Because he's outside the building, with ''natural'' light, like the timeskip one…
No. The picture you used was brighter than what his actual color scheme looked like.
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Because he's outside the building, with ''natural'' light, like the timeskip one…
No. The picture you used was brighter than what his actual color scheme looked like.
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No. The picture you used was brighter than what his actual color scheme looked like.
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I see. Then that's the good one. Sorry.
This is what I'm talking about:
http://i40.tinypic.com/287nrrc.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/13z8kkn.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/4jqfxu.jpg
The colors had a higher contrast before the time skip, which makes it look more vibrant and lively. And the choice of colors was better… But that's just my opinion.
Since Sanji developed an ability that gets him closer to the sun, I guess it's understandable that he got a little tan. I do like the new colors.
Also, I'm one of those who prefer the new Robin colors as well, didn't like her tan before. And this is expected since she probably stayed for 2 years in a cold climate.
Yep the characters have certainly undergone palette changes after the time skip, although subtle.
Most striking is that the standard outline/'black' is lighter. For better or worse, this results an in a more variation in tone as opposed to just black for everything.
These choices have made certain shots work a lot better, but having the black constantly toned down means that the character outlines just don't stand out as much.
This in conjunction with the character palettes now generally paler, we get some pretty bland results.
Thought it was just Fishman Island arc that was bland, but looks like these color decisions might be here to stay.
Quick comparison:
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Evolution of Luffy:
Examples of how the contrasting blacks can work well:
Brook from 516 (Last episode before the timeskip)
Below that Brook in the next episode preview of 516, already showing the changes:
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The colors themselves are okay as far as I'm concerned, but I think the main culprits for any drabness are the environment lighting filters, like what we're seeing on Punk Hazard. I felt the same way about Thriller Bark back when it was currently airing.
I think the pasteley palette they picked after the timeskip worked really well for Fishman Island, and I suppose it works for Punk Hazard, too.
But I really hope they modify it to something a little deeper for Dressrosa.
Also, I really dislike how they made Robin so pale. I liked her darker skin tone more; it's a huge difference.
Break next week.
So this will air 8/11 ? Looks really good
So this will air 8/11 ? Looks really good
Yep. Break next week, unless the preview was uploaded to the wrong date URL.
Preview looks nice, Above average quality. Looks like Megumi Yamashita.
The way they're calling him "anime director" is misleading, though…i don't know if he can answer about pacing, filler arcs, these things people will ask.
i hope the questions about pacing get answered
Yeah, I seriously doubt he'll have any idea of what is going on above his work as an animation supervisor. Other than the episode directors he works with Hisada is probably the only other main staffer he works with.
I feel bad for Shingaki if he gets those type of questions that are not related to animation.
What's up with people keep saying that One Piece had better animation before the Time Skip? It's still the same.
Yes, Animators keep moving around but they are replaced by others and eventually they come back, Also most of the Animation Directors are the same.
People compare the whole arc to a certain scene, Like this guy…
One Piece had great animation before Punk Hazard, i don't know what's going on with Toei Animation. Search in youtube, "Rayleigh vs Kizaru" that has spectacular animation
Okay, so this guy must have seen Shida's cut. It's true that Sabaody was an amazing arc, not only that, most of it's content were done good. But it had it's moments when the animation turned to shit. Shida worked after the Timskip, even if it wasn't much, he still worked.
Does anyone have the next rotation of animators for next month's episodes?
Does anyone have the next rotation of animators for next month's episodes?
It usually comes out at the end of the first week of every month.
Galaxy must have missed this. I don't support this everythingonepiece guy, acting like he owns the early PVs.
Anyway, Deguchi. The Main villain is gonna look great in this!
So Deguchi huh? Oh well…
Galaxy must have missed this. I don't support this everythingonepiece guy, acting like he owns the early PVs.
Yeah, I've been out today, so didn't get a chance to see if it was up. (My channel has been spammed before by that guy's subscribers saying that I "stole" the previews from him).
Anyways, ew Deguchi.
I hate Deguchi with a passion. How was it even possible for him to become a professional animator? He animates at an amateur level. What's even worse is that they give him the most episodes to animate, the most important episodes to animate, and many of the action episodes.Who's the guy in charge of who animates which episodes? I'd highly advise him to quit.
I hate Deguchi with a passion. How was it even possible for him to become a professional animator? He animates at an amateur level. What's even worse is that they give him the most episodes to animate, the most important episodes to animate, and many of the action episodes.Who's the guy in charge of who animates which episodes? I'd highly advise him to quit.
They use amateur animators because they don't want to spend a lot of money on the series. All their good animators go to Toriko, Precure, and the various films they do for each series. They do occasionally bring them to this series though.
From what I've learned in this thread, there's a rotation that the animation directors go through. He definitely isn't animating the most episodes though: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Episodes_Animated_by_Toshio_Deguchi
I think Hisada is the main animation director, isn't he? Not sure if he picks who animates what, but if so, he has to work with the budget the higher ups give him. I don't think he can just decide whatever he wants.
What's even worse is that they give him the most episodes to animate, the most important episodes to animate, and many of the action episodes.Who's the guy in charge of who animates which episodes?
He doesn't get "the most important" episodes. In fact i can't remember right now of a single key episode done by Deguchi. Maybe one of the post-war ones?
Anyway, it seems he does more episodes only because he's bad.
@Galaxy:
They use amateur animators because they don't want to spend a lot of money on the series. All their good animators go to Toriko, Precure, and the various films they do for each series. They do occasionally bring them to this series though..
Obviously Deguchi isn't an "amateur", he's just cheaper, probably. I don't watch Toriko anymore, but it certainly has its own Deguchi, like every other Toei series (or rather, long running series). Up to the point i watched, many episodes looked pretty bad.
Obviously Deguchi isn't an "amateur", he's just cheaper, probably. I don't watch Toriko anymore, but it certainly has its own Deguchi, like every other Toei series (or rather, long running series). Up to the point i watched, many episodes looked pretty bad.
In my eyes Deguchi is an amateur level animator. He can't even draw correctly, his episodes would be a lot more tolerable of his art was more consistent. What kind of animator can't draw correctly and can just barely animate?I didn't call him an amateur, I just said that he animates at an amateur level.
Most animators are bad. Deguchi just so happens to be a veteran, thus he gets to act as an animation supervisor. He probably isn't assigned many talented animators to work with himself because those guys are being given to better animation supervisors. Deguchi receives the most episodes because his are throwaways. The same thing happened with Dragon Ball Z. During the Artificial Human arc Last House grew worse and worse. The animation supervisor and owner of the studio, veteran animator Uchiyama Masayuki, began to do key animation himself. There seemed to be a mass exodus from Last House around this time because many animators stopped working on their Dragon Ball Z episodes.
, Shida Naotoshi, and Uchiyama were the only three working on their episodes #128, #132, and #141. After #141 Shida was hired away by Toei Animation and began working on in-house episodes beginning with episode #159 under Miyahara Naoki (who was in charge of the CG character models for Battle of Gods). Uchiyama and Ohara were the only key animators for Last House episodes for the rest of the series and Dragon Ball GT other than #178 (Z: 145, 149, 151, 156, 161, 165, 169, 172, 178, 181, 186, 190, 194, 197, 203, 208, 212, 218, 223, 228, 233, 238, 243, 248, 254, 259, 265, 269, 273, 278, 283, 288; GT: 2, 7, 12, 18, 23, 29, 34, 39, 41, 45, 50, 53, 55, 58, 62). Uchiyama's a terrible animator himself and usually did the most key animation (any fluid cuts are from Ohara). Uchiyama did the keys for Dragon Ball GT #55 entirely by himself, too.So, the moral of the story is that most animators suck and long-running shows by Toei tend to have a throwaway team in the rotation.
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Most animators are bad. Deguchi just so happens to be a veteran, thus he gets to act as an animation supervisor. He probably isn't assigned many talented animators to work with himself because those guys are being given to better animation supervisors. Deguchi receives the most episodes because his are throwaways. The same thing happened with Dragon Ball Z. During the Artificial Human arc Last House grew worse and worse. The animation supervisor and owner of the studio, veteran animator Uchiyama Masayuki, began to do key animation himself. There seemed to be a mass exodus from Last House around this time because many animators stopped working on their Dragon Ball Z episodes.
, Shida Naotoshi, and Uchiyama were the only three working on their episodes #128, #132, and #141. After #141 Shida was hired away by Toei Animation and began working on in-house episodes beginning with episode #159 under Miyahara Naoki (who was in charge of the CG character models for Battle of Gods). Uchiyama and Ohara were the only key animators for Last House episodes for the rest of the series and Dragon Ball GT other than #178 (Z: 145, 149, 151, 156, 161, 165, 169, 172, 178, 181, 186, 190, 194, 197, 203, 208, 212, 218, 223, 228, 233, 238, 243, 248, 254, 259, 265, 269, 273, 278, 283, 288; GT: 2, 7, 12, 18, 23, 29, 34, 39, 41, 45, 50, 53, 55, 58, 62). Uchiyama's a terrible animator himself and usually did the most key animation (any fluid cuts are from Ohara). Uchiyama did the keys for Dragon Ball GT #55 entirely by himself, too.So, the moral of the story is that most animators suck and long-running shows by Toei tend to have a throwaway team in the rotation.
Deguchi have the ability to Key Animate the majority of his episode by himself, he doesn't need many animators to work with him, like Yokoyama. Hence cheap.
@Galaxy, yeah I know. Dumb idioits.
'm new in these pages^^
Explicitly what arrived than double the studio made me pause about watching One Piece One reason is animation and drawing
I am still at a loss and I do not understand what's going on, since the crew entered in punk Hazzard : Bad start opposite of what I expected :(
first :luffy + Zorro vs Dragon,,
: law vs smokers: a bad drawing and animation
and now in the last episode: Sanji to hit vergo :wassat:
Frankly there are a lot of questions that studio …:sad: ,Where are the days like old one piece (marineford,sabondy,w7) :sad:
-Drawing in fishman.I was not so bad , which many peoples think are great and this is what I saw in the video of murad sakuga fishman , which I thank him very much
finally : there is something I did not like so much and is their reliance on special and not serie,that mean we should waited 8 years to see punk hazard with cool animation
In the last , we keep waiting for the old animators like : eisaku inoue,Ryo Oonishi :wub:, naoki tate,
sorry if i talk so much :wub: or my word are not understanded cause im using google translate :ninja:
Full staff
607
Script: Suga Yoshiyuki
Storyboard: Otsuka Takashi
Episode director: Otsuka Takashi
Animation director: Hisada Kazuya & Yamashita Megumi
608
Script: Yonemura Shoji
Storyboard: Hosoda Masahiro (new)
Episode director: Hosoda Masahiro (new)
Animation director: Deguchi Toshio
609
Script: Nakayama Tomohiro
Storyboard: Komaki Aya
Episode director: Komaki Aya
Animation director: Ide Takeo
610
Script: Tanaka Hitoshi
Storyboard: Yokoyama Kenji
Episode director: Ueda Yoshihiro
Animation director: Nakatani Yukiko
611
Script: Suga Yoshiyuki
Storyboard: Nishizawa Nobutaka
Episode director: Imamura Takahiro
Animation director: Shingaki Shigefumi
Next titles (rough translation)
[8/11] 607: Incandescent Fierce Battle · Luffy vs Caesar
[8/18] 608: The Mastermind in the Shadows! Doflamingo Moves!
[8/25] 609: Luffy's Freezing to Death!? The Terrifying Snow Woman, Monet!
[9/1] 610: Fist Fight! Two Vice Admirals Fight
[9/8] 611: The Small Dragon! Momonosuke Revealed
One Piece's animation has always had its ups and downs. They do seem to be doing pretty consistently poorly these days though… I mean, the main thing I keep seeing praised about the animation these days, is how Land of Death looks.
Let me just emphasize that: The thing that gets most praise about the animation nowadays... is the GAS. And if they're putting all their best efforts into making the GAS look good, while at the same time rendering Oda's more epic drawings (such as Sanji attacking Vergo and Luffy hitting Caesar in the latest episode) as half-heartedly drawn still-frames… I think your priorities might be slightly skewed, Toei.
Two animation directors for 607? Haven't seen that before. Megumi directed Episode 587 (Law vs. Smoker), which was pretty good, so I have high hopes for it (Also helps that the preview looked great).
Deguchi confirmed for 608… well, at least the chapter is mainly dialogue, but looking at the chapter, another key scene is probably going to be ruined. New storyboard and director might make it more enjoyable though.
Don't remember Ide, but checking the Wiki, he animated 547 last, which was a pretty good episode. There aren't many key scenes this episode though.
610 is Nakatani, which will be great for what happens in that episode, but Yoshihiro directed 605, which makes me worry about the pace.
611's staff looks good. Doesn't really need super animation, but the pacing should be pretty good with the content they have.
damn, the same animators i this month again -.-
no naoki tate ,no eisaku inoue
nothing special…
damn, the same animators i this month again -.-
no naoki tate ,no eisaku inoue
nothing special…
They moved Tate to Toriko, didn't they? He hasn't animation directed anything since Episode 455 (542 if you want to count the Toriko crossover).
Inoue is working on the Merry special.
@Galaxy:
Two animation directors for 607? Haven't seen that before. Megumi directed Episode 587 (Law vs. Smoker), which was pretty good, so I have high hopes for it (Also helps that the preview looked great).
Deguchi confirmed for 608… well, at least the chapter is mainly dialogue, but looking at the chapter, another key scene is probably going to be ruined. New storyboard and director might make it more enjoyable though.
Don't remember Ide, but checking the Wiki, he animated 547 last, which was a pretty good episode. There aren't many key scenes this episode though.
610 is Nakatani, which will be great for what happens in that episode, but Yoshihiro directed 605, which makes me worry about the pace.
611's staff looks good. Doesn't really need super animation, but the pacing should be pretty good with the content they have.
309 had 2 animation directors, naoki tate and Ishizuka Katsumi
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@Galaxy:
They moved Tate to Toriko, didn't they? He hasn't animation directed anything since Episode 455 (542 if you want to count the Toriko crossover).
Inoue is working on the Merry special.
yes, tate supervised the 101 & 108 from toriko anime
Thanks Archah.
What a pleasant surprise. This month is gonna be awesome, save for Deguchi ep. But now I have some hope for the Deguchi ep, the ep director is Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Director. While some people say he is not that good of a director, still he is definitely something since Toei let's him handle movies.
Takashi Otsuka directing #607 should be interesting, it's a full action ep. It seems to me that the 1st half will be sakkaned by Yamashita, and 2nd half by Hisada.
Takeo Ide returning after a long absence to do a full action ep, this ep should be good, because it will be directed by Aya Komaki.
I'm so happy that Imamura will be directing #611. An event-less chapter. Though, I feel bad for Shingaki getting wasted here. At least the entrance at the end might be good.
I'm not very excited for the Nakatani ep, because only few pages are worth her talent. Also, Ueda is directing her ep, I'm expecting bad pacing.
You guys forgot about the recent eps 597 and 575? They had more than one AD.
More than one animation supervisor is usually indicative of a rushed schedule. Hisada's probably helping out Yamashita because things are crazy at Toei right now and he was her senpai at Seigasha. Or perhaps Hisada began working on an episode along, but wound up needing Yamashita to help? I find it humorous that Deguchi is now working with Hosoda Masahiro, the director of Battle of Gods. I guess it's back to the bullpen for Hosoda, despite directing a thirty million dollar grossing film. I'm glad to see Ide and Nakatani back, though I expected they would be working on Episode of Merry. I wonder when Yokoyama is going to be allowed to direct himself?
All of the animators aside from Deguchi are great choices. It's nice to know that the fights will have good animation. I remember someone saying that Shida would animate some of smoker vs vergo but he's not on the list so that must mean that he's doing the episode where Law cuts those mountains.
Shida's not an animation director so he wouldn't be included on those lists anyway.
Shida's not an animation director so he wouldn't be included on those lists anyway.
Really? I always thought he was idk.
All of the animators aside from Deguchi are great choices. It's nice to know that the fights will have good animation. I remember someone saying that Shida would animate some of smoker vs vergo but he's not on the list so that must mean that he's doing the episode where Law cuts those mountains.
I said that. BTW, Shida is mainly a Key Animator, he doesn't do Animation Direction, hence why you won't find him on the staff list. We only know about the Key Animators involved once the episode airs.
Anyway, out of curiosity…I asked Shida if he is working on #610 or #616, Keeping in mind that the current pacing continues for the rest of the arc; And he told me it's neither one of them, and as you guys know, those 2 episodes cover the main parts of the fight. So, I think he might work on #611, there is one panel of Smoker Vs. Vergo, which they might expand upon. And since Shida said "I will help a little on the smoker Vs Vergo", It safe to assume his cuts might be short, cause he is been too busy recently.
I'm very interested to see which animators we will see in the Otsuka episode, Last time he had an excuse since there was not much action in the ep, but now since the ep is full of action, I hope we will be surprised again.
Well since Shida isnt in #616 then we can assume the Law cutting the mountain scene will be crap in the anime, unless Tomita is guna do it but FAT chance.
Well since Shida isnt in #616 then we can assume the Law cutting the mountain scene will be crap in the anime, unless Tomita is guna do it but FAT chance.
Well, he just said he will do smoker Vs. Vergo, I doubt he would do anything else if he worked on #616.
BTW, Law cutting the mountain is gonna look like the scene when Mihawk cut the iceberg.
If they animate that scene it's gonna require a lot of frames, since background animation is harder than character animation. So, don't raise your hopes up. :p
I was so happy with the latest staff list that I forgot about Ep #613, this is the ep I was looking forward to the most, I hope it's Ishizuka's ep. And it better not be Yokoyama's, hopefully he does #614.
I wonder if it ever drives Shida crazy to only be allowed to do a little bit of work on an episode. He's such a swell guy I hate to see him so haphazardly applied by his employer.
.@Yuugi's:
I wonder if it ever drives Shida crazy to only be allowed to do a little bit of work on an episode. He's such a swell guy I hate to see him so haphazardly applied by his employer.
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maybe because he use a lot of frames in his scenes and toei limited the amount of key frames to 3000 frames per episode.
maybe because he use a lot of frames in his scenes and toei limited the amount of key frames to 3000 frames per episode.
Even the One Piece episodes with the best animation supervisors are limited to three thousand drawings, right? Is there a list of episodes with varying degrees of frames? I've heard the first episode of Evangelion used only seven hundred drawings. I'd be interested in seeing other examples.
@Yuugi's:
Even the One Piece episodes with the best animation supervisors are limited to three thousand drawings, right? Is there a list of episodes with varying degrees of frames? I've heard the first episode of Evangelion used only seven hundred drawings. I'd be interested in seeing other examples.
hmmm, i think all episode are limited.
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Toei dont care about sakuga fans so i doubt if you can find that list
Somewhat more contented to read the manga just because it's black and white. That makes it more mature and even cooler.
A lil' bit shy when watched it on TV and because its colorful theme, my parents would think that what my children watch is a kid show.
Somewhat more contented to read the manga just because it's black and white. That makes it more mature and even cooler.
A lil' bit shy when watched it on TV and because its colorful theme, my parents would think that what my children watch is a kid show.
How old are you, 11?
I hope so, or else that's probably the weirdest post i've seen in 7 years here.
Masahiro Hosoda he worked as director of a TV series that had best animation between toei's animes
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5894
i want to see one of episode #13 animators in one piece T_T
You guys forgot about the recent eps 597 and 575? They had more than one AD.
Didn't know they did. I checked the wiki page for them both, and on 597 all I saw was Nakatani, and on 575 Hisada. Who were the others?
Also, HD preview for 608 since the one posted before was from that 360p website: