Im shipping Zoro vs Drake, only cause of the " Even if a dino steps on it it wouldnt break" comment from zoro regarding Shusui. Nah, jk.
When did he said that?
Im shipping Zoro vs Drake, only cause of the " Even if a dino steps on it it wouldnt break" comment from zoro regarding Shusui. Nah, jk.
When did he said that?
@Monkey:
I can't believe you people are completely ignoring this page:
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/727/14
it's obvious Riku didn't believe Doflamingo would actually keep his promise, he was planning to take out Doflamingo with the dynamite so that the money could be given back after the incident.
Yes. Take out a Shichibukia who managed to strong arm the WG with a stick of dynamite.
You make a good point, he clearly didn't trust Doflamingo but his actions are still incredibly stupid.
Well… To be fair... I don't think that they would have been able to successfully ward off Doflamingo and his droogs.
Well, yeah, but that still doesn't make his attitude any less dumb. Vivi on the other hand was willing to fight Crocodile on her own despite the huge gap in strength.
@CCC:
Yup. Check the final two page spread of this week's chapter. Colosseum is right up against the palace's mesa.
And I think the "beach house" is the palace.
Updated to include capital city:
http://i.imgur.com/pdjXGGJ.jpg
Awesome, great work. This certainly helps understand the situation a tad better.
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Still banking on Rebecca loosing block D.
Hopefully it's bloody.
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Or maybe you should come to the realization that you're reading a comic book for children.
Except that the majority of the audience by quite a massive margin is 18 or older.
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My thoughts and impressions:
1. X-Drake is obviously an underling of Kaido and it fits perfectly with his DF and the whole beast theme of "K". We know how Luffy enjoys dealing with monsters and beasts of all sorts so I´m looking forward to the conflict.
I personally like this development as we have an example of a different approach to deal with the New World beside opposing the Yonkou and most likely failing in the process.
It´d be better if Drake was loyal to Kaido and opposed Luffy + Law instead of being just (no offense) a relatively positive supernova and switching sides at the first opportunity.
2. Rebecca uses an advanced level of surviving this free-for-all by utilizing the strength of an oponent to beat other participants and I´m honestly rooting for her.
People should try to imagine how tough it is to be in her shoes right now, actually since she lost her mom. She grew up as a fugitive and later had to endure the scorn of the population every day of her life. No offense, but compare that to how many of low-esteem young girls today break under the slightest pressure. Hell, the majority of us males would crumble.
Yes she cried and seems to struggle, so what? She still gives her best despite being under immense pressure as most of the audience still boos her (despite Cabbage´s recent speech). This is not about her winning the tournament, it´s about her being brave enough to fight against all odds.
I think her character is admirable and today we came to understand that solving conflicts by avoiding to spill blood until the very end is a somewhat extreme Riku family trait. I get that to most people this concept is very tough to grasp in the current age we live in. This is the author telling us that the world is not just pure good or pure evil. I like that.
3. My opinion at this point is that Toy Soldier is not a Riku. Oda could´ve easily solved this "mystery" by now, but he decided to purposely ignore Usopp pointing to that version in this very chapter, twice.
Also, him willing to lead a revolution against the current leadership might show a slight difference in views compared to Rebecca. Yes there are counter-arguments that it was him who taught her to fight that way and she claimed to want the fruit to defeat Dofla (active opposition), but still. Maybe this is a bit of wishful thinking on my part - that there will be a direct conflict situation where she´s incapable of a "finishing blow", further confirming her innate pure nature and innocence. Becca is actually a "fighter" Shirahoshi who was also pure beyond reason but Shira was the "absorbing" type (not sure how to express what I mean).
4. I didn´t expect this lengthy of a flashback this chapter and my initial reaction wasn´t very joyful, but what needs to be done needs to be done - even after many years, it´s sometimes difficult to accept the "weekly" release schedule with chapters like these were the present plot doesn´t seem to move forward.
5. Talking of tidbits, the whole situation with the audience´s blood lust comes to show how easily the masses are manipulated to a different level of morality within a relatively short time frame.
A very important panel in the chapter showed how an old man responded to his child asking for more food by telling it yes we´re not very rich but we don´t lead wars and enjoy seeing people kill each other. The same kind of people probably sit in the audience asking for blood.
6. That being said, the part with actually collecting the 10 bil didn´t really make much sense to me, it seems like a defeatist way of acting, but it´s mainly because we didn´t know the extent of the king´s knowledge about Doflamingo and his influence.
I think the main problem here for most people is that they didn´t feel the imminent threat of Dofla-caliber individual showing up at your window all of a sudden and threatening your country, even telling you to not ask for aid from other nations.
My issue with the dialogue is that from the past we know that Shichibukai may get a pardon for many things, but as far as I am concerned, their main duty is to dispatch of pirate crews in return for immunity from being targeted by the marines.
From the whole Croc situation (putsch) we know that claiming/overturning countries is a huge no-no. Basically from the WG point of view, I´d say this is no different from what Dragon does (freeing countries from WG´s rule) and we know he´s the most wanted man.
The way I understand it and correct me if I´m wrong, but Dressrosa is part of the WG, so the king should have asked for protection by the marines.
Which brings me to the next point.
5. Doflamingo. We´re getting bits by bits of info about him, but for me it´s still not enough to understand his main goals and motivation.
We learned that he basically blackmailed his own kind to get his position, probably mainly because of his knowledge about how the world works. It´s kind of cheap but in a way brilliant and we know he can back it up by actual fighting prowess.
The part with Dofla puppeteering the king was too obvious that I almost felt like it was unneeded to make the point. Also, way, way too similar to Alabasta and a DF user making the king do atrocious things (really felt like a deja vu). But OK, asking for money all of a sudden without any reasons and then going on a killing spree makes the whole "mad king" story a bit believable.
Well, one thing´s sure. Doflamingo is one of a kind of underworld boss who kept everyone in check (Tenryuubito by stealing their money, marines through the Vergo infiltration and Kaidou through SMILEs). I´m really not the type to praise antagonists, but Dofla definitely knows his s…tuff. He does have a right to own a big co... counqueror´s haki.
That being said, I´m probably among the very few readers who wish that Law, who I´m not a fanboy of, beats him because of their history, so that Luffy doesn´t have to always deal with everyone himself. And no, I´m not ignoring the build up of Doflaming, it´s just that I wish Oda wasn´t forcing himself into a corner to give Luffy a reason to fight every big name. It was already very obvious against CC who Luffy was like oh I´ll catch him just because I was asked to and eventually Oda even made Brownbeard be a motivational factor of all things. I mean, I´d be happy if Luffy destroyed the smug Colosseum "hero" alongside the factory beneath it, keep his promise to himself to protect the fruit from Burgess/BB and then be the main fire-power against Kaidou.
Looking forward to some Barto & Luffy interaction, the reveal of the plan of the counter-attack and initial encounters in the following chapters.
Agree regarding Law and Doflamingo. It's also amusing in a way since both have similarities here and there with one another. Both are quite intelligent, cunning and without a doubt the biggest smug pricks in the series (maybe Croco-man being part of the triumvirate). Obviously Law will lose the first fight, it would be nice if they have a rematch and he wins it. I like Law unlike you, I am a fan, but I would love to see him take down a big name. The same with Kid, it was also interesting seeing Blackbeard do the same but obviously now he is a massive name.
I really want to see Doflamingo humiliated at the end of the arc though, I've been waiting for this for a long time.
I really want to see Doflamingo humiliated at the end of the arc though, I've been waiting for this for a long time.
Me too I hate him.
True, but I don't see how one can explain to the citizens that the king was being controlled by Doflamingo. Unless he himself spills the beans
Former toys will explain the true about Dofla.
Yes. Take out a Shichibukia who managed to strong arm the WG with a stick of dynamite.
You make a good point, he clearly didn't trust Doflamingo but his actions are still incredibly stupid.
How is it stupid if it's hinted he wasn't actually going to obey Doflamingo at all?
Chapter is out, a nice birthday gift I'd say. :ninja:
@Monkey:
How is it stupid if it's hinted he wasn't actually going to obey Doflamingo at all?
except he was and he did?
All I could think about when Dofla took control was that:
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@Monkey:
How is it stupid if it's hinted he wasn't actually going to obey Doflamingo at all?
He obeyed to Dofla. He just thought about what to do if Dofla didn't keep his promise.
Another great chapter… I really felt bad for King Riku The mental anguish alone is enough to drive a person insane so kudos to him for being able to survive all those years with the all hate targeted at him by his own ppl and still trying to make a difference.
Like all mangas/stories/novels the villain ALWAYS has a justification for what he/she has become especially when they are defeated by the main character(s). I really REALLY REALLY DD's justification for being such an ass–--.
drugging kids
slavery
widescale oppression
sadism
The guy literally puts D in Devil
Also… i can't wait to see what the –-- happened to DD in his past to make him what he is today; and what background story that will help justify his current actions as Schibukai (granted Croco, Enel, and quite a few others villains have never had their "background reasons" revealed except for Lucci [which was only partly revealed]).
If Oda-san is already showing DD to be THIS evil fairly early in the 2nd half story, then how truly –-- up are the final enemies' (WG? Tennryu? Pirates? Marines? those yet to be revealed…) crimes and actions? The scale would have to be very significant to put what DD has done up till now as less terrible.
As always, Oda-san has me rife with anticipation for what the story has in store.
I wonder what happened to all that cash.
Chapter is out, a nice birthday gift I'd say. :ninja:
Thank you. And Happy Birthday, buddy! Hope you had/have a good one. (:
DD wasn't threatening? :S I don't see even a little bit how you came to this conclusion, nor how to explain why trusting a pirate no matter who he is on the first meeting makes any sense at all. I am used to Oda's storytelling but the King acted like a 12 year gullible idiot there.
So, which part from this chapter you see DD threatening Riku?
So, which part from this chapter you see DD threatening Riku?
10 billions or I take the country.
10 billions or I take the country.
The country's belong to Donquixote and DD want to take it back, but DD also gave Riku a chance to buy the country. from Riku's reaction, it's clear that DD is the rightful owner. I still don't see it as a threatening.
amazing good chapter but it kinda felt short!?!
I think Riku did what he thought would be the best to maintain the peace his predecessors created.
of course he was too naiv, but it wasnt the time for any descent stratagy against DD.
also from our point of view it really didnt metter what he had done.. the outcome would have been the same nontheless because DD is freaking overpowered..
did he really gain total control of nearly an entire army?! even if it was just a part of rikus men, "parasite" is still ridiculous strong.
drake is bad ass post time skip, finally the cover story is getting somewhere!
Ah, just read. Would serve under Doflamingo, he takes initiative and knows how to get what he wants.
Not as good as the last few chapters, but it's good to see this flashback, or is it a mini flashback? Oda seems to be doing it different this time, dropping little mini-backs throughout the arc. If that's the case it's a welcome change and good to see him try something new.
The country's belong to Donquixote and DD want to take it back, but DD also gave Riku a chance to buy the country. from Riku's reaction, it's clear that DD is the rightful owner. I still don't see it as a threatening.
I can't tell.. but I think you're being serious and if so
I can't tell.. but I think you're being serious and if so
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It will be better if you reread the chapter. If you lucky, you'll find the reason of why Riku's agree to pay the money.
Not bad, I liked it. But only if there's more to come (which seems to be the case).
Contrary to the popular opinion in here, I did like the king's actions; naive to the extreme? Yes. But it seems like that was kinda the point? He feels really guilty about what happened that night, so maybe if he could go back in time, he'd change the way he acted and probably try to blow himself with Dofla from the get go. Although, as its been also pointed, he had no chance at all. But let's go one step at a time.
Lots of quoting ahead, you've been warned:
So clearly the Toy soldier isn't the Prince since we saw the King leaving everything to Tank Lepanto, who seems to have been captain of the royal guard maybe?
I really don't like that the King had to bow down to his vassals to get money that is just too unkingly even Cobra couldn't do such a thing in public it just makes people lose faith in you. What would have happened had they survived Doflamingo everyone would have known about his shameful act which could be percieved as a weakness.
1- If by prince you mean the king's son, I thought it was stated that Scarlett is the king's daughter, so Toy Soldier is his daughter's husband. That in theory makes him the prince too, but not blood related, which I guess is your point. And it's in fact a pretty big mystery that Scarlett and Rebecca lived on their own selling flowers while being daughter and granddaughter of the king. Something is still amiss.
Also, I bet my ass Toy Soldier lived with Scarlett and Rebecca in that house up till the day of the assault, but since that part of the Flashback was told from Rebecca's point of view, and his dad was turned into a toy, she forgot about his existence. So he could've been there the entire time. That we'll know eventually, and also why they left the castle and went to live on their own in relative poverty.
2- I find it kinda classist that you consider a king kneeling to its people a shameful and disgraceful act. I wish kings in real life would be as human as this. The king KNEW this was a completely bonkers request (as noted by Lepanto himself, who's completely sure no one will comply with such a crazy demand), so he went out of his way to BEG the people to just go with it for the moment.
Hell, he offered his limbs in exchange. That's called commitment, and I'd like to see it more often, instead of endless protocols and "kingly" gestures and mannerisms that often hide an uglier truth.
@Light:
I somewhat agree with Timeco. While Riku being desperate and not thinking rationally might be somewhat excusable, I still find it rather annoying and cliched how sappily goody-good and pure-hearted Oda made him out to be. It's almost Vivi I-don't-want-anyone-to-die level of annoying! I mean, he could've at least maintained some dignity had he not gone to his freaking knees and cried help from his underlings. We get it Oda, he loves his people! Riku good, Doffy bad! I'll guess I'll just have to endure it from time to time but good God, have some standards! :getlost:
Same thing. So the "ruining moment" is that Riku went to his knees in order to beg the citizens of his country to cooperate? If anything, that was what CONVINCED the people to actually comply with his demand, as explicitly shown in the chapter.
Also, I don't think fiercely pacifist characters are really THAT common in OP. As said before, Cobra mobilized his troops to stop the rebellion in Alabasta (in fact the conflict escalated into a full blown civil war), Dalton decapitated Wapol on first sight, Gan Fall's first appearance on the manga was clashing with Wiper, Belle-mere was rather belligerent, etc. . . Yeah, Vivi and Otohime were near-saint level, just like Riku, but I don't think that's a bad message to give. Actually, most of Otohime's actions require Steel Ovaries the likes we've rarely seen, and they were all fiercely pacifist in nature, and going ALONE with a CD to Mariejois with the expectations of coming back in perfect health is even more naive than anything we've seen on this chapter, and yet she succeeded.
Doflamingo is the perfect villain for this arc. He has exceeded every expectation but now i wonder what his intentions are.
I somewhat agree with Light Bro. I actually don't care that Riku is beyond purist but how come he didn't take into consideration other possibilities?. It baffles me that he was so trusting and willing to lead Dressrosa to poverty without even trying to find out what he was up against. What i took out of it is that i, a no one, can go to his castle and tell him to give me money or i'll bombard his country, give him an impossible deadline and he will believe my words and do as i say because he doesn't want to fight and without giving thought to the fact that i'm probably bluffing.
Lol, no. The whole point is that Riku KNEW what he was up against! He heard numerous rumors about Dofla, the pirate who assaulted WG ships with tributes to the CD's, who's from the Donquixote lineage, who bribed his Shichibukai title. . .All of that is more than enough info to know that he was in front of one of the most dangerous human beings in the planet. He was given an option of settling things without blood, and the king took that option. Seriously, with Dofla's Curriculum Vitae, facing him even with the entirety of Dressrosa's might would probably be a lost battle; ask the WG for help? Against a newly appointed Shichibukai who's a descendant of one of the 19 WG fundation families? And without any time to ask his allied nations for help?
Yeah, his decision was a crazy one, but he was left with no other option. He was naive in trusting Dofla? He had not much hope to begin with, as seen in the dynamite panel, but he took it and tried to abide to that in the off chance it would work.
How did DoFla fly to the castle when there weren't any clouds in the sky???
Cause the castle is the highest point in the island; he uses clouds when there's nothing else around, and it's pretty hax, but if there's a huge building on top of a hill? He can throw his strings in that building and that's it.
I've been pretty iffy about Dofla as a villain mainly because Law manipulated him before the Dressrosa arc started. In retrospect it's great because Dofla didn't really fall for it and had another plan entirely, but what annoys me the most here are Law's broken abilities. I feel like that takes away from the sense of danger related to Doflamingo. There is a limitation for Law spelled out with the whole stamina thing, but it's too vague and it's bugging me. I don't hate Law at all, but I certainly see all the issues his character brings. This relates to this chapter because Oda did a great job of making Dofla a despicable character here, really want to see this villain shine and his defeat should feel legitimate, that's why I'm so wary of Law.
If anything, when you see Dofla standing atop of a beaten Law, the sense of danger that Dofla gives off (which I think it's already pretty high) will be even bigger. And you know that's exactly what'll happen, right? Or you truly think that Law will defeat Dofla? The final boss of the arc? After Law himself already accepted he'll probably lose? I mean, you seriously expect ANYTHING from Law after explicitly going into this fight with the mindset "I won't be able to see the chaos that your death will bring to the world, but it'll be worth it!"? He's expecting to DIE in this fight! "Wait, did I just win the fight? I killed Doflamingo? Well, that wasn't that dangerous, to be honest. . .we could've cut all the overly complicated, 2 years long plan and just go kick his ass from the get go; now we have an angry Yonkou ready to kill someone's ass for no reason. . .well, I'm outta here!".
Even more; we'll only see the aftermath of Doffy vs Law. Their fight is not even relevant, because Oda himself told us from Law's pov that he's inferior to Doffy.
Stop worrying.
I'm confused why did Dofla need to threaten his way into becoming a Shichibukai? He is a CD (he at least still has strong connections) who is already above a shichibukai in terms of political power. He lets his bounty get to over 300m, he says he can leave the shichibukai anytime he wants but is afraid to do so, if he does leave he'll be in danger despite having CD connections. He's very inconsistent.
Dofla is NOT a CD. It was clearly stated on chapter 723 that he "WAS" a CD. That was even emphasized. We still know little about Doflamingo, and in that same chapter he told Law that he'd love to tell him about "his life from his childhood till he met Law", and that he'd find it difficult to believe that someone could've had a life as "busy" as his. Basically, Oda is telling us that there's way more about him that we don't know, and we'll eventually know all there is to know (cause you don't throw such a MASSIVE cocktease and then don't work on that).
I'm also intrigued as to his behaviour; it seems to me like he doesn't want to use his CD influence, but if there's no other option, he doesn't shy away to move a few strings here and there (pun intended), like we just saw after he alone mobilized the CP-0 guys to basically fool the entire world, Marine Fleet Admiral included.
The naivete in this chapter makes it hard for me to be invested in some of the new characters. King Riku's antics ruined DD's potential as a first class manipulative, scheming and despicable villain. Instead of focusing on all those negative traits and build up DD as a villain who is both manipulative through his fruit and actions, I'm left with the impression Riku contributed more to his kingdom's downfall than any of DD's schemes. I would love to hate DD but finding it hard after this chapter.
Sorry, but I don't get this either. I mean, are you implying that what Dofla did had no merit cause Riku was too naive? Dofla made him ask his citizens for an absurdly massive amount of money, going to such lengths as to publicly kneel and beg for said money, even offering the amputation of his limbs in exchange. And then, after that, he made him personally burn the country and cut down his citizens. You add the whole thing together, and you're left with a king going totally BONKERS overnight, asking for an absurdingly outrageous request immediately followed by a pyromaniac and homicidal rampage through his own country.
How does that hinder Dofla's prowess as an evil asshole? If anything, the whole thing MADE him an even more evil asshole!
I've already stated my reasons above as to why I don't find Riku's actions so mindblowingly stupid as most of you do, so I'm not gonna dwelve on that again; but regardless of what you think of Riku's behaviour, Dofla's actions can't be labeled as anything less than "manipulative, scheming and despicable".
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And I'm sure I forgot some quotes in here. Too tired right now, though.
Bottom line, liked the chapter, I want more flashback next week.
Oh, and while Rebecca's tactic ain't bad. . .I hope sooner or later she'll find herself forced to go on the offensive, and when that happens, she won't be a super weak fighter, but a capable one, and she'll knock the fuck outta Logan.
How did DoFla fly to the castle when there weren't any clouds in the sky???
with his farts 16 characters
so we're all in agreement that kyros is rebecca's father? right?
It will be better if you reread the chapter. If you lucky, you'll find the reason of why Riku's agree to pay the money.
I know there is a reason, the problem is that it was really stupid.
1- If by prince you mean the king's son, I thought it was stated that Scarlett is the king's daughter, so Toy Soldier is his daughter's husband. That in theory makes him the prince too, but not blood related, which I guess is your point. And it's in fact a pretty big mystery that Scarlett and Rebecca lived on their own selling flowers while being daughter and granddaughter of the king. Something is still amiss.
Also, I bet my ass Toy Soldier lived with Scarlett and Rebecca in that house up till the day of the assault, but since that part of the Flashback was told from Rebecca's point of view, and his dad was turned into a toy, she forgot about his existence. So he could've been there the entire time. That we'll know eventually, and also why they left the castle and went to live on their own in relative poverty.
2- I find it kinda classist that you consider a king kneeling to its people a shameful and disgraceful act. I wish kings in real life would be as human as this. The king KNEW this was a completely bonkers request (as noted by Lepanto himself, who's completely sure no one will comply with such a crazy demand), so he went out of his way to BEG the people to just go with it for the moment.
Hell, he offered his limbs in exchange. That's called commitment, and I'd like to see it more often, instead of endless protocols and "kingly" gestures and mannerisms that often hide an uglier truth.
Did they really say Scarlet was the King's daughter? I made the point about him being the King's son because that was what Ussop was clearly trying to ask him.
As for the King thing. I based that opinion out of what I know about Kings mainly from fantasy settings where the King's vassals actually wanted to serve him and were proud of it(you really can't compare monarchy in the old days with what is there now). Plus from what we've seen the Royal family guaranteed them peace and prosperity for 800 years, I really don't see why he had to bow down to them and beg them for money(he could have just appeared on the screen calmed his citizens down and asked them to cooperate with his soldiers and I'm sure everyone would have agreed since they would have known there was a reason for it.) By bowing down and begging its like his saying that his people aren't loyal to him.
I can't really explain better now, maybe I'll try later.
Solid chapter. Most important part of the chapter: Doflamingo wears his sunglasses at night.
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I don't get it. If Doflamingo's claim to Dressrosa is so strong that it would threaten the validity of King Riku then why would he need to go through all these underhanded tactics just to get the island. He has the benefit of appearing to the people as a hero but why does he need the people to like him in order to rule. The people hated Wapol but he ruled the island just fine.
If Riku was just afraid of starting a fight then that seems pretty naive to trust a pirate who is most known for coercing his way into positions of power.
The motivations here seem sketchy to me.
And what does Monet have to do with anything other than a callback to someone who just met. why even mention her?
She probably isn't dead, along with Vergo. I'm sure they'll be back by the final fights.
well DF could not get more damn evil. Him and those strings screwed over an entire country . Everyone in power seems like they had to lie to get into that position
@Gia:
She probably isn't dead, along with Vergo. I'm sure they'll be back by the final fights.
getting chopped up to multiple pieces and being in the middle of giant explosions kills yu even in one piece…plus monets heart was stabbed...come on whitebeard and ace are alive too right
The country's belong to Donquixote and DD want to take it back, but DD also gave Riku a chance to buy the country. from Riku's reaction, it's clear that DD is the rightful owner. I still don't see it as a threatening.
Wrong, the throne of dressrosa was given away 900 years ago. The donquixote family have no claim to it anymore, so yes he was threatening.
getting chopped up to multiple pieces and being in the middle of giant explosions kills yu even in one piece…plus monets heart was stabbed...come on whitebeard and ace are alive too right
Wrong, the throne of dressrosa was given away 900 years ago. The donquixote family have no claim to it anymore, so yes he was threatening.
No, it's not given away, Donquixotes just move to Mariejois. Dressrosa is the home of Donquixotes.
My review for the chapter:
getting chopped up to multiple pieces and being in the middle of giant explosions kills yu even in one piece…plus monets heart was stabbed...come on whitebeard and ace are alive too right
Well there's your answer. Whitebeard and Ace were killed in such a way that shocked us and moved the plot. Just because they were killed allows me to believe that Oda has balls to kill huge characters, and not the fact that he abandoned his tradition of characters surviving miraculous deaths. I can see both of them coming back. They were largely underdeveloped but needed to be beaten to give us some sort of satisfaction for that arc. Monet has a great devil fruit that can be explored more with a better fight (aka Zoro not owning her), while Vergo just doesn't seem like the type to be killed off yet. We don't know and will never know until Oda either A) confirms their deaths, B)They show up again in the manga, or C) They show up in a cover story. Characters usually die with definitive panels in this manga, such as Ace's smiling face and Whitebeard's double spread.
@Gia:
She probably isn't dead, along with Vergo. I'm sure they'll be back by the final fights.
Please just stop. They're dead. Get over it. They served their purpose and now they're useless. Just because Monet was mentioned in a friggin flashback doesn't mean that she has to weasel her way into the story again. Ace was shown in a flashback after his death but did he come back? No. To anyone who wants to reply to this with a stupid comment, I don't care If Monet is alive or not, I'm simply annoyed of these monet fanatics thinking that she just has to come back for no real reason. If Oda wanted that he could have done that when DD was at punk hazard.
hmm, Doflamingo power to control others "parasite" make me wonder. is there have been any explanation (on the manga, not fan made theory) on how to counter power such as this, or power like perona and jola?
cause to me those power just hax :blink:.
I would just like to take this moment to point out that Franky started crying before the lightning soldier actually got into the proper flashback. I say this because in the panel before he started talking Franky was clearly not crying.
Time to say what I thought of the chapter:
-That coverstory panel really threw me off. It seemed like a panel of the usual chapter rather than a cover story. Drake look baddass in it anyways. With him leaving with Caribou like that with everyone on the ground it seemed like those where the guy is pissed they send him on a mission below his level. and for some reason I picture explosion behind them and some cool soundtrack to help the baddass effect.
-Rebecca seems to have find a way to use Logan strength for the time being. Wether it's because she can't Logan out or to beat the fodder faster she is indeed a clever girl. But I still find her panting alarming. And the crowed is once again booing. I wonder if they will be happy when she draws some blood against Cavendish.
-I like how toy soldier pretend to ignore Usopp even through he is playing with his head to get his attention.
-Monet? We will probably get to see her before she gone harpy mode and I wonder how she looked when she was younger. With her working in the palace I wonder for how long Dofla has panned to take over the country.
-Flashback time. Happy and beautiful country where no one is rich but everyone is happy. Feeling like I'm in aa fairy tale. there's even the royal family love by everyone. Fairy tale I tell you.
-For those asking Dfla came from the sky. Just look the middle panel. And Riku looked so much younger 10 years ago.
-"Not a world just listen" started the evil "10 billions before dawn or I'll take this country" the evil said. And the king knew he had no choice. He gathered his men and asked his people for money hoping they had enough to content the of the evil man.
-In serious note now. Doflamingo appeared out of the blue and we learn some interesting stuff. First off the countries pays a tribute to the celestial dragons. Are the one paying from the WG? I expect so. I don't see other country force to pay for the life of spoiled brat. Except if it's a way to guarantee the WG won't attack you, but I really doubt it.
-Second point Dofla attack those ship and get away with it. He doesn't get admirals on his ass but rather blackmail the WG into making him a shichibukai. That tells me his family are still part of the spoiled brats of the government. And gives an explanation of how his bounty got so high. That's higher then the destroyer of Ennias Lobby after all. It also means that the government his the in dominated side of the bargain.
-So like say above 10 billions. Can't say it's Doflamingo to the citizens or ask for help for the other country. Since we're then years ago, in the new world, in the middle of the night and with the descendant of the previous dynasty who is blackmailing the government I can understand you rather try to play by his rule at first before playing dirty. So in that way fighting as first option is a bad idea.
-The speech Riku gives about how killing make us wild animal is retarded anyway because resulting to force when there's no other option isn't being an animal. I find that level of pacifism retarded from a king who have ruled for many years. But since his policy seems to have work out I suppose that works for the fairy tale country.
-Getting the money from the citizens is the only way I could see besides fighting so I concur to the idea. And the same way I think Riku begging was a good way to make sure the people would still believe in their king. But the limb-cutting proposition was going overboard.
-For godsake Tank looks evil as fuck with that expression, he reminds me of Hordy's followers. I would that guy comes asking for my money with that face I would be certain he killed the king recently or that he's betraying him.
-So they did get all the money of the country. I wonder if Dofla gave it back or keep some to himself.
-King Riku gets control. Predictable. But he does tell the dudes to run away while slicing them. But I wonder why he doesn't yell it's all Doflamingo's doing. Would that have benn the whole incident of the night I would have (like usual) call the people of One Piece stupid.
-It's kind of heartbreaking to watch Tank witness such act from his beloved king. But no worries, he also gets to participate in the fun just like the other soldiers. At least he came to understand his king action by slaying the civilians. But seriously I can help thinking about the thriller dance(MJ) and the ogre dance(Shrek 3) when I see Dofla takes control of everyone and say let dance.
-The last comment of Dofla was neat.
Comments
Rebecca fight with Cavendish will make her loose blood in the coliseum for the first time. I expect her to lose that fight.
I really think that the Riku family have been getting brainwashed into saint by their parents for 800 years. I suppose it is to be sure they do not use the dwarves anymore.
I expect the part about Monet to be explain by someone from the Doflamingo family and that's when we will get to see toy soldier get transform into toy. I expect him to be Kyros living in the palace and chief of the army. I also except him to be undefeated in the coliseum and having fight some big name we know about 20 years ago leaving him a wound that his not his leg. I am sure he was transformed before that night. Monet might appear for that.
Seeing how parasite looks like bunch of needles I excpect it to have to do with the neural central.
Please just stop. They're dead. Get over it. They served their purpose and now they're useless. Just because Monet was mentioned in a friggin flashback doesn't mean that she has to weasel her way into the story again. Ace was shown in a flashback after his death but did he come back? No. To anyone who wants to reply to this with a stupid comment, I don't care If Monet is alive or not, I'm simply annoyed of these monet fanatics thinking that she just has to come back for no real reason. If Oda wanted that he could have done that when DD was at punk hazard.
Not even close a monet fanatic. I have however always been a Dofla fanatic. And you won't know until it happens or the story just moves on without them. Don't be mad bro.
hmm, Doflamingo power to control others "parasite" make me wonder. is there have been any explanation (on the manga, not fan made theory) on how to counter power such as this, or power like perona and jola?
cause to me those power just hax :blink:.
Well, I think it only works on "weak" people. When he used his strings to control strong characters, such as Jozu or Sanji, he limited to just inmobilizing them. Maybe that's all he could do in those cases. Still powerful enough, thought
hmm, Doflamingo power to control others "parasite" make me wonder. is there have been any explanation (on the manga, not fan made theory) on how to counter power such as this, or power like perona and jola?
cause to me those power just hax :blink:.
There's not much behind this but I think Luffy could possibly combat it by using CoC in a way that we don't know about yet, since there seems to be more to CoC than just knocking out weak people (see Shanks on Whitebeard's ship).
I'm calling it here, the dynamite that we see King Riku bring is going go end up blowing off Rebecca's father's (Toy soldier's)
leg.
@The:
Calling it now, and yes, something similar HAS happened before: Doflamingo is going to pull a stringed-control version of "Shadows Asgard" on Dressrosa during the final fight with Luffy. He'll probably force every living, animate thing, or almost every living thing, on Dressrosa to converge and attack the Strawhat Crew.
Donquixote Doflamingo = Da puppet Masta
Can totallly seeing him pulling this off. Seeing as we don't know the full extent of his powers still.
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I would just like to take this moment to point out that Franky started crying before the lightning soldier actually got into the proper flashback. I say this because in the panel before he started talking Franky was clearly not crying.
Just noticed that too. Hm wonder why. Maybe it's just franky being franky as usual and crying randomly. He can't help himself xD
Did they really say Scarlet was the King's daughter? I made the point about him being the King's son because that was what Ussop was clearly trying to ask him.
Toy Soldier told Rebecca that Scarlet was once "great person" and that she had her mother's noble blood flowing in her veins.
Maybe Sol didn't want to say "hey yo you're part of the nobility because I'm your dad and the prince" and just confuse a girl who lost her mom but I'm inclined to believe he was telling the truth.
Were in the second half of the grand line, Oda has so much to do without procrastinating bringing defeated villians back over and over. Moneys heart was stabbed…law finished vergo the end
they are classic coverstory material
Please just stop. They're dead. Get over it. They served their purpose and now they're useless.
Just like pell.
I am against her reviving btw.