Eventhough we've seen most of the allies on the coverstories I feel like a few chapters will be devoted to the supernova/marines/rest of the world while the Strawhats float up to the surface. It is after the major event of the timeskip after all, though you never know.
Chapter 653: The hero's hat
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My favorite part of the chapter by far was Luffy using his rubber powers in humorous ways. Rubber powers have been my favorite since I was a little kid, so I looooove seeing all the funny antics he can do with his body. I hope we can see more of that with every DF user we see.
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This is like a Bleack chapter. NOTHING HAPPENED!
You mean like forgeting like Kubo ?
Leaving without saying good-bye to Kraken neither take him with them. I don't mind if the tamed pet don't go with them in the NW (even if I wish Kraken goes too!) but forgeting him feels… Kubo-ish.Well I love moaning, there is still a great chance that Kraken will appears in next chapter to help the SHs with HQ marines... or not :x.
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You mean like forgeting like Kubo ?
Leaving without saying good-bye to Kraken neither take him with them. I don't mind if the tamed pet don't go with them in the NW (even if I wish Kraken goes too!) but forgeting him feels… Kubo-ish.Well I love moaning, there is still a great chance that Kraken will appears in next chapter to help the SHs with HQ marines... or not :x.
Surume took Wadatsumi and went away in a previous chapter.
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Kokoro is looking as fine as ever.
Off to read the next pages.
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Nice to see Oda's SBS creation of Incredibly-Floaty-Wood finally pays off 478 chapters later!!
There's a pun with its name too. furyoku is buoyancy, and flipping "kuigosu" around becomes "sugoiku", thus is "amazing buoyancy".
Hm, is there a solid script to glance at for confirmation of Brook's "Requiem" on page 9 (pg 10 for MS)? I'd like to know its correct name.
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Hm, is there a solid script to glance at for confirmation of Brook's "Requiem" on page 9 (pg 10 for MS)? I'd like to know its correct name.
I think one surfaced in the spoiler thread.
Ah, here it is.
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Ah, great chapter. I'm pretty sure you can end this arc right now.
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I think one surfaced in the spoiler thread.
Ah, here it is.
Thanks, but I notice there seem to be a few lines of script missing. I can't find that specific line of Brook's.
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I'm just glad we can FINALLY move on.
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Wow feels weird seeing that flashback of Luffy talking to Coby about new world, only because Luffy is shown shorter than Coby… what the..
He is actually bigger than coby… It's called perspective (not that I'm arguing that it's super accurate but I think thos one is fairly easy to get)... he is standing nearer to us from our point of perspective of the picture so he appears bigger than luffy who is standing far away.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v45/c432/12.html
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Thanks, but I notice there seem to be a few lines of script missing. I can't find that specific line of Brook's.
I don't see any other. I guess we'll have to wait until a more full one or the raw to appear.
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Oda just set us up for the 2nd cruise arround the world, when the Crew will return to Fishman Island. This is far from finished/settled… Fishman Island SECOND Visit! HERE I COME!
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@ ponx: Really? nice to know. Loool at all their faces especially Luffy's in the second panel.
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Ah, there u go, found one
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LOOOL thank you!
@chocolatequeen: Is that Madoka in your pp?
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Just going to post on a few things I thought differently than you.
1. Chopper's proclomation. I really like what you said about him being able to fix Zoro up. Not only would this show Chopper becoming an amazing doctor it would also get rid of the crews handicap they seemed to have every other arc from Zoro not being full str. BUT I also took his comment "fight all you want" as him embracing his monster, and that he is game for fighting too.
2. pretty sure its army, no way they are making themselves a strong fleet for luffy, its to protect themselves.
3. Luffy and crew have fought before about where to go, and other things. Luffy always wins with his captain. They fought back before skypiea. Now Nami may trick him, but is his decision.
4. i was fine with Sanji's comment since his dream was all blue (a fishing spot) and before time skip he was trying to get food recipes to make better food, thus a comment about keeping them full versus a combat comment is more fitting. A combat comment would feel out of place, like "huh is he no longer chef"
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pretty sure that was not Luffy's hands around her at all, it was his NECK.
I'm pretty sure when chopper said fight all you want he meant that he can heal them with no problems and I hate how robin only laughs and Oda changed her clothes thinking that no one would notice >.>
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I really like this chapter because of the farewell from FI and the pinky promise between the Straw Hats and Shirahoshi was very nice.:)
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…just now realized the pinky promise was a callback to the princes/princess and Otohime.
Reader Fail.
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Im surpised by Nami's reaaction to the Log. I thought when she was on the sky island during the skip she said she wanted to learn all about new world weather and navigation. Now it seems like she didnt even learn about the basics of new world logs.
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I learned a lot from this chapter plus it was very entertaining I don't understand why ppl bash this chapter :P
_I won't say all, but man_y bash it because there was no 'action' no fightign, no big show of abilites. Those type of people want fight,fight, fight! and want to ignore the story buildup. They forget that One Piece is far more than action. The story, the in-depth of the world, its history and its people is what has kept readers for more than 10 years. If all they want is action, they should go read some other manga (wont say titles) that is 'action-packed' but is shallow.
Rising to the surface shouldn't take as long as it did when they were descending towards FI. I'm highly anticipating the meeting with Smoker to be more comedic in the beginning than serious. I predict the SH's will escape the attention of the fleet, but Luffy will undo all of that with excitement and whatnot, and from there the chase begins.
So I take it that Oda is still going to have certain members of the crew change their attire from time to time like in the past. He's doing it already with Robin, and a bit with Nami with her hair (not really a change, but something different).
I'm pretty sure when chopper said fight all you want he meant that he can heal them with no problems and I hate how robin only laughs and Oda changed her clothes thinking that no one would notice >.>
Hmm People mention Robin changing and that Nami has pigtails but only one other person has mentioned that NAmi changed her bikini top.
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Pretty good chapter, a traditional transition one with some nice emotion.
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Aaaw, poor Jinbe getting left behind ..
OH WELL! Set sail; don't look back. Can't be helped. He shall be missed terribly. Cheerio.
Settle into the Vivi club, fishtato. See you at the end of the series. -
@tattermoog:
…just now realized the pinky promise was a callback to the princes/princess and Otohime.
Reader Fail.
Did'nt notice that at all…
whoops.@kazztar:
_I won't say all, but man_y bash it because there was no 'action' no fightign
meh, if the arc is going to be 50 chapters in length the villains and battles should probably be more threatening than it was.
A short one like Whiskey Peak is a different story.
In general the FI arc was alright.
Favourite chapters was 630-632. I really liked the build up chapters to the fighting a lot.
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@Miss:
Aaaw, poor Jinbe getting left behind ..
OH WELL! Set sail; don't look back. Can't be helped. He shall be missed terribly. Cheerio.
Settle into the Vivi club, fishtato. See you at the end of the series.He will be joining after a certain time period. This arc was not his arc, it was the entire fishman races' arc. He will be getting a personal flashback. Though I would like to see Vivi join again eventually too, but that involves crashing a reverie at a certain holy land.
Like already said, yea I do feel like the Island will be revisited. There were just too many things left open ended; the dojo,Den, Noah, Shirahoshi as Poseidon (I feel this will be the key that brings them to another world government issue), Caribou (will probably lead to Shirahoshi's endangerment with whomever he meets). All in all, I felt like the island wasn't described well. I really wanted to see this tree that keeps them alive, Eve. Way to many things to leave untouched, hopefully we will see a part 2 to this arc…..somehow.
On that note, I feel like another sky island will come into play eventually.
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Woah… Luffy can just wrap around things without momentum now?
Before he use to have to force his body to push itself around things, but seeing the 2 times in this weeks chapter he simply wrapped around Nami and Shirahoshi... or he could still have used force to do it... but i doubt it considering he would probably have knocked Nami over in that case.
Weird... anyone else notice this?
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Just going to post on a few things I thought differently than you.
1. Chopper's proclomation. I really like what you said about him being able to fix Zoro up. Not only would this show Chopper becoming an amazing doctor it would also get rid of the crews handicap they seemed to have every other arc from Zoro not being full str. BUT I also took his comment "fight all you want" as him embracing his monster, and that he is game for fighting too.
Don't forget Hinscher in Skypeia when Ussop told Chopper to fight as much as he wanted and not just be follower. NOW Chopper grown so much he is telling others to fight as much as they want!
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A wonderful, sweet ending! Love that moment with Shirahoshi.
lol @ "The ending was too rushed because it didn't have what I personally wanted!"
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@Gia:
He will be joining after a certain time period. This arc was not his arc, it was the entire fishman races' arc. He will be getting a personal flashback. Though I would like to see Vivi join again eventually too, but that involves crashing a reverie at a certain holy land.
Yeees, yes yes - I've heard all the insane, nonsensical theories before which I have no interest in deflating again. As far as I'm concerned, Vivi and now Jinbe are the "honorary Strawhat" endgame allies. Nothing more.
Also, about half the stuff you listed have no point in being expanded upon. The Eve tree? Really? You just expect them to sail all the way back to Fishman Island after being halfway to Raftel just to chill with Den and climb up the Eve tree to speak to the mystic fairies that live up there? These are just elements Oda adds to simply expand on the locations and add more depth to them; he's been doing this since the start with almost all the places they visit. If the tree hadn't been introduced, I'm sure you'd see legions of whiners going on about "hoe do dey breathe and have light underwater?"
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I'm only a little dissappointed we didn't get to see more of Fishman Island (although it was a cool adventure) and that Jinbe didn't join. Other then that, great arc, in my opinion. This series keeps getting thicker and thicker.
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@Razzle:
Woah… Luffy can just wrap around things without momentum now?
Before he use to have to force his body to push itself around things, but seeing the 2 times in this weeks chapter he simply wrapped around Nami and Shirahoshi... or he could still have used force to do it... but i doubt it considering he would probably have knocked Nami over in that case.
Weird... anyone else notice this?
yes me too I was like "hey that's new, he is more flexible than before…"
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@Miss:
Yeees, yes yes - I've heard all the insane, nonsensical theories before which I have no interest in deflating again. As far as I'm concerned, Vivi and now Jinbe are the "honorary Strawhat" endgame allies. Nothing more.
Jinbe may or may not join the crew, but I think it's significant that the mechanism by which he could return to the storyline in the future is much more pronounced than it was with Vivi (which was very much a "someday, somewhere" kind of thing). At the very least, we're not as clearly done with his story arc as were with Vivi's.
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Reading this chapter increased my suspicions on Oda having had a longer plot for the Fishmen Island scrapped because he realised he had a lot of plotlines to cover in the New World which means a decade worth of work. This whole arc was rushed, and I kind've understand why. We expected Fishmen Island to be some epic arc after it was mentioned a few times already (and was one of the very few islands we knew the name of before we had seen it), but Oda must've thought he needed one arc to be rushed through and the New World arcs are probably too important. Of course it could just be One Piece losing its flair a little bit,.. but things like a villian with no real depth or originality, random undeveloped characters like Den, lack of adventure and exploration of the only underesea island the SHs will probably ever go to, and random scenes to accelerate the story like Sanji's nosebleed.
But I am pumped for the New World. Liked a lot of things from the chapter like the humor (Luffy wanting to go to the most dangerous island was too funny, Skypiea flashback). Brooke's comment about never breaking a promise was deep. And Sanji is using Diamble Jambe in a fodder fight against Zoro, which shows Zoro must be putting in a lot of power too. This means full strength at 2 years ago is just used for playfights now LOL.
Jinbe wont join. He's another Vivi. But he'll definately fight as an ally, or maybe under Luffy, in the future. But there'd be no point him joining randomly, we don't even know what his dream is.
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For those who were as daft as I am, these were the pages that the pinky-promise was referencing:
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/624/7
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People thinking they're going to backtrack or go a second lap just to make Shyarly's prediction come true are missing the point. It's a very poignant message about how the future is never, never certain, that there will always be things that can't be foreseen, or foreseen mistakenly, no matter how much knowledge or preparation there is. Maybe Shyarly is clairvoyant to an extent, considering all she foretold in the past. But as we saw, it was foolish to take her word as gospel and try to impede the Straw Hats, potentially making the real villains' paths all the less obstructed. So if it does come true in a year, or more, or less, they're ready to take it as it come, and I think that, par for the course, is the best conclusion Oda could give.
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Ahaha…..I find it funny that Oda only wanted to draw young mermaids during the Fishman Island arc.....but doesn't drawing Kokoro on the cover go against that? :P
Anyways, this was an appropriate farewell chapter. You got Luffy making a promise to Shirahoshi, saying goodbye to Hachi, Keimi, the Mermaid Princes, Neptune, and his determination ready to steer the crew into a new adventure (lol at Nami, Chopper, and Usopp's despair, Sanji and Zoro fighting like usual, and Franky's wacky hair)
I liked how the local children wanted to buy straw hats to "be heroes", too.
@$abZ:
Reading this chapter increased my suspicions on Oda having had a longer plot for the Fishmen Island scrapped because he realised he had a lot of plotlines to cover in the New World which means a decade worth of work. This whole arc was rushed, and I kind've understand why. We expected Fishmen Island to be some epic arc after it was mentioned a few times already (and was one of the very few islands we knew the name of before we had seen it), but Oda must've thought he needed one arc to be rushed through and the New World arcs are probably too important. Of course it could just be One Piece losing its flair a little bit,.. but things like a villian with no real depth or originality, random undeveloped characters like Den, lack of adventure and exploration of the only underesea island the SHs will probably ever go to, and random scenes to accelerate the story like Sanji's nosebleed.
Hm, you make some good points here…..which only makes me wonder what Oda has in store for the New World. Well, if kicking things off by having Luffy pick a fight with a Yonkou is any such indication.....things are going to get really exciting.
One thing I am disappointed with, though, is that we didn't get any flashback with Arlong and Shirley.....I mean, I really wasn't expecting Arlong to have a sister, and I wanted to see Oda elaborate on that a bit. Ah well.
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People thinking they're going to backtrack or go a second lap just to make Shyarly's prediction come true are missing the point. It's a very poignant message about how the future is never, never certain, that there will always be things that can't be foreseen, or foreseen mistakenly, no matter how much knowledge or preparation there is. Maybe Shyarly is clairvoyant to an extent, considering all she foretold in the past. But as we saw, it was foolish to take her word as gospel and try to impede the Straw Hats, potentially making the real villains' paths all the less obstructed. So if it does come true in a year, or more, or less, they're ready to take it as it come, and I think that, par for the course, is the best conclusion Oda could give.
That's an interesting point Shift(especially that it's true she chooses to trust that boy with the strawhat rather than her prediction) but I seriously(maybe not so seriously..) doubt it's just that. Once the void century is unveiled and the story of Fishman Island where his friends live is known to Luffy he will not hesitate to destroy that Island if its creation was forced & unnatural to begin with. I doubt Fishmen will live 10 000 meters below the sea where there is little sun and light forever that's not where they were from originally as they used to be on the surface. That migration will be attempted again.There will be no more need for that island then.
As for backtracking we have no idea where that final showdown will take place and it just happens that the source of all evil is right above fishman island. Besides
we dn't know what Big Mam might decide to do to that island when Luffy confronts her with it at stake,there's the threat on Shirahoshi's life word will spread out when something does happen to her all of these could very much bring the strawhats back to the island. Luffy put everything on hold for Ace and sidetracked. Granted it was his brother he could do it again for a friend.By the way dsn't the New World seem to have much less islands than the first half in that map? There is so much plot to deal with in the NW could this mean the strawhats will spend much more time on the islands they end up on than in Paradise?(or will plot increasingly take place on the sea?) I remember a member theorising about the formula Oda has used so far changing in the New World.
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For me, the only disappointing thing is to read posts like these. It's sad that some fans don't truly value what Oda does and always tend to crucify him when something doesn't meet their own expectations.Why not try to become less intransigent? Why not stop to reflect a bit and see if the real problem doesn't lie in you, rather than the author? We got great reveals, many funny moments, some cool characters… it may have it's flaws,but the pros still surpass the cons, don't you think? That's more than enough for me. I expect even better arcs in the future? Yeah,definitely...but I will not call them 'disappointing' if they don't turn exactly as i've imagined.
Therefore,while I am always looking for more, I must say that I also tend to appreciate and be happy for what I already have in hands...especially when it comes to something that I have the pleasure of enjoying FOR FREE.
And just to complement my point, allow me to show this little video that illustrates decently well the message that i'm trying to convey here:
This is an incredible post and it deserves to be noticed.
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so what's gonna be the next island? Thunder, Ice, Fire, Forest or again something totally new?
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@$abZ:
things like a villian with no real depth or originality
Really? Because from where I stand, Hody was by far one of the most original and complex villains we have seen so far. His "lack of motivation" was his drive and character. He hated because that's the only thing he had known since birth. Lucci had ten times less originality or believable motivations and no one says a thing cause he's "desu uguu so deep and strong."
If anything, the most disappointing villain from this arc was Vander Decken; who goes on record as having the single most anti-climactic ending in One Piece history. His only purpose was literally sending Noah flying and not even getting a parting prison shot.
Jinbe may or may not join the crew, but I think it's significant that the mechanism by which he could return to the storyline in the future is much more pronounced than it was with Vivi (which was very much a "someday, somewhere" kind of thing). At the very least, we're not as clearly done with his story arc as were with Vivi's.
If Jinbe didn't join now, him randomly coming back in mid way into the New World would make even less sense. Both their messages were worded differently, but basically the same: "If we meet again, would you take me as your friend?" This is what cements Jinbe in my book as an "Honorary Strawhat" next to Vivi. Whatever role they play down the line is anyone's guess.
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@Miss:
Really? Because from where I stand, Hody was by far one of the most original and complex villains we have seen so far. His "lack of motivation" was his drive and character. He hated because that's the only thing he had known since birth. Lucci had ten times less originality or believable motivations and no one says a thing cause he's "desu uguu so deep and strong."
If anything, the most disappointing villain from this arc was Vander Decken; who goes on record as having the single most anti-climactic ending in One Piece history. His only purpose was literally sending Noah flying and not even getting a parting prison shot.
If Jinbe didn't join now, him randomly coming back in mid way into the New World would make even less sense. Both their messages were worded differently, but basically the same: "If we meet again, would you take me as your friend?" This is what cements Jinbe in my book as an "Honorary Strawhat" next to Vivi. Whatever role they play down the line is anyone's guess.
Why randomly, it's pretty clear to me that he will be back by the time luffy faces of directly with big mom.
Maybe it's gonna be a rescue jinbe arc with jinbe joining miday through the fight or something like that.
Assuming that negotiation about his crew break off.But that's just an plausible example without much thought. I'm sure Oda knows better.
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anyone who thinks jibei is not joining is only reading what they want to read, he's said he's going to join and that he just needs to break off ties with Big Mom, almost everyone who thinks he still isn't joining doesn't like him as a character or thinks he isn't SH material and so they'll avoid listening to what the author wrote and come up with there own conclusion that satisfies them
it's like how people don't want One piece to become DBZ level so they say sengoku was just trying to scare his men to be ready to fight (not sure how that works?) and that White Beard really doesn't have the power to destroy the world
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@$abZ:
Reading this chapter increased my suspicions on Oda having had a longer plot for the Fishmen Island scrapped because he realised he had a lot of plotlines to cover in the New World which means a decade worth of work. This whole arc was rushed, and I kind've understand why. We expected Fishmen Island to be some epic arc after it was mentioned a few times already (and was one of the very few islands we knew the name of before we had seen it), but Oda must've thought he needed one arc to be rushed through and the New World arcs are probably too important. Of course it could just be One Piece losing its flair a little bit,.. but things like a villian with no real depth or originality, random undeveloped characters like Den, lack of adventure and exploration of the only underesea island the SHs will probably ever go to, and random scenes to accelerate the story like Sanji's nosebleed.
But I am pumped for the New World. Liked a lot of things from the chapter like the humor (Luffy wanting to go to the most dangerous island was too funny, Skypiea flashback). Brooke's comment about never breaking a promise was deep. And Sanji is using Diamble Jambe in a fodder fight against Zoro, which shows Zoro must be putting in a lot of power too. This means full strength at 2 years ago is just used for playfights now LOL.
Jinbe wont join. He's another Vivi. But he'll definately fight as an ally, or maybe under Luffy, in the future. But there'd be no point him joining randomly, we don't even know what his dream is.
To be fair, wasn't Den about as important and prominent as Pagaya was ? He was one of the first people on Skypiea they met, Conis' father and the only non Shandian they knew by name outside of his daughter, but in the end, outside of his accidental god-like powers of evation, he was a pretty anecdotical character.
Heck I wouldn't call the villains too underdeveloped. Look at Chess or Kuromamiro in the Drum arc. Their fights were kinda brief and they honestly had little plot importance/character to speak off.
I think Oda might have never actualy intended for Fisham Island to have a huge plot, but just felt like he had to mention it as the "next island" all those years ago, even when he must have realise he wasn't getting to it any time soon. :ninja:
And I was actualy caught up and reading weekly when that was mentioned, so I have to stand back and realise just how long ago that was.
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@Miss:
Really? Because from where I stand, Hody was by far one of the most original and complex villains we have seen so far. His "lack of motivation" was his drive and character. He hated because that's the only thing he had known since birth. Lucci had ten times less originality or believable motivations and no one says a thing cause he's "desu uguu so deep and strong."
Eh ? I thought people honestly stopped giving a crap about Lucci since at least Sabaody started. I mean, Spandam is still kinda looked back on, Lucci…..not so much.
Hell every other CP9 member was a better character then him. With maybe the exception of Nero.
But seeing how even Spandam just mentioned him once in passing before EL even properly started, I guess that's not saying much.
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Can I give you a bro-fist?
I know I'm late, but. . .
Hell, yeah!
(although bro-fists are kinda Narutoish lately. . .)
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Jinbe didn't join now, him randomly coming back in mid way into the New World would make even less sense
Randomly coming back would indeed be horrible and he'd be better left back home if that was the case, but it was only last chapter Oda told us that Jimbei literally serves under the Emperor that Luffy, only the chapter before that, ended up saying he'll fight for Fishman Island's sake. He said if he leaves him BM's wrath might spill over to the island, and only pages later says that now he will leave her because of what Luffy did. You really think this isn't leading somewhere? Their goodbye was radically different from Vivi, too. Shirahoshi is the one who got the Vivi treatment. Not in that she'd become a crewmember but in the promise to meet again next time, even paralleling the entire crew joining in on it. Jimbei was left with just a wordless nod to Luffy, not even addressing the rest of the crew. That is no way to leave him behind. It's just about certain he's coming back before the end of the series. I'm just praying Oda doesn't stretch it out too long and kill all the momentum he built up for the character throughout FI, but he's coming back.
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Poor Den. Oda sent him to the shadow realm.
Nice ending. Overall, I feel I can describe Fishman Arc with one word, setup. It setup the Strawhats as NW worthy. Setup Jinbe to officially join the crew. And, setup other future plots like the Reverie, ancient weapons, and Big Mom.
Oda's been slowly gaining momentum during FI Arc. I'm expecting him now to hit 88mph then we'll all see some serious shit.
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Why randomly, it's pretty clear to me that he will be back by the time luffy faces of directly with big mom.
Vivi traveled with Luffy through Whiskey Peak (1), Little Garden (2), Drum (3), and finally Alabasta (4) before being left behind. Luffy traveled with Jinbe through Impel Down (1), Marineford (2), the Post-War arc (3), and finally Fishman Island (4) before being left behind. Now.. I fully realize this is hardly any sort of grounded basis, but Oda is a person who puts significance into patterns and the most minute details. I didn't dislike Jinbe because of his personality or motivations (?) but because what bothered me the most was this disjointed pattern he'd bring in. I realize now he's meant to be in the Vivi boat.
And hey – I might be 100% wrong. Maybe Oda is starting a new pace for joining in the New World. Maybe I've been looking too much into this. Either way, that's why I feel Jinbe joining after they deal with Big Mom (which will undoubtedly not come for another 2-3 arcs) feels even more random.@No:
Eh ? I thought people honestly stopped giving a crap about Lucci since at least Sabaody
started. I mean, Spandam is still kinda looked back on, Lucci…..not so much.I didn't know people gave Lucci flack. Oh well. I stand my ground. If they're gonna keep saying Hody was the most unoriginal and bland and blah blah villain, I'll keep reminding them the truth.
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Either way, that's why I feel Jinbe joining after they deal with Big Mom (which will undoubtedly not come for another 2-3 arcs) feels even more random.
But would it actually be "random" if he was an active player during all or at least most of this, was with the crew getting interaction, development, maybe even a flashback? That seems like it would work very well to me. It's not like he has to show up only when things are starting to come together for the big battle, fight and join. That would also be very bad in my eyes but it's merely the worst case scenario as it stands now.
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Does no one else see the parallels between Jinbe and Ace? Ace was fire, Jinbe is water. They were matched evenly when Ace was trying to find Whitebeard and Jinbe was trying to stop Ace. They were in the same cell in Impel Down. I think when Jinbe cuts his ties with Big Mom, she is going to get incredibly angry and capture Jinbe. Big Mom is going to have an execution to show the whole world not to mess with her. And Luffy is going to rescue her, in an arc that mirrors the Whitebeard War arc, only this time Luffy is going to have all of his Nakama and is going to succeed and beat Big Mom, after which Jinbe will join the Straw Hats and the Sun Pirates will return to Fishman Island to protect it. After all, who better to lead all the fishmen, then the Sun Pirates.
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anyone else notice Zoro didn't pinky swear with shirahoshi? I think he just doesn't care… at all, Couldn't see Franky's fist either. I also think I understand why Shanks was in East blue so many years ago. Just like Luffy made promises to Vivi, Laboon and weakhoshi, Shanks made promises and he was back in the blues to fullfill his promises before becoming a yonkou. (I reckon the title of yonkou is so important, one wouldn't have the chance to go to the blues anymore without risking any territory)