The major Marine incident sounds really cool, I can't wait to see what that's going to be all about!
The TD explanation is awesome! Pretty decent SBS this time.
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The Franky mini-hand header is hilarious!!
And yay that my fave officer was mentioned-ch!!
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Damn you, Oda! Hurry up and draw that Marine incident :argh
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An incident with the Navy huh? The only thing I can think of at this time would be the Elders went over Sengoku's head and picked someone else for Fleet Admiral, causing a bit of a stir.
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OR now there are two Marines.
Marines of Absolute Justice (MAJ) and Marines of Moral Justice (MMJ)…
or not. Whatever, I can't wait for that.
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But Sengoku only made a nomination… I am not sure that would make a big incident if it wasn't passed.
Still.. sounds like it has to do with the admirals... probably involves Aokiji and Akainu and not so much Kizaru...
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Maybe the proposal of moving Marineford into the New World was the focus of the conflict…
And damn,Aojiki just got alot of character development!! So he use to be a lot more angry.
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Pretty good SBS this volume.
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Interesting stuff especially that there was a major conflict in the marines gives me the "can't wait till it comes out "feeling xD
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I still want to know just what exactly happened with the previous Admirals :(
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When Oda said there was an incident with the Marines, did he mean there was one that changed Aokiji's view of justice? Or that there was a big incident in the past 2 years?
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While I do think a split in the marines (True Justice vs. Absolute Justice) will come in the future, it would seem the "major incident" that Oda mentions in SBS is nothing recent and nothing that happened in the time skip.
Consider that in the same question he mentions Aokiji's transition from "Blazing Justice" at the time of the Ohara Incident to "Lazy Justice" by the point the story begin. Also consider former marine X. Drake and his role as one of the more prominent supernovas. I think it's pretty clear this major incident happened at some point between Robin's flashback and the start of the story, not in the two year time skip.
Also, the Five Elders don't have to go over Sengoku's head…they already Sengoku's superiors. They're not even his direct superiors...there's Kong and possibly others in between Sengoku and the Five Admirals.
I could easily see conflict between Aokiji and Akainu in the future....I actually have a theory about Akainu splitting with his faction of militant "Absolute Justice" marines at some point, thus making him a major enemy at some point in the story....but that's sort of baseless speculation right now.
Moving Marine HQ to the other side of the Red Line would be pure logistics. There's no way that would cause a "major incident."
X.Drake and his black warship are pretty clear evidence of some incident in the marines in the past.
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what does it says on Brook`s managers picture? hope it includes their names, i need the name of the short one
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Yes, the SBS this time was full of interesting info! No boob jokes this time. (there was a penis joke, though)
The Gyro question was a stupid one. The reader says he woke up one day with a crab hand and wants to boil it, whatever. The pics can be very misleading. :P
Thanks.
Oddly enough this post of yours got posted three whole times !
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Am I the only one who thinks this Marine incident was the utmost reason why HQ is now on New World?
I mean, they could have done that anytime they want. Not necessarily it happened because of the last war. Maybe there's something else to it.
Oh, and Skadi, that Albion on your avatar with that ¬¬ look is awesome XD -
This incident happened way before the TS. Surprised some people didn't get this.
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I'm thinking whatever happened during said Marine incident cause X Drake to defect. I mean, look at him as a kid, he seems so enthusiastic about being a Marine so something horrible must have happened for him to engage in a life of piracy. Maybe it's the incident, maybe not.
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I guess I am the only one who absolutely loves the retard questions in SBS, huh? I mean, I always want it to have some valuable information, but the main I reason look after it is for the lulz. I have to say when I looked the images of the SBS, the fishman question was the one I was most interested in… I was laughing just by looking at the images.
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The incident happened during the timeskip, sorry I left that ambiguous.
@No:
Thanks.
Oddly enough this post of yours got posted three whole times !
My internet connection was going coco bananas when I tried posting it, that was probably the cause. :(
@.access:
I guess I am the only one who absolutely loves the retard questions in SBS, huh? I mean, I always want it to have some valuable information, but the main I reason look after it is for the lulz. I have to say when I looked the images of the SBS, the fishman question was the one I was most interested in… I was laughing just by looking at the images.
I agree, and the dumb questions this time were funny, not the repetitive boob questions we get all the time. I just skipped them 'cause I was in a hurry and I thought they weren't priority.
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Am I the only one who thinks this Marine incident was the utmost reason why HQ is now on New World?
I mean, they could have done that anytime they want. Not necessarily it happened because of the last war. Maybe there's something else to it.Their HQ being moved to the New World is a way of making the statement that the Navy is starting to attempt to gain a lasting foothold there as a response to taking out Newgate during the Paramount War.
We already know that the second half of the Grand Line has been influenced more by the Yonkou and even just pirates in general; especially due to Roger kicking off the Golden Age of Piracy. Even though quakeman's final words reignited interest in the One Piece, now's pretty much the best time for them to start making progress in removing pirates and establishing control beyond that G-5 base Smoker was sent to during the timeskip.
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Kizaru follows "Uncertain Justice". Reference to how light travels can be said to travel as a particle, and a wave?
Big incident in the Marines… is Aokiji finally the partisan his DF implies?
Edit: Oh, this was my first post. Hello.
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Am I looking at the scans wrong? BECAUSE THERE ARE PICTURES OF THE YOUNG SUPERNOVA!!!
Why is this not big news?
Anyone notice Bonney looks A LOT like Koala
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Am I looking at the scans wrong? BECAUSE THERE ARE PICTURES OF THE YOUNG SUPERNOVA!!!
Why is this not big news?
Anyone notice Bonney looks A LOT like Koala
Because that single picture has been around for, like, half a week or so. People have already discussed it (including the Koala refererence).
I'd say it isn't Koala, though. The hair parting's different. The eyes are different. Koala never ate much. Bonney was surprised when Zoro wanted to save the injured civilian in SA, saying "who's ever heard of a pirate helping others?"… -
The incident happened during the timeskip, sorry I left that ambiguous.
Ah, so this has no relation with Aokiji's change of character then… okay.
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Ah, so this has no relation with Aokiji's change of character then… okay.
What would he need after ohara??
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What would he need after ohara??
No. The way he worded it in his post made it sound like there was an incident in the Marines that made him change his views between Ohara and the last time he appeared in the manga.
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So the incident occurred during the time skip, huh?
I wonder what it could be?Maybe something happened to one of the higher-ups in the New World?
Maybe the new Marine HQ came under some trouble?
Maybe Akainu killed an important marine officer who might have been secretly supporting a Yonkou?
Maybe Pwngoat ran away from home?
Maybe I'm making up ridiculous assumptions?
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The Japanese publisher Shueisha is producing four million copies of the 64th volume of Eiichiro Oda's One Piece pirate manga — the latest volume in the series to set a record for the most copies in its first printing in Japan. The volume is shipping on Friday.
One Piece has been setting records in first printings since volume 56, which held the manga record in December of 2009 for 2.85 million copies. Volume 57 was the first volume to hold the record for all books in Japan, since its 3-million-copy first printing topped Harry Potter and Order of the Phoenix's 2.9 million. Since then, every volume except volume 62 (published two months after the March 11 Great Eastern Japan Earthquake disaster) has set a new record in first printing.
As of the 64th volume, Shueisha has published over 250 million copies of the manga series;One Piece has had the highest number of copies printed of any Shueisha manga series in Japan.
The manga follows a rubber-bodied boy named Luffy who aims to become the Pirate King by leading a motley crew, including a three-sword-wielding Zoro and the female navigator Nami. The manga has been running in Shueisha's Weekly Shonen Jump magazine since 1997, and the ongoing television anime series premiered in 1999.
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I am very pleased to here this news.
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what does it says on Brook`s managers picture? hope it includes their names, i need the name of the short one
It's explaining the Tone Dials, doesn't give any names.
[sigh] Every time I read the actors' SBS's, I can't help but see them transform into the characters themselves. Not cosplaying, but literally transforming. It's a rather disturbing but incredibly fun experience. [/goes off to search for rest of Mr. Cho's SBS]
Edit: Mr. Cho's SBS is not finished in this raw collection. Where am I supposed to find it!? (ˣ/>0<)/
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That marine incident really sounds interesting.
I also asked myself what TD could mean, now thats clear.But the reason why MHQ moved to NW hasn't to do anything with the incident if u ask me.
The reason why MHQ switched places with G1 (I guess its G1) is simple:
Now with Roger AND WB dead there is a lot of $hit goin on in the NW. After all Shanks+Kaidou+BigMom can't rule the NW like WB+Shanks+Kaidou+BigMom. Remember what Croc mentioned back in ID bout those "silver medalists" who got defeated only by WB and Roger.
And also with BB doin havoc there with 2 powerful DFs it makes a lot of sense to have the HQ in the NW. Traveling through the RedLine would take too long (MJ) and the submarine way (FI) would be too dangerous even for those marine vessels (powerful DF-using marines could die down there just because of bubble-popping).
And the fact that MarineFord got almost completely destroyed during the war made the decision only the more easier.
I wonder what that incident is about. Sengoku suggested Kuzan as new marine boss, but IMO Akainu will let Aokiji get assassinated by one of his subordinates. It'd fit to his sneaky badassery. With Sentomarou as Kizaru's subordinate imagine one of Akainu's subbordinates.
But don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that incident is bout Kuzan's assassination, I just think that it could happen in the future.
We don't know if that incident happened in the past 2 yrs or 20 yrs ago.
And don't take it that seriously when Oda says: "I'll draw that soon!". The last time he was saying this stuff in an SBS was in vol. 13. He said:"Fishman Karate is taught in FI. That island is on the half way of GL and will come soon. Be patient…". And yeah, we were patient, for bout 50(!) volumes!--- Update From New Post Merge ---
@IgorGB
thx 4 the rough SBS-translation.
You're an engineer too? Do you also like Franky then? Cause I do like him.
Bout embarassing number-patterns: there are so many "meh"-theories out there, so I just brought up another one.
Just likethis one:
"Drake already was wearing a marine uniform as a kid? That would make the speculation of him being Kong's son even more plausible!"
Bout Urouge being Bilkan or Skypiean:
Well, his wings looked different as a kid. But whatever, so does his haircolor (kid: bright haircolor; adult: black haircolor).
And how can we be sure that only Skypieans have those "Double-Ball-antenna"-hairstyle?
The priests all had a unique design, so they look different from the "good guys". If they all had the same hairstyle, they'd have looked totally boring.
Gan Fall was a Skypiean too, but did not have such hair. Can someone post those "different wing types" of Bilka and Skypia? -
Shandorian in the middle.
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I'm apparently not allowed to link over there, but according to Greg's translations,
Ohara IS the incident that caused Aoikiji to change his perspective from "Blazing Justice" to "Lazy-Ass Justice."
Kizaru's justice is "Grey-Area Justice" and he came to that conclusion by taking in everything around him.
But there WAS a major incident that occurred within the Marines during the Time Skip that Oda is eager to draw.The rest is stuff that's already been mentioned, mostly.
There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.
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Shandorian in the middle.
Well, Shandorian =/= Skypiean. So the dude on the left is Bilkan and the dude to the right is Skypiean? They sure have different wings. But there are more Sky Islands than Bilka and Skypia (Weatheria to name an already known Sky Island) and what about "High West" Gan Fall was mentioning once?
@Silence:I'm apparently not allowed to link over there, but according to Greg's translations,
Ohara IS the incident that caused Aoikiji to change his perspective from "Blazing Justice" to "Lazy-Ass Justice."
Kizaru's justice is "Grey-Area Justice" and he came to that conclusion by taking in everything around him.
But there WAS a major incident that occurred within the Marines during the Time Skip that Oda is eager to draw.The rest is stuff that's already been mentioned, mostly.
Well, if that incident happened during the last two years, I hope Aokiji got sumhow replaced by Akainu as Supreme Admiral. Aokiji doesn't even have to die to get replaced. Sumtimes marines get degraded when they are beaten by pirates (Fullbody anyone?). I know, thats a bad comparison, but I just want Akainu as boss of the marines. It'd make the marines much more dangerous in the NW if he was in charge instead of Kuzan. I really like Kuzan as character, but he being the chief officer in such rough times when SHs enter the NW, that'd be just too boring.
Akainu would hunt the SHs down if he was commanding in MHQ.
So maybe he or his subordinates assassinated Aokiji (unlikely) or he managed to do sth to replace Aokiji as supreme admiral. I mean what else could have occured to the marines to be worth mentioning in several chapters? -
I'm apparently not allowed to link over there, but according to Greg's translations,
Ohara IS the incident that caused Aoikiji to change his perspective from "Blazing Justice" to "Lazy-Ass Justice."
Kizaru's justice is "Grey-Area Justice" and he came to that conclusion by taking in everything around him.
But there WAS a major incident that occurred within the Marines during the Time Skip that Oda is eager to draw.The rest is stuff that's already been mentioned, mostly.
Wow. So the incident is confirmed to have happened during the Time Skip?? That makes it much MUCH more interesting.
Whatever it was, we can be sure the war triggered it. And Sengoku retiring also got something to do with it, I'm guessing that the major incident revolves around the new Fleet Admiral. If we look at the facts:
1. Sengoku said "I'm nominating Aokiji". That means he doesn't have full control over his replacement, and the process is done either by election or direct appointment (most possibly by the Gorousei themselves)
2. The new Marineford is located at New World. It shows a new, more aggressive stance from the Marines. Now with WhiteBeard gone, they're trying to fill in his seat (taking over, "freeing", his former territories), and its also a good start to really deal with the other Yonkous. I'd say that's pretty ambitious for Aokiji (judging by his "Lazy Justice" view)
3. Now taking points 1 & 2 into account, I'd say something went wrong with how the Fleet Admiral replacement process went. And if I may venture further, Aokiji won the election but the Gorousei interfered and directly appointed Akainu. That should cause a major uproar inside the marines, enough even to split it into 2 factions (there's a theory about this in another thread)
Anyway, thats my take about it. Aokiji won the election, but it was Akainu who was made the Fleet Admiral, and so now the Marines itself is split into 2 factions (well, 3 if u count the neutral sides). And this might make a good plot to use, it can further play a role in Coby's character development; and used in the last great war of OP
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Jewelry Bonney is Koala and Jinbei will find out about her after he become Luffy's comrade.
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Am I the only one who doesn't think Bonney looks like Koala?
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Am I the only one who doesn't think Bonney looks like Koala?
You mean aside from the other 6 999 999 999 people ?
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Well, Shandorian =/= Skypiean. So the dude on the left is Bilkan and the dude to the right is Skypiean? They sure have different wings. But there are more Sky Islands than Bilka and Skypia (Weatheria to name an already known Sky Island) and what about "High West" Gan Fall was mentioning once?
Well, if that incident happened during the last two years, I hope Aokiji got sumhow replaced by Akainu as Supreme Admiral. Aokiji doesn't even have to die to get replaced. Sumtimes marines get degraded when they are beaten by pirates (Fullbody anyone?). I know, thats a bad comparison, but I just want Akainu as boss of the marines. It'd make the marines much more dangerous in the NW if he was in charge instead of Kuzan. I really like Kuzan as character, but he being the chief officer in such rough times when SHs enter the NW, that'd be just too boring.
Akainu would hunt the SHs down if he was commanding in MHQ.
So maybe he or his subordinates assassinated Aokiji (unlikely) or he managed to do sth to replace Aokiji as supreme admiral. I mean what else could have occured to the marines to be worth mentioning in several chapters?I honestly hope we get another arc involving a sky island. I wanna know more about this matter. I feel like we will with Enel's cover story ending the way it did.
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Since you asked, I'm explaining a little better. Oda says it's a technology that was developed in these two years. It's the same shell from Sky Island that stored sound. They were successful in cultivating and improving it. Now it's sold in pairs and you can enjoy stereo music attaching it to headphones or record players.
http://i7.mangareader.net/one-piece/609/one-piece-2424019.jpg
Could the mermaid on the left be wearing one of these headphones tone dial ? :
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@ ponx
your theory bout how Akainu would become new supreme admiral sounds way more plausible than mine, but after all we know that Akainu is a sneaky lil bastard! at least he manipulated this election (if there was one @ all).@gia sado
the only thing I don't understand bout that whole sky islands ancestors:
how comes that the scientist from mecha island knew how the moon-spaceys look like?
I also checked the wing-forms again. the priests, yama as well as adult Urouge all have that Bilka-shaped-wings.@Marcello and all the other who think that bout Bonney
It'd explain the conversation between Akainu and Bonney, yet its not likely she is Koala. After all Bonney is from South Blue and Koala from an isle @ GL.
I saw a fishman with the same hairstyle as Gedatsu in the recent chapters, yet I am not saying its one and the same person.
Oda drew so many characters these last 14 yrs. And if there are two with quite the same eyes and hairstyle, it could be just a coincidence. Oda could have given uus a hint already that Bonney is Koala by showing Koala eatin a load of stuff, but he didn't. Maybe they're related if anything @ all.
Bonney looks like Koala = sheer coincidence, trust me.
EDIT: + Bonney has got bigger pupils than Koala and Bonney's eyes look bigger than Koala's in general.
Next volume I'd like to c chibi-admirals along with chibi-sengoku and chibi-garp.
But a chibi-version of all the "old legends" would be cool too (Roger, Rayleigh, WB, Dragon, Kong, Garp, Sengoku, …) -
I'm apparently not allowed to link over there, but according to Greg's translations,
Ohara IS the incident that caused Aoikiji to change his perspective from "Blazing Justice" to "Lazy-Ass Justice."
Kizaru's justice is "Grey-Area Justice" and he came to that conclusion by taking in everything around him.
But there WAS a major incident that occurred within the Marines during the Time Skip that Oda is eager to draw.The rest is stuff that's already been mentioned, mostly.
What does that mean, Grey Area Justice? That Kizaru doesn't see things in black and white and that he can be nice to pirates or something?
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@No:
You mean aside from the other 6 999 999 999 people ?
But I keep seeing posts about them looking alike :/
@Marcello and all the other who think that bout Bonney
It'd explain the conversation between Akainu and Bonney, yet its not likely she is Koala. After all Bonney is from South Blue and Koala from an isle @ GL.
I saw a fishman with the same hairstyle as Gedatsu in the recent chapters, yet I am not saying its one and the same person.
Oda drew so many characters these last 14 yrs. And if there are two with quite the same eyes and hairstyle, it could be just a coincidence. Oda could have given uus a hint already that Bonney is Koala by showing Koala eatin a load of stuff, but he didn't. Maybe they're related if anything @ all.
Bonney looks like Koala = sheer coincidence, trust me.
EDIT: + Bonney has got bigger pupils than Koala and Bonney's eyes look bigger than Koala's in general.
Next volume I'd like to c chibi-admirals along with chibi-sengoku and chibi-garp.
But a chibi-version of all the "old legends" would be cool too (Roger, Rayleigh, WB, Dragon, Kong, Garp, Sengoku, …)I said they don't look alike.
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A major incident that happened during those two years? Now I'm really interested.
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@IgorGB
thx 4 the rough SBS-translation.
You're an engineer too? Do you also like Franky then? Cause I do like him.
Bout embarassing number-patterns: there are so many "meh"-theories out there, so I just brought up another one.
Just likethis one:
"Drake already was wearing a marine uniform as a kid? That would make the speculation of him being Kong's son even more plausible!"
Bout Urouge being Bilkan or Skypiean:
Well, his wings looked different as a kid. But whatever, so does his haircolor (kid: bright haircolor; adult: black haircolor).
And how can we be sure that only Skypieans have those "Double-Ball-antenna"-hairstyle?
The priests all had a unique design, so they look different from the "good guys". If they all had the same hairstyle, they'd have looked totally boring.
Gan Fall was a Skypiean too, but did not have such hair. Can someone post those "different wing types" of Bilka and Skypia?I've always liked Franky, but I'm finding his mechas lame. I hate mechas. I also hate mechanical engineering, so that's no surprise, haha. Electrical guy here. :P
Sorry if I've been rude, BTW. -
Hmmm, Reverie on Marijois and a major incident that went down at Marine HQ? Of course it would be drawn in flash back, but I still think the SHs are going to visit there right after FI.
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BREAKING NEWS (I think): It's 10 chapters long, not 11.
http://www.s-manga.net/comics_new/cn_20111104_wj_jpc_9784088703015_one-piece-64k_FI5up3uH.html
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I actually already knew that.
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So cause this happened during the time skip,that would be a great time to show our favorite marines in the current time-line.Like seeing Coby-meppo,Garp,Sengoku,Admirals,fleet-admiral,etc….Then have one of them flash-backing showing the inncident.So much Marine-goodness to look foward to!
