No, no. Naruto has a story, just a really terrible one.
Bleach is the one that doesn't have a story.
Naruto chasing Sasuke like a little gay boy for over 300+ chapters doesn't consider to be story at all ( at least to me , it doesn't) .
No, no. Naruto has a story, just a really terrible one.
Bleach is the one that doesn't have a story.
Naruto chasing Sasuke like a little gay boy for over 300+ chapters doesn't consider to be story at all ( at least to me , it doesn't) .
@Money:
I mean they pull fillers into the middle of an arc
That is quite annoying. And even the characters are self aware that the anime was just interrupted.
Shippuden ruined Naruto. I loved the first one, nothing wrong with it. Then Naruto turned gay n Sasuke turned max Emo
The Blackest Night arc (the ninja war) is certainly the lowpoint of Naruto. It threw off my rhythm of counting down Akatsuki members.
I liked Naruto back when Orochimaru was the supposed "big baddie" of the serie. Weird guy with weird abilities (and a hint of pedophilia), but at least he wasn't bland face, magic eye-balls Mcgee. Once he was…um "defeated" by Sasuke, I lost interest.
Ah I remember the days of Orochiyoyo (during the sannin battle) and gutsy ninja. It's a shame everything will probably end in a Naruto and Sasuke centric manner, with either both dead or Naruto weeping over Sasuke's grave.
Madara whooped the kages. What can naruto guy n bee do? And whdre is everyone at?
@Moneyandspades: Naruto has plotkai and Bee will probably be the berserk button sacrifice, as much as I do not want that to happen. Madara used his giant supah doopah wtfpwnage giant thing agaist the kages so naturally naruto will need a supah doopah wtfpwnage giant thing to fight back. It works for Go Nagai but will not for Kishimoto, but he will do it anyway. Just for a laugh Im calling Madara and his supah dupah being destroyed by Naruto's supah dupah which will be after the sharingan implant of sasuke's eyes. It will be in the form of Susano firing a rasengan.
@Friend:
It works for Go Nagai but will not for Kishimoto, but he will do it anyway.
Go Nagai can do anything and still make it somehow work.
That's why I love him. I've read the same manga over and over and still loved it, i.e. Getter Robo lol. See that's the thing with mangaka like Go Nagai, a simple non convoluted, not pretentious piece of dynamic fun. As Ivanokov might sing: I am what I am!
Go Nagai, truly a living legend. I can go on and on about the guy's guts and intuition back in the day. Ken Ishikawa and Nagai really got something right with Getter Robo. Something about Nagai is pretty magical. All his works have an innocent, child-like appearance, but once you start reading his works you'll realize why he is called the perverted great-uncle of manga.
@Friend:
which will be after the sharingan implant of sasuke's eyes.
I bet Kakashi will be the one who dies and gives Naruto his shit eye
@Money:
Madara whooped the kages. What can naruto guy n bee do? And whdre is everyone at?
it was only a temporary loss for them. Unfortunately they all promised Naruto they would settle things with Madara which basically means it's inevitable we'll again see the Kage vs Madara once more
But tsunades dead n this is not one piece
So…How long has it been since the K-11 ran off to help Naruto? I'm still waiting on them to bust on through.
(Must resist Apple Maps joke >_>)
Theyve been running for about an hour. Mabye Madara killed them? So obito wants to kill everyone so he can get laid by a fake rin?
@Money:
But tsunades dead n this is not one piece
:wassat: not sure what you're getting at. If it were OP, then there's a high chance that she's still alive. Because if she were truly dead, it would be made very clear. So that means she is probably still alive.
But Naruto is still worse. While it often portrays character's death only to be revealed they're still alive (Choji, etc); dead characters don't really mean that much anymore, they can be resurrected (Pain), or be Edo Tensei'ed. So in short, she is also probably still alive (or worse, she's dead now but will be alive again later)
@Money:
But tsunades dead n this is not one piece
Naruto characters take the fatal blow, have a flashback, then die all within 1 or 2 chapters of each other (happened with Sarutobi, Asuma, Jiraiya, and Kakashi before he came back … even happened with Danzo for some reason) and Tsunade didn't even get her flashback. Plus this "war" hasn't killed anyone of importance so ... why start with Tsunade?
She was alive when we last saw her and not knowing much about that slug .. it probably possess orihime-like abilities and will just pull her back together.
@Friend:
The Blackest Night arc (the ninja war) is certainly the lowpoint of Naruto. It threw off my rhythm of counting down Akatsuki members.
Incidentally, I just finished reading Blackest Night. You know what I liked about that story?
-That there was actually a reason they were resurrecting characters who were close to heroes (in order to convert people into Black Lanterns, they had to get them to show an emotional response). Whereas with Naruto, it was a completely nonsensical coincidence and it actually proved to be detrimental to Kabuto.
-That it made sense that the villain could make an immortal army of zombies since he was like this omnipotent god of death and not some schmuck with a forbidden technique that no one thought to use until now.
-That the zombies had a clearly defined weakness that made sense and not some dumb "seal 'em or love 'em" crap.
-Hell, I just liked that the zombies were threatening.
Naruto characters take the fatal blow, have a flashback, then die all within 1 or 2 chapters of each other (happened with Sarutobi, Asuma, Jiraiya, and Kakashi before he came back … even happened with Danzo for some reason) and Tsunade didn't even get her flashback. Plus this "war" hasn't killed anyone of importance so ... why start with Tsunade?
She was alive when we last saw her and not knowing much about that slug .. it probably possess orihime-like abilities and will just pull her back together.
I read only a small handfull of Naruto and yet I now picture that giant slug with orange hair and bows in said hair.
'S WEIRD !
Yeah Nobodyman my opinion of Blackest Night has grown more positive over time. I usually hate retcons etc but I think that's the first DC or Marvel reboot I actually liked. Granted the Blackest Night prequels were much better, I really enjoyed Rage of the Red Lanterns and Agent Orange. Anyway the characters in Blackest Night did have good interactions and battles with the resurrected heroes, and I particularly liked the power struggle between the black rings and other rings, for example Meera becoming a red lantern rather than a black one. There were characters I never really got into until Blackest Night, because they became important. A total inversion of the Naruto "war" where characters I loved, eg Kimimaro were just rendered obsolete without a decent fight.
Besides Naruto, has there been any othrr character development since shippudden started?
Yes but then the characters were later rendered of little importance by plotkai.
@Money:
Besides Naruto, has there been any othrr character development since shippudden started?
After spending years developing a backbone and skillset during the timeskip, Sakura decided she was useless after all.
Does that count?
Man, remember when Kenpachi was still badass…
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Nowadays it's like his entire character is just getting bored of fights and subsequently finishing them offscreen.
Man, remember when Kenpachi was still badass…
! http://i14.mangapanda.com/bleach/148/bleach-12080.jpg
http://i38.mangapanda.com/bleach/148/bleach-12081.jpg
Nowadays it's like his entire character is just getting bored of fights and subsequently finishing them offscreen.
Wait, I don't get what happened there.
First, Kenpachi says appearances aren't important in a fight. Then he asks if, because Komamura looks like a beast, he's ferocious like one. Then Komamura says Kenpachi judges people by appearance.
What?
Basically Kenpachi only cares about fighting power, not appearance. And Komamura being dumb was there too.
@Friend:
The Blackest Night arc (the ninja war) is certainly the lowpoint of Naruto. It threw off my rhythm of counting down Akatsuki members.
Rofl! I literally laughed out loud at this. Probably the best joke I've heard all week.
Man, remember when Kenpachi was still badass…
! http://i14.mangapanda.com/bleach/148/bleach-12080.jpg
http://i38.mangapanda.com/bleach/148/bleach-12081.jpg
Nowadays it's like his entire character is just getting bored of fights and subsequently finishing them offscreen.
Im more taken back by the few dark panels that actually have clouds and a background
@Venomous:
Im more taken back by the few dark panels that actually have clouds and a background
And yet still most of the panels are extreme eye close-ups. One of Kubo's 4 favorite types of panels alongside the extreme mouth close-up, mystery foot cliffhanger, and, of course, attack from behind.
Crazy how it's so weird seeing backgrounds in Bleach yet there's still plenty of typical Kubo in the old chapters.
so maybe the long hike is over this chapter and Naruto and co. get help from the rookies who spent all that time running to them, and they all get surprisingly good character development and help defeat Madara with a strategic plan that puts to use all there different skills that effectively helps them beat the man who was capable enough to beat all five kage without so much as a scratch…...
or Naruto does everything and they come just in time to comment how amazing he is
seriously though, where do you think this is going next chapter
Itachi's crow thing appears after 3 months of flashbacks. 3 months later Obito is beaten by Kakashi then Naruto has the showdown with Madara. Naruto beats Madara's super thing with his own super thing plus rasengan. However in cheap villain fashion Madara kills Killer Bee, and takes his tailed beast, somehow bringing the other seven back. Naruto and kyubi vs madara and 8 of the tailed beasts. Just as they are about to fight we have another 3 months our time of sasuke who is killing everyone else to be stronger. Sasuke returns to observe madara vs naruto and waits for a tired naruto to finally defeat madara then sasuke tries to ambush naruto. However naruto has some sort of blood shield which blocks gaysauce and in sasuke fashion gets a randompower up. They kill each other off as Naruto last "promised". konoha gets two new faces on the mountain, gaysauce and narutard.
@Naruto:
I think the focus on Sasuke is what ruined Naruto. In part is focused on Naruto's goal to become Hokage.
The Sasuke and Sai Arc was boring and shit..
Why did Kishi create Sasuke. He could have just kept Naruto without Sasuke and Sakura like he planned from the beginning.
yep
That's one of the main reason which led to Kishi's down fallas a writer imo. I mean at one point you had some of fandom saying sasuke isthe main character with naruto following behind with the chase.
The thing is sasuke's role story wise was pretty much doneafter his fight with brother love onii chan, but Kishi knew that would takesasuke outside the action, so he further more develops more role for him tostay relevant within story, see how Kishi quickly change sasuke goals from dayone it was
Kill Onii -chan
Restore the clan
Now with that madara bullcrap of the uchiha massacre ohh since they order onii chan to killthe clan, am gonna have to take them down. not just the elders but the wholevillage
Another bullcrap story madara brought up this basically seal the deal within Naruto about how the Rukudo Sanin had two sons one had the power of the eye, and onewith the spirit of the body, at this point this revelation was okay had thisdestine fight been between
Naruto Vs Pain (Nagato, since I thought he awaken itnaturally, but this was before the new revelation we got with old man dying madara instilling his eye's into nagato when he was a kid without him knowing another f…. up a big one at that by Kishi is not even funny.
we know that the Rinangan is the original and most powerfuleye, and throughout time from one family to another it descended to a clanknowing as the uchiha, but now it's known as the sharingan, and within that eyeit can than also be activated to new heights aka EMS, as cheap as it sound Iwas okay with all this, but the idea a uchiha with hashirama cell's infuse within his body can after some time activate the Rinangan the original sourceof eye power was stupid on so many level's on Kishi part, yeah it might seemlike it makes sense, but if you analyze it with how everything began it was just another f..up by Kishi.
going back to sasuke I believe Kishi destroyed hischaracter, were currently in the four ninja war sasuke has been shown once ortwice, his now on a journey with orochimaru to the person who knows the wholetruth behind everything, who could it be, guess time will tell. either way kishi cuts I just don't see a good conclusive role for sasuke as a character unless kishi opts with the third choice but..
1 If edo madara dies before sasuke comes back that means wehave a f…. .. big problem sasuke technically would be the only threat left todeal with and would make him the last main villain of the story which wouldsuck balls, for the simply reason being his goals compareto edo madara seems like child play the kid is still in dreamland.
2 point one and two kinda link together, if kishi's planningfor the destine fight to be the finale fight for the naruto series, again that would truly be one the biggest disappointments in naruto, and would quite rightly explain why Kishi lost it as a writer. I mean we know naruto's goal,but sometime it feels like saving sasuke has even become more dear to him, longstory short if this fight was to happen no what sasuke would not die in the END, which would make everything pointless if that were to happen.
3 kishi actually has the balls again and this time havenaruto kill sasuke. this would be the best option's imo. but it also has a fewproblems of it's own.
One of Naruto's main goals isto save sasuke and bring him back to the village
even if sasuke dies if the destine fight was meant to be thelast one, it would be pointless since the kid goal's doesn't match up or being worthy of getting the finale villain role.
another idea I thought of maybe Kishi might pull is some how naruto and sasuke to work as team and take down, edo madara but wouldn't that seem a bite force and rush with were we at currently in he war.
either way Kishi cuts fireworks are such to explode.
on another topic about bleach
was there really any need for the big explosion within the underground prison, is like kubo was thinking of a way to free aizen, but just didn't have a solid idea.
so does the mean troll king aizen should have escape by nowI wonder if his still within SS, Karakura Town or HM to finally join forces with Bach.
About Naruto: I still think Sasuke can be saved, realistically Sasuke becoming the berserk button sacrifice. The most beautiful Naruto ending fanpic I ever saw was Naruto in tears carrying the corpse if Sasuke back to Konoha. I don't mind the obsession with Sasuke too much, which is different to Kishimoto's obsession with sasuke. Mind you Kishimoto doesn't seem to try to give sasuke "cool" battles because his track record is defeat after defeat. It would be quite funny after all Sasuke's attempted killing of ninja with nothing personally to do with the Uchiha massacre he didn't kill the 2 elders. He's already offed Danzou why not go for the set?
Wow, Naruto chapter is out already http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/609
naruto 609 is up on mangapanda.
Ugh…Very messy. But eh...not the worst chapter around lately.
What the fuck did I just read?
Oh my god, where is the ninja manga I used to read? this is like nuclear spirit bomb shit ugh
I don't really see why kakashi bothered coming back from the other dimension. Surely him staying there prevents tobi from using that technique. (exposing a vulnerable part of his body open for attack). Its like the moment they figured out how to beat him they just gave up and focused solely on the ten tails despite that being tobi's ultimate weapon. Wouldn't killing tobi have been a lot easier and quicker than trying to deal with three opponents at once?
Ugh i wont bother going any further down the road of nitpicking and stuff this late on in the series. Fingers crossed the ten tails goes berserk and attacks everyone including tobi resulting in all of them fusion together to form captain planet megazord. That or naruto summoning a giant armadillo penis, though i dont know how it would help…
...at least i'd get a few lols.
I completely forgot they were reviving the ten tails. this is why flashbacks should happen at the end of an arc and not smack dab in the middle to derail you from the current events.
enjoyed it overall, Naruto and Kakashi both gt to smack Obito a little :)
So. Last page showed Madara just sitting there chilling out n I had completely forgotten that he was also there 'fighting'.
Prediction: 10 tails will be defeated by giant monsters bout, all the other tail beasts will magically appear and they will gang bang the 10 tails, but quickly overpowered. So they fused together and form the….. 46 tails (I know 1-9 adds up to 45, but Kishi decided to give em a 1 tail bonus for the fusion). So 46 tails quickly overpowered the 10 tails, but for some reason it vanishes after 10 tails is defeated, so we're back to fighting Obito & Madara again
Okay, I'll admit the idea they came up with for fighting Obito in the real world and the other dimension was pretty neat.
But then Kakashi just transported himself back to the real world anyway. What?
Oh, and after so many chapters of horribly slow pacing, the Juubi is suddenly revived despite no one even mentioning it for the last few chapters.
This chapter was just a mess.
Still waiting for talk no jutsu. It almost looked like it occurred for a few moments, but not quite yet. Kubo is really setting it up for talk no jutsu: all these Naruto's blurbs juxtaposed immediately with silent Tobito faces.
Still waiting for talk no jutsu. It almost looked like it occurred for a few moments, but not quite yet. Kubo is really setting it up for talk no jutsu: all these Naruto's blurbs juxtaposed immediately with silent Tobito faces.
The final moments with naruto and tobi: An audience of a thousand naruto bunshins sit there chanting 10tails, 10tails, 10tails, with the 10tails as the shows host sporting slicked back hair, microphone and smart suit.
At some point naruto will claim he is pregnant with Kakashis child causing tobi to go in windmilling. Later on 10tails reveals surprise guests as bee, gai and madara as other possible fathers in this ordeal.
It'll end with some massive generic speech about love causing the fabric of space to dissolve into nothingness.
-Camera pans out of bubble-
Naruto wakes up from sleeping in to realize the chuunin exams are about to begin.
the end.
So. Last page showed Madara just sitting there chilling out n I had completely forgotten that he was also there 'fighting'.
Two weeks ago….
Kishimoto: Hey, I got a tweet from Kubo-sensei, he says he has an advice for my next chapter!
Feels like I have read or seen something like this before.
The whole person switching between dimensions and whenever it is in one someone attacks that one, when its in another someone attacks that one.
Oh yea I remember now. It was in a Drizzt book. Drizzt and Wulgar teamed up and "DEFEATED" their enemy doing it this way.
As others mentioned, not sure why Kakashi didn't stay in that dimension until they beat Tobi.
And Tobito said: "Stay in your trash bin Kakashi."
Did anyone else scratch their heads after reading this quote?
Bleach is out: http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/516/3 [hide]Kons back… WTF happened? lol nvm hes gone as fast as he appeared. And so squad 0 finally shows up, when they appeared i almost expected some BS like they were gonna be ganju and his friends or something[/hide]
Remind me again why didnt Kakashi use Kamui on the barrier so the Kyuubi and Hachibi can attack Mazou directly?
And its so nice of the Kyuubi to remember suddenly so late in the fight that he could just give chakra to Kakashi.