X, Y and Z are the axis that describe the 3rd Dimension.
This game is making the shift of the main series to a three-dimensional setting. And it's for the Nintendo 3DS.
They're pretty much following a theme there.
Yeah, I noticed. But everyone and their mothers were bought into Grey as well and look what happened. No way GameFreak passes up on the opportunity to make money
Aw man the starters look awesome!! Chespin's probably my fav :D
Yeah, I noticed. But everyone and their mothers were bought into Grey as well and look what happened. No way GameFreak passes up on the opportunity to make money
They don't need to pass anything, Robby said that before knowing about X and Y, he could change opinion now like we did.
X, Y, Z, new Ruby and Saphire remakes(if they want to do it).
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They don't need to pass anything, Robby said that before knowing about X and Y, he could change opinion now like we did.
X, Y, Z, new Ruby and Saphire remakes(if they want to do it).
B2 and W2 were incredible successes and the two games were BARELY different. In the grand scheme of things, the time to make an extra game is childs play if it racks up more cash in the end. Smart businesses dont take a step back like that…I guess we'll see in 2 years or so
I think I'm going to stay away from spoilers so that when I play all the new pokemon will be surprises
Also I'm thinking of coding it up so that all Pokemon encounters are totally random (because it's fun)
Is it really X and Y because the deer is shaped like an X and the bird like a Y? That's…interesting I guess.
Looks sweet though.
Watching this trailer, do the 3D graphics makes much of a difference? I mean you still only walk left, right, up and down, no diagonal directions.
SERIOUSLY!
Oh and I presume X and Y, will represent the Sky (vertical) and and Land (horizontal), maybe?
Gen VI's coming our way, it seems. I like the X/Y orientiation theme and it being on the 3DS, but I'll miss the color names.
Watching this trailer, do the 3D graphics makes much of a difference? I mean you still only walk left, right, up and down, no diagonal directions.
SERIOUSLY!
We'll finally be able to jump lol, so we'll be able to go north, south, east, west, up and down. We won't be restricted to 4 directions anymore (just 6 now).
The environmental style reminds me a whole lot of Golden Sun Dark Dawn, but a tiny bit better. And I really like it, as far as environments in forests and stuff goes. The cities didn't look too impressive, but this is an early build I'm guessing. The battles however look kinda cheap :/. I mean, it looks more faster paced than the likes of Colosseum and PBR, but I'm not feeling it as much as the sprite art the series is known for. And I'm more thinking of effects, more so the actual 3D models(which looks fine).
I'm not too exited, I'm guessing making gen 6 now was a good move and something we should have seen coming the moment BW2 was announced. Because well, remaking a previous gen would not have been very smart or successful.. Especially since there's that gap between the near end of the DS's life cycle, and the 3DS. So it was either to continue milk BW for what it was worth, or make a brand new generation on the 3DS in order to sell the handheld. If a remake was released exclusively on the 3DS, then… well... who would buy a 3DS for that?
I like the starters so far. But I'm having trouble warping my finger around what the heck the grass thing is supposed to be. A beaver? Dual Water type(nah, that would be a little broken for a starter)? Maybe a mole? A dual grass/ground type sounds potentially interesting. And frog looks really cool, and I think the evolutions would look as well too. I'm exited because gen 5 had a new frog Pokemon, but it had terrible stats, EVEN with THREE evolution stages. I'm guessing this guy is going to make up for that. The fox is really pretty, but I'm not interested in it. He gives me that "Smugleaf" vibe. That and I never used pure fire types at all due to their lack of utility and mainly being strictly Special Attackers.
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We'll finally be able to jump lol, so we'll be able to go north, south, east, west, up and down. We won't be restricted to 4 directions anymore (just 6 now).
Isn't jumping just for specific gaps? (Like Golden sun?)
What gives me high hopes for Froakie is that he looks like he might end up being an old man frog and his little cloud tuft beard thing looks like bifocals.
I imagine his final evolution is gonna be wicked
I can totally see the frog, water-type starter gain a fighting sub-type. And his final form look like a chubby, bullfrog wrestler.
@The:
I can totally see the frog, water-type starter gain a fighting sub-type. And his final form look like a chubby, bullfrog wrestler.
He seems agilie, we got two pokemon like that, Emboar Sumo/wrestler pig and Seismitoad that even though wans't a fighting type had punches and had the gimmick of making his punches stronger with the vibration.
I'm going for a thin agile frog, still water fighting hopefully.
I would honestly prefer it remaining a pure water type that learns a variety of martial-artish physicals. Dueling it with fighting is potentially useless outside the stab.
I realized that simultaneous release means that we'll be playing this thin largely blind. That'll certainly make the journey more interesting.
But cripes, to think that the 3DS will have Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, and Pokemon coming out in the span of one year, the latter two only a few months apart. It's going to be white-hot.
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Looks good.
i'll get a 3DS now. (And the DQ remake is also a motivator.)
And now to avoid any further information. I'd like to be surprised when the time comes by the new stuff, instead of knowing everything in advance. 3rd gen is the only one I've played without any knowledge of the critters and it was great. 4th and 5th I knew everything and kept waiting for specific things… some of which showed up really late. Simultaneous release will help with that.
All the starters look cool, as do the legendaries.
I just realized that X and Y could also refer to the chromosomes that define gender, so maybe this game could have a Genetics theme instead of a Dimension theme (I prefer the latter, though), making a Z version not that likely.
I thought at first this will be more like a Pokemon Colosseum (the 3D thing looks a lot like it) but looks like I was wrong…anyway, I doubt it will ever happen but I always wondered if they will ever do any new types anymore. I always thought eventually they will eventually do a space or plasma type but the 2nd sounds to much like poison
@Jedi:
I thought at first this will be more like a Pokemon Colosseum (the 3D thing looks a lot like it) but looks like I was wrong…anyway, I doubt it will ever happen but I always wondered if they will ever do any new types anymore. I always thought eventually they will eventually do a space or plasma type but the 2nd sounds to much like poison
I feel like from a design perspective these two would be little too obtuse to understand in how they would relate to the other types for weaknesses and strengths. But then you could make an argument of how ghost and psychic are probably kind of like that, that said for me personally ghost and psychic make a whole lot more sense admittingly probably to the pokemon logic ingrained in my 6 year old self.
I always wondered though why we don't have any light type ones since we have a dark type.
That frog starter reminds me a lot of Benjamin Franklin.
I would honestly prefer it remaining a pure water type that learns a variety of martial-artish physicals. Dueling it with fighting is potentially useless outside the stab.
Meh you're just looking at it from a gameplay perception, things have to be diferent for the sake of being diferent also not just to not screw the pokemon because the typing gives it more weakness, I wouldn't mind the fox just being pure fire but giving it an aditional typing to diferentiate it from Vulpix would be cool(they are diferent one is a fox other is a Fennex fox, one has 3 stages the other 2 but you get it), the grass one could ground or rock for example.
Heck I would love if the fox somehow became an electric fire type.
I realized that simultaneous release means that we'll be playing this thin largely blind. That'll certainly make the journey more interesting.
But cripes, to think that the 3DS will have Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, and Pokemon coming out in the span of one year, the latter two only a few months apart. It's going to be white-hot.
For Europe its going to be a good year.
Pokemon X Y
Fire Emblem
Code of Princess
Luigi Mansion
Fantasy Life
Bravely Default
Animal Crossing
More I'm probably forgetting.
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@Cyan:
Water frog owns like a motherfucker
So much this.
I think I just legit fangasm'd.
Meh.
Do you know that I ignore your quotes to me whenever you start your sentances with "meh"?
Maybe Robby can pray REAL hard and he'll get some sort of Sandslash evolution.
They already made a ground/steel mole that got everything I ever wanted for Sandslash. (Stats, subtype, ability, natural moveset). And they actually fixed Sanshrew's moveset FINALLY in BW2. I'm not expecting anything more.
@The:
I think the deer looks hideous and the bird is for par
They're just the same old kind of legendaries as always, but does anybody ever really care that much about legendaries anymore or is it just my own apathy. Since Ruby and Sapphire I just kind of see them and go "yeah this sure is a boxart" and never think much past that.
Legendaries come so late in the game and I always feel guilty about abusing their naturally high stats so… I'll catch them but never use them.
I really like how these two look though. Mononoke deer especially.
Yo, Chespin, lemme holla at choo.
Think I'll be using that one. The starters seem pretty weak design-wise to me. But eh.This is coming really soon after BW though. I was hoping they'd remake Ruby/Sapphire. Alas. But I'm interested in this. Is this the first time a Pokemon game has a Worldwide release date?
EDIT: Of course, this needs more Swinub.
My issues with the legendaries are…. I'm kind of tired of the cyber-genetic look. It's like they take any silhouette, add one basic color scheme, and then proceed to make these glowing electrical lines on them. Why not make a design that feels like something that exists in nature, rather than the pretentious "ancient machine" or "futuristic animal" look?
I got over my initial apprehension of the frog. I'll give him a spin and keep my track record of always starting with the water starter since Blue.
Do you know that I ignore your quotes to me whenever you start your sentances with "meh"?
So you want me to write thats lame next time? or thats a stupid reason? oh no I dont you never told me.
My issues with the legendaries are…. I'm kind of tired of the cyber-genetic look. It's like they take any silhouette, add one basic color scheme, and then proceed to make these glowing electrical lines on them. Why not make a design that feels like something that exists in nature, rather than the pretentious "ancient machine" or "futuristic animal" look?
Not meh, my only problem is having 14 legendaries in Sinnoh and 14 in Isshu, they are overdoing with it, I think they want to make a good legendary tier but I think they have enough by now a trio this two, the Z one and 3 movie specials is more then enough, still a lot but better then 14.
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So you want me to write thats lame next time? or thats a stupid reason?
Like a Fire/Electric type? Because it's different? Because it's not lame or stupid?
@The:
Did you read mine?
I said, even if there is a sequel, it could be a single game called Z and not X2 and Y2. But I could still see a mid-quel as well, called Z. I could see it going both ways, but I can honestly see it called Z no matter which way they go.
Most likely a Directors cut like platinum.
Like a Fire/Electric type? Because it's different? Because it's not lame or stupid?
They don't need to make pokemon with just gameplay in mind, then we would get mostly pure water types for example, yes its about diversity, I just threw a random typing there I'm not thinking about its weakness or advatanges gaining the electric typing, its just something diferent and yes I'm aware Poliwrath exists.
If an artists is designing a pokemon with that in mind I'm sure it limits them.
Btw you did read my post :D.
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They don't need to make pokemon with just gameplay in mind, then we would get mostly pure water types for example, yes its about diversity, I just threw a random typing there I'm not thinking about its weakness or advatanges gaining the electric typing, its just something diferent and yes I'm aware Poliwrath exists.
If an artists is designing a pokemon with that in mind I'm sure it limits them.
Btw you did read my post :D.
First sentence and last small paragraph.
And I disagree. Pokemon HAS to be made with gameplay and balancing in mind. It's like making a card game. Mianly due to the competive nature of the games, and how amazining deep the turned based system can be.
First sentence and last small paragraph.
And I disagree. Pokemon HAS to be made with gameplay and balancing in mind. It's like making a card game. Mianly due to the competive nature of the games, and how amazining deep the turned based system can be.
Well I may have exagerated in that yeah, balance as to exist and thats why a lot of pokemon can't compete with others most of the time but that can be achieved with stats and movesets, abilities.
Still again if you have a pokemon with a design based on a certain typing in mind and it looks good, why throw it away because of gameplay?
I know the typing ends up being the most important thing, Charizard for example even with his DW ability still gets raped pretty bad due to typing but again I don't think that should interfe with the artists concept of the pokemon, heck I think thats mainly why we got 3 fire/figthing starters in a row, it just happened they made the pokemon and it made sense to give them that typing.
I just hope the fire starter doesn't have a fighting subtype in its final form. We've gone down that road three times already.
Then there's the personal question for me. Follow all updates or let everything be a surprise? Guess I should also start saving up for a 3DS….
gen 1 forever gen others never
 
I just hope the fire starter doesn't have a fighting subtype in its final form. We've gone down that road three times already.
Then there's the personal question for me. Follow all updates or let everything be a surprise? Guess I should also start saving up for a 3DS….
I think it won't kinda hard to see the fox becoming that(incomes bipedal evolution fox with boxing gloves).
I'm going to spoil myself of the monthly CoroCoro reveals but if I don't the game on the release day I will definetly try not to look at anything from it.
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I think it won't kinda hard to see the fox becoming that(incomes bipedal evolution fox with boxing gloves)
Gamefreak works in unpredictable ways. I direct you to all the Gen I/II evolutions at the end of the Sinnoh dex.
By the way, there's 649 Pokemon right now…..what are the odds they'll make 151 again to make a clean total of 800?
i can if i never buy a DS!!!!
I may follow updates…..b/c I'm hoping for Psychic/Dark event legend with Soundproof ability
I got over my initial apprehension of the frog. I'll give him a spin and keep my track record of always starting with the water starter since Blue.
I'm enamored by Chespin…but I've also basically always picked the water starter (was 50/50 on Squirtle/Charmander) and would really hate if frogger turned out to be the best one. Agh, what a tough choice to make....first world problems :getlost:
By the way, there's 649 Pokemon right now…..what are the odds they'll make 151 again to make a clean total of 800?
Incredibly low. Given that the trailer showed lots of old things (presumably in the wild) and they want to keep merchandising Gen 5 (since it was a short gen) it'll probably be like most other even numbered gens. About 80 brand new things (9 of them starters, and 10 legends) then 20-30 evolutions of old things (for balancing/enhancing/tweaking.) For around 100 new things. But it'll surely be at least 100.
Gen 1-151
Gen 2-100
Gen 3-134
Gen 4-105
Gen 5-155
Gen 6-???
ESPECIALLY when you consider ita new system and modeling, so they can't reuse all the old sprite assets… they're going to have to make the old 650 from scratch! It'll probably be much closer to 100 than 150.
I may follow updates…..b/c I'm hoping for Psychic/Dark event legend with Soundproof ability
That's rather… specific.
They don't need to pass anything, Robby said that before knowing about X and Y, he could change opinion now like we did.
Erm… what exactly did I say? (I'm trying to follow a multi quote line here that I wasn't involved in)
Gamefreal isn't likely to do a straightup midquel game again, now that they know they can get away with TWO full blown sequels to a gen rather than just one. (And there may yet be a BW3 for the plain old DS owners... that would of course incorporate some of the new stuff.)
But of course they'll keep introducing new fresh generations every couple years.
Gamefreak works in unpredictable ways. I direct you to all the Gen I/II evolutions at the end of the Sinnoh dex.
By the way, there's 649 Pokemon right now…..what are the odds they'll make 151 again to make a clean total of 800?
Well it can happen I just think its not likelly, back in BW they had 17 artists doing pokemon with Sujimori supervision.
Would be cool they made a lot of pokemons for BW because they didn't use any old ones and it made sense since it was a diferent continent, since the continent changed again it would be nice to get some more. like I just wrote they had 17 artist back in BW and they said they did 10 or so each so its doable, problem is making all those 3D models along with the old ones, maybe if we get Gen7 in 3DS also they can do the same as before use XY models and just add a bigger number of pokemon.
With that said I hope we get atleast 120 which we have to cut like 15 due to them being legendaries, the amount of legendaries makes me want even more that the amount of pokemon is bigger.
When I first saw the frog one I was like 'omg it looks awesome omg it looks like it has spectacles what if it's a Water/Psychic type?'
Out of the three, it's my favourite.
The fire one is following the same 'snooty' pattern as the previous generation grass Pokemon (I've been up more than 14 hours I'm sleepy shoosh) and whatnot, and the grass one looks weird… maybe because out of all of the starter Pokemon, it's the most different (it's more brown than green, whereas most of the precious ones have always been primarily orange/green/blue)
edit - then again, saying that, the fire one is more yellow than orange but still.
I'm liking the oldschool design vibes from these starters! Should put a lid on all these "Gen 1 looked like______ Gen 5 looks like ______" comparison.
I'm totally hoping we get a customizable main character here, especially if the worldwide element gets mirrored into the gameplay. This is a feature I'd expect them to hype a little later on down the line.
@RobbyBevard:
Incredibly low. Given that the trailer showed lots of old things (presumably in the wild) and they want to keep merchandising Gen 5 (since it was a short gen) it'll probably be like most other even numbered gens. About 80 brand new things (9 of them starters, and 10 legends) then 20-30 evolutions of old things (for balancing/enhancing/tweaking.) For around 100 new things. But it'll surely be at least 100.
Gen 1-151
Gen 2-100
Gen 3-134
Gen 4-105
Gen 5-155
Gen 6-???ESPECIALLY when you consider ita new system and modeling, so they can't reuse all the old sprite assets… they're going to have to make the old 650 from scratch! It'll probably be much closer to 100 than 150.
Darn. It's just a minor thing I'd like, that's all.
But seeing Patrat, Pansear, Pikachu, Dratini, and Golurk in the trailer…..they're obviously gonna put pre-Gen VI pokemon in the wild, or something, but that raises another question. Will the region's dex be exclusive like in Black/White, or mixed heavily like in B2/W2?
I'm also curious to see how connectivity between past games will work. I can bet you it would be the vain of Poketransfer, that once you send your Pokemon off, you can't send them back.
I'm liking the oldschool design vibes from these starters! Should put a lid on all these "Gen 1 looked like______ Gen 5 looks like ______" comparison.
I'm totally hoping we get a customizable main character here, especially if the worldwide element gets mirrored into the gameplay. This is a feature I'd expect them to hype a little later on down the line.
I've liked every single starter Pokemon (almost)… they're always been the stars of each generation, as they should be - such unique designs
I hope we get a customizable main as well it would be freaking amazing and awesome <3
Crosses fingers for more penguin pokemon…
Crosses fingers for more penguin pokemon…
I agree I would totally play through the game with a team of Penguins
Darn. It's just a minor thing I'd like, that's all.
But seeing Patrat, Pansear, Pikachu, Dratini, and Golurk in the trailer…..they're obviously gonna put pre-Gen VI pokemon in the wild, or something, but that raises another question. Will the region's dex be exclusive like in Black/White, or mixed heavily like in B2/W2?
I'm also curious to see how connectivity between past games will work. I can bet you it would be the vain of Poketransfer, that once you send your Pokemon off, you can't send them back.
They migth not all be in the game though, since Scizor and other pokemon were advertised in DP pictures and videos and then they weren't catchable till after the league but yeah people seem to be keeping a list up in Serebii seems like we have atleast 41 confirmed pokemon from old regions if all those do appear, plus the other two monkeys would make it 45(since Pansear is confirmed).
Golurk, Palpitoad and Eevee and their pre evo and evos are confirmed since they are in the that statue of that hero, there the guy Palpitoad a Golurk behing and an Eevee on Golurk arm.
@bobandbill@serebii:
List of Prior-Gen Pokemon (41):
! 025 Pikachu*
026 Raichu
054 Psyduck*
055 Golduck
129 Magikarp*
130 Gyarados
133 Eevee*
134 Vaporeon
135 Jolteon
136 Flareon
143 Snorlax
147 Dratini*
148 Dragonair
149 Dragonite
! 172 Pichu
196 Espeon
197 Umbreon
215 Sneasel
! 280 Ralts*
281 Kirlia
282 Gardevoir
! 446 Munchlax*
461 Weavile*
470 Leafeon
471 Glaceon
475 Gallade
! 504 Patrat*
505 Watchog
513 Pansear*
514 Simisear
531 Audino*
535 Tympole
536 Palpitoad*
537 Seismitoad
607 Litwick*
608 Lampent
609 Chandelure
619 Mienfoo*
620 Mienshao
622 Golett
623 Golurk*List of Gen 6 Pokemon (11):
! ??? Chespin
??? ^ 2nd Stage
??? ^ Final Stage
??? Fennekin
??? ^ 2nd Stage
??? ^ Final Stage
??? Froakie
??? ^ 2nd Stage
??? ^ Final Stage
! ??? X Legendary
??? Y Legendary
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About the costumization, I think it migth just be clothing guys but atleast thats something.
