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The Monet Problem: An Arlong Park Wager
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Regarding the reject dial, I think it's safe to assume Enel has a bit of a glass jaw, since he never usually got hit in the past. So mileage may vary about how good Wiper vs. Enel is as an example of the strength of the reject dial.
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She's dead just like pell.
Not dead in the literal sense, but story wise, she out lived her purpose.
She might return in a cover story helping kids and such, but I don't think she'll ever interact with doflamingo or luffy again.
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@RobbyBevard:
Monet survived because Ceaser is a mad scientist doctor and actually gave her a second heart as an experiment, which is why he was willing to trade it away.
Monet survived because she's secretly in love with someone and they truly have her heart.
Monet survived because the heart of a woman can not be underestimated.
Monet survived because she ate some spicy noodles earlier and just had sudden some heart burn.
Monet survived because Aokiji was on the scene and saw to it that she got immediate medical attention.
Monet survived because a honeybadger happened to walk into the room and saved her.
Monet survived because the room was cold enough that her logia state blah blah blah.
Monet survived because insert random Oda SBS joke here.
The how she survives is NOT important. The fact is she will.
Sorry I didn't notice the last part and thought you were just trolling! Honestly I'm not sure if she's alive or not.
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Ohh god, I voted without seen the avatar and Signature .:FacePalm Smoker edition:.
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@RobbyBevard:
Pagaya was utterly destroyed by a giant bolt of lightning destroying everything around him.
He simply survived. Oda never gave an explanation. It was just what happened.
Pagaya can dodge lightning.
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Monet is the first Harpy ever introduced in One Piece. If you go check in books, Harpies can not be killed by stabbing their hearts. They will simply heal from it.^^
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Monet is the first Harpy ever introduced in One Piece. If you go check in books, Harpies can not be killed by stabbing their hearts. They will simply heal from it.^^
Are you serious or just joking?
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I am really serious and i want the wonderful Monet to come back asap, she is so interesting.
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Monet isn't a real harpy, she's a normal person Law reconstructed with animal parts.
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Wrong, she is a real Harpy. We saw morph back to human form. She was sent by doflamingo, she got no links with others injured that were there on the island.
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Wrong, she is a real Harpy. We saw morph back to human form.
….from her snow logia's monster form? That had nothing to do with being a "harpy".
she got no links with others injured that were there on the island.
You mean Caesar, Vergo, and Law? All connected with Doflamingo?
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I mean the weaklings that law helped with new legs.
And when law made the first reunion with ceasar to reside on the island monet had normal body.
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I mean the weaklings that law helped with new legs.
Oh.
And when law made the first reunion with ceasar to reside on the island monet had normal body.
After which Law transfixed bird parts onto her. Therefore, she's not a "real harpy".
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no? And her arms too? It's obvious she's an Harpy she was even called like that in the anime. She didnt have legs problems that why there is no links with the other weaklings i was talking about.
Doflamingo would send his trusted subordinate with no legs to make sure the business with Ceasar is safe without having Law in the portray? It makes no sense.
There is no way Monet aint a Harpy, i think.
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no? And her arms too? It's obvious she's an Harpy she was even called like that in the anime.
Because that's what she looks like.
She didnt have legs problems that why there is no links with the other weaklings i was talking about.
Doflamingo would send his trusted subordinate with no legs to make sure the business with Ceasar is safe without having Law in the portray? It makes no sense.In flashback, she was shown as a normal human before meeting Law. Every time after that, she's got wings and chicken legs. It's not that she had problems with her legs. Its that she wanted to be more like a bird. (And is fascinated with astrology.)
There is no way Monet aint a Harpy, i think.
She's a logia, not a zoan. She's not a natural harpy.
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Ok, but until it is not proven law did that to her, i will beleive she is a indeed natural harpy or the impossible for manys that it is a second devil fruit. I mostly support natural harpy and that would support the twisting plot to save her character which i prefer lol.
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Ok, but until it is not proven law did that to her, i will beleive she is a indeed natural harpy or the impossible for manys that it is a second devil fruit. I mostly support natural harpy and that would support the twisting plot to save her character which i prefer lol.
You don't need to twist the plot and her devil fruit for her to survive.
Oda's writing. Something convenient happened or she's just that determined. She's fine.
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Ok, but until it is not proven law did that to her, i will beleive she is a indeed natural harpy or the impossible for manys that it is a second devil fruit. I mostly support natural harpy and that would support the twisting plot to save her character which i prefer lol.
I don't understand why you want her character saved other than she looks like a Harpy. She helped drug children and attempted to eat/kill people.
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People are humans, humans sins, it doesnt mean they dont have a heart. They just hidden it, to let someone make it revive.
Aokiji might look a bite retarded sometimes, but you will never make me think he didnt know that the buster call(s) would decimate tons of innocent peoples and finally later he quit the marines. Things happens and changes. That is why Monkey D. Luffy will forgive to anyone who got repentance and realises his horrible wrong acts.
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People are humans, humans sins, it doesnt mean they dont have a heart. They just hidden it, to let someone make it revive.
Aokiji might look a bite retarded sometimes, but you will never make me think he didnt know that the buster call(s) would decimate tons of innocent peoples and finally later he quit the marines. Things happens and changes. That is why Monkey D. Luffy will forgive to anyone who got repentance and realises his horrible wrong acts.
So…..you're trying to say that Monet regrets her actions and will seek forgiveness....from Luffy?
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People are humans, humans sins, it doesnt mean they dont have a heart. They just hidden it, to let someone make it revive.
Aokiji might look a bite retarded sometimes, but you will never make me think he didnt know that the buster call(s) would decimate tons of innocent peoples and finally later he quit the marines. Things happens and changes. That is why Monkey D. Luffy will forgive to anyone who got repentance and realises his horrible wrong acts.
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of course it won't happen like that. I think oda will make it nice as always. She have no regrets for now because she is blind, the shield need to be pierced before somehow. Well unfortunatly i am not a psychologist but i can still see fundamentaly she got a good heart instead of being pure evil.
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People are humans, humans sins, it doesnt mean they dont have a heart. They just hidden it, to let someone make it revive.
Aokiji might look a bite retarded sometimes, but you will never make me think he didnt know that the buster call(s) would decimate tons of innocent peoples and finally later he quit the marines. Things happens and changes. That is why Monkey D. Luffy will forgive to anyone who got repentance and realises his horrible wrong acts.
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Well unfortunatly i am not a psychologist but i can still see fundamentaly she got a good heart instead of being pure evil.
She willingly kidnapped kids, poisoned them, and ate/killed people. What else does she need to do to prove that she is EVIL?
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of course it won't happen like that. I think oda will make it nice as always. She have no regrets for now because she is blind, the shield need to be pierced before somehow. Well unfortunatly i am not a psychologist but i can still see fundamentaly she got a good heart instead of being pure evil.
She's a thug character of zero importance. She's as likely to be relevant again as likewise unimportant people like Gedatsu.
But no one was wondering when Gedatsu would show up, because he is a goofy man and not a pretty lady.
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Looks like it's toooo atrocious for you to be repented. Well if you think that way, im comming back with Aokiji, he is as evil as her then… To your sense
Thought i still think there is a difference between those who are willing to hurt people intentionally and those who are hurting people by following orders.
My and Luffy's forgiveness might be too painfull for you, particularly for the poor little kids.
EDIT: Well i truly dont think shes a thug character of zero importance.
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Monet obviously enjoyed her job of doing evil things, so it's the worst of all worlds.
EDIT: Well i truly dont think shes a thug character of zero importance.
Ok, what is her importance aside from being a thug.
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@Monkey:
She's a thug character of zero importance. She's as likely to be relevant again as likewise unimportant people like Gedatsu.
But no one was wondering when Gedatsu would show up, because he is a goofy man and not a pretty lady.
Gedatsu actually got his own cover story.
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Gedatsu actually got his own cover story.
I know lol. But not because he was important.
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Well i do not think Monet enjoyed doing it, i take it more as a facade to her true feelings, in the same way i was saying she is blind for now. Like Nami in the beginning, women are good at hiding their real feelings behind some sort of poker face.
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Well i do not think Monet enjoyed doing it, i take it more as a facade to her true feelings
Ok whose account is this lol.
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Looks like it's toooo atrocious for you to be repented. Well if you think that way, im comming back with Aokiji, he is as evil as her then… To your sense
Thought i still think there is a difference between those who are willing to hurt people intentionally and those who are hurting people by following orders.
My and Luffy's forgiveness might be too painfull for you, particularly for the poor little kids.
EDIT: Well i truly dont think shes a thug character of zero importance.
3 things:
1.Monet has done nothing but repeatedly exhibited "evil" qualities. What "good"/moral qualities is in this character to begin with (besides…I dunno, having boobs)?
2.Why are you comparing Aokiji with Monet? Aokiji is a significant character to the whole scheme of OP, has way more development, and was never really depicted as a villain in the first place. Go Re-Read the Water 7 arc. Aokiji is NOT Akainu (nor am I suggesting that you should compare Akainu with Monet either)
3.She's a thug character. Plain and simple. No need for any wishful thinking that will place her in any other role in the story.PS: I STILL can't get over the fact you're comparing Aokiji with Monet...those two share little to no similarities in the whole grand scheme of the story outside of...having "ice" based powers.
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i'm oblige to disagree. So Aokiji participating in the buster call that destroyed Robin's island is not evil as kidnap childs, drugs and kills?
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i'm oblige to disagree. So Aokiji participating in the buster call that destroyed Robin's island is not evil as kidnap childs, drugs and kills?
This is pretty easily countered by pointing out that if Monet worked for the government she wouldn't be conflicted about doing Buster Calls.
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I'm comparing the evilty of the situations not that one is WG and other not. Kaigun can be compared to evil side sometimes too.
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Well i think she would be still blind, looking like evil but still conflicted interiorly depending on her background story which i do not know
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I'm comparing the evilty of the situations not that one is WG and other not. Kaigun can be compared to evil side sometimes too.
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Well i think she would be still blind, looking like evil but still conflicted interiorly depending on her background story which i do not know
So we have a character who has shown conflict (Aokiji) and one who hasn't (Monet).
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Yes but i think Oda shown some hint about Monet considering her Loyalty to Doflamingo.
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I'm comparing the evilty of the situations not that one is WG and other not. Kaigun can be compared to evil side sometimes too.
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Well i think she would be still blind, looking like evil but still conflicted interiorly depending on her background story which i do not know
Omg…how many times do I have to say this? Kuzan was NEVER depicted as an evil character. He's NOTHING like Monet. Plus it was Sakazuki that bombed island and killed civilians needlessly (and even HE shouldn't be compared with Monet). This is pretty clear if you are able to read the Enies Lobby flashback chapter. Stop comparing Kuzan/Aokiji with Monet. They're nothing alike. Heck, if you can, just look at their rationals FOR their actions. That alone should be enough.
PS: Did you even read the Robin flashback chapter and Kuzan's dialogue? Or did you just look at the pretty pictures? Because I could see how one can deem Kuzan as an "evil character" just by looking at pictures and ignoring his dialogue.
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Well i think you are wrong. Whoever participate to a buster call is depicted as evil to me because the act in itself is evil, killing everyone there for hiding truth is purely evil. Giving the reason some other guy was shooting is so unrevelant to my sense.
And i personaly think there is going to be added more background story to Monet anterior life.
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Well i think you are wrong. Whoever participate to a buster call is depicted as evil to me because the act in itself is evil, killing everyone there for hiding truth is purely evil. Giving the reason some other guy was shooting is so unrevelant to my sense.
He didn't "want" to kill everybody there. Didn't you see how astounded he was when Sakazuki blew up the refuge ship?
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Yes but i think Oda shown some hint about Monet considering her Loyalty to Doflamingo.
Considering her loyalty to a mafia boss weapons dealer? Hmm
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HAY KIDS! Let's learn a new word today. It's called "motive".
It is when a character has a reason for doing something, but it isn't clearly shown through his actions. You have to know what the characters say and think. Sometimes a character does seemingly bad things, but has a good reason for doing it. Does that make him a completely evil character?
What do you think kids?
1st Graders: HE IS A BAD BAD MAN! HE DID A BAD THING AND HE MUST REALLY BE BAD. WHO CARES WHAT HE SAYS AND THINKS…HE'S STILL A BAD BAD MAN!
Sigh...it is hard to teach kids that lack reading comprehension.
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By this guys logic, Vegita and Piccolo from Dragonball were completely evil with no redeemable qualities…
Monet is still dead by the by...
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@Monkey:
She's a thug character of zero importance. She's as likely to be relevant again as likewise unimportant people like Gedatsu.
But no one was wondering when Gedatsu would show up, because he is a goofy man and not a pretty lady.
Okay I agree that Monet was a thug and that Gedatsu was goofy. I likely have a different opinion on what makes a character important than you so I won't say you are wrong there, since by your definition would say you are right. IMO, she was important for the PH storyline since she hindered the escape with the kdis…but that was about it. Gedatsu though.... Yes there are people saying he'll reappear at some point in some way. As another pointed out, he was featured in a cover arc, and many that appear in a cover arc show up in some way later on. I remember people saying the same about Hatchi= "He was goofy and unimportant, he won't show up again.". This was far back as Arabastra, we had to wait a long time but Hatchi did show back up.
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Okay I agree that Monet was a thug and that Gedatsu was goofy. I likely have a different opinion on what makes a character important than you so I won't say you are wrong there, since by your definition would say you are right. IMO, she was important for the PH storyline since she hindered the escape with the kdis…but that was about it.
Yeah, and that's not really important. I mean it serves the pulpy purpose of some action scenes, but you could edit it out and not really effect the plot. Right?
Gedatsu though…. Yes there are people saying he'll reappear at some point in some way. As another pointed out, he was featured in a cover arc, and many that appear in a cover arc show up in some way later on. I remember people saying the same about Hatchi= "He was goofy and unimportant, he won't show up again.". This was far back as Arabastra, we had to wait a long time but Hatchi did show back up.
There was a point with Oda's cover stories where he seemed to be using them purposefully to set up things he was planning on anyway.
Buggy's return and alliance with Alvida….Coby and Helmeppo joining with Garp....Jango and Fullbody joining the Marines...the BW members in Impel Down...Hatchi...
But over the years increasingly they've definitely become more a thing he just does to have fun. Or maybe even because people expected him to do them.
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By this guys logic, Vegita and Piccolo from Dragonball were completely evil with no redeemable qualities…
Monet is still dead by the by...
Toriyama =/= Oda