I always thought that Naruto's dream was to open a ramen shop with Sasuke; far away from all the hateful and grudging people.
Naruto and Bleach II: I don't have the heart to care anymore.
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When were you given the impression that this wasn't the real Naruto?
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Wow, after seeing this, I actually wish the younger Naruto was still in the manga, and I didn't even like any of the team 7 members (except Kakashi) before. But compared to the current Naruto, the younger one seemed like a completely different character.
Just shows the extent to which this series has fallen.
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Lol, it all makes sense now.
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It's weird, but when it's laid out like that younger Naruto despite being a loud mouth brat seemed much cooler than this current Naruto.
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Kubo decided tell this stuff in the new databook The Rebooted Souls:
Secret 1 : secret of Ichigo's birth that Aizen knows, and isshin…
Secret 2: "true blood” is..(that grant fisher was talking about)
Secret 3: The truth of Masaki's death
Secret 4: Isshin and Ryuuken's relationship
Secret 5: Ichigo and Kaien's resemblance
Secret 6: Ukitake's fear towards Kyoraku's bankai ability
Secret 7: Yoruichi, Urahara and Tessai's relationship
Secret 8: the identity of spirit king, king's key and Zero squad division
Secret 9: 110 years ago, the 10th division captain's vacancy
Secret 10: Shadows(those bodies) that were left in Szayel Apporo's laboratoryMain story be damned.
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Kubo decided tell this stuff in the new databook The Rebooted Souls:
Secret 1 : secret of Ichigo's birth that Aizen knows, and isshin…
Secret 2: "true blood” is..(that grant fisher was talking about)
Secret 3: The truth of Masaki's death
Secret 4: Isshin and Ryuuken's relationship
Secret 5: Ichigo and Kaien's resemblance
Secret 6: Ukitake's fear towards Kyoraku's bankai ability
Secret 7: Yoruichi, Urahara and Tessai's relationship
Secret 8: the identity of spirit king, king's key and Zero squad division
Secret 9: 110 years ago, the 10th division captain's vacancy
Secret 10: Shadows(those bodies) that were left in Szayel Apporo's laboratoryMain story be damned.
I understand putting like extra info for people who buy the data books but this info should be told in the story and NOT A FUCKING DATABOOK!!!!
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Secret 1 : secret of Ichigo's birth that Aizen knows, and isshin…
NO.KUBO YOU DUMB FUCK. This is only the origin of your fucking character, and now you're telling us that after bringing it up in the story 2 years ago that you'll never actualy show any character's reaction to this ?
Just so we can watch the Hallibel chearing squire get themselves killed for a third consequtive time ? This is the origin of your fucking main character, as well as the mysterious past of his father who never bothered to tell his son "Hey, I'm a soul reaper and the afterlife is real, heads up" ?
What kind of…..I mean you already managed to basicly write Hell out of your fucking afterlife, make your "heaven" as unsympathetic, useless, pathetic, blood lusty, death and disease filled slum of a hell hole managed by people who are so terrible at their job they actualy save less then zero souls somehow, who'se entiere existence is one long stretch of sitting on their asses drinking tea, never using their immense super powers for any kind of measurable good for their citzens, go on to actively commit extrajudcial genocide on them , saying that this would be fully acceptable were the proper forms filled out and of course who take every single solitary person who has ever served in their squad and who then stops being of use and put them in a secret prison for the remainder of their lives without the possibility of being released because of the possibility that one of them could have possibly become some sort of threat at some point.
And now you're writing out the main character's hinted at backstory and that of his own father that you pretended to want to explain to us 2 years ago, then promised you would and didn't…...completely outside of the manga ?
NO. NO YOU CANNOT
WHY DID YRT not wait for his "Downfall of Bleach" conclusion until this little factoid hit ?Then again knowing the man, the stuff he promises in interviews is usualy the things least likely to actualy happen, so…....
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I understand putting like extra info for people who buy the data books but this info should be told in the story and NOT A FUCKING DATABOOK!!!!
Actually, these secrets are supposed to be explained over the course of the final arc. These were teasers at the end of The Rebooted Souls databook and are also the same teasers covered in the 3 week break between 479 and 480.
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Actually, these secrets are supposed to be explained over the course of the final arc. These were teasers at the end of The Rebooted Souls databook and are also the same teasers covered in the 3 week break between 479 and 480.
So this is a promise that he made at the end of a databook then ?
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Yes. More or less. There's also a translation of the cover flap from v. 55 (I think) "We finally arrived at the final arc. The entire story of Bleach was for the sake of this arc. I'm happy that I was able to do everything as I wanted".
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Kubo decided tell this stuff in the new databook The Rebooted Souls:
Secret 1 : secret of Ichigo's birth that Aizen knows, and isshin…
Secret 2: "true blood” is..(that grant fisher was talking about)
Secret 3: The truth of Masaki's death
Secret 4: Isshin and Ryuuken's relationship
Secret 5: Ichigo and Kaien's resemblance
Secret 6: Ukitake's fear towards Kyoraku's bankai ability
Secret 7: Yoruichi, Urahara and Tessai's relationship
Secret 8: the identity of spirit king, king's key and Zero squad division
Secret 9: 110 years ago, the 10th division captain's vacancy
Secret 10: Shadows(those bodies) that were left in Szayel Apporo's laboratoryMain story be damned.
…So, basically, he's covering every single plot point that the series has left in a databook? What the goddamn hell?
Edit: Okay, even if he isn't, that's still a lot of information to cram into a single arc that seems to only be vaguely related to one or two of those points (Isshin and Ryuuken's relationship, and the bodies in Szayel's lab)
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…So, basically, he's covering every single plot point that the series has left in a databook? What the goddamn hell?
Edit: Okay, even if he isn't, that's still a lot of information to cram into a single arc that seems to only be vaguely related to one or two of those points (Isshin and Ryuuken's relationship, and the bodies in Szayel's lab)
6 and 8 are also things that the Vandenreich will bring about, me thinks. But yes, as far as being Quincy related, not everything on the list is a direct result. We'll see how Kubo balances out everything.
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If he is going show all of this in arc it will be crammed like fullbring flashback.But we will see how Kubo balances things out dont have much hope since some of this stuff should have been exposed before.
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I like how Yachiru's namesake is nowhere to be found.
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He also said we'd get to see Unohana's true appearance (apparently she's like Tsunade and uses spirit energy to make her appear youthful), but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Surprised Kubo even remembers all of these stuff left behind hundreds of chapters ago. I'm sure some of these had to be reminded by an editor or something. . .
Still, this would be like Oda bringing stuff up after hundreds of chapters. . .if not for the fact that in OP it's kind of organic, it's the time for it to resurface, and so it happens. It's still incredibly mindboggingly stupid that in 2 years of Ichigo doing NOTHING, just sitting and watching TV, he didn't even ask his father once about what he had to told him. Isshin also forgetting to explain his own fucking origin to his own fucking son is plenty stupid too.
The rest, I guess it's okay. Captains not using bankai during the Fake Karakura arc because "it wasn't their appeal" is, also, pretty goddamn stupid as all hell, but it's true Kyoraku's was specifically deemed to be too dangerous to be used. So we'll see.
Gotta give him credit, though: if he manages to cramp all this stuff in a single arc, he'll make more plot advancement in a single arc than the rest of the 500+ chapters combined.
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Here it is cover for the databook:
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Some pages of the novel and databook are acessible for reading(not in english):
[+BLEACH+Spirits+Are+Forever+With+You+I【冒頭配信】-shueisha/free_magazine-153296/?category_id=2"]Novel](http://bookstore.yahoo.co.jp/[小説) Databook -
Wait, I'm confused now. Far as I know, Kubo teased that this final arc would answer nearly all of the mysteries listed…but they're going to be answered in the Databook itself too, before published in the actual manga? Or is the databook just going to give small hints?
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It would appear the databook is hinting at what is possibly to come.
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I guess I am morbidly curious as to how he's going to fit all of that stuff in, but I can't imagine how he'll hit all of them without the plot bucking like an enraged rhino.
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@The:
Wait, I'm confused now. Far as I know, Kubo teased that this final arc would answer nearly all of the mysteries listed…but they're going to be answered in the Databook itself too, before published in the actual manga? Or is the databook just going to give small hints?
The databook is reminding us of the questions. Basically it's posing questions and the story will answer them.
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It's for the best if Bleach doesn't address all of these questions in it's final arc.
Crossword is right in the sense that cramming everything the series has not answered previously in the last act is just limp dick writing. Not to mention it'll take the plot seriously off-tangent only for the sole purpose of answering them. And by that point you're not making a good story you're just tying loose ends for it's own sake.
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I can see how the current plot could answer or lead into 1, 4, and 6-9, but it feels like the ship has already sailed, or should have already sailed, for the others. I guess it just depends on how long this arc will be, and given how Kubo considers everything from the Vizards 'til Deicide one giant, ongoing thing…
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Oh my god, Sasuke is all teen pop. I have to see this movie.
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Thirty bucks says Kubo reveals all those 'secrets' within the last four pages of the manga.
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No, all the answers to Bleach will be crammed into the ending editor note.
Also. The Rebooted Souls isn't a databook in the usual sense. It's just a supplmentary little book that comes as a free bonus with volume 55 and basically is a summary of the manga story that came before it.
Sort of a last futile effort to bring in new readers.
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My guess is, Isshin will show up in front of Ichigo and his friends as they try to take on Ishida. It'll be revealed in a flashback that Ichigo did in fact actually hear the truth from his father during the gap, but acted stupidly anyways with the fullbringers. Said flashback will contain another flashback where we see how Isshin and Ryuuken became best buddies. Yacchiru's name sake is revealed as being actually a Quincy. Masaki was actually killed by her and the missing 10th and he got reincarnated as Ichigo.
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This is all easy to cram in. Ichigo is the fated one the prophecy spoke of centurties ago and the killing of the guy that looks like him was orchestrated, his real mother is a hollow that provided the namesake for… etc.
I can see most of those loose threads being dealt with in a couple of sentences.
Not well. But dealt with.
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@RobbyBevard:
This is all easy to cram in. Ichigo is the fated one the prophecy spoke of centurties ago and the killing of the guy that looks like him was orchestrated, his real mother is a hollow that provided the namesake for… etc.
I can see most of those loose threads being dealt with in a couple of sentences.
Not well. But dealt with.
So weird not seeing your dog avatars…
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spoilers are up guys!!
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Oh shit more Sasuke and his bullshit.
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It seems Itachi finished Edo tensei from pictures but then whats the point to showing Kimimaro.
The all thing feels very anticlimactic.Its out at:
[http://mangateers.com/manga/naruto/589/1/D](http://mangateers.com/manga/naruto/589/1/)idnt like this chapter most of zombies were pointless and most of fights were offscreen.
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So lame, I don't have words to describe the dissapointment,in the chapter as well as the entire war arc.
Hopefully Madara will be gone as well, and won't pull a jutsu out of his *ss that lets him stay even after edo tensei is cancelled. Very tired of his haxness and gay love for Hashirama.
Sasuke is still an ididot, and looks like the time for 'the heart' redemption chapter is getting closer and closer.
Hopefully, Bleach will be better….who am I kidding. :blink:
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Well okay, that was a anti-climax if I ever saw one. Yep, pretty awful chapter. I just… we get 4 weeks of Kabuto flashback, a lame sharingan power-up and don't even get to see the Kages do much except get beaten up, though it would be even worse when Madara pulled something out of his ass to survive. This is supposed to be the final arc. Why can't we have climatic battles for it? Well, we at least still have Tobi vs. Naruto, right? Right…? I'm mostly okay with Naruto chapters, but this is bad.
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Is out at mangastream:
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/57079454/1 Some translations made it worse. -
Bleach is out.
http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86807_bleeding-guitar-blues
Enjoy(the dissapointment).
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@Ace:
Bleach is out.
http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86807_bleeding-guitar-blues
Enjoy(the dissapointment).
Felt so short and confusing.
http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/86807_bleeding-guitar-blues/page_16 Made laugh the top panel.
Edit:Is it me or the guy above have mustache?
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Well, Bleach continues the trend of kind of wierd chapter titles and sets up more fights. Obligatory attack from behind, of course. Felt rushed, nothing terrible, just okay.
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This is fucking rediculous the way Kishi made Madara and Hashirama so overpowered. What the fuck? There's a HUGE gap between the hype he has given to Hashirama and how he intended him to be back in part 1.
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Bleach wasn't THAT bad. Those character names are pretty weird.
Why do i get the feelin the Quincy are gonna get owned….
I hope they win some fights - especially Renji, i want him to die painfully.That guitar guy seems rather interesting....
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Bleach wasn't THAT bad. Those character names are pretty weird.
Why do i get the feelin the Quincy are gonna get owned….
I hope they win some fights - especially Renji, i want him to die painfully.That guitar guy seems rather interesting….
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What do these letters stand for?
And, coming from a German guy, those names don't even make sense in German. At all.
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Naruto was just a shame this week. It looks like Kishi had all those awesome ideas in mind but never got around to execute them/got annoyed of it. Really sad.
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Welp, those zombies had the payoff of absolutely nothing
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Bleach: Look at all the poorly named Espada rejects terrorizing the city. Seriously, does anyone have combat skill in this action manga? No? Oh, right. It's Bleach and only four people know what they're doing sort of maybe. Ayon looks pretty cool, just because he…she...they look creepy as hell. And someone fire Renji. That dude never does anything ever. Just goes "HUH WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT" and then extends his sword. What a joke.
Naruto: Cool. Useless zombies. If Itachi pokes Sasuke's forehead, I swear I will blow up Venus.
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Renji is the Yamcha of Soul Society.
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cant wait for naruto to end.
I stopped reading bleach 9 and a half years ago
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@Cyan:
Renji is the Yamcha of Soul Society.
Or the Terry Boot
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This is Glossy Black Naruto if I ever saw it. They even acknowledge it themselves; "Hey Naruto, Itachi saved us all! We're totally inqonsequential!" and Madara has a Bijuu level megazord. Figures. He'll propably have an Edo-Tensei failsafe, just to drag out the battle some more.
Bleach…Other than me having no fucking clue what was being talked about in the first few pages, okay chapter I guess. Feels very much like a filler arc or movie, which is above the mangas usual standard.
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First time I've posted in here, mostly because I took long break from Naruto for being so boring lately, but I caught up on the weekend and the only thing I have to say is…Thank god that dragged out Kabuto back story/ Itachi- Sasuke reunion is finally over and it can get back to the war.
Kishi sure seems to want to make this last as long as possible though, the chapters lately have been extreamly short, which is annoying.
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I'm so annoyed that a DEAD GUY just saved them all. The living, especially the Kages, are such useless people. And what about Kabuto now. Left to fight Sasuke?
I haven't been following so well. If Madara goes away now, is there anything unresolved with him? Some secret he alluded to or whatever.