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Post how your day was…
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Teaching is fun, though the only academic experiences I have with it are in one on one tutoring sessions. But I always really enjoyed those when the students were willing to learn and not just looking for answers to their homework.
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One on one is pretty chill. When you have over 10 kids in the classroom to aid with homework though in the span of 2 hours….
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Since we're talking about it, but how frustrating is it for teachers to deal with stupid students?
I mean, I know how frustrating it sometimes is when you try to explain something and the other party just won't get it, not even talking about high academic knowledge
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Some teachers just go by the notion that if i explain it the exact same way but slower it'll eventually seep in
But the good ones try different ways til they find one that works.
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That's why the USA sucks when it comes to teachers, at least everything below college compared to the rest of the world. They have to deal with 20+ kids in a classroom on average (I think it was 24). College in the US is when kid's catch up with the other countries sadly lol.
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That's why the USA sucks when it comes to teachers, at least everything below college compared to the rest of the world. They have to deal with 20+ kids in a classroom on average (I think it was 24). College in the US is when kid's catch up with the other countries sadly lol.
Oh please, we have 25-30 kids in an average classroom and see how we rank.
I'd say it's the lack of uniform standards and quality employees in a country so big that makes it as bad as it is. Not to mention the fact that the curriculum planning isn't always carried out by people who have realistic understanding of what kids of certain ages should be expected to learn and master and who would know what kinds of methods generally work and what don't.
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Seems like most every country out there thinks that their countries education system is the worst
Except for Finland
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Ours will be the worst in a couple of decades. Just you wait~
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Oh please, we have 25-30 kids in an average classroom and see how we rank.
I'd say it's the lack of uniform standards and quality employees in a country so big that makes it as bad as it is. Not to mention the fact that the curriculum planning isn't always carried out by people who have realistic understanding of what kids of certain ages should be expected to learn and master and who would know what kinds of methods generally work and what don't.
Really?
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damn that's impressive
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That's why the USA sucks when it comes to teachers, at least everything below college compared to the rest of the world. They have to deal with 20+ kids in a classroom on average (I think it was 24). College in the US is when kid's catch up with the other countries sadly lol.
Um yeah over here we have at least 40 kids per class in secondary school (the equivalent of high school). I now know that it's a lot higher than in other countries, but while in school I never thought of it as abnormal. 20 isn't really a lot…
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Most of that is total and absolute rubbish, though. I'll get back to why as soon as I get this essay done.
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Um yeah over here we have at least 40 kids per class in secondary school (the equivalent of high school). I now know that it's a lot higher than in other countries, but while in school I never thought of it as abnormal. 20 isn't really a lot…
You mean in singapore? The most babied country in the entire world? Or China, where I have no statistics on hand for that
Most of that is total and absolute rubbish, though. I'll get back to why as soon as I get this essay done.
As long are you're able to fight sourced facts with sourced facts I don't mind.
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Isn't the reason that most Scandinavians go on to college because we've got no other venues open lol
For that matter since when are lawyers esteemed
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Students are evil evil things.
Strange how your perspective changes when you are on the other side of the fence. xP
I never denied that~
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@wolfwoof:
Isn't the reason that most Scandinavians go on to college because we've got no other venues open lol
For that matter since when are lawyers esteemed
In the US at least, Doctors/Lawyers are esteemed jobs because the pay is so great. Although there are options available for both, with Obamacare and nearly every school in the USA pushing out lawyers like a factory, it's starting to become a fallacy in my opinion. My family friend has a Masters in social work, and makes barely more than I do (like 3-5 grand), but she's dating a District Attorney who makes like 140k and he's not even 30 yet :|
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You mean in singapore? The most babied country in the entire world? Or China, where I have no statistics on hand for that
That has nothing to do with what I was saying? I just meant that it seems odd to blame the poor academic results in the US that you were talking about on "large" classroom sizes that supposedly make classroom management difficult.~ But hey, I don't know what it's like over there. Was just pointing out that 20 is hardly outrageous.
@thread Had a pretty good day. Sent in my thesis for hardbinding, then we went for a nice lunch. I had amazing carbonara with the most delicious ham I've ever tasted. Then we went to this National Geographic store which is having a closing down sale. There were a bunch of posters marked down from $17 to $6, so I got a couple to put up when I move and get a new room~ Yay.
Although, since I got home I've been all woozy. I nearly fell over like three times, just from things like balancing on one foot for a second. And when I lie down on my side, the world turns upside-down.
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Oh you meant as in well paid. Guess they are that
Thought you meant that lawyers as a profession were respected.
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Clearly Dryish is our new overlord
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There are places in America that have ONLY 20 kids per class? Shit must be either a private school statistic or I was screwed out of some elbow room.
Personally, I think low-quality teachers, low-quality curriculum, lack of genuine critical thinking lessons and district corruption failing to see budgets actually spent on education are to blame. I'd say all school before college operates as a vehicle to condition students into being obedient workers rather than innovative contributors.
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That has nothing to do with what I was saying? I just meant that it seems odd to blame the poor academic results in the US that you were talking about on "large" classroom sizes that supposedly make classroom management difficult.~ But hey, I don't know what it's like over there. Was just pointing out that 20 is hardly outrageous.
It is actually. From my understanding singapore focus' more on peer to peer grading than teachers. I talk and hear a lot of rants about this from singapore students. In fact from my understanding females are treated overall much better than the males in almost all instances.
The bottomline is most teachers don't have pride in their job because they get paid way less than they deserve, and it takes a toll on them. This in addition to managing 20-35 kids under a ridiculous federal blanket that put's pressure on Teachers to produce "numbers" to justify their job. Hence why there are state wide cheating scandels which invalidates an entire graduation classes results, whether you participate or not.
@unclekenny:
There are places in America that have ONLY 20 kids per class? Shit must be either a private school statistic
EDIT: Correction in NYC. And those are probably skewed by unpopular classes, such as ones that count only as a extracurricular rather than a staple.
In other news it's tax day. So if you haven't filed your taxes by the end of today, well, I'll probably be dispatched to either collect or murder you HEHEHHEHEHE
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@Khaini:
The bottomline is most teachers don't have pride in their job because they get paid way less than they deserve, and it takes a toll on them.
I'm not sure when you got your info; over the past five years at least, the government has been vastly increasing pay benefits to teachers to encourage more people to join the profession. You get paid just while studying to be a teacher. And the pay scale just keeps going up and up as you progress.
EDIT: Also, my teachers told us many many times that whether we did well in the end or not would not affect their jobs at all.
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@Uncle:
There are places in America that have ONLY 20 kids per class? Shit must be either a private school statistic or I was screwed out of some elbow room.
Personally, I think low-quality teachers, low-quality curriculum, lack of genuine critical thinking lessons and district corruption failing to see budgets actually spent on education are to blame. I'd say all school before college operates as a vehicle to condition students into being obedient workers rather than innovative contributors.
I can agree with all this.~ Not just in the US (since idk about that) but over here yeah, I can see some if not most of that happening, when I was in school as well as today. It's really quite sad and worrying. Class size was just never an issue here.
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Ya i agree the most boring part about school was the way you were only supposed to know enough to make the grade
Don't stray from the curriculum and go free-range learning now or i'll have to reel you in
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I'm not sure when you got your info; over the past five years at least, the government has been vastly increasing pay benefits to teachers to encourage more people to join the profession. You get paid just while studying to be a teacher. And the pay scale just keeps going up and up as you progress.
In the United States? Yeah, the salary is going up because the cost of living is going up faster. I mean I don't know how you can honestly believe that teachers are treated fairly after the Chicago strike that happened not even what, 6-7 months ago?
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In the United States? Yeah, the salary is going up because the cost of living is going up faster. I mean I don't know how you can honestly believe that teachers are treated fairly after the Chicago strike that happened not even what, 6-7 months ago?
No, I'm talking about Singapore?
Oh nevermind, I thought your second paragraph in the earlier post was a criticism about us, following from the first.
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Been watching Doctor Who from the beginning (aka the first season of the modern version),
because i haven't watched it since the 10th regenerated and my memory is now rusty.
I keep seeing nice clips of the 11th on youtube, so i've decided i need to finally try and catch up, while also reminding myself of everything that's happened so far.I totally forgot how brilliant the 9th was at times. The right mix of seriousness and sarcasm.
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Pelicans are fat birds.
I saw one roosting on a rail near me, didn't care that I was watching him. Then he flew towards me like he was hungry or something. Had he not changed his flight path, I was about to obtain an interesting story about, "that time I punched a pelican".
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Preschool students are wonderful little babies. Then Elementary… Oh God they are little, spoiled, beep, beeeeep, beep brats. And that is the majority. Dunno about Junior High and High School students tho :X
A day late, but who cares,
Junior High are still pretty decent, but they're a bit…snarky. They start exhibiting the "we're getting closer to the age of adults so treat us that way, BUT PLEASE don't put any responsibility on our heads which comes with the title" syndrome. This is also the age where sex jokes are relatively "new" and "funny" to them, but since they are still young...it comes off really awkward. However, this is a good age since you can still make a majority them cry and feel bad about fucking up before they become jaded "I don't care" high schoolers. Most of the time, only 1/5 students try stunts on the teacher and these are normally the renown "bad" kids, but they're rare.High schoolers pretty much are set at this point. About 1/3 about what the teachers say and the 2/3 are convinced they know everything. This is also the age where they generally stop caring what their parents think so threatening to contact their parents becomes a menial thing. They also take greater risks in trying to get in trouble rather than being generally timid junior highers. So instead of 1/5 trying stunts on you, it is about 3/5 of them now. High schoolers are generally dicks, but if you become as jaded as they are...the days pretty much flow by much nicer. If kids are sinking and they aren't doing anything to improve, then shrug them off and help that ones that are actually trying (which JHs you can actually mold their perspective on things).
PS: the average is 24 students? WTF? I had like 28-31 students in ALL my classes. I suppose those "extracurricular" classes somehow are included in the data...you know, the Japanese classes with 7 students or something?
PSS: I'm teaching Elementary kids abroad now and...dear god they're annoying. Junior Highers were a pain in the ass, but not nearly as much as Primary kids. Teaching is an overall difficult endeavor, but it becomes easier once you stop caring about the fuck ups in class.
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I always thought that the whole evening school thing in animes seemed a little weird
Is the Japanese school system that much harder that they need both full-time studies on the day and evening classes to top that of?
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@wolfwoof:
I always thought that the whole evening school thing in animes seemed a little weird
Is the Japanese school system that much harder that they need both full-time studies on the day and evening classes to top that of?
I can't speak for Japan (CCC will certainly know better than I do), but the ones in Korea have a lot of evening school courses that focus on particular subjects (Eng/Math/etc…) that will give them an edge over other students since competition is really stiff among the top players (no one gives two fucks about the lower end performers). It is all about obtaining a certain score in order to attend a particular high school (and then college). There are some evening courses offered in the school, but a fair number of them attend a sort of external institute that offers some sort of tutoring courses (if that is what you're referring to). Also kids attend schools on Saturdays up until High School, but I have no idea what they do since I'm never around on that day.
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Well this had been a lovely day.
Went to go to the bathroom before I ate lunch (at work) and someone had pissed and took a shit on the floor NEXT to the toilet. The toilet was perfectly clean and working properly. And the manager expected me to clean it up (but I refused P: counting pills is in my job description, not cleaning up shit)
It was disgusting but I could deal with guys nuking the mens room and stinking half the store up, but this takes the fucking cake. I figured people would do this kind of crap at Walmart (but they didn't, atleast at my store) but not where I'm at now >___>
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Pfft… Class sizes. I remember being in a class of 65 students in elementary school. And every one of my classes till I finished high school had more than 50 students in them.
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Pfft… Class sizes. I remember being in a class of 65 students in elementary school. And every one of my classes till I finished high school had more than 50 students in them.
And yet science students graduating from my high school know more calculus than an American college sophomore in engineering.That's Indians for you. Seriously, I took a lot of pride in my Indian kids. They pretty much kicked the other kids asses in terms of academic performance on all level (as well as a few of the East Asian kids…notably the Chinese ones and a handful of Koreans). Normally I hate giving 100%s on huge projects, but only one kid managed to pull off a hundred and he was Indian. Tried to deliberately find a way to knock him down to 99%, but couldn't find any fault with his work. These kids have remarkable work ethics (probably coming from their parents). Funny thing is I asked them what they all wanted to be when they grow up and they all unanimously wanted to become software engineers...lol
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Welp, looks like I have to step up to the plate. The chef had to be flown off the platform due to intestinal pain so I'm taking over the cooking. I made philly cheese steaks for lunch and will be bbq'uing regular steaks for dinner.
I'm also going to make boiled broccoli, sauted mushrooms, cheese sauce, baked potatoes and probably some grilled chicken for the guys that don't like steak.
Cooking and cleaning for 20 people. I have to stay up to do some end-of-hitch cleaning and wake up at 3:30 to cook breakfast. Been sleeping like shit lately.
Wish me luck.
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Go get em Kenny, prove your stovetop fortitude!!!
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Sigh
I wish I knew why it must be windy every day there is garbage pickup. Without fail.
I guess mother nature knows how much I love walking over to my neighbor's yard to pick up trash cans every week. :getlost:
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@Uncle:
Welp, looks like I have to step up to the plate. The chef had to be flown off the platform due to intestinal pain so I'm taking over the cooking. I made philly cheese steaks for lunch and will be bbq'uing regular steaks for dinner.
I'm also going to make boiled broccoli, sauted mushrooms, cheese sauce, baked potatoes and probably some grilled chicken for the guys that don't like steak.
Cooking and cleaning for 20 people. I have to stay up to do some end-of-hitch cleaning and wake up at 3:30 to cook breakfast. Been sleeping like shit lately.
Wish me luck.
Good luck man.
What exactly do you do there anyway, job wise, on a regular basis ? I don't believe I ever caught that.
Also: wish I knew how to cook.
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Just your average menial shit. I do laundry, on the sea, mop floors, on the sea, wash dishes, on the sea, etc.
So I'm a cabin boy you could say.
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@Uncle:
Just your average menial shit. I do laundry, on the sea, mop floors, on the sea, wash dishes, on the sea, etc.
So I'm a cabin boy you could say.
I thought you did something way worse, manual labour style. I mean I get it's not paradise probably but I mean like much worse.
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@MDL:
Tries searching for a post
"searching has been disabled"
…okay then?There's a thread about that in the Suggestions forum. The administrators have temporarily disabled the forum's search feature to see if it will help with the stress that is put on the servers every time spoilers come out.
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Dinner was a smashing success. I ended up cooking more than intended, included some grilled fish and two different kinds of sausage.
The guys have been joking around that I'm the new steward (cook) and said if the chef calls, they'll say there's a problem.
And if he asks if it's because I'm fucking up, they'll say, “No, it's not that. You didn't tell us Kenny could cook. Don't worry about coming back.” =)
Also, looks like I'll be cooking all day tomorrow.
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That's awesome, Kenny. I'm really happy for you. :) Follow those dreams!
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Only… I have no dreams of becoming a chef. It's something I just passively enjoy.
I have, however, been working on issue 2 of Thriller Blend and have been surging with ideas lately.
I believe it'll be a fun ride and hopefully worth at least half if the ridiculous 3 year wait.
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Still, having a job that involves an activity that you passively enjoy is not something the majority can boast.
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I spent the ngight peirodically throwing wup because id decidied to each mway more ahtn i shoudl. I am ana idiot.