Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2

Foxy The Silver Fox

Will post this as a theory here-
I was thinking what if Doflamingo ability has to do with "Bone Control"? Like he can control or manipulate any bone anyhow he wants? Wouldn't that explain why he can control multiple people and make them fight each other? The cutting part will be- he breaks small particles of a bone inside you and turns it into a blade then he cuts you from inside out(someone who can control a bone can do this easily). This will explain why we haven't seen Doflamingo cut or control non-living objects.

DARK_RITUAL

@Foxy:

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TheCrystalShip

@DARK_RITUAL:

Will post this as a theory here-
I was thinking what if Doflamingo ability has to do with "Bone Control"? Like he can control or manipulate any bone anyhow he wants? Wouldn't that explain why he can control multiple people and make them fight each other? The cutting part will be- he breaks small particles of a bone inside you and turns it into a blade then he cuts you from inside out(someone who can control a bone can do this easily). This will explain why we haven't seen Doflamingo cut or control non-living objects.

Sounds like the same old "blood-bending" theory.

DARK_RITUAL

@TheCrystalShip:

Sounds like the same old "blood-bending" theory.

Nothing wrong with having a blood paramecia and Bone paramecia just like we've seen ice logia and snow logia.

TheCrystalShip

@DARK_RITUAL:

Nothing wrong with having a blood paramecia and Bone paramecia just like we've seen ice logia and snow logia.

Nobody has had either of those yet, so it's a non-issue.

It's probably a string fruit, but it would be interesting if it were directly related to the human body.

RomanceDawn

Hahaha! I imagine Dark Rituals theory spoken by Dale from King of the Hill. Oh man, then that Will Smith gif kills me.

Strawhat Chan

Zephyr, Sengoku and Kong were serving as Admirals together, until Zephyr left the position 4 years after being promoted and Kong was promoted to the position of Fleet Admiral over 27 years ago (that would mean he was serving as Admiral for less than 10 years perhaps?)

Say…

37 years ago, Kong (42 y/o) is promoted to Admiral.
36 years ago, Z (38 y/o) is promoted to Admiral.
35 years ago, Sengoku (41 y/o) is promoted to Admiral.
31 years ago, Z resigns from the position of Admiral.
27 years ago, Kong (52) is promoted to Fleet Admiral following the previous Fleet Admiral's resignation/death/promotion.
Less than 14 years ago, Kong becomes Commander-in-Chief; Sengoku replaces him as Fleet Admiral; Kizaru, Akainu and Aokiji become Admirals.

Of course the ages are completely speculative, except for Z's age.

Foxy The Silver Fox

I guess it's safe to assume that some time after Punk Hazard, we will get a cover story with Vergo, Monet, and The Yeti Cool Brothers.

desa

Yeti cool brothers are Ceasar's henchmen and live in snowy mountains. I doubt they'll team up with Monet and Vergo.

The Laughing Man

Here's something from me!

Kaidou is a dwarf. One of his favorite islands is snow-covered and mountainous, and, it seems he (and those under him) likes to construct 'stuff'–similar to dwarves in most series they are in.

Kaidou and his will have a steampunk technology and sci-fi theme. (This kinda-sorta goes hand-and-hand with my theory of him being a dwarf and liking technology + construction).

The main 'city' of Kaidou will be an underground, steampunk + sci-fi themed city. (This also goes with my theory of him being a dwarf, since they do exist in the One Piece universe, and how dwarfs almost always live underground).

Kaidou's Devil Fruit will be a Logia type (if he has one), or, a Paramecia type that has something to do with construction and the creation of items (i.e. he imagines it, and it becomes reality). If not, Kaidou will be like Don Krieg (though much much MUCH stronger and intelligent)--wearing a highly technological suit, with gadgets and the like making up his arsenal (and very strong Haki).

Katzztar

@desa:

Yeti cool brothers are Ceasar's henchmen and live in snowy mountains. I doubt they'll team up with Monet and Vergo.

They may be with Caeser, but Caeser works for Doflo. Withouth Caeser, they will need to go somewhere if they are still alive, so its possible to hang around Vergo & Monet.
Yes I do agree that its really unlikely but its still possible

I mean, look at the numbered agents of Baroque Works. The various teams 1-5 hadn't really known each outer despite working for same organization. While teams 3 (Mr.3/Ms Goldenweek) and 5 (Mr.5/Ms Valentine, seemed to know each other some, they didn't know the other teams. The meeting of 1,2, &4 at Paula's Diner seemed it was first time they met each other. In the mini-arc of "Meet Baroque Works" where Ms. Goldenweek desides to break out the others, it was shown they didn't know each other.
It was at end of series they all (minus Croc, Daz, Bonchan & Galdino) decided to hang out together. So the possiblity is there….no matter how small it exists

desa

Well like you said. They worked for the same organization. And number seems to know each other. While if i remember correctly the yetis seems more like assassins that CC pays to do the job.

Foxy The Silver Fox

@desa:

Yeti cool brothers are Ceasar's henchmen and live in snowy mountains. I doubt they'll team up with Monet and Vergo.

That never mattered with other characters. Coby and Helmeppo weren't allies and they had their own cover story.

Kurohige32

smile fruit users theory: they'll be hyped to be like strong henchmen but end up fodder , because the animal side of them will stop there human side from thinking normally and they'll end up more like real animals and obey the strongest haki user

savietnam

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1PceXperience

I have never realized this, but BB has three skulls on his flag

Does this foreshadow anything? (Maybe BB being the future user of 3 devil fruits?) Is there more being told in this Jolly Roger?

TheCrystalShip

@1PceXperience:

Does this foreshadow anything? (Maybe BB being the future user of 3 devil fruits?) Is there more being told in this Jolly Roger?

There's a theory that Blackbeard possesses the Cerberus Mythical Zoan, and that it allowed him to consume two more DFs. People used his Jolly Roger and the claw marks on Shanks's face to bolster their theory, but we now know that Blackbeard had a claw weapon in the past, and that his ability to consume multiple DFs is due to his "abnormal body" as mentioned by Marco. Ace also stated that Blackbeard had lived twice as long as a normal person, which is not congruent with most interpretations of the Cerberus.

On the other hand, it could be foreshadowing whatever aspect of his body is abnormal and allowed him to live so long. Or it could simply be, yes, foreshadowing that he will possess three DFs. I am thinking Logia/Paramecia/Zoan.

beck26

i agree. i believe the theory, i think blackbeard got the cerberus zoan fruit. you can see it in his face that he could transform into such.

or its either he's born with a "weird body" as marco said….specifically i think he got 3 persons living in him. (3 personas or 3 personalities or any of that sh*t)

Jackermeister

I think Kaido will appear very soon. He is "Jack" and possibly the Yonko with SMILEs. Caribou is working for him and that's why we haven't gotten a cover story page for 3 chapters. Oda wasn't ready to introduce him yet. Apparently someone dangerous is starting to move and I think that's Kaido. He'll be "introduced" in the next 1-4 chapters.

v-die

@1PceXperience:

I have never realized this, but BB has three skulls on his flag

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Does this foreshadow anything? (Maybe BB being the future user of 3 devil fruits?) Is there more being told in this Jolly Roger?

I thought, along with the other comments about his strange body by Marco and even Luffy and Zoro's comments in Mock Town that he is a human chimera

BuSu

Sorry for interfering, but.. about Zoro's left eye. There's many possibilities.

1- His eye is seriously injured. Nothing special. (Less likely)
2- Some kind of a 'living sword' slashed his eye, 'killing' his eye. (This sounds ridiculous)
3- His eye has some kind of power which is hard for him to unlock. (Doesn't sound cool enough)
4- He injured his eye and Mihawk transfer his 'eye power' to him. (Possible plot-line, though Naruto-ish)
5- He made a contract with someone (could be anybody), and took his eye as a payment. (Doesn't sound like Zoro to me)
6- His eye is actually 'sleeping', opening the eye will give Zoro maximum strength. (This one is actually possible)
7- HE GOT A CYBORG'S EYE! (Alright I'm just being ridiculous)

From all of this possibilities I stated here (which I know makes no sense), I think number 6 is the one that sounds possible..

beck26

i choose number 1.

BuSu

@beck26:

i choose number 1.

Well I really hope his eye doesn't close for nothing..

Densuke

If it's anything other than an injury I'm going to be very disappointed. Zoro is beyond those lame power boosts.

He probably just got lonely without Sanji, turned to Mihawk for comfort and in return got a dagger in the eye.

1PceXperience

@beck26:

i choose number 1.

Number 1 sounds too boring.

Actually… when I think about it having an eye injury alone does sound bad ass!

desa

I choose 1. I'm sicked and tired of eyes power.

garonne

@TheCrystalShip:

There's a theory that Blackbeard possesses the Cerberus Mythical Zoan, and that it allowed him to consume two more DFs. People used his Jolly Roger and the claw marks on Shanks's face to bolster their theory, but we now know that Blackbeard had a claw weapon in the past, and that his ability to consume multiple DFs is due to his "abnormal body" as mentioned by Marco. Ace also stated that Blackbeard had lived twice as long as a normal person, which is not congruent with most interpretations of the Cerberus.

On the other hand, it could be foreshadowing whatever aspect of his body is abnormal and allowed him to live so long. Or it could simply be, yes, foreshadowing that he will possess three DFs. I am thinking Logia/Paramecia/Zoan.

im not sure when sure when ace said this or what he even meant by it, but oda mentioned in an SBS (volume 58) than BlackBeard was 38 yrs old pre timeskip, but the fact thats its said seems weird.

Katzztar

@garonne:

im not sure when sure when ace said this or what he even meant by it, but oda mentioned in an SBS (volume 58) than BlackBeard was 38 yrs old pre timeskip, but the fact thats its said seems weird.

No way is BB 38 pre-timeskip AND was part of WB's crew in Strong World ch 0. That would make him barely 18 in that chapter! Heck he looks too old for 25 there….
He's shown in the flashback in Strong World and he looked full grown there... He's behind Shiki's bottle
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Foxy The Silver Fox

@Katzztar:

No way is BB 38 pre-timeskip AND was part of WB's crew in Strong World ch 0. That would make him barely 18 in that chapter! Heck he looks too old for 25 there….
He's shown in the flashback in Strong World and he looked full grown there... He's behind Shiki's bottle
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It doesn't matter what you think, Oda confirmed it so it's true. Who are you to say what's true or not.

Katzztar

@Foxy:

It doesn't matter what you think, Oda confirmed it so it's true. Who are you to say what's true or not.

1- You don't have to be nasty about it.
2- Oda has made a few mistakes with canon before, like the flackback that showed Nami to have the Perfect Climatact during Arabastra when she had the original Climatact.
3- Oda says it in that very same SBS vol 58= "Right. There were a lot of questions about things within the war this time! But remember, I'm only answering this because I was asked, and there's no need to remember anything that I supplement in an SBS. The__information that I don't include in the main series are the parts that I decided would just confuse readers, so please just enjoy the SBS as a bonus."

1PceXperience

@Katzztar:

1- You don't have to be nasty about it.

16 char of I agree

Katzztar

@1PceXperience:

16 char of I agree

Thank you,
One thing I need to clarify is that I am questioning more than just what Oda says about BB's age, We assume that its BB on WB's crew 22 years ago. in my fist post, I mention that BB would have to be 18 in that chatper - and that man (I should not have called him BB in the first post) we assume to BB is too old to be 18…well two factors could be work here....
1-its a 3rd mistake Oda has made (He's the best mangka imo but he's human) that I can personally think of
or
2- that person in Strong World isn't Blackbeard (though he looks exactly like him)

KidCorpse

@nodensuke:

If it's anything other than an injury I'm going to be very disappointed. Zoro is beyond those lame power boosts.

He probably just got lonely without Sanji, turned to Mihawk for comfort and in return got a dagger in the eye.

I agree with your theory.

DARK_RITUAL

What about Marco? The dude looks the same in flashback, non-flashback, he never changes and his WB first Div commander, doesn't that mean he is Whitebeard first mate? which also means he fought with Rayleig during Roger pirates vs WB piratesh? And which again means his older than Shanks but yet he looks soooo young, so his DF makes one not to age? I guess this explains why the gorosei thinks Marco is one of the few who can stop BB even after he got 2 DF.

desa

@DARK_RITUAL:

I guess this explains why the gorosei thinks Marco is one of the few who can stop BB even after he got 2 DF.

Him and the rest of Whitebeard crew.

DARK_RITUAL

@desa:

Him and the rest of Whitebeard crew.

of course- but Marco will be the one to fight BB one on one and the rest of Whitebeard crew will fight those level six prisoners in BB crew, it's not like the gorosei expect Marco to face BB and his entire crew.

garonne

@Katzztar:

1- You don't have to be nasty about it.
2- Oda has made a few mistakes with canon before, like the flackback that showed Nami to have the Perfect Climatact during Arabastra when she had the original Climatact.
3- Oda says it in that very same SBS vol 58= "Right. There were a lot of questions about things within the war this time! But remember, I'm only answering this because I was asked, and there's no need to remember anything that I supplement in an SBS. The__information that I don't include in the main series are the parts that I decided would just confuse readers, so please just enjoy the SBS as a bonus."

if we are to doubt any information in the sbs, we'll have to take a step back and take everything in the sbs with a grain of salt. they may be true or they may not be, but for him to contradict his own work raises an eyebrow for me. if he simply made a mistake thats understandable, but to give doubt to the sbs says to me that everything might not be fully thought out when answered. this is a personal opinion if we are to doubt it.

with that said, im not doubting the sbs b/c i feel like he's more of a perfectionist with his work. it is possible that oda messed up his age or his artwork for his younger years but it is possible for (if he didnt mess up) that it could all be true. not sure if u watch basketball but two ppl come to mind that look old as fuck but are young ppl. greg oden and lebron james. look at their ages and u'll see how old they look when they are pretty damn young.

edit 1: shanks is also 39 and he was a rookie on roger's ship as an apprentice over 22 years ago. bb could have been an apprentice as well on whitebeards ship

desa

@DARK_RITUAL:

of course- but Marco will be the one to fight BB one on one and the rest of Whitebeard crew will fight those level six prisoners in BB crew, it's not like the gorosei expect Marco to face BB and his entire crew.

Assumption. 16 chars

Katzztar

@garonne:

edit 1: shanks is also 39 and he was a rookie on roger's ship as an apprentice over 22 years ago. bb could have been an apprentice as well on whitebeards ship

Ah but Shanks was shown to look real young in those years, not like a pot bellied fully grown man :)

garonne

ive brought this up in other threads but im not sure they were in the correct place. either way imma put it in here if anyone has any thoughts on it

didnt know where else to put this but, chopper's kung fu point seriously disturbs me so i went on a hunt as to why his kung fu point would look like this. no matter what information i find i cant seem to accept this shitty form's appearance; i mean the idea of what the form does is great but the actual appearance i hate it.

now on to what i found and deduced.

chopper was on torino island for his 2 year training period. it was also mentioned and as u can visually see, chopper in kung fu point looks like the villagers. i then remembered someone who looked similar, fukuro from cp9 saga. so i did a little more digging and found out that fukuro gained a black belt in martial arts as a kid in SBS volume 44. from this my deductions led me to predict

fukuro might be related/from torino island and that the ppl there practice some kind of unnamed martial art. chopper also learned this martial art and this led chopper into having kung fu point

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@Katzztar:

Ah but Shanks was shown to look real young in those years, not like a pot bellied fully grown man :)

he did look young, but he didnt look mid teens young. it could just be a mistake on oda's part in their art or he messed up his own timeline

Foxy The Silver Fox

@Katzztar:

Thank you,
One thing I need to clarify is that I am questioning more than just what Oda says about BB's age, We assume that its BB on WB's crew 22 years ago. in my fist post, I mention that BB would have to be 18 in that chatper - and that man (I should not have called him BB in the first post) we assume to BB is too old to be 18…well two factors could be work here....
1-its a 3rd mistake Oda has made (He's the best mangka imo but he's human) that I can personally think of
or
2- that person in Strong World isn't Blackbeard (though he looks exactly like him)

Luffy became a pirate at 17, what's so crazy about Blackbeard being a pirate at 18?

Densuke

@Foxy:

Luffy became a pirate at 17, what's so crazy about Blackbeard being a pirate at 18?

I don't think that's the point. I may be wrong, but I think it's more about how he looks in that panel. That's what I'm getting from it at least. He doesn't look like he aged over the past 22 years.

akagami7

well, marco said his body is abnormal, so…

Katzztar

@nodensuke:

I don't think that's the point. I may be wrong, but I think it's more about how he looks in that panel. That's what I'm getting from it at least. He doesn't look like he aged over the past 22 years.

That's exactly the point I was trying to get arcoss.Blackbeard hasn't changed in how he looked from that to the current day, it could be due to 3 different things=
1- The age is wrong
2- That is not BB in that panel
3- He aged real fast and stopped at age 18 but looked 40 and no aging afterwards.

Strawhat Chan

It's not like you can see much in those small panels anyway.

TheCrystalShip

@Foxy:

It doesn't matter what you think, Oda confirmed it so it's true. Who are you to say what's true or not.

LOL, guess what? Oda also wrote Ace's dialogue, so who's to say what Blackbeard's actual age is.

Kishido

Well over 20 years ago, which shouldn't be too long after Shiki's appearance at WB's ship, we clearly have seen him among Marco and Jozu at the scene where WB declared FI as his island to protect it.

http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/645/7

And there he isn't looking much diffrently either… So who cares... Maybe he was just damn "ugly ad hairy" at 18

beck26

i dont think there's a point in blackbeard's life where he's not damn ugly and hairy…LOL

flandrian15

'bout the age thing, it screams jewelry bonney to me for some reason…

DARK_RITUAL

You guys are overestimating jewelry Bonney DF, I mean there is noway her DF ability can be permanent, if she loses consciousness or Dies everyone she used her ability on will go back to normal(just like in FI, that fish lost consciousness then Noah started falling, same with Shiki), so it's stupid for People to want Bonney to make them young again, if her ability wears off those old people will start going back to there age but it will be too late cuz they are way over there age, so they all turn to ash and disppear from this world. (You can't put your faith on some pirate who may lose consciousness or die anytime). And I believe this why Z never asked Ain to make him younger cuz if she did then when Zoro knocked her out, Z would've gone back to being an old man and guess what? It turns out that Z is not used to fighting at old age n he gets owned..

Jewelry Bonney's DF is only good to herself and I think she's important cuz she knows a lot, not cuz she can make geezers younger.