, and when all hell will break lose
i doubt it that the big mom herself is on the ship but who knows..
So am I correct in understanding that Sanji's going to fire back at Big Mom's ship and actually engage in combat against them?
I'm someone who thinks very highly of Pekomz and Baron Tamago…so I kinda think one of those two will be enough to take down Sunny members at the moment.
Any ideas on this?
Sorry I haven't read the rapidly increasing pages of this thread...
So am I correct in understanding that Sanji's going to fire back at Big Mom's ship and actually engage in combat against them?
I'm someone who thinks very highly of Pekomz and Baron Tamago…so I kinda think one of those two will be enough to take down Sunny members at the moment.
Any ideas on this?Sorry I haven't read the rapidly increasing pages of this thread...
If you really think that just one of them could take down the Sunny's currently present crew members, then you're severely underestimating Sanji and co.
Does nami have caesar's heart? if so they could use his logia ability to defend against big mom
pekoms and tamago striked me as fodder, not division commanders?
If you really think that just one of them could take down the Sunny's currently present crew members, then you're severely underestimating Sanji and co.
Well, Pekomz did one shot k.o Caribou and I think that gives him at least on par with Sanji.
Okay, maybe one of them isn't enough. Two of them then.
Somehow I feel Tamago is stronger than Pekomz.
I'm pretty sure what's happening here is that X. Drake is with Kadiou (he came there two years ago and attacked the cyborg guy and now we find out the cyborg guy is alive and Drake is protecting the island with him… makes me think he wanted Kaidou's attention so he could join his crew, otherwise his actions make no sense)
so he'll bring Caribou to Kaidou, and in an effort to save his life Caribou will tell Kadiou about the mermaid princess being the ancient weapon Poseidon, and Kadiou will go to steal her
now we know fishman islands under Big Moms territory so that means there will have to be a war between Big Mom and Kadiou, meaning we will have two Yonko's going against each other
I finished reading that and immediately thought "Oh damn."
That would be fantastic and quite frankly something I could see happening.
I feel Sanji is Pekoms/Tamago level, certainly not enough for both. Maybe they Coup de Burst to Zou and Law's crew joins the fight? Pekoms vs. Bepo please.
Well, Pekomz did one shot k.o Caribou and I think that gives him at least on par with Sanji.
Okay, maybe one of them isn't enough. Two of them then.
Somehow I feel Tamago is stronger than Pekomz.
I think you're really underestimating Sanji. I mean he wouldn't be taking them head on if he was about to get whooped. And that's just Sanji. He still has some of his crew with him, who also shouldn't be underestimated either.
@LordEnel:
pekoms and tamago striked me as fodder, not division commanders?
Pekoms has a 330 Million bounty, Zoan ability, Haki and one-shotted Caribou. The implication is that he's stronger than any of the present Straw Hats but Sanji.
Tamago is probably even stronger too.
Also, there's no guarantee that an actual fight will happen. Sanji's strategy so far is to simply counterfire.
I always put Tamago and Pekoms as the Brooke and Chopper of Big Moms crew, so a good amount below her best commanders like Bobbins, 3eyes, etc, but not the weakest commanders. That said, I believe Sanji could take 1 down, and put up a really good fight against both. He might need some help from Ceasar to win against both. The rest of the curlyhats need to keep the sunny safe.
I feel Sanji is Pekoms/Tamago level, certainly not enough for both. Maybe they Coup de Burst to Zou and Law's crew joins the fight? Pekoms vs. Bepo please.
If Heart Pirates make a sudden appearance, that would just be so fucking awesome.
They could use coup de burst right next to the ship to make a hole while getting out. They would also mention Zou so that the ship would follow them and leave Dressrosa alone. Then at Zou Sanji beat one of the 2 fighters one of Law's guy beat the second and the rest beat the ones on the ship.Or Sanji get on board with Ceasar and they sabotage the ship and lure them to Zou.
I just want some instructions on how to cook some delicious turtle meat.
I dunno about Momonosuke, I'm thinking the deal with him might be separate from the whole Dragon fruit thing.
The people looking after the kids didn't even know he had turned into a dragon until like 30 minutes before shit started going down on the island :wassat:
I think you're really underestimating Sanji. I mean he wouldn't be taking them head on if he was about to get whooped. And that's just Sanji. He still has some of his crew with him, who also shouldn't be underestimated either.
I just think he's being too reckless at the moment. He may have found some weak spot on Big Mom's ship (as Sanji is clever at those things), but engaging in combat is just out of question.
His crew is indeed with him, but they're sweating so much in fear I don't know if they'll do anything useful.
Perhaps he's just planning a hit and run. Shoot some cannons, burst out of there.
Somebody else could have been holding the Den Den Mushi instead.
The Tea Party also seems more important than anything else. Why would she be on the move?
I think Ceaser is more important to them. Currently the Strawhats semm to be pretty weak to them.
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I dunno about Momonosuke, I'm thinking the deal with him might be separate from the whole Dragon fruit thing.
The people looking after the kids didn't even know he had turned into a dragon until like 30 minutes before shit started going down on the island :wassat:
Wano is probably under Kaido control, Momonusuke has some sort of importance apparently to the island that we don't know of yet. This may also be a part of his "Master Plan" if that's what it's called, i think in the end he just wants to take down Kaido, he's getting everything planned out.
If Big Mom's crew follows Sanji and co., I have a feeling they could meet up with the Heart Pirates and then it turns into two crews against one, with BM's ships leaving unless they have a lot more commanders than just 3-4 (or two).
I just think he's being too reckless at the moment. He may have found some weak spot on Big Mom's ship (as Sanji is clever at those things), but engaging in combat is just out of question.
His crew is indeed with him, but they're sweating so much in fear I don't know if they'll do anything useful.Perhaps he's just planning a hit and run. Shoot some cannons, burst out of there.
I can agree with that. Sanji's strong but he definitely can't take on that whole ship by himself…...he just looked so much like a beast in that panel...I felt for minute that he can do anything xD. I like the idea of Law's crew showing up to help.
I can agree with that. Sanji's strong but he definitely can't take on that whole ship by himself…...he just looked so much like a beast in that panel...I felt for minute that he can do anything xD. I like the idea of Law's crew showing up to help.
Yep, it is true when a crew member says he'll or she'll do something, they usually do get it done.
They could use coup de burst right next to the ship to make a hole while getting out. They would also mention Zou so that the ship would follow them and leave Dressrosa alone. Then at Zou Sanji beat one of the 2 fighters one of Law's guy beat the second and the rest beat the ones on the ship.Or Sanji get on board with Ceasar and they sabotage the ship and lure them to Zou.
I think that Law's crew has some sort of problem with themselves, i think it would be the next problem on the next Arc, there is something that Law hasnt't actually said about his crew. I would like to know how Luffy, Zoro, Kinemon etc. will get off the island if the rest go to Zou via coup de burst. I'd say after the next 3 weeks of chapters we may see a way out, it all depends on what Big Mom does, Fujitora and the marines do (whether they withdraw or not).
But yeah, give it time, there is no point discussing it now since we don't know enough yet.
If there any ATLA fans out there, I can't believe that it took me until now to realize that Pekoms is a Lion Turtle.
I love One Piece.
Yep, it is true when a crew member says he'll or she'll do something, they usually do get it done.
Not really, it make take time or possibly foreshadow that actually happen in a different time and area. Luffy thought he could beat Lucci in the palace at water 7, he said he would but he lost but came back a lot lot later and took him down in Enies Lobby. This may be the case with Doflamingo, I don't think Fujitora will actually help Doflamingo because the fact that he said he would make a verdict just makes it pretty much obvious that Fujitora won't accept Doflamingos proposition.
Doflamingo said to Luffy to stay out of this affair, he doesn't want Luffy and crew to be involved so he may let them off at the palace or something similar and somehow Law may get into SH's hands. I won't get into detail because i don't want to make vague assumptions.
As for Sanji he may shine a little bit depending on whether or not there are stronger people on Big Moms ship.
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I just want some instructions on how to cook some delicious turtle meat.
Resorting to cannibalism for the Strawhats would be quite interesting, whether or not it is cannibalism that's a different story :ninja:
@krule274:
If there any ATLA fans out there, I can't believe that it took me until now to realize that Pekoms is a Lion Turtle.
I love One Piece.
Oh God I didn't even think of that. Well done. Now I love Pekoms even more!
For all the naysayers, here is proof that big mum isnt on that ship. Do you see that Den Den mushi?
For all the naysayers, here is proof that big mum isnt on that ship. Do you see that Den Den mushi?
…that's a guy in a hat you goof.