Tempted. But avoiding like the plague. I know incredibly little at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way.
Still what, 2 months to go? June 22 right? Sigh.
Tempted. But avoiding like the plague. I know incredibly little at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way.
Still what, 2 months to go? June 22 right? Sigh.
@RobbyBevard:
Tempted. But avoiding like the plague. I know incredibly little at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way.
Still what, 2 months to go? June 22 right? Sigh.
Same here, and yep, June 22nd.
And of course I have a softball tournament that weekend, so I won't be going opening weekend. =_= At least I have a few movies coming out between now and then to keep me distracted. I don't how if I could last that long otherwise…
In other Pixar news, the studio announced some upcoming films for them at CinemaCon!
We already knew about:
Brave (this summer)
Finding Nemo 3D re-release in theatres (this fall)
Monsters University (Summer 2013)
Now we've got the actual name for their Summer 2014 movie, "The Good Dinosaur". This is being directed by Bob Peterson (who co-directed "Up") and is about a world where the dinosaurs never went extinct.
We've also got the theme for their 2015 film, directed by Toy Story 3 director Lee Unkrich and is going to be based around the Mexican holiday 'Dia de los Muertos'. Well. I'm sold.
They also got to see 30 minutes of this summer's Brave. Lucky bastiches….
We've also got the theme for their 2015 film, directed by Toy Story 3 director Lee Unkrich and is going to be based around the Mexican holiday 'Dia de los Muertos'. Well. I'm sold.
What about the one that takes place inside a girl's head? Was that one dropped?
What about the one that takes place inside a girls' head? Was that one dropped?
It's still on. Got pushed back to 2015, though.
i just discovered this series of videos on youtube
they're pretty great, post ur fav
Yup, that one is currently slated for 2014.
They should have just actually called that one Untitled Pixar Film About Dinosaurs; it's infinitely more interesting than a bland title like The Good Dinosaur. I will applaud them for pushing the envelope for Disney-released films by using two words and a definite article.
Anyway, is it just me or are some of the ads for Brave bordering on Disney's usual level of utter incompetence rather than Pixar's usual high standard? That kilt business is actually making me more interested in Wreck-It Ralph than Brave if only because Disney's marketing department hasn't had a chance to wreck its chances yet.
Not just you. The Bear and the Bow ads are terrible and are making me not want to see it… when I've been enthused about it for nearly two years now sight unseen based on the premise. There was a new? trailer in front of Avengers when I saw it, that made it look... ordinary. And boring. I'll still be there opening weekend, Pixar has earned that... but its track record, not commercials getting me there.
I assume they're only culling footage from the first 10 minutes, because everything shown so far all seems like setup, and all coming from the same scene or two, and they're hiding the good to surprise people, (I know the japanese trailer gave away a ton more and had a very different mood and atmosphere) but... if all that footage is from the first half hour or so? Yeah, trailers are not helping.
Same here. I have a hard time getting pumped up for the movie based on what I've seen so far. I know its pretty much only the first 20 minutes or half-hour, and the rest might be amazing, but it doesn't look all that impressive so far. Of course, I also thought How to Train Your Dragon also looked terrible from the trailers, so trailers aren't always a good indicator of how good a movie can be.
@RobbyBevard:
I assume they're only culling footage from the first 10 minutes, because everything shown so far all seems like setup, and all coming from the same scene or two, and they're hiding the good to surprise people, (I know the japanese trailer gave away a ton more and had a very different mood and atmosphere) but… if all that footage is from the first half hour or so? Yeah, trailers are not helping.
I can understand not wanting to spoil major plot elements, but summarizing so much of the early film can be just as bad since it means that you have to sit through stuff that you have already seen dozens of times, but condensed down to the highlights. If the audience gets bored early on because they're waiting for something new, it's going to be really hard to win them over later.
Good thing I haven't seen any recent trailers of it.
Pixar themselves have probably realized by now that even intentionally bad trailers will not deter people from watching their films. They've built up an unshakable fanbase over the period of almost 2 decades.
4 new Brave clips!
http://collider.com/brave-movie-clips/171288/
! Fun stuff, as always. And all taken from the start of the film, so fairly spoiler-free.
! And I'm calling it right now. Merida actually becomes friends with Lord MacGuffin's son, since he looks like an actual nice guy (who can snap a log in half, making him not a pansie). I dunno if Pixar will make them do a romance, but I'm fine with friends. Merida can learn not to take people at face value just because they're also being pawns of traditions.
TBH, most Pixar trailers haven't really made me want to see the movies. I've almost always thought to myself, "I can't figure out how the're making a story of this…but I just know they will and it'll be great".
Incidentally, going to be seeing the movie with a big group of people from an annual convention called Nerdtacular, should be fun
Ugh. Got a big ol' Brave spoiler from a toy commercial. After not watching previews and trying to avoid stuff, just… a stupid toy commercial nonchalantly throws out "Oh, and this happens!"
With it just a week away, too. Laaame.
At least its something that had already been suspected, but... having it confirmed is... annoying. Oh well, its pixar, they'll surely have some other surprises.
What was the part?
I'm not even going to say it behind a tag, because its a biggie, unless I'm really mistaken.
But if a toy commercial for Brave comes on, turn it away as fast as you can.
Yeah, that happened to me a couple of weeks ago during Young Justice. Damnit Mattel.
@RobbyBevard:
I'm not even going to say it behind a tag, because its a biggie, unless I'm really mistaken.
But if a toy commercial for Brave comes on, turn it away as fast as you can.
! Would this be the commercial for the Merida doll, with her three brothers as little 'accessories'?
! If so? Yeah, we're in the same boat.
! Would this be the commercial for the Merida doll, with her three brothers as little 'accessories'?
! If so? Yeah, we're in the same boat.
Yup. Again, speculation had already gone down that path, but…
Oh well, one more week to go.
Be glad you don't work at a bookstore. On May 25th, we got the Brave story books in, and some kids read the story out loud as I was working. So the entire story got revealed to me nearly a month before it came out.
…I just realized I don't have any softball tournament games going on this Friday (four on Saturday, but hey). I might actually be able to see Brave on opening night!
runs to contact movie buddy
Brave is sitting at a 68% on Rotten Tomatoes with a 6.8/10 review average.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brave_2012/ Some of the reviews kind of had me worried.
There's a probable chance that this might become Pixar's first bust (well there's Cars but that's Cars). Half-way through they replaced the writer of Beauty and the Beast with the writer of…John Carter. This pisses me off to no end given how this is the first solo female character Pixar has ever done. The visuals will still be stunning of course but Pixar is about visuals and those heart-warming stories. Yes they can be mired by cheap gags and other dumb crap but at least the themes are always original and well-executed. But from what I've been hearing this movie has a very derivative plot that's basically ripping off
! Brother Bear :/
Pixar is allowed a flop here and there after being 11 for 13 for so long but…this of all movies?
@Thousand:
There's a probable chance that this might become Pixar's first bust (well there's Cars but that's Cars). Half-way through they replaced the writer of Beauty and the Beast with the writer of…John Carter. This pisses me off to no end given how this is the first solo female character Pixar has ever done. The visuals will still be stunning of course but Pixar is about visuals and those heart-warming stories. Yes they can be mired by cheap gags and other dumb crap but at least the themes are always original and well-executed. But from what I've been hearing this movie has a very derivative plot that's basically ripping off
! Brother Bear :/
Pixar is allowed a flop here and there after being 11 for 13 for so long but…this of all movies?
! The "twist" was pretty obvious from the second trailer on, but from the reviews, that plot point is the only thing it has in common with brother bear. It's shortcomings seem to be from following other Disney cliches and feeling less like Pixar or maybe just other sloppy issues in general.
The reviews are making me a lot more skeptical, so I suggest that people just avoid this thread and reviews in general until they see the movie. No need to warp your preconceptions like I like to do.
The reviews, even the one sentence ones, can't seem to help but throw out major spoilers. So, doing my best to avoid anything else till I see it this weekend, since… I'm seeing it regardless.
Besides, Bug's Life and Cars 1 were both fine, but most people don't care for them. (Bug's Life is usually just sort of... not mentioned.) And people end up completely split on Wall-E and Up as well, and some hate Ratatouillle, which I absolutely love. Cars I had to see several times before I really came to like it.
I'm sure it'll be fine. Much like Cars 2, reviewers are WANTING Pixar to fail at this point, because they don't like there being a perfect track record, so they're extra harsh on Pixar films... which are still better than 98% of the other stuff to come out in a given year.
@RobbyBevard:
Besides, Bug's Life and Cars 1 were both fine, but most people don't care for them. (Bug's Life is usually just sort of… not mentioned.)
I must be one of the few people with whom Bug's Life has a very special place in my heart. That was one of the movies I watched over and over and over again as a kid until I had it memorized. Either we didn't own Toy Story or I just preferred Bug's Life over it, but that was the Pixar movie of my childhood.
But anyway, you're probably right that a lot of people just want this movie this fail. I mean, Cars 2 still has a 38% rating on RT and I don't think it deserves that at all. Still, can't help but be a little skeptical.
I hope it turns out to be as good as it should be but a lot of the critics are in a consensus that the story is lack-lustre and derivative which really, really sucks because Pixar prides itself in its creative and original story-telling. I was really excited for this movie before…now I'm nervous :/
I must be one of the few people with whom Bug's Life has a very special place in my heart. That was one of the movies I watched over and over and over again as a kid until I had it memorized. Either we didn't own Toy Story or I just preferred Bug's Life over it, but that was the Pixar movie of my childhood.
But anyway, you're probably right that a lot of people just want this movie this fail. I mean, Cars 2 still has a 38% rating on RT and I don't think it deserves that at all. Still, can't help but be a little skeptical.
I absolutely love Bug's Life. It's still one of my all time favorites. Hell, in a list of my favorite PIxar films, it's be 3rd behind The Incredibles and Monster's Inc.
I never really got the dislike for it.
Not so much dislike for Bug's Life. Just ambivilence. People forget about it.
Its sort of just came between the first two Toy Stories, and before they'd really started building up momentum as "that studio that always does good work." Bug's Life, exact same film (though with more recent CG) released today for the first time would probably be better accepted… though with some critics out just to tear apart the Pixar record.
Poor Pixar. It's hard when you get such a stellar record like that, everyone will be extra harsh on you.
All the bad reviews I've seen so far are spitting on it because it's not the usual, "groundbreaking Pixar" that they expect. Geez, people, it's all about execution.
Im really sad about this. If The first Pixar movie with a female protagonist (And Director) is a dud, it will probably be the last.
Yeah. People tend to be extra critical on Pixar whenever a film isn't up to standard even if its still good. I have to see the movie first though, to see how it actually holds up. I usually take anything above 50% on RT to usually be enjoyable if its your type of movie, and occasionally movies under that too.
The thing is, while its fun to have a movie hit above 95% on Rotten Tomatoes for vindication bragging, its actually a really, really terrible site for getting an "average score" from, since they only have the "either/or" option. ALSO, the more reviews a movie gets, the worse the percentiles, since 1 negative review can offset 98 positive ones. Conversely, if a movie is old and only 12 people review it and like it, it still gets 100% and ranks above Toy Story 3 or The Muppets, which have hundreds of positives.
There are often reviews on there that are 3 out of 4 stars that come across negative, or vice versa. There's not a whole lot of inbetween for "It was okay but I didn't love it."
Metacritic tends to balance out better, since they at least have a "mixed" option.
Well that's why, below the fresh percentage, there's the average review score out of 10.
Like Toy Story 3 is 99%, but it's only an 8.8/10 review average.
I'm sensing Ratatouille quality, which isn't bad. I'll have to go and see it.
EDIT: WALL-E is very under-appreciated in this thread.
It's my favorite one outside of the Toy Story series, because it actually came off as a serious movie.
@RobbyBevard:
Not so much dislike for Bug's Life. Just ambivilence. People forget about it.
This is very true. I liked the movie, but somehow in conversations about Pixar films it gets left out. It's almost like people forget they made it. Even I rarely bring it up.
Just dropping by while on break to drop off this:
Godammit. Ninja'd. :U
I loved the trailer, haha.
I just looked at the cast for Wreck-It-Ralph…
Holy crap, that's the best cast ever!
@Nex:
Just dropping by while on break to drop off this:
So, it's a prequel?
Either way I am excited.
Brave's managed to climb back up to a 76% Fresh rating and a 7/10 overall rating. So it's not bad.
General consensus just seems to be that it doesn't live up to other Pixar films. Which means, if people were actually judging this based on animated films in general, it probably be 90% fresh and an 8.3/10 rating.
Yes that is based on a formula I just made up off the top of my head.
No matter what I'll be seeing this this weekend.
Critics are being unfair to Pixar at this point. They only expect Uber-Stellar Quality and are mad when it's only an Awesome Movie.
EDIT: WALL-E is very under-appreciated in this thread.
It's my favorite one outside of the Toy Story series, because it actually came off as a serious movie.
Says who? I adore Wall-E! It's definitely one of Pixar's more somber movies, but it's also one of their most heartwarming ones.
We mostly don't talk about Wall-E because nothing needs to be said.
@Sniper:
I just looked at the cast for Wreck-It-Ralph…
Holy crap, that's the best cast ever!
cough Wreck-It Ralph is being made by Disney, not Pixar.
Critics are being unfair to Pixar at this point. They only expect Uber-Stellar Quality and are mad when it's only an Awesome Movie.
Says who? I adore Wall-E! It's definitely one of Pixar's more somber movies, but it's also one of their most heartwarming ones.
We mostly don't talk about Wall-E because nothing needs to be said.
cough Wreck-It Ralph is being made by Disney, not Pixar.
Hahahahaha…ahaha....
Woops...
@Sniper:
Hahahahaha…ahaha....
Woops...
Easy mistake to make since its already been remarked how similar in style it looks to Pixar movies.
As for Brave, it at least looks like its 'Cars' or 'Bug's Life' quality, so it should still definitely be good since I enjoyed those.
However unfairly, Pixar earned the extra scrutiny by releasing Ratatouille, Wall-E, Up and Toy Story 3 in a row. Almost every negative review on RT was just disappointed by what it wasn't, rather than criticizing what it actually was.
The fact that it's still going to rake in a boat-load of cash makes it hard to get too upset about it. Still, its kind of messed up that it may end up with a lower score than freaking Madagascar 3.
"If the Walt Disney Studios logo were the only one on "Brave," this film's impeccable visuals and valiant heroine would be enough to call it a success."
That right there is why this film is at a 71%
Makes me wonder how How To Train Your Dragon would have been reviewed had it been exactly the same, but had Pixar's name at the start. Instead of being a 98% it probably be down around where Brave is at.
Sadly, this isn't something new or specifiv to Pixar.
You're not going to judge a Scorsese film with the pack, you're going to judge it against his other films, same with Tarantino and any other highly successful director.
Just like how Avengers and The Dark Knight are judges amongst comic book films and not films in general.
It's a pity, but it makes sense why.