ghibli movies are truly beautiful. only saw bits here and there of some films (there was like a ghibli week on tv months ago), saw some documentaries about the company and all that stuff.
really good stuff.
Studio Ghibli thread
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@Oga:
You're in luck with Porco Rosso. Assuming that by living in the UK you have Film4, it's actually showing on Friday at 2.50pm I believe. So there's your chance, I recommend it.
Aw man brilliant. That was where I saw Kiki! I wonder if they're doing a Ghibli special or something.
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Aw man brilliant. That was where I saw Kiki! I wonder if they're doing a Ghibli special or something.
Every now and then they seem to show one Studio Ghibli movie a week for a month or so. Sometimes they show a normal anime movie, Metropolis was on a couple of days ago. Kind of random but I'm not gonna complain.
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While Japanese gamers have been expecting the PlayStation 3 release of the Level-5 and Studio Ghibli role-playing game collaboration known as Ninokuni for over a year, their Western counterparts have had no such certainty. English-speaking RPG fans and Studio Ghibli enthusiasts alike can now breathe a sigh of relief, as Ninokuni: Shiroki Seihai no Joou (subtitled "Queen of the White Ashes") for the PS3 has been confirmed for a North American debut in early 2012.
[hide]During a Sony Computer Entertainment Asia press conference near Tokyo Game Show 2011's venue, Level-5 president Akihiro Hino today mentioned during an interview panel that an English version of the game is in production and confirmed its release window. This PS3 version of the game starts off the same as the DS version of the same name, but the story is told differently after the game's midpoint. According to Hino, the PS3 will have additional story content that will pick up where the DS version ended.
The game will also be launched in Asian markets in Japanese. Level-5 hasn't made plans for a Chinese-text version, but Hino said that if there is a huge demand for it, his company will consider it. The game will also feature downloadable content postrelease, but Hino can't make an official announcement about it until a later date.
In the game, players control Oliver, a 13-year-old boy who is transported into the world called Ninokuni, which is a parallel reality of his own world. He is on a quest to revive his recently deceased mother and is accompanied by a male fairy called Shizuku.[/hide]
Well, I may finally have to hunker down and buy a PS3. It did just have a price drop after all…
Been wanting this for a WHILE, the first trailers were what, 2 years ago?
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And just for comparison, the Japanese poster art.
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It also bugged me how the forest god's wrath was killing literally everything, not just the "bad men". I would have expected it to do a cleansing, like in Laputa, but instead it was just destroying everything, including the forest it supposedly protected.
Yeah, I understand that the moral ambiguity and absurdity can make many people feel uneasy, but that is the movie's charm to me. Nature is represented as a mysterious, scary force. The animals' side are just as complicated and conflicted as their human counterpart. Ashitaka got cursed for trying to save his people. Isn't that absurd? The Forest Spirit lost its head and became a mindless god of death destroying everything including the forest it treasured. Isn't that absurd? "I think that is similar to the lives of people today. I think this is a very absurd thing that is part of life itself" (Miyazaki).
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I have just watched Porco Rosso and I loved it. The animation and style of the movie were awesome. It is sad, nostalgic and exciting.
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Didn't see anyone post this yet, so… http://thepeoplesmovies.com/2011/10/26776/
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I really love Hayato Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli's work. This one seems to be based off the Borrowers novel.
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Shouldn't this be in the anime forum?
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Wait, so this guy started a thread about a Ghibli film in the Western Animation section? That is so much fail I can't even…
He didn't even spell "Hayao" right.
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Wait, so this guy started a thread about a Ghibli film in the Western Animation section? That is so much fail I can't even…
In the plain ol' media section, actually.
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@RobbyBevard:
In the plain ol' media section, actually.
I am a failure at determining where people post things.
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I am a failure at determining where people post things.
Actually it got moved before it got merged. It was in both places.
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@RobbyBevard:
Actually it got moved before it got merged. It was in both places.
Then whoever moved it there was the one who made the epic fail.
Also, I'm a failure at determining where things originate.
Also, I'm a failure at double-checking and not questioning authority.
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So this doesn't exactly belong here, but who here has watched Future Boy Conan? What did you think? I'm thinking about giving it a try.
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I just watched Tales from Earthsea, and I can say with certainty that it is the worst Ghibli movie. Goro Miyazaki is 100 years too young to take over his father's work.
The movie had like 3 different plots going on, one about the troubled prince and royal intrigue, another about the sinful city of Port Town and the slave trade, drugs, etc, and how the land was losing all of its life, and another about the evil wizard stealing the girl and the heroes have to save her and the land.
Of these three, the first gets completely ignored, the second it dwelled on far too long for the lack of resolution it gets, and the last is concluded well but has little build up.
Moreover, this is a terrible adaptation of the Earthsea books. They took things from a few stories, as I thought they would, but then somehow got them wrong. It's Ged with the shadow, not the prince. Who's true name reveals him as a king in one of the later books. With that dragon girl thrown in, and also the girl from the tombs of Atuan. An nearly nothing is explained.
Also, the villain was done poorly. He had a very androgynous look, but a deep, soft, whispery voice. didn't match at all. If he has been just a bit more masculine, or bad a bit more nasally voice, it would've been fine. And his henchman, voiced by Cheech Marin, was doing his damnedest to be like the lieutenant of the Tolmekians, but he was too busy twirling his mustache and kicking the dog to conjure up any sort of charm.
The prince was intensely unlikable, and the justification of him making inexplicable choices and doing things for no reason was "the shadow of fear came into his heart" or some bullshit. And that's another thing: events happen, people do thing, for no reason. They just happen, and are never touched on again.
At least Therru and Tenar were voiced well, and of course the animation, artwork, and music was top-notch. The few scenes with dragons in them were breathtaking, and there were a couple of really neat visuals. But, I would have likes to spend more time on them. Giant abandoned boats in the desert. Bones inside. Why? We won't know, time to move the plot along!
The last half hour, once the action started, was pretty good, but by that time I didn't even care.
I can see why Disney was in no rush to get this one out in America.
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Also, the villain was done poorly. He had a very androgynous look, but a deep, soft, whispery voice. didn't match at all. If he has been just a bit more masculine, or bad a bit more nasally voice, it would've been fine. And his henchman, voiced by Cheech Marin, was doing his damnedest to be like the lieutenant of the Tolmekians, but he was too busy twirling his mustache and kicking the dog to conjure up any sort of charm.
Say what you will about the movie, it was a miss, and not a good adaptation of Earthsea… but don't hold the DUB against it. That seems a bit unfair.
It DID have ghibli production values behind it, so it LOOKED nice, at least. And I hadn't read any of the Earthsea books before seeing the movie, so the differences didn't bother me.
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So guys, a question.
A couple of days ago my folks went to watch Arrietty (apparently some, hrrr, dubbed version), and even though I had seen some neat, pretty pictures beforehand, I decided not to go with them. Mostly because I knew it wasn't made by Miyazaki himself, but also due to having read some really harsh reviews that criticized the film a lot. But now I'm feeling slightly stupid and regretful for not going. The question is, should I have? Is it any good, or more importantly, worth watching?
I'll probably go search for the DVD version as soon as it's shipped to the video rentals anyway, but I'd like to know what to expect.
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Doesn't matter if its Miyazaki himself or not. If you can see a Ghibli film on the big screen, do. The details are always amazing.
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it was good. i actually didn't know miyazaki didn't have a hand in it.
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I heard this new Up From The Poppy Hill Ghibli movie by Goro Miyazaki was really good!
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@RobbyBevard:
Say what you will about the movie, it was a miss, and not a good adaptation of Earthsea… but don't hold the DUB against it. That seems a bit unfair.
It DID have ghibli production values behind it, so it LOOKED nice, at least. And I hadn't read any of the Earthsea books before seeing the movie, so the differences didn't bother me.
Nice animation, but SO BORING
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Went and saw Secret World of Arrietty today. Pretty much agree with what almost everyone else has said, that it's a good movie, but it could have been so much more, and it's not among Ghibli's best.
It's got awesome animation as always, a strong female lead, a few classic Ghibli moments, but while it does have some pretty creative ideas and designs, it doesn't really go anywhere beyond that. The main problem with this movie is that it doesn't take any risks. Everything is relatively straightforward and simple and plays out almost exactly how you expect. This is really disappointing coming from a studio famous for its insanely brilliant animation, imaginative designs, and captivating stories.
A few other things that bugged me:
-Sean was a really underdeveloped and blase character, which is a shame considering he could've been the main character in that he was the normal kid from the outside looking in.
-This was not the greatest dub I've ever heard. The characters voices all fit for the most part (except for Sean's, who sounds a little too mature), but sometimes the lines are read too fast or come off as just very awkward.
-Where the heck did Arrietty's dad go in the third act?
-Hara is dumb. Instead of trying to capture the other the Borrowers, which, btw, she didn't even know for sure existed, why didn't she just immediately call the press or a scientific investigator as soon as she had captured Arrietty's mom?
-Actually, the entire third act was pretty disappointing, with Hara trying to prove the existence of Borrowers only to have them swept out from under her nose (complete with her looking crazy in front the exterminators). This is a trope that's been done to death and it's way beneath Ghibli.
-Mina the cat is suddenly being okay with Arrietty, rather than trying to maul her like she'd done every other time they met. Maybe because Arrietty looked stared at her? Whatever. That was weird.Anyway, I've said a lot of negative things about it, but I just want to clarify that this is still not a bad movie and is definitely worth a watch. I must admit though that it is hard for me to recommend seeing it in theaters, even if you're a Ghibli fan. If you really really wanna see it, then check it out. If you're not that excited or are kind of indifferent about it, then yeah, definitely wait to see it on DVD/Netflix/TV.
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Ghibli movies are pure magic. They're so charming, fascinating, inspiring. I love that they're all still hand-drawn and not CGI-animated.
I can't say which one is my favourite, they're all just great.
Usually I don't like Slice of Life stories that much, but Kiki and Totoro are so charming and nostalgic that they always make me smile and feel happy.
I also like that there's no strict "good - evil" in the movies.Jeez, I could fangirl forever…
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Ghibli movies are pure magic. They're so charming, fascinating, inspiring. I love that they're all still hand-drawn and not CGI-animated.
I can't say which one is my favourite, they're all just great.
Usually I don't like Slice of Life stories that much, but Kiki and Totoro are so charming and nostalgic that they always make me smile and feel happy.
I also like that there's no strict "good - evil" in the movies.Jeez, I could fangirl forever…
hey. i never thought of that. cool.
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@RobbyBevard:
Except in Nausicaa, Cagliostro, Laputa, Porco Rosso, Mononoke. They all have definitive badguys. Though I suppose Proco Rosso and Mononoke are debatable to some degree.
ya. I'd debate that. I see your point though.
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This might not be the right thread for this, but does anyone know if Miyazaki/Takahata's Anne of Green Gables ever got an American release? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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@RobbyBevard:
Except in Nausicaa, Cagliostro, Laputa, Porco Rosso, Mononoke. They all have definitive badguys. Though I suppose Proco Rosso and Mononoke are debatable to some degree.
This is apparently an old post, but might as well throw in my two bits on this.
Laputa and Cagliostro, yes.
In Mononoke, Lady Eboshi is pretty clearly drawn as a sympathetic figure. She's at war with the natural world, but really, that natural world is cruel and trying to exterminate her at the same time. Plus, it's shown that the people of Irontown are fiercely loyal to her, especially the prostitutes and lepers that she takes in.
In Nausicaa, Kushana is very similar. Her own troops are fiercely loyal to her–and she to them--and she's portrayed as a rather ruthless warlord trying to survive in a hostile environment. She's certainly shades towards bad-guy more than Eboshi, but as the original poster was pointing out, it's not a case of a good/evil duality. This is even more so in the manga, but I'll leave that off-limits for this discussion
Porco Rosso doesn't really even have a "bad guy," as such; Curtis is more of a rival than an enemy, especially considering the way the movie concludes.
So are there antagonists and protagonists? Sure. But I agree with Luffyko that one of the appeals of Miyazaki is that his movies only rarely dip into a clear good vs. evil conflict. For most of his movies, the protagonists and antagonists share more than they differ.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
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In Mononoke, Lady Eboshi is pretty clearly drawn as a sympathetic figure. She's at war with the natural world, but really, that natural world is cruel and trying to exterminate her at the same time. Plus, it's shown that the people of Irontown are fiercely loyal to her, especially the prostitutes and lepers that she takes in.
He could have possibly been referring to Jigo, though I would still agree that Princess Mononoke doesn't have an actual villain.
Legend of the Strongest Onani Master Kurosawa
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Oh sure, rebuttal something I said 3 months ago. I don't even know what I was trying to say this far from it. Probably referring to clear antagonists with selfish goals that oppose the main lead.
Yes, Eboshi cares for the women and the lepers and just wants to create a better home away from society… but she is going around slaughtering and deforesting to do it, is quite willing to kill the leads and knowingly work for a corrupt emporer, is selfish, and generally doesn't care who stands in her way. Sympathetic and well developed and likeable she may be, but she's definitely a major source of problems. More shades of grey than typical black and white conflict, but its not a movie without a villain either.
A "definitive antagonist with a nasty streak" against a "pure and innocent heroic protagonist" might be more accurate. But hey, I had the caveat that Porco and Mononoke were arguable. Definitely more villainy than seen in Totoro or Kiki.
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@RobbyBevard:
Definitely more villainy than seen in Totoro or Kiki.
In which the villains were tuberculosis and gravity.
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In which the villains were tuberculosis and gravity.
Well… yeah. That's exactly my point.
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@RobbyBevard:
Well… yeah. That's exactly my point.
Yep, I'm on board. Nice analysis of Eboshi, btw. Sorry to drag up ancient posts, but the way Miyazaki deals with protagonists/antagonists has always been one of my favorite parts of his work, so I went for it.
Vaguely related re: Kiki's Delivery Service. Kiki's was my first slice-of-life anime, and either my second or my third Miyazaki movie (my first was Warriors of the Wind!). I could not figure out what the hell was happening for most of the movie: "Oh, she's naive and in town, now the people are going to be scared of her and…no, they're quite nice...ooh, she seems to be losing her powers, must be an evil force...no, she's just having some emotional issues, and everyone's still really nice...hey, there's a blimp, maybe that's going to...no, just there for another kid to fall over...and credits."
I've grown to love the movie and the genre since, but I was deeply perplexed at the time.
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Whisper of the heart, while not actually Miyazaki, but Studio Ghibli, is my third favorite film from the group. (Cagliostro is first, even though not technically Ghibli, and Mononoke is the second.)
Its slice of life and I can't explain WHY I like it so much… must be bceause its just all about art and music and passion and being creative, mixed in with a bit of love. Some of the same things I really enjoy from Ratatouille..
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Did anyone see Mr. Dough and the Egg Princess?, I'm intrigued by this short film. I've been looking for it in the net, couldn't find a single torrent or full video of it. :(
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The Country Roads performance in the middle of Whisper of the Heart is pretty much my favorite single Ghibli moment. Unfortunately, Ghibli has apparently gone on a rampage against all the Youtube videos that have the song. I also find the main theme of that movie particularly touching. Still a little weirded out by them getting engaged at the end.
For me, it's Castle in the Sky/Totoro/Rosso in this big jumble at the top, Whisper/Mononoke/Cagliostro/Spirited in another jumble right below, Nausicaa/Kikis next jumble, and then Howl's/Ponyo at the bottom. Ponyo was a huge disappointment.
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Did anyone see Mr. Dough and the Egg Princess?, I'm intrigued by this short film. I've been looking for it in the net, couldn't find a single torrent or full video of it. :(
I've never found any of the Ghibli Museum films, and I understand they guard them pretty zealously.
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For any of you APers in the Nashville Area, the local Belcourt Theater is doing an awesome Takahata/Miyazaki two-week run: http://www.belcourt.org/events?id=79594
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In Nausicaa, Kushana is very similar. Her own troops are fiercely loyal to her–and she to them--and she's portrayed as a rather ruthless warlord trying to survive in a hostile environment. She's certainly shades towards bad-guy more than Eboshi, but as the original poster was pointing out, it's not a case of a good/evil duality. This is even more so in the manga, but I'll leave that off-limits for this discussion
Kushana is pretty goddamn black and white in the movie, it's one of the worst things about it really. She's a typical power hungry warlord character.
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Press release
Studio Ghibli have a history of making announcements on December 13th, and this year they announced that, for the first time since the 1988 double bill of My Neighbor Totoro and Grave of the Fireflies, renowned cofounders Hayao Miyazaki (Kiki's Delivery Service, Spirited Away) and Isao Takahata (Pom Poko, My Neighbors the Yamadas) will be releasing anime films in the same season, with summer 2013 plans confirmed for Kaze Tachinu and Kaguya-hime no Monogatari.
Hints and rumors about both productions had been recently backed by November domain registrations for kazetachinu.jp and kaguyahime-monogatari.jp.
Miyazaki previously created a Kaze Tachinu manga, and the upcoming movie will work off that and Tatsuo Hori's like-named novel in exploring the life of historic World War II Zero fighter designer Jirō Horikoshi's life. Frequent collaborator Joe Hisaishi will be returning to score the film.
As far back as 2009, the talk was that Studio Ghibli co-founder Isao Takahata's first movie since his 1999 water color style adaptation of family comic strip My Neighbors the Yamadas would be a retelling of 10th century Japanese folktale Taketori Monogatari (The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter) - the story of moon princess Kaguya-hime, discovered as a baby inside the stalk of a glowing bamboo plant. The story figured into many other anime, from Oh! Edo Rocket to to Leiji Matsumoto's Queen Millennia to Sailor Moon.
Shinichiro Ikebe, who provided the music for 1978 Miyazaki/Takahata TV anime Future Boy Conan, is attached to Kaguya-hime no Monogatari's soundtrack.
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[/hide]Its Miyazaki so… it means quality. I still haven't seen Ponyo or Poppy Hill or Arriety. I'm falling behind. Some day I'll get to them.
But The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter/Moon princess? With Ghibli production values? Cool. Peach boy would be better, but...
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Press release
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/10535/original/7f015161de9c37d37405503e9a792f3f1355405882_full.png?1355413195[/hide]Its Miyazaki so… it means quality. I still haven't seen Ponyo or Poppy Hill or Arriety. I'm falling behind. Some day I'll get to them.
But The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter/Moon princess? With Ghibli production values? Cool. Peach boy would be better, but...
A thousand blessings upon you and your offspring.
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I was gonna say "when is ghibli gonna be magical again I don't need more slice of life" but then I realized that arietty was magical, I just haven't seen it. and ponyo was magical, I just didn't care for it. and this new momotaro is gonna be magical, but based on the posters it doesn't look like usual ghibli style.
so I guess I really don't have anything to complain about, and should just go watch Spirited Away again…
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Wait, Miyazaki is directing again!?
Fucking finally.
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Well, I know its not a ghibli film, but I just saw Mamoru Hosoda's latest, The Wolf Children:Ame and Yuki, and I'll be damned if it doesn't THINK its a Ghibli film. I loved it, and that was watching it raw, no subtitles. Watched it again today with the subtitles that got put up a day later…. still good.
Just really gorgeous and great all around. I've liked all three of his directorial efforts so far (Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Summer Wars) plus the franchise stuff he worked on (was in charge of OP movie six-"The weird looking one") and was a key animator on some of the better Dragonball movies and such...
And he's just really good.
Can't wait for this to actually hit domestic DVD. It's been licensed, just... no announced release date yet. Probably late this year.
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Ooh, I loved The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. Just looked at some pictures, looks pretty gorgeous.
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@RobbyBevard:
Well, I know its not a ghibli film, but I just saw Mamoru Hosoda's latest, The Wolf Children:Ame and Yuki, and I'll be damned if it doesn't THINK its a Ghibli film. I loved it, and that was watching it raw, no subtitles. Watched it again today with the subtitles that got put up a day later…. still good.
Just really gorgeous and great all around. I've liked all three of his directorial efforts so far (Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Summer Wars) plus the franchise stuff he worked on (was in charge of OP movie six-"The weird looking one") and was a key animator on some of the better Dragonball movies and such...
And he's just really good.
Can't wait for this to actually hit domestic DVD. It's been licensed, just... no announced release date yet. Probably late this year.
Yep, Hosoda really established himself with those 3 movies.
Honestly, in the last couple of days, i have become obsessed with Hisaishi´s Ghibli soundtracks again, i just can not stop listening to it. Found a few live performances and variations that really have me hooked
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Now ladies and gentlemen, it's unbelievable to read but I haven't watched a single Studio Ghibli movie yet but plan to do so in the next time. Since there's such a huge range of films to choose from, though, I don't know which ones to pick. Could someone recommend me the best ones (the must-watch ones, so to speak)?
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@RobbyBevard:
Well, I know its not a ghibli film, but I just saw Mamoru Hosoda's latest, The Wolf Children:Ame and Yuki.
Well Robby, you inspired me to check it out, and yes, that was a damn good movie. Yes, it's got stellar animation and it's great to look at the adorable little wolf kids, but the story of course also has a lot of heart and truth to it. Does the movie think it's a Ghibli film? Well, I guess in the fantasy-based plot and the way it explores the nuances of human nature, but it also has that distinct Hosoda style to it.
Complaints? Eh, I guess seeing a woman make love to a wolf is a little oogy, but hey, love knows no bounds. And I guess maybe I wish they had spent a little more time on the side characters. Poor Nirasaki just kinda vanished for the last 45 mintues of the movie (I was half-expecting him to turn out to be the fox). But really, they're just nitpicks in what it a truly great movie.
Well, since I've seen Summer Wars, Girl Who Leapt Through Time is the only non-franchise Hosoda film I haven't seen. I'll probably have to check it out on Youtube sometime seeing as how they're charging $60 for the DVD on Amazon (the hell?)
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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Poor Nirasaki just kinda vanished for the last 45 mintues of the movie
Yeah, he was really great. And apparently he was voiced by none other than Bunta Sugawara, the inspiration actor for Akainu!
Also apparently Megumi Hayashibara was in there as Mrs. Fujii.
I'll probably have to check it out on Youtube sometime seeing as how they're charging $60 for the DVD on Amazon (the hell?)
The blu ray regularly goes for 200-300$. I assume it was low printed when it was first released due to no one knowing who he was, and then went out of print and hasn't been re-released since, so there's only X amount of copies about.
Visually its great but I think the story and creativity is the weakest of his three works.
