Chapter 730: "3 Cards"
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Well other than the fact that he can turn it inverse and make things float, which we never saw with the KiloKilo (although it may have been possible to give things like, negative weight? Not a real thing, but fantasy world soooo).
The main character of UQ Holder has a sword with variable gravity, I hope that this doesn't hurt the popularity of UQ given the similarity.
Well yeah if Miss Valentine lowered her weight enough she'd be lighter than the elements in the air, allowing her to float. Just like Helium particles.
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Yeah there's a doctor coming, so it's fine to go all out and pull down a meteor into a town full of innocent civilians…
Fuji was quite clearly not using his full power, hell probably not even half.
I'm not saying he's using full power (Zoro isn't either) but he's power consist on gravity + swordsmanship, he either fight applying gravity to his opponent which is a huge advantage or decides to pull meteors down to Zoro which we know they will only be cut in one or more parts by him and I'm just pointing out what the guy requested, If he requested all that medical team is because he, himself knows that more than one civilian will be injured at the end of this battle
Any comment about Zoro actually overcoming the gravitational pull with pure strength, you agree on that then?
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There are differences in power but those ranks (Vice Admiral and Admiral) are different and it also depends where you are stationed ie: A new World captain should be able to take care of a paradise Commodore or fight in equal terms with a rear admiral
I see it the same way.
@Roronoa:So, there are 2 types of rank Systems: The MHQ on GL and the other Units from the Blues. I hope I could help you.
I should give the manga a second read because a lot of stuff isn't fresh in my mind. Didn't know that. Thanks.
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Anyone thinks as well that Sanji looks a lot like Shanks with the hair and the cape now?
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Well other than the fact that he can turn it inverse and make things float, which we never saw with the KiloKilo (although it may have been possible to give things like, negative weight? Not a real thing, but fantasy world soooo).
The main character of UQ Holder has a sword with variable gravity, I hope that this doesn't hurt the popularity of UQ given the similarity.
Actually Valentine used the Kilokilo to "float" herself somewhat right before slamming herself into Ussop at Little Garden.
Also it is not confirmed, but some folks think that Fuji's sword rather than Fuji has the gravity fruit due to him constantly wielding it whenever he uses the gravity powers.
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I do find it impressive that Zoro managed to break free and launch a counter attack towards Fujitora. However, as impressive as it was, I feel that jumping to the conclusion, Zoro is admiral level is a bit exaggerated.
ME, myself I'm not on the Zoro is admiral level bandwagon but the guys was shown to be able to handle this situation pretty well and is not similar to Sanji's Dofla situation as people wants to make it seen
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ME, myself I'm not on the Zoro is admiral level bandwagon but the guys was shown to be able to handle this situation pretty well and is not similar to Sanji's Dofla situation as people wants to make it seen
Sanji has been underwhelming so far, but I feel Oda has something planned for him.
Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship
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So am I right in assuming that Fuji has something similar to the KiloKilo except that he can manipulate the relative gravity of other objects instead of himself?
I think it's more that he can create gravitational fields rather than change the effect of gravity on objects.
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ME, myself I'm not on the Zoro is admiral level bandwagon but the guys was shown to be able to handle this situation pretty well and is not similar to Sanji's Dofla situation as people wants to make it seen
It's pretty much as similar as two situations can be without being copy pastes.
What's arguable is along the lines of was it 97% alike, or 98% alike
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Sanji has been underwhelming so far, but I feel Oda has something planned for him.
Like I said on the Mera Mera thread, Oda has been doing all this on purpose, so we don't make a WTF face when Sanji eats the Mera 2x
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ME, myself I'm not on the Zoro is admiral level bandwagon but the guys was shown to be able to handle this situation pretty well and is not similar to Sanji's Dofla situation as people wants to make it seen
They are pretty much the same. The only difference is that Fujitora isn't interested in killing Zoro.
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Sanji has been underwhelming so far, but I feel Oda has something planned for him.
How is sanji underwhelming so far, i don't understand it. Nobody from the strawhats besides luffy hasn't show anything special since the TS or anything. Sanji never had a serious battle with anyone since the TS and neither did zoro. When he fought with Vergo the battle was interrupted ( he had a crack on his bone but that doesn't mean he would have lost it) and y i would say he is not any match for Doflaming (if we assume that law is near luffy and he had no chance unless doflaming knows law weakness and that put law in such a disadvantage ) but in that situation he got caught in his ability because he didn't know how it worked nor what it is.
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- Dolfa praised hims twice as well
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Wow, what a chapter, for me it was the best chapter in Dressrosa, like, I don't even know what to think, the fact that Big Mom showed up from nowhere, Oda just completely threw me off there. I like the fact that a part of the crew is going to Zou, it's different and exciting, anyways, great great chapter of One Piece this week.
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Actually Valentine used the Kilokilo to "float" herself somewhat right before slamming herself into Ussop at Little Garden.
Also it is not confirmed, but some folks think that Fuji's sword rather than Fuji has the gravity fruit due to him constantly wielding it whenever he uses the gravity powers.
She used it and then jumped, so it's a little different, since in this chapter we see fuji just floating in place. But he can just make the rock have 0 weight so it floats so no issues there. Also I doubt it, that would be pretty rude of Oda the make something so similar to UQ.
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It's pretty much as similar as two situations can be without being copy pastes.
What's arguable is along the lines of was it 97% alike, or 98% alike
Why was it alike?
Sanji DJ attacked > Doflamingo blocked > Sanji DJ attacked (named attack) > Doflamingo dodged pretty easy > Doflamingo atacked > Sanji noticed something > got hit > Sanji recovers > Sanji attacked double DJ (Named attack) > Doflamingo blocked with his coat (most likely Armament Haki) > Doflamingo froze Sanji's movements > overheat > Law interfere
Zoro runs toward Doflamingo > Isso interfere > Isso use gravity > Zoro falls down the hole > Zoro overcome gravity > Air slash > Isso steps back
(1) Doflamingo was toying with Sanji while Sanji was desperate trying to hit Doflamingo, Sanji lost his fight
(2) Isso blocked and apply heavy weight to Zoro and Zoro got back up and running making the guy step back due to the air slash while overcoming his gravity
(3) Both make a similar comment - similar -
I'm not saying he's using full power (Zoro isn't either) but he's power consist on gravity + swordsmanship, he either fight applying gravity to his opponent which is a huge advantage or decides to pull meteors down to Zoro which we know they will only be cut in one or more parts by him and I'm just pointing out what the guy requested, If he requested all that medical team is because he, himself knows that more than one civilian will be injured at the end of this battle
Any comment about Zoro actually overcoming the gravitational pull with pure strength, you agree on that then?
He's requested a medical team because there's gonna be chaos on the island, not because he himself is gonna cause the chaos.
So Zoro will just cut meteors up no problem? That attack put a look of fear on goddamn Doffy's face, I don't think we know for a fact that Zoro would simply cut them up and carry on.
I'll give you it though, I missed the vibration lines around Zoro on that panel. But since Zoro is never done weight training, it's kind of expected of him to be able to handle that situation.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Useless to agree with this… Soon this thread will be into a Sanji is useless = Mera Mera version 2
as of now Sanji is useless and you should pray that Oda doesn't make Tamago to kick Sanji on the nuts and take him hostage while Nami head to Zou due to Sanji ordering her to set out
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Why was it alike?
Sanji DJ attacked > Doflamingo blocked > Sanji DJ attacked (named attack) > Doflamingo dodged pretty easy > Doflamingo atacked > Sanji noticed something > got hit > Sanji recovers > Sanji attacked double DJ (Named attack) > Doflamingo blocked with his coat (most likely Armament Haki) > Doflamingo froze Sanji's movements > overheat > Law interfere
Zoro runs toward Doflamingo > Isso interfere > Isso use gravity > Zoro falls down the hole > Zoro overcome gravity > Air slash > Isso steps back
(1) Doflamingo was toying with Sanji while Sanji was desperate trying to hit Doflamingo, Sanji lost his fight
(2) Isso blocked and apply heavy weight to Zoro and Zoro got back up and running making the guy step back due to the air slash while overcoming his gravity
(3) Both make a similar comment - similarDoffy was out for blood, sliced Sanji with a move capable of slicing off Oars.Jnr's leg, then immobilised him with an attack that worked on a yonko commander.
Zoro got hit with the same attack Fuji used on the fodder in the casino, then managed a suprise air slash.
Zoro's fight was stopped. Had it continued, he would have also lost lol.
I love that your still going with Sanji for the mera mera btw. It's really cute.
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He's requested a medical team because there's gonna be chaos on the island, not because he himself is gonna cause the chaos.
So Zoro will just cut meteors up no problem? That attack put a look of fear on goddamn Doffy's face, I don't think we know for a fact that Zoro would simply cut them up and carry on.
I'm not saying the meteors won't put a WTF face on him but that doesn't mean that he will just froze and received it with open arms, my poing is Isso's power seems more user while he apply it to his opponent directly and not when he throws meteors at them also so he will let the chaos go on, he and his mans will be a big reason for that chaos
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Doffy was out for blood, sliced Sanji with a move capable of slicing off Oars.Jnr's leg, then immobilised him with an attack that worked on a yonko commander.
Zoro got hit with the same attack Fuji used on the fodder in the casino, then managed a suprise air slash.
Zoro's fight was stopped. Had it continued, he would have also lost lol.
I love that your still going with Sanji for the mera mera btw. It's really cute.
Sanji got played, it doesn't mater how you look at the situation, Isso ability consist on gravity, what do you want him to do? to pee? and If you go back you won't see a post where I say that would have win that fight lol
Of course I'm still going with Sanji for the Mera 2x unless you're seeing somebody taking it, then please enlighten me because as of NOW nobody knows what the hell is going to happen on this arc
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I think fujitora fans are the worst , every attack he does ,they praise him like he is pirate king level
Old admirals are alot stronger than the new ones. Do u really think fujitora can battle with whitebeard equally? Old admirals could, fujitora i think never
awful, its just awful to read
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Why was it alike?
Sanji DJ attacked > Doflamingo blocked > Sanji DJ attacked (named attack) > Doflamingo dodged pretty easy > Doflamingo atacked > Sanji noticed something > got hit > Sanji recovers > Sanji attacked double DJ (Named attack) > Doflamingo blocked with his coat (most likely Armament Haki) > Doflamingo froze Sanji's movements > overheat > Law interfere
Zoro runs toward Doflamingo > Isso interfere > Isso use gravity > Zoro falls down the hole > Zoro overcome gravity > Air slash > Isso steps back
(1) Doflamingo was toying with Sanji while Sanji was desperate trying to hit Doflamingo, Sanji lost his fight
(2) Isso blocked and apply heavy weight to Zoro and Zoro got back up and running making the guy step back due to the air slash while overcoming his gravity
(3) Both make a similar comment - similarOk there is no point of arguing with you, live in the clouds.
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I'm not saying the meteors won't put a WTF face on him but that doesn't mean that he will just froze and received it with open arms, my poing is Isso's power seems more user while he apply it to his opponent directly and not when he throws meteors at them also so he will let the chaos go on, he and his mans will be a big reason for that chaos
I'm kinda having a hard time interpreting what the hell your saying, I'm going to be honest. You're allowed to use more than one sentence a post bud.
I don't really get the distinction you're making between the meteor and the gravity attack. Fuji is in complete control of both of them. But he couldn't use his strongest attacks while fighting Zoro, and to be honest it didn't seem like he would have wanted to.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Ok there is no point of arguing with you, live in the clouds.
Dude I'm not even arguing with you… WTF
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I'm not saying the meteors won't put a WTF face on him but that doesn't mean that he will just froze and received it with open arms, my poing is Isso's power seems more user while he apply it to his opponent directly and not when he throws meteors at them also so he will let the chaos go on, he and his mans will be a big reason for that chaos
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Sanji got played, it doesn't mater how you look at the situation, Isso ability consist on gravity, what do you want him to do? to pee? and If you go back you won't see a post where I say that would have win that fight lol
Of course I'm still going with Sanji for the Mera 2x unless you're seeing somebody taking it, then please enlighten me because as of NOW nobody knows what the hell is going to happen on this arc
Got played in the same way Luffy got played by Caesar, yeah I suppose he did. Doesn't indicate weakness.
You made the distinction of "Sanji lost his fight" as if that would have been different with Zoro Vs. Fuji.
Lol well Sanji is now heading out to Zou, Luffy is leaving the arena to rescue Law. He may leave it to Barto to get it but it's just looking less and less likely that Sanji will even get a chance to see the mera mera, never mind eating it. Meanwhile, Burgess' chances just keep going up.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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I'm kinda having a hard time interpreting what the hell your saying, I'm going to be honest. You're allowed to use more than one sentence a post bud.
I don't really get the distinction you're making between the meteor and the gravity attack. Fuji is in complete control of both of them. But he couldn't use his strongest attacks while fighting Zoro, and to be honest it didn't seem like he would have wanted to.
Isso's power is based on gravity unless you think that he can use something else besides Gravity on his opponent then tell me because I'm curious on what other ability you're seeing in him that will make Zoro useless
Of course Zoro will also make a WTF face when he sees a meteor being redirected at him, will he let the meteor hit him? not
You people keep talking and talking but I'm not seeing nothing new, he use the same ability that he used against some fodder on the restaurant, should he use something else against Zoro when his power is based on that same ability and apparently is his strong suit?
Is that clear enough for you, good sir
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I suppose for Sanji to be redeemed fighting-wise.
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Kizaru is also an old admiral.
They didn't get overwhelmed except maybe Akainu but he took half of Whitebeard face.
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I don't see why Jimbei would appear here. He has business with Big Mom herself which isn't here.
You have no fucking clue if she's there or not
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Hey im kinda new here but arn't we over-hyping the gravitational pull on the meteors? There is total weightlessness in space so it would only take a minor pull to direct even the biggest meteors. I'm more impressed with the CoO to divert the meteor towards the intended target, the earths own gravitational pull would accelerate the meteor to a devastating top speed! All i saw was a pretty even skirmish between zoro and fuji with us seeing neither of them show their true power so its impossible to say who is the stronger, maybe fuji's DF is awesome but maybe zoro's knowledge as a fighter, reflexes and incredible brute strength can find a way around it? Who knows until it happens eh?
Incredible chapter for me all round! I'm a big fan of the jimei re-introduction to the series and i think this is perfect for that and i also like the idea of momo being a major player in Wanokuni as a lot of emperors from ancient china were children.
You guys can really put a good story together even if you can't all agree on them! BM being Lola's mother is another clever idea that i hope happens, it'd be interesting to see if BM would forgive SH's because they saved her daughter or if she really is so ruthless she doesnt care and tries to kill them all!
Either way the straw hats can't start falling against admirals or warlords or what was the point in the time skip and what was the point in coming to the new world, Zoro to beat Fuji and Luffy to beat Doffy for me! -
"Oh, oh no, see, Zoro is soooo much stronger than Sanji, don't you read the manga?!" - come on, folks. Seriously? There's no point whatsoever in this discussion. If Zoro had been the one intercepting Doffy when attacking the ship and Sanji was with Kinemon now, the fight results would have been the exact same. It's plot purpose, not power display. If you REALLY want to get into this then wait for a fight that actually finishes.
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Got played in the same way Luffy got played by Caesar, yeah I suppose he did. Doesn't indicate weakness.
You made the distinction of "Sanji lost his fight" as if that would have been different with Zoro Vs. Fuji.
Lol well Sanji is now heading out to Zou, Luffy is leaving the arena to rescue Law. He may leave it to Barto to get it but it's just looking less and less likely that Sanji will even get a chance to see the mera mera, never mind eating it. Meanwhile, Burgess' chances just keep going up.
It would have been different, Sanji attacked like three time (named attacks) and Doflamingo just went jam on him, while Isso applied gravity and Zoro overcome it and attacked, now do you think that Zoro would have been played by Doflamingo like that and that Sanji would have overcome the Gravity like Zoro did?
Zoro would have lost his fight but not like you people are trying to make it seen, there was no way for Luffy to sense such an ability with Observation Haki while Sanji sense i that the attack was coming and even after that he got hit
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"Oh, oh no, see, Zoro is soooo much stronger than Sanji, don't you read the manga?!" - come on, folks. Seriously? There's no point whatsoever in this discussion. If Zoro had been the one intercepting Doffy when attacking the ship and Sanji was with Kinemon now, the fight results would have been the exact same. It's plot purpose, not power display. If you REALLY want to get into this then wait for a fight that actually finishes.
- nice post, but for most people it's much more fun to made up things in their mind then to take a objective look on them
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Isso's power is based on gravity unless you think that he can use something else besides Gravity on his opponent then tell me because I'm curious on what other ability you're seeing in him that will make Zoro useless
Of course Zoro will also make a WTF face when he sees a meteor being redirected at him, will he let the meteor hit him? not
You people keep talking and talking but I'm not seeing nothing new, he used the same ability that he used against some fodder on the restaurant, should he use something else against Zoro when his power based on that same ability and is his strong suit?
Is that clear enough for you, good sir
Well for one I severely doubt an admiral class fighter has 2 attacks. Secondly, do you really think that was the limit of Fuji's gravity powers when he was subduing Zoro? Thirdly, yes because it would be entirely Zoro's choice whether or not to be hit by a meteor. He just has to say nah not getting hit by this and he'll instantly be fine.
How about 2 meteors? 3? We have no idea how many Fuji can throw down if he wants to. Ah but I suppose that'll just be another easy dodge for Zoro. This is also without us even seeing any of Fuji's actual SWORD skills. He's most likely a master. Combine that with increased gravity, meteors and whatever else Fuji has up his sleeve.
It was marginally more clear but you still need to invest in some punctuation, my good fellow.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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If Big mom is on the ship ( probably not ) we can assume that the KAH alliance is coming
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It would have been different, Sanji attacked like three time (named attacks) and Doflamingo just went jam on him, while Isso applied gravity and Zoro overcome it and attacked, now do you think that Zoro would have been played by Doflamingo like that and that Sanji would have overcome the Gravity like Zoro did?
Zoro would have lost his fight but not like you people are trying to make it seen, there was no way for Luffy to sense such an ability with Observation Haki while Sanji sense i that the attack was coming and even after that he got hit
Lol you really think Doffy would have had any more trouble with Zoro than he had with Sanji? This is a guy who walked through Marineford unscathed. He 's a total beast. Since Jozu got "played" by Doffy like that, as did Sanji, then yeah, somehow I think Zoro would have been caught too. If you don't then I really don't know what's going through your head.
Luffy got caught by an unknown ability, just like Sanji did. Sure Sanji might have sensed something, but he was already immobilised in an instant. Just like Luffy could have, I dunno, noticed that he couldn't breathe? Then it was too late. You're making distinctions between two identical situations because Luffy losing doesn't suit your little theory about Sanji being too weak. End of story.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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do you believe that sabo will make an appearance in this ark??
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Dragon appears as one of Doflamingo's toys?? where did you see that??
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Well for one I severely doubt an admiral class fighter has 2 attacks. Secondly, do you really think that was the limit of Fuji's gravity powers when he was subduing Zoro? Thirdly, yes because it would be entirely Zoro's choice whether or not to be hit by a meteor. He just has to say nah not getting hit by this and he'll instantly be fine.
How about 2 meteors? 3? We have no idea how many Fuji can throw down if he wants to. Ah but I suppose that'll just be another easy dodge for Zoro. This is also without us even seeing any of Fuji's actual SWORD skills. He's most likely a master. Combine that with increased gravity, meteors and whatever else Fuji has up his sleeve.
It was marginally more clear but you still need to invest in some punctuation, my good fellow.
He has to have more attacks but those attack should be based on his gravity power, I don't think that it was his limit but he's not invincible there's always a way to win against a powerful fighter, so this one having a gravity ability doesn't mean much and If he doesn't get hit then is fine, which I don't think he'll get hit by a meteor.
Fujitora can pull 5 meteors and somebody will still find a way to overcome it, so now you're not gonna based your points in his meteors but I already said that didn't I?
you people keep using his meteors as the base of his strength when is pretty clear that his power is gravity and it will be more effective when he uses it in close combat
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Why do some of you keep saying that the gravity is the inverse of the kil kilo fruit? They have nothing to do with one an other!
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He has to have more attacks but those attack should be based on his gravity power, I don't think that it was his limit but he's not invincible there's always a way to win against a powerful fighter, so this one having a gravity ability doesn't mean much and If he doesn't get hit then is fine, which I don't think he'll get hit by a meteor.
Fujitora can pull 5 meteors and somebody will still find a way to overcome it, so now you're not gonna based your points in his meteors but I already said that didn't I?
you people keep using his meteors as the base of his strength when is pretty clear that his power is gravity and it will be more effective when he uses it in close combat
Eh how do you think he gets the meteors?…Gravity. They are also gravity based.
I'm saying his meteor attack has been the strongest we've seen so far, which is entirely true. It's also an attack he didn't use against Zoro.
After that I can only speculate but he will obviously have more up his sleeve.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Zoro can face Fujitora.
Luffy's first NW equal opponent isn't Doflamingo, but Big Mom. Doflamingo might be troublesome but that's all.I just wanna say this before the arc ends so i can be laughed at if i'm wrong.
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It just looks like he jumped out to me. No idication that he was still under the effects of the gravity at all.
lol like TheStoner said, there was no indication he was still under the effects of the gravity. How about you stop lying about me lying to convince the users that think differently?
Page 8, last panel: Zoro is clearly under the effects of Fujitora's gravity.
Page 9, first panel: Fujitora senses Zoro's attack
Page 9 second panel: Fujitora blocks the attackAnd lying may sound too strong, but it's fair to assume nothing special happens between two consecutive panels…
@RobZilla:Eh how do you think he gets the meteors?…Gravity. They are also gravity based.
I'm saying his meteor attack has been the strongest we've seen so far, which is entirely true. It's also an attack he didn't use against Zoro.
After that I can only speculate but he will obviously have more up his sleeve.
And so does Zoro.
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@LordEnel:
Why do some of you keep saying that the gravity is the inverse of the kil kilo fruit? They have nothing to do with one an other!
The fruits are both used to increase the downward speed of an object or person. Just in inverted ways.
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Dragon appears as one of Doflamingo's toys?? where did you see that??
No-one has mentioned Dragon in a while. The only possible explanation is that he was turned into a toy and everyone forgot about him.
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Eh how do you think he gets the meteors?…Gravity. They are also gravity based.
I'm saying his meteor attack has been the strongest we've seen so far, which is entirely true. It's also an attack he didn't use against Zoro.
After that I can only speculate but he will obviously have more up his sleeve.
In my opinion, it's much easier escaping a meteor, then a direct gravity hit.
Zoro can face Fujitora.
The Luffy's first NW equal opponent isn't Doflamingo, but Big Mom. Doflamingo might be troublesome but that's all.I just wanna say this before the arc ends so i can be laughed at if i'm wrong.
Doflamingo has been hyped so much, that I can hardly see Luffy winning 1 vs 1. Doflamingo is a proper villain, dunno what you're on about.
