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Fairy Taint Discussion II
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Dooble Drugon
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That must have been a typo that they later fixed, for the version on Mangastream itself says ''she''.
I see that Natsu, Gray, and Erza have new ''standard'' outfits now, but why does Natsu's tunic only have one sleeve…?
So he can show off his Fairy Tail mark.
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Here's the play by play:
-I rather like the color page spread, it's pretty neat.
-So apparently the major Dark Guilds (even ones we've never heard of, how bout that!) haven't done much since the timeskip. Fancy that.
-So without Natsu and friends, the minor FT guild members are absolutely worthless. To be fair, that was a lot of guild members they lost on Tenrou, but it's still kind of pathetic.
-"Our Guilds greatest secret!" What are we on now, the guild's fifteenth, sixteenth greatest secret?
-"You will be the next FT Guild master, Gildartz!" Yes. The guy who left the guild for years and was never around when they were in a crisis scenario, besides the most recent arc. He's the perfect fit for the job!
-New Villains! Who have Dragon Slayer powers! DRAMA! My reaction: Meh. Fairy Tail has the same problem as Bleach and a lot of other shitty Shonen where the writer keeps introducing these new villains but never remembers to make any of them interesting. Great.So yeah. Meh chapter to a series that would be very meh if it weren't for the authors tendency to be really lazy at times (which knocks it down a few pegs). Same ol' same ol' basically.
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Thank the gods the main villain hasn't done anything in these seven years.
Zeref doesn't seem particularly malevolent, sightings of Acnologia tend to be few and far between (otherwise, you'd think that the Dragon Slayers would have heard about it at some point before it attacked Gildartz), and Tartarus (the last member of the alliance of dark guilds) wasn't as strong as Grimoire Heart (as I recall, Grimoire Heart was supposed to be the strongest dark guild), though the past seven years likely changed that.
Anyways, the chapter was okay - not particularly memorable, but the colour spread was good, and I'm wondering who the other two major members of Sabretooth will be (we already have counterparts for Natsu, Gazille, and (it was implied) Wendy (plus Happy and Pantherlily, though I doubt that the cats would be considered as part of the "five strange but capable mages" who brought Sabretooth into prominence).
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@Kareem:
Here's the play by play:
-So apparently the major Dark Guilds (even ones we've never heard of, how bout that!) haven't done much since the timeskip. Fancy that.
Sabertooth is new. We've heard of Tartarus, they're the third guild in the Baram Alliance, along with Oracion Seis and Grimoire Heart. We just haven't seen them appear yet.
-"Our Guilds greatest secret!" What are we on now, the guild's fifteenth, sixteenth greatest secret?
There were 3 great magics. This is the first secret.
-"You will be the next FT Guild master, Gildartz!" Yes. The guy who left the guild for years and was never around when they were in a crisis scenario, besides the most recent arc. He's the perfect fit for the job!
He was on a very important job for the Guild, and prior to leaving for that job, he was an active member. Plus, he's the most powerful member by far except for Makarov, even more than Erza and Mirajane. Macao is an average mage at best and not even an S Class. Gildarts is the best fit for Guildmaster.
-New Villains! Who have Dragon Slayer powers! DRAMA! My reaction: Meh. Fairy Tail has the same problem as Bleach and a lot of other shitty Shonen where the writer keeps introducing these new villains but never remembers to make any of them interesting. Great.
You're not even giving them a chance. They were JUST introduced…
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Sabertooth existed before the timeskip - we've just never heard of them before… and all the existing Dark Guilds (Tartarus, Grimoire Heart, Raven Tail) were explicitly said to have not done much.
What are you contesting here?
Also Mashima doesn't really have a good track record when it comes to introducing interesting new villains, so if Kareem doesn't want to give them a chance, you can't exactly dog on him.
"Oracion Seis will be better...!" "Grimoire Heart will be better...!"
It's not a new chant.
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I really hope that this Sabertooth guild doesn't become a villain guild.
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@Fire Fist:
There were 3 great magics. This is the first secret.
No, the first magic was Fairy Law. The second was Fairy Glitter and the third was Fairy Sphere. So yeah, this new secret is completely out of nowhere. But really, the way these "great magics" have been so brazenly handled without any real sort of buildup or real substantial connection to the main narrative other than "they do really cool stuff", I'm pretty sure Mashima came up with "three great magics" because three is a cool number without any idea of what exactly these magics were and now that he's filled the slots, we're gonna be getting a lot more of these extra secrets from now on.
And really, stop harping on Kareem for not having faith in a hack writer. Mashima lost his credibility long ago and he no longer has the cred to do something new or atypical and expect us readers to wait till it pans out before judging him.
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Who wants to bet the new villains just degrade into insane people who want to destroy everything?
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Maybe Mashima should ask Togashi to write, and maybe he can draw HxH when 'those chapters' come about. Dw, there aren't any female characters he could ruin.
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I really wonder if people are actually reading the chapter or just skimming through it.
When you have Makarov mention " Our guild's Greatest secret" that implies there are 3 or more secrets anyway and that this is the top of the pecking order. Now how does that wording deal with the 3 great magics of FT? It just means they aren't as important as this secret.Even though this manga is for kids it appears you still need reading comprehension skills to understand what the characters are saying.
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I'm surprised none of you commented on the fact Fairy Tail is getting a movie.
Anyway, I think this chapter was really good. I liked it, and focusing on our Dragon Slayer characters and the myths surrounding them makes me interested in this series again. I'm also curious as to what it was Makarov showed Gildarts.
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Since the only thing down there that I can imagine being that shocking is some person or entity being used to power some magitek device entenchment-style, I unfortunately think that the reality will be much less interesting.
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This is the most perfect way to describe Rave ever.
thanks
Hiro Mashima presents Plan 9 from Oracion Seis
lol
I'm surprised none of you commented on the fact Fairy Tail is getting a movie.
I'm not surprised , the anime is doing quite well and it's actually pretty good now.
As for the chapter: The new dragon slayers are boring looking, I sure hope the other 3 of Sabertooth's Top 5 have better designs to them and this guild better be
bad ass like this dude:
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Since the only thing down there that I can imagine being that shocking is some person or entity being used to power some magitek device entenchment-style, I unfortunately think that the reality will be much less interesting.
It'll be a really pretty picture is my guess.
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Alright chapter. I read it yesterday and can't remember much about it so it must not have been that good. Somthing about 2 new Dragon Slayers, Gildartz becoming the next master, and FT holding some secret in its basement yada, yada, yada.
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As I don't pay much attention to Fairy Tail, and mainly just read it as something to pass the time between Beelzebub Thursday and Noblesse Monday, can someone explain the whole lachryma Dragon Slayer thing to me? I mean, we have the three Fairy Tail Dragon Slayers who are all real Dragon Slayers, in that they were taught by real Dragons, and then we have these lachryma slayers? What's the difference? Seems like you get some lachryma and poof you have legit Dragon Slayer magic, of which Luxus, for example, still uses at every turn so clearly there is no downside to using it. Does one have an advantage over another? Am I missing something??
Oh, and am I the only one having a very difficult time imagining Gazille with an apprentice?
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Well, the fake Dragon Slayers gain their powers by being implanted with lacrima crystals rather than learning their magic straight from a dragon. One that Natsu fought went off about how they're a ''new generation'', and thus better, compared to the genuine ones, but given how these things tend to work, the fake Dragon Slayers are probably not as powerful as the real ones in the long run.
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I'm still a bit confused as to why the cats attach themselves to Dragon Slayers. I thought that Charlie and Happy were originally with Wendy and Natsu because of that weird infiltration thing. And that Panterlilly got beat into following Gazille because he thought that he was supposed to have a cat too. Was that supposed to be a sign that Luxus wasn't a real slayer, because he didn't have a cat?
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the cat's don't fucking matter, they are just there for show. Even lily who was bad ass got turned into a little bitch.
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Lily was always a whiney bitch for me. I never understood the hype behind him… aside from those that gravitate towards muscular/different designs and overall blandness.
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He's whiney? I dunno, I guess I liked that he was different than the other cats. But I thought that there was supposed to be some factor in combining cats with slayers.
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I don't believe it's just coincidence that these cats keep winding up with these Dragon slayers. Watch, Hiro will try to connect the dots some time in the future.
Probably some shared history between Dragons, Dragon Slayers, and the Exceed (spelling?).
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I think someone mentioned earlier that the reason the Double Dragons have exceed is because they looked up to Natsu when they were young and just decided that cats were a good way to get around.
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Yeah, that could be it, we'll see.
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I mean, the same thing happened with Gajeel, he noticed that Wendy and Natsu had cats, so he wanted one for his own. It's that simple, and if Mashima tries to make it another plot point in the future (Like he did in the Edolas arc), it will just be stupid and nonsensical.
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Do you think we've seen them before? At fantasia?
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^I doubt it lol.
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I thought the cats lived on a different plane/universe? Where do they go to just acquire cats? lol
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As I don't pay much attention to Fairy Tail, and mainly just read it as something to pass the time between Beelzebub Thursday and Noblesse Monday, can someone explain the whole lachryma Dragon Slayer thing to me? I mean, we have the three Fairy Tail Dragon Slayers who are all real Dragon Slayers, in that they were taught by real Dragons, and then we have these lachryma slayers? What's the difference? Seems like you get some lachryma and poof you have legit Dragon Slayer magic, of which Luxus, for example, still uses at every turn so clearly there is no downside to using it. Does one have an advantage over another? Am I missing something??
Lachryma Dragon Slayers can access that Dragon Force power up a lot easier than real Dragon Slayers, but the amount of overall strength gained from it isn't as much as the latter.
Oh, and am I the only one having a very difficult time imagining Gazille with an apprentice?
Yeah it makes no sense considering how unsociable Gazille's always been shown to be.
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I thought the cats lived on a different plane/universe? Where do they go to just acquire cats? lol
When FT was sent back to Earthland all magic was banished from Edolas. i.e. all the Exceed got sent to Earthland.
Here it is: http://www.mangareader.net/135-57084-4/fairy-tail/chapter-198.html
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When FT was sent back to Earthland all magic was banished from Edolas. i.e. all the Exceed got sent to Earthland.
Here it is: http://www.mangareader.net/135-57084-4/fairy-tail/chapter-198.html
Ahh thanks. Makes sense now.
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When FT was sent back to Earthland all magic was banished from Edolas. i.e. all the Exceed got sent to Earthland.
Here it is: http://www.mangareader.net/135-57084-4/fairy-tail/chapter-198.html
Oh, that explains it. It's amazing how bad my memory is with this manga.
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The only reason I remember any of this is because I watch the anime with my gf.
I also just realized that even if the Exceed weren't sent to Earthland during that, there were still 100 eggs sent to Earthland at the same time as Happy and Charle so it wouldn't be too farfetched for the Double Dragons to have them.
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Was that supposed to be a sign that Luxus wasn't a real slayer, because he didn't have a cat?
Luxus wasn't a real dragonslayer either. He was a fake just like the rest.
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Real Dragonslayers seen so far:
Natsu - Happy - Igneel
Gajeel - Pantherlily - Metallica
Wendy - Charle - Grandeeney
Zeref (possibly) - ??? - Acnologia
Rogue - Frosh - ???
Sting - Lector - ???Fake Dragonslayers
Laxus - Lightning Lachryma
Cobra - Poison Lachryma
Jellal (possibly) - Flame of RebukeSo, 7 total. Possibly 8, if Zeref is actually Acnologia's pupil. And Jellal being able to activate Dragon Force hints at him possibly being one, too.
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@Zik:
Luxus wasn't a real dragonslayer either. He was a fake just like the rest.
That's what I was saying.
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That's what I was saying.
From the way it's typed sounded like you were asking since you brought up the cats which don't legitimatize if someone is a dragon slayer or not.
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@Zik:
From the way it's typed sounded like you were asking since you brought up the cats which don't legitimatize if someone is a dragon slayer or not.
I was asking if him not having a cat was to be a clue to us readers that he wasn't a real Dragon Slayer lol. I couldn't figure out how to word it better. But I knew he wasn't a real slayer.
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Lily was always a whiney bitch for me. I never understood the hype behind him… aside from those that gravitate towards muscular/different designs and overall blandness.
Sadly, he got reduced to comic relief with the ocational exception of jobbing and taking out some random fodder.
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Lily had that sword used by that super final king demon in rave.
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@Zik:
Luxus wasn't a real dragonslayer either. He was a fake just like the rest.
But more awesome than most of the real ones though
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@ brennen.exe
Lol at gazille having apprentices but it is true … someone pointed it out at other forums..
here is the page : http://read.mangashare.com/Fairy-Tail/chapter-105/page013.html
I think that the cats which were with the newly introduced dragon slayers were part of the 100 eggs transferred to earthland along with happy and charlie….. i hate these cats.. annoying and somehow nakama power saves them from being foddered in every fight..
I had a crazy theory about these dragon slayer lachrima :
long time ago .. 400 years back when the magic world was in chaos ( during the time cait-shelter guild master created nirvana magic) ...there was a great war which included all the magic realms like dragons, fairies, humans, spirits etcc........ when the dragons were present and great war broke out between unknown groups.. they hunted the dragons and some of the dragons fell and were converted into lachrima
( remember lachrima can be created from magic only.. there is no other way.. a source of magic power can be converted into lachrima.. remember edolas arc and also raw magic power or attacks can be converted to lachrima like in the final attack of etherion in tower of paradise .. etcc)
i have a hunch that the dark guild Tartaros and fairy tail was present during this war period and played a significant role.. because of this great war ... the dragons decided that they should not interfere with humans ( remember igneel gave a warning to grandine not to interfere with humans and some of the dragons took sides...some dragons like acknologia interfere with humans and destroy them etcc.. and also grandine mentioned about meeting at dragon king's feast etcc..)
so thats why the dragon slayer lachrima are super rare as mentioned by laxus's father Ivan ... and they fetch an immense of money... and also the persons using the dragon slayer lachrima can enhance or increase their dragon slayer power by training, fighting etcc similar to the original dragon slayers and they are as potent as original dragon slayers if not stronger.. like Laxus is.... he can pawn natsu, gazille, wendy( all of them at a time) at any time..
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@ brennen.exe
Lol at gazille having apprentices but it is true … someone pointed it out at other forums..
here is the page : http://read.mangashare.com/Fairy-Tail/chapter-105/page013.html
I think that the cats which were with the newly introduced dragon slayers were part of the 100 eggs transferred to earthland along with happy and charlie….. i hate these cats.. annoying and somehow nakama power saves them from being foddered in every fight..
I wouldn't mind them so much if they served a point other then comic relief and "comic transport for Natsu".
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I have no comments about Fairy Tail, but I would like to echo the awesomeness of Blacksad.
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Brigid: At that time, did you ever think you would become a manga-ka?
Hiro Mashima: It all started with me copying and tracing their works but before I knew, it and gradually, I knew I would become a professional. It wasn't so much what I wanted to be—I knew what I was going to be.
:lmao
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But more awesome than most of the real ones though
This is true. Also had me wondering if there's a dragonslayer that eats metal why can't there be one that eats lightning? Would've been cool if among other things to add to his power he was a dragonslayer cuz to me at the time s-class mages actually seemed like a higher goal to reach.
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Because of the Fake/true dragonslayer phenomena, theres propably going to be Doubles coming out down the line.
"Luxus you pathetic weakling! Did you think you could win against a TRUE thunder dragon slayer?"
"Yes! Because being "True" doesn't mean you're the best!""Natsu you pathetic weakling! Did you think you could win against a high tech, optimized, perfect Fire dragon slayer?"
"Yes! Because I'm the real deal!" -
Brigid: At that time, did you ever think you would become a manga-ka?
Hiro Mashima: It all started with me copying and tracing their works but before I knew, it and gradually, I knew I would become a professional. It wasn't so much what I wanted to be—I knew what I was going to be.
:lmao
Mashima had to start somewhere and learn how to draw?
LAWLS what a fucking hack!!! -
Mashima had to start somewhere and learn how to draw?
LAWLS what a fucking hack!!!Are you seriously implying that every artist has natural talent and would never need to have some formal education in art to draw? Really?