See Lensherr, Erik and then just take your pick of the wonderful ways magnetism can be used in battle.
so boring though…
it's been done to death
See Lensherr, Erik and then just take your pick of the wonderful ways magnetism can be used in battle.
so boring though…
it's been done to death
so boring though…
it's been done to death
Pretty much everything has been done to death by this point. I was just pointing out some ways that magnetism could be used effectively in battle. Although I expect Oda to have his own unique spin on how to use magnetism to fight.
Pretty much everything has been done to death by this point. I was just pointing out some ways that magnetism could be used effectively in battle. Although I expect Oda to have his own unique spin on how to use magnetism to fight.
You're probably right.
I see magnetism as a restricted telekinesis. So i'm probably wrong, I'm sure there's aspects to it that I haven't thought about.
I just don't know how you set limits on that sort of power. In theory you should be able to use it to the max from day one.
Maybe he can shift tectonic plates or something idk.
You're probably right.
I see magnetism as a restricted telekinesis. So i'm probably wrong, I'm sure there's aspects to it that I haven't thought about.
Magnetism does more than make metallic items move (that's the impression I get from 'restricted telekinesis')
I just don't know how you set limits on that sort of power. In theory you should be able to use it to the max from day one.
Maybe he can shift tectonic plates or something idk.
not really that's more of convection in the magma under the crust, not magnetism. What Magneticism could do (in a OP setting) could possibly reach what some fans call "Law-level Hax" . Tearing ships apart form distance (take out all the nails, metal braces ect,) and floating metallic items is small stuff.
In Marvel Comics Magneto was able to create shields to protect himself and fly
Magnetism does more than make metallic items move (that's the impression I get from 'restricted telekinesis')
not really that's more of convection in the magma under the crust, not magnetism. What Magneticism could do (in a OP setting) could possibly reach what some fans call "Law-level Hax" . **Tearing ships apart form distance (take out all the nails, metal braces ect,)**and floating metallic items is small stuff.
I could see him doing it so we get a strong impression from his power. But Law have his brand name level of hax? That's quite something.
I don't expect Oda to explore the most obscure applications of magnetic powers. He will probably limit it to manipulation of metallic objects.
Kid's fighting style will probably revolve around him creating huge objects made of junk and attacking with them.
I don't expect Oda to explore the most obscure applications of magnetic powers. He will probably limit it to manipulation of metallic objects.
Kid's fighting style will probably revolve around him creating huge objects made of junk and attacking with them.
I need to disagree with that, he would be too weak and limited if that was the case.
I don't expect Oda to explore the most obscure applications of magnetic powers. He will probably limit it to manipulation of metallic objects.
Kid's fighting style will probably revolve around him creating huge objects made of junk and attacking with them.
I expect him more to fight with bunch of daggers or something like that he controlled with his powers.
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I need to disagree with that, he would be too weak and limited if that was the case.
That's what I think as well. He needs to have other variations to his power, otherwise he's not really going to be able to compete with Luffy or Law, esp based on his power.
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I need to disagree with that, he would be too weak and limited if that was the case.
It was pretty much what he did in Sabaody and against that pirate crew when he entered the NW. He seems to prefer doing that over anything else at least.
We don't know the range of his powers, though. For all we know, he could easily attract battleships and other metal objects found in faraway islands.
i feel like Kidd won't be completely dependent on his df power. Kidd is a strong fighter in his own right
It was pretty much what he did in Sabaody and against that pirate crew when he entered the NW. He seems to prefer doing that over anything else at least.
We don't know the range of his powers, though. For all we know, he could easily attract battleships and other metal objects found in faraway islands.
I'd imagine his control over magnetic objects has probably increased as much as Law's powers using Room have obviously grown.
If Law can deflect and cut meteors I'd expect Kid to be able to manipulate a similar amount of metal with no real effort at least.
I'm sure Oda will think up some real weird and wondeful ways for Kid to use his powers.
What I really want to see is new applications of Tatakau Music though.
I imagine him like Toki from code breaker and with daggers.
I could see him doing it so we get a strong impression from his power. But Law have his brand name level of hax? That's quite something.
I making fun of a few fans that keep shouting "Law's too powerful!" and "Law needs some limits!"
Would be interesting if the Kid alliance is attacking Shanks, though everything currently points at Big Mom.
Would be interesting if the Kid alliance is attacking Shanks, though everything currently points at Big Mom.
Why is Kid attacking Shanks interesting?
Why is Kid attacking Shanks interesting?
Because it would throw the likely story that will happen out the window, regarding Blackbeard fighting and possibly killing him. The interaction between the 4 crews would be quite interesting, of course depending what and if anything would be shown. There certain points of reference in the future plot that are most likely going to happen, and I'd just like Oda to throw us completely off and do something different.
Kid alliance against Big Mom would also be very interesting, don't get me wrong. If that happens, I would still be delighted if Oda doesn't skip as he does some great unique battles. The only thing I do not want is the Lawffy alliance to team up with the Kid alliance to take down a Yonko, as that likely means the storyline has so much longer to go before Luffy is strong enough to even beat a Yonko by himself.
Because it would throw the likely story that will happen out the window, regarding Blackbeard fighting and possibly killing him.
Not really, because Kidd would only be getting taken out by Shanks.
Either the main villain takes Shanks out, or Luffy does. Or perhaps perhaps a Marine.
But not Kidd.
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Not really, because Kidd would only be getting taken out by Shanks.
Either the main villain takes Shanks out, or Luffy does. Or perhaps perhaps a Marine.
But not Kidd.
Why do you say this, we don't have confirmation of the strength of the current 4 Yonkos. From a story perspective, the likely scenario is what you say but power wise, we don't know who is the strongest and whether they're strong enough.
Why do you say this, we don't have confirmation of the strength of the current 4 Yonkos.
I'm not talking about friggin' power levels.
From a story perspective, the likely scenario is what you say but power wise,
Nobody gives a shit about "power wise" except braindead fanboys who treat this like MMA and get annoyed with talking chapters.
Why do you say this, we don't have confirmation of the strength of the current 4 Yonkos. From a story perspective, the likely scenario is what you say but power wise, we don't know who is the strongest and whether they're strong enough.
They are three sure plot armor in a manga: Final villain, main character, Badass mentor.
Shanks is badass mentor. He can loose to the main fharacter to show his growth, to the final villain to make it more personal and makes the readers hate him and maybe to the marines so we hates Akainu and the world government. He can't loose to Shanks. We can't even feel bad for Kidd since as the cool mentor we'll be cheering for Shanks.
why do people assume the super novas are gonna be able to fight on equal levels with a Yonko some day
I can't imagine Kidd and law being able to fight toe to toe with Black Beard at the end of the series, I still have no idea what the Yonkou's can do to be that strong, let alone how Luffy or some rivals will be able to
If everyone gets to Yonko level power by the end of the series it's gonna be fucking crazy, I imagine Luffy is gonna have to find some way to pull ahead of the rest of the crowd, I'm just hoping there's not some Will of D. haki transformation thing that only Gol D. Roger ever had… like the equivalent of the super saiyan for One Piece.... it sounds lame.... but I'm sure Oda could pull it off
They are three sure plot armor in a manga: Final villain, main character, Badass mentor.
Shanks is badass mentor. He can loose to the main fharacter to show his growth, to the final villain to make it more personal and makes the readers hate him and maybe to the marines so we hates Akainu and the world government. He can't loose to Shanks. We can't even feel bad for Kidd since as the cool mentor we'll be cheering for Shanks.
Yes, you are probably right. It will likely end up in one of three ways, the latter two being the likeliest.
I have no idea what Monkey is rambling about but ok.
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why do people assume the super novas are gonna be able to fight on equal levels with a Yonko some day
I can't imagine Kidd and law being able to fight toe to toe with Black Beard at the end of the series, I still have no idea what the Yonkou's can do to be that strong, let alone how Luffy or some rivals will be able to
If everyone gets to Yonko level power by the end of the series it's gonna be fucking crazy, I imagine Luffy is gonna have to find some way to pull ahead of the rest of the crowd, I'm just hoping there's not some Will of D. haki transformation thing that only Gol D. Roger ever had… like the equivalent of the super saiyan for One Piece.... it sounds lame.... but I'm sure Oda could pull it off
It's very likely that Law and Kid reach Yonko level by the end of the series. All the 4 Yonkos are bound to be defeated, whether Luffy is directly involved in all four cases is another story. Roger himself was Pirate King but I would imagine characters like Rayleigh, Garp, Shiki, and Whitebeard were pretty close in strength.
It's very likely that Law and Kid reach Yonko level by the end of the series. All the 4 Yonkos are bound to be defeated, whether Luffy is directly involved in all four cases is another story. Roger himself was Pirate King but I would imagine characters like Rayleigh, Garp, Shiki, and Whitebeard were pretty close in strength.
Well we'll have to see what the other Yonko's are capable of, but I just think the end war for the finally of the series would be to chaotic if suddenly 5 or 6 more people are that powerful
so powerful that the WG lives in fear of them ever teaming up, I imagine they'll end up at top tier power like Aokiji, Akainu, Mihawk etc. but never getting to that final point that Luffy and BB stand at
Warning: Don't take this theory too seriously, if it actually happened this way it would totally suck worse than Naruto.
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Kaidou has the Memory Memory fruit, with this he can create and remove memories of living beings including himself.
Tashigi is actually Kuina with her memory wiped by Kaidou, her father. He wanted Zoro to forget about her so he faked her death and wiped her memories.
Vergo was installed in the navy with fake memories so no suspicion would be placed under him, and when his real memories were re-installed (when he was a high enough rank), some fractions of his fake memories were left behind, such as memories of him having a camera, eating cookies, and being a swordsman. All things he have said which have made no sense at all, until now. This also made his past relationship with the marines void, as he has no memories of them ever meeting, thus could easily kill them off.
Doflamingo is Sabo. He was aged by Bonney to around Luffy's and Ace's age and Kaidou implanted fake memories into him to keep check on Ace and Luffy as Ace was under suspicion of Kaidou as the son of Roger, the Pirate King, as he was very close to Roger when he was alive. He wanted to see what the son of the Pirate King would do next. Grow up as a marine, like Garp said, or defy Garp and become a pirate, just like his father?
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Well we'll have to see what the other Yonko's are capable of, but I just think the end war for the finally of the series would be to chaotic if suddenly 5 or 6 more people are that powerful
so powerful that the WG lives in fear of them ever teaming up, I imagine they'll end up at top tier power like Aokiji, Akainu, Mihawk etc. but never getting to that final point that Luffy and BB stand at
Wait, you name Aokiji and Mihawk as top tier powers but not Kizaru? How many times do we have to go through this, The guy has the ultimate logia element, he is Light for petes sake! Would you rather bet on a chunk of Ice than the purest form of energy in the universe?
seriously come one bro, you wanna shoot ice partizans that can be split in half or do you wanna shoot light lazor beams that explode with an impact big enough to pretty much turn a multi-store building into dust? Move/teleport around the world at the speed of light, or ride around on the ocean on a bicycle? Fight at the speed of light or fight at the spead of… Ice?
Regarding KAIDOU
Im expecting him to be a Mythical Zoan: Lizard Lizard Model: Hydra
Hydra is an ancient Greek mythical beast that was mentioned in the tale of the twelve labors of Hercules (also called Heracles). The hydra has many heads (possibly 7, 8 or 9), the number of head varies from different versions of the legend, however, more accounts agree on nine. _**It was said that the middle one was immortal and it has very poisonous venom and breath. If the heads are cut off, the heads would grow back. One head cut-off would result to two heads growing back in its place
…And that is why they call him 100 beasts Kaidou. Plus it serves someone with the Yonkou title to have eaten the rarest DF class.**_
I think Kaido will be similar to Pekoms, a minkman with a (dragon?) Zoan fruit. Him being a bipedal lion like Pekoms would be fitting for someone who's epithet has been translated as "King of the Beasts".
I think Kaido will be similar to Pekoms, a minkman with a (dragon?) Zoan fruit. Him being a bipedal lion like Pekoms would be fitting for someone who's epithet has been translated as "King of the Beasts".
The Dragon Fruit is reserved for, well, Dragon, because it fits his weather theme perfectly.
The Dragon Fruit is reserved for, well, Dragon, because it fits his weather theme perfectly.
Know you're probably not serious but it's pretty much a given that Dragon has a Paramecia at this point
Know you're probably not serious but it's pretty much a given that Dragon has a Paramecia at this point
You know about japanese folklore and how they they believed dragons to be sea and sky deities associated with weather penomenons right? wich is why momo can produce clouds.
Mythical Zoan abilities can be paramecia-esque in nature, like sengokus buddha form shockwaves.
Know you're probably not serious but it's pretty much a given that Dragon has a Paramecia at this point
Only if by paramecia you mean the wind logia.
You know about japanese folklore and how they they believed dragons to be sea and sky deities associated with weather penomenons right? wich is why momo can produce clouds.
Mythical Zoan abilities can be paramecia-esque in nature, like sengokus buddha form shockwaves.
That's true about Momonosuke's fruit but perhaps his is slightly different considering its an artificial Zoan, and it would be somewhat lame if his name was Dragon which also happens to be his Devil Fruit power. And there's a large difference between forming shockwaves and ferocious thunderstorms covering a huge area.
Does Dragon really have to be a Zoan? A paramecia type fruit that allows him to manipulate the weather is fine surely?
Does Dragon really have to be a Zoan? A paramecia type fruit that allows him to manipulate the weather is fine surely?
Well we've already seen a paramecia capable of affecting the environment(Quake fruit) so a paramecia fruit with weather power is surely likable for my tastes.
Actually I take back Kaido being a minkman just because his silhouette from when the Yonkou were first introduced looks human. You could say early Oda silhouettes can't be trusted like the Shichibukai one, but the Yonkou silhouettes truthfully depicted Big Mom as humanoid so I think it's safe to say Kaido will be too…
Well we'll have to see what the other Yonko's are capable of, but I just think the end war for the finally of the series would be to chaotic if suddenly 5 or 6 more people are that powerful
so powerful that the WG lives in fear of them ever teaming up, I imagine they'll end up at top tier power like Aokiji, Akainu, Mihawk etc. but never getting to that final point that Luffy and BB stand at
We could have something along the lines of Coby and Smoker potentially being Admiral level, and one of Law or Kid being below the other in power. I really do expect one of Law/Kid to be just below Luffy by the end of the series, along with Zoro.
Blackbeard is likely either going to die or get sent to jail by the end of the series.
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Tashigi is actually Kuina with her memory wiped by Kaidou, her father. He wanted Zoro to forget about her so he faked her death and wiped her memories.
and this is when I would quit reading One Piece.
Actually I take back Kaido being a minkman just because his silhouette from when the Yonkou were first introduced looks human. You could say early Oda silhouettes can't be trusted like the Shichibukai one, but the Yonkou silhouettes truthfully depicted Big Mom as humanoid so I think it's safe to say Kaido will be too…
You can't really see anything from that silhouette. The most recent suspected kaido picture makes the possibility of him being a minkman rise in my opinion. You know, the one from the pirate alliance saga coverspread. That's if that IS kaido of course.
You can't really see anything from that silhouette. The most recent suspected kaido picture makes the possibility of him being a minkman rise in my opinion. You know, the one from the pirate alliance saga coverspread. That's if that IS kaido of course.
You can see a very normal human like face
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And that is almost definitely Kaido in that 693 color spread, but it doesn't really look like a Minkman to me, just looks like a man with bushy black hair and a moustache yelling.
You can see a very normal human like face
! http://img.mangastream.to/manga/one-piece/432/One_Piece-432-07.png
And that is almost definitely Kaido in that 693 color spread, but it doesn't really look like a Minkman to me, just looks like a man with bushy black hair and a moustache yelling.
I wouldn't say it's so clean cut as looking like a normal guy tbh. And like you said, that silhouette can't be entirely relied on since it was hundreds of chapters ago. Big mom doesn't look quite like in that silhouette for example.
Also that bushy hair could quite easily be a mane.
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Well we've already seen a paramecia capable of affecting the environment(Quake fruit) so a paramecia fruit with weather power is surely likable for my tastes.
Yeah that's what I was thinking along the lines of.
Paramecias usually arent that "Wide" in their ability range as to give you complete power over something universary as the weather on that scale, are they? A Wind Logia would make more sense but has he not also shown to be able to create lightnings at least once?
Being a mythical Zoan opens up more options, because who said weather must be dragons only perk? With a mythical Zoan you first and foremost get the basic "+stat" bonuses like any zoan, and you can gain completley unique mythical abilities like Marcos Blue Flames/Phoenix form for example wich makes him intangible like a logia but can also fly over sea like a zoan and and most importantly heal haki/seastone infused damage that struck his physical form, wich is unique and something logia users cannot do.Also i think we have seen quite enough logias already, save for the Milk Logia
Marco doesn't become intangible. He is just a bird who can regenarate.
With fruit like the Ope no mi it wouldn't be abnormal to see a climate no mi which control the weather on a certain area.
Marco doesn't become intangible. He is just a bird who can regenarate.
With fruit like the Ope no mi it wouldn't be abnormal to see a climate no mi which control the weather on a certain area.
He becomes a phoenix, a bird made of fire. how can flames be tanglible?
A Phoenix has a physical body, it's only cloaked in regenerative flames, as if they're feathers.
A Phoenix has a physical body, it's only cloaked in regenerative flames, as if they're feathers.
Source?
and i cant bother to reread marineford in its entierty but in the bits i saw he had projectiles like kizarus lazers seem to pass straight through at least his wings, just leaving "shadows" in the form of closing gaps upon impact, just like when crocodile or smoker is punched or shot with a projectile.
if he is just a regular bird who heals, the beams would not pass through, but you can tell they do. cant have both in this case im afraid
Source?
and i cant bother to reread marineford in its entierty but in the bits i saw he had projectiles like kizarus lazers seem to pass straight through at least his wings, just leaving "shadows" in the form of closing gaps upon impact, just like when crocodile or smoker is punched or shot with a projectile.
if he is just a regular bird who heals, the beams would not pass through, but you can tell they do. cant have both in this case im afraid
I can't really provide a source because information is scattered, if you just research it via internet you'll notice common characteristics of the Phoenix.