Man every shichibukai that is in some way against luffy directly or indirectly is always at risk in losing his title, call about a piece of bad lucky.
Shichibukai Discussion Thread
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On some Mihawk videos, I can't believe that some fans are saying that Law is the equivalent to Mihawk.
I mean its pretty blatant that Mihawk is a future version of Zoro and an equivalent of Rayleigh (similar flower pattern), Mihawk started at age 19 like Zoro, practiced witha Bokken as a kid as well, makes genuinely epic speeches (TS Zoro even inherited some of his personality trait).
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Mihawk is the strongest, probably one of the 5-6 strongest characters in the entire show. Otherwise the whole best swordsman title is a total farce and would be a massive dissapointment if he was not. Law seems to not have any issues shitting on VA's and can probably beat most Shichibukais but that doesn't mean all. It's still unknown if he is even as strong as Doflamingo.
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Mihawk is the strongest, probably one of the 5-6 strongest characters in the entire show. Otherwise the whole best swordsman title is a total farce and would be a massive dissapointment if he was not. Law seems to not have any issues shitting on VA's and can probably beat most Shichibukais but that doesn't mean all. It's still unknown if he is even as strong as Doflamingo.
I actually think he could 2nd strongest character in the series (tied with Shanks). Based on Shanks and WB discussion (its pretty much the set up for Marineford and for the climax of part 2), Zoro vs Mihawk and Luffy vs Blackbeard are likely to be the final duels of the final arc. If your name is mentioned or implied by 2 yonkus you know you are a badass. Moroever, Oda has been hyping up Zoro vs Mihawk for more than a decade and it would be a letdown if Shiriyu is the final oponent (I actually think Tashigi will be his unexpected opponent)
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I actually think he could 2nd strongest character in the series (tied with Shanks). Based on Shanks and WB discussion (its pretty much the set up for Marineford and for the climax of part 2), Zoro vs Mihawk and Luffy vs Blackbeard are likely to be the final duels of the final arc. If your name is mentioned or implied by 2 yonkus you know you are a badass. Moroever, Oda has been hyping up Zoro vs Mihawk for more than a decade and it would be a letdown if Shiriyu is the final oponent (I actually think Tashigi will be his unexpected opponent)
You must really love that girl.
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I don't think it'll be easy for Dofla to just say to the marines. "I'm revoking my shicibukai status, it was fun, so I'll be on my way now." He'd get killed. If he has to revoke his shichibukai status, then he'll probably do it while causing some chaos.
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I actually think he could 2nd strongest character in the series (tied with Shanks). Based on Shanks and WB discussion (its pretty much the set up for Marineford and for the climax of part 2), Zoro vs Mihawk and Luffy vs Blackbeard are likely to be the final duels of the final arc. If your name is mentioned or implied by 2 yonkus you know you are a badass. Moroever, Oda has been hyping up Zoro vs Mihawk for more than a decade and it would be a letdown if Shiriyu is the final oponent (I actually think Tashigi will be his unexpected opponent)
Please no… I would be really mad at Oda if he actually did this and the series itself would take some massive negative points of pulling something shocking out of nowhere that doesn't make sense. Like the guy above said you must quite like her a lot for this. :S
Zoro is implied to be the hardest working character in the series. He either sleeps.. or trains. Based on the illustration of Mihawk as a kid, other than having nakamas they are exactly the same as they trained since kids to become the greatest swordsman. He also spent 2 years as he says after the timeskip only training everyday and this happened under the greatest swordsman, there's no way Tashigi got this type of training during the 2 years and it basically showed during the Monet fight that their power level difference has only gotten bigger (it was already quite big). So from now to the time they would fight she would have to get so much stronger that she would have to make up the massive difference of power/skill on top of getting stronger than the man who probably trains more than anyone else in the series and constantly gets stronger... This would make no sense and would be a horrible piece of writing from Oda. The only way she could beat him is if she turns in One Piece's version of super saiyan at the end of the show.
I think Tashigi getting her ass kicked at every opportunity so far at PH shows that she really isn't made to be as much of a fighter but more about her character. Her only worthwhile moments this arc came after the PH events and it included the kid situation with Nami along with scolding the G5 crew. She's been the idealistic naive little girl who knows little about the world and everything is black and white at first, which is how she looked at things in the beginning.. However under Smoker's guidance and so many gray events happening, this latest even is looking to her turning point in her character. Even though she knows haki, I personally don't even see her above anyone other than maybe Ussop and Nami tbh. I still really hate the way she sees herself and talks to people much stronger than her but that's another point entirely. :ninja:
However regarding the Teach/Mihawk issue, you're likely right. I think Luffy will fight BB on Raftel or near it as the one who wins that battle will be PK and then I have a feeling Luffy will fight Akainu/last WG boss to finish the series.. but this is a left field speculation from me and most likely wrong (this could be put in the dumb predictions section).
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Z spoiler
! to those of us who've watched film Z - the pirate Z spared killed his crew save for ains and bins, then cut Z's arm off,
! the same guy became a schichibukai over the timeskip - judging by what he did to Z i've gotta say that this guy is going to be either friendly to the strawhats only to betray them - or he'll be an antagonist right away -
Z spoiler
! to those of us who've watched film Z - the pirate Z spared killed his crew save for ains and bins, then cut Z's arm off,
! the same guy became a schichibukai over the timeskip - judging by what he did to Z i've gotta say that this guy is going to be either friendly to the strawhats only to betray them - or he'll be an antagonist right awayExpect the unexpected, I hope he is a new character from the old generation… How many pirate crews do we know that are from Rogers era?
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Z spoiler
! to those of us who've watched film Z - the pirate Z spared killed his crew save for ains and bins, then cut Z's arm off,
! the same guy became a schichibukai over the timeskip - judging by what he did to Z i've gotta say that this guy is going to be either friendly to the strawhats only to betray them - or he'll be an antagonist right away! That pirate is obviously Buggy.
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VA < Shichibukai < Admiral < Yonkou
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VA < Shichibukai < Admiral < Yonkou
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So with this formula…
Garp < Buggy?
Ok, I guess I'm fine with this.
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VA < Shichibukai < Admiral < Yonkou
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This is kind of pointless because power levels aren't so black and white in One Piece.
From what we've seen of Vice Admirals and Shichibukai is that both ranks can range greatly in power, so it's not clear.
I'm going to include everyone who has been a Shichibukai. Blackbeard is obviously Yonko level, but he's a special case. Mihawk and Doflamingo are clearly on top and could be close to Admiral level, while there is middle ground with Jimbei, Kuma, Hancock, and Law while Crocodile and Moria seem to be on the bottom.
Vice Admirals like Vergo and Smoker have been shown to be able to fight Shichibukai, so I would put the stronger Vice-Admirals on Low-Tier Shichibukai level.
Akainu, Aokiji, and Kizaru seem to be equal, and I agree that the Yonko are stronger than them.
But discussing power levels in One Piece is pointless, since you never know how certain abilities or powers will interact with each other. If you want a good example, look at Usopp VS Perona.
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VA < Shichibukai < Admiral < Yonkou
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I agree but there's always exceptions to the rule. I find Mihawk will be at Yonko level. I think DD is probably the closest but not there to Admiral level but we may get a glimpse (but likely not) next chapter. We know nothing about either BM or Kaido to make a proper analysis on either of them and their power, I still think they will end up being the weakest when it's all done out of the 4 Yonkos but again, pure guessing.
Then there's also the Admiral situation, I just don't see who will be as a replacement and how they can be as strong as the previous 3. Before your current rating would be appropriate but now again there's more than 1 and how strong are they really, because if it's the VAs getting promoted, then Admiral level has now lowered behind Shichibukais, who are considerably stronger now then they were at the beginning of the series (one of the new guys being the one who cut Z's arm correct, and I've got 50 powers Law with his 1 kill).
The problem is lack of actual information. Shichibukais have 2 new characters, we have at least one new Admiral that can span into 3-4 and we know nothing about anyone other than Kizaru, not to mention 2/4 (50%) of the Yonkos are a complete mystery as how strong they are or what they're power is. No, I don't consider Kaido's "strongest creature" statement as him being the strongest thing in OP, but we will see. Too much to rely on guessing due to lack of evidence. :sad:
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VA < Shichibukai < Admiral < Yonkou
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Always been my though. And it's also one of the reason I don't want Buggy as a shichibukai or that I don't see Mihawk as strong as other believe him to be.
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Always been my though. And it's also one of the reason I don't want Buggy as a shichibukai or that I don't see Mihawk as strong as other believe him to be.
i dont think there should be a system like that because there already is so big a difference in sichi rank pirates like moriavsmihwk moria could probaly not even take down a pasifista… i think we need buggy and a big crew.
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Then there's also the Admiral situation, I just don't see who will be as a replacement and how they can be as strong as the previous 3. Before your current rating would be appropriate but now again there's more than 1 and how strong are they really, because if it's the VAs getting promoted, then Admiral level has now lowered behind Shichibukais, who are considerably stronger now then they were at the beginning of the series (one of the new guys being the one who cut Z's arm correct, and I've got 50 powers Law with his 1 kill).
What if the promoted VAs got a power boost through rare Devil Fruits? Perhaps Vegapunk figured out a way to make artificial Mythical Zoans (Which has precedent if we use Momonosuke as an example) or artificial Logias.
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@Jimbei:
What if the promoted VAs got a power boost through rare Devil Fruits? Perhaps Vegapunk figured out a way to make artificial Mythical Zoans (Which has precedent if we use Momonosuke as an example) or artificial Logias.
my prediction as well and in 2 years they should have mastred alright tho logias would be cool because its like what the admirals are known to be.
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Any thoughs on who the last shichibukai is? The one who cut Z's arm.
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Any thoughs on who the last shichibukai is? The one who cut Z's arm.
A new character… They have a DF that presumably allows them to cut things, and they're not very honorable...
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A new character… They have a DF that presumably allows them to cut things, and they're not very honorable...
I'm imagining a dirty fighter like Moria.Yeah, could be new. I don't think it's a cutting DF. There's already a lot those (Law, Dofla, Mr. 1,). I agree that he'll likely be a dirty fighter, considering he begged Z for mercy but then killed his crew and sliced off his arm. But how is Moria a dirty fighter anyway?
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Ever since the Ohara flashback, I always had the feeling the twenty kings (WG) was in alliance with the AK just so they can betray them so they can steal their power.
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Ever since the Ohara flashback, I always had the feeling the twenty kings (WG) was in alliance with the AK just so they can betray them so they can steal their power.
Wrong thread maybe?
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Yeah, could be new. I don't think it's a cutting DF. There's already a lot those (Law, Dofla, Mr. 1,). I agree that he'll likely be a dirty fighter, considering he begged Z for mercy but then killed his crew and sliced off his arm. But how is Moria a dirty fighter anyway?
Do we even know its a he? Though I'd imagine its someone with an unusual DF supporting an unusual sword-style (like Mr.1 or Buggy if he just so happened to be a swordsman) rather than a Mihawk-style badass with a sword.
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Do we even know its a he? Though I'd imagine its someone with an unusual DF supporting an unusual sword-style (like Mr.1 or Buggy if he just so happened to be a swordsman) rather than a Mihawk-style badass with a sword.
I assume it's a guy, but a girl would be more interesting. We haven't seen many strong evil women in the series. What kind DF could it be then? The multiple arms thing has already been done a lot, B5 took the weapon power and Mr. 1 has blade body. I can't come up with anything.
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I assume it's a guy, but a girl would be more interesting. We haven't seen many strong evil women in the series. What kind DF could it be then? The multiple arms thing has already been done a lot, B5 took the weapon power and Mr. 1 has blade body. I can't come up with anything.
Oh I don't mean that the sword is part of the DF, but rather than the DF makes his/her sword-fighting style unique. Like if Kidd was a swordsman and used his DF to control his sword (or multiple swords) while fighting, or if Buggy was a swordsman. I'm thinking a minor-class logia (like Smoker or Caribou) would be interesting, or something like the air cutting villain from the first filler arc. Or maybe someone who fights with daggers.
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Any thoughs on who the last shichibukai is? The one who cut Z's arm.
A Mandril Minkmen with a giant sword and a speed devil-fruit. His name will be Jack
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Crocodiles bounty is at least 500+ million berries..
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more like 80 mio
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Crocodiles bounty is at least 500+ million berries..
I hope this is a joke. He should only have 200 Million at the most.
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@Foxy:
I hope this is a joke. He should only have 200 Million at the most.
nah not joking and no point arguing about it, we just wait and see who's right.. I consider 80million as crocodiles first bounty! Croco been a shichibukia for long, strong and smart he is I wouldn't expect any less.. Yeah don't forget his the only Villain who has completely owned Luffy twice and almost killing him 3 times- no other Villain will ever pull that off..(except Z)
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nah not joking and no point arguing about it, we just wait and see who's right.. I consider 80million as crocodiles first bounty! Croco been a shichibukia for long, strong and smart he is I wouldn't expect any less.. Yeah don't forget his the only Villain who has completely owned Luffy twice and almost killing him 3 times- no other Villain will ever pull that off..(except Z)
2 time. 16 chars
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2 time. 16 chars
3, if Robin didn't give Luffy the antidote he would've died… Robin saved Luffy twice.
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3, if Robin didn't give Luffy the antidote he would've died… Robin saved Luffy twice.
He wasn't in a hurry the third time, if I recall.
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@Foxy:
I hope this is a joke. He should only have 200 Million at the most.
remember he was arrested and thrown into level 6 prison. 200 million seems kinda low but i guess its just a matter of opinion.
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remember he was arrested and thrown into level 6 prison. 200 million seems kinda low but i guess its just a matter of opinion.
Level 6 is for those that needs to be forget. He was a Shichibukai. Seems right to me. Nothing to do with bounty.
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Level 6 is for those that needs to be forget. He was a Shichibukai. Seems right to me. Nothing to do with bounty.
need to be forgotten because of their threat level and bounties are based on threat level to the government; to say nothing to do with bounty would be false.
buggy mentions that lvl 5 prisoners have atleast 100 million
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and then ivankov goes to mention how the really dangerous are kept on level six and then he names some of them (chapter 538)
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now, ive no idea what his bounty is going to be but the simple fact that he was a level 6 prisoner should show us a bit of his threat level to the government in which i think 200 is kinda low. my reasoning behind why its also low to me is b/c of how he goes on to name ace (who had 550 million bounty), jimbei( who's current bounty is over 400 million) and then goes on to name the members blackbeard recruited from level 6. In comparison to those named 200 just seems low.
sn: most of the stuff above is just extra to explain why i think 200 is low, but my main post was the first line
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I'm curious where people got that this Z-arm-chopping-off guy is a Shichibukai. Did the movie already come out and they mentioned that or where? I've honestly not heard anything about this until today.
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I'm curious where people got that this Z-arm-chopping-off guy is a Shichibukai. Did the movie already come out and they mentioned that or where? I've honestly not heard anything about this until today.
16 chars of spoilers.
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There are spoilers in the manga section? (aside from what goes in the spoilers subforum)
It was all over the chapter discussion thread, so I assumed it was common to at least this thread by now.
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I'm curious where people got that this Z-arm-chopping-off guy is a Shichibukai. Did the movie already come out and they mentioned that or where? I've honestly not heard anything about this until today.
The movie came out in December. Though I'm not sure if info is from that or the "Volume 1000" which tells Z's history.
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There are spoilers in the manga section? (aside from what goes in the spoilers subforum)
It was all over the chapter discussion thread, so I assumed it was common to at least this thread by now.
Well, I meant the movie hasn't been subbed yet though it was out in December in Japan.
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@Law:
I want someone new that is what made them interesting in the first place we already have two old characters filling the spots also i don't think bonney is one because she seems to have gotten away and she hates the govt so i am hoping for a level 6 person to be one we know they're strong but we have not seen their faces yet or Shiki.
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A zoan would be the best if its a old character then x drake's dinosaur zoan would do.
Sorry but what 2 old characters are you talking about? Did i miss something? I don't think oda named anyone as replacement shichibukai.
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Sorry but what 2 old characters are you talking about? Did i miss something? I don't think oda named anyone as replacement shichibukai.
Trafalgar Law and Captain Buggy.
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Trafalgar Law and Captain Buggy.
Buggy isn't a shichibukia..
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For those saying Crocodile bounty should be 200mil or less are probably joking.
-We know Crocodile was on Rogers time,
-We don't know how long his been a shichibukia,
-He's 81mil bounty is probably his first bounty, meaning the WG saw him more of a threat immediately than few we've seen
-He was looking for an Ancient weapon to take over the world,
-Was trying to takeover a country allied with the WG,
-He broke out from impel down,
-Participated in the marineford war,
-Stopped Ace execution,
-Saved Luffy twice, second time saved both Luffy and Jimbie and
-Helped Luffy and Jimbie escape by fighting/blocking Akainu's part.So after all this, if you still think Crocodiles bounty now shouldn't be above 400mil then SORRY.
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And how do you know that he isn't? HMMMMM?
I know he isn't one because he isn't, he wasn't one last we saw him… If speculation works like that, then I might aswell say Don krieg or Moria or Bonney is a shichibukia now...
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I know he isn't one because he isn't, he wasn't one last we saw him… If speculation works like that, then I might aswell say Don krieg or Moria or Bonney is a shichibukia now...
Hmmmm~ Unlike those candidates, we got at least a "hint" for Buggy.
Do not doubt the Messenger Bat hint.