Enel will appear in the new world and hurl lightening at the sea. Consequently, destroying all life in contact with the sea including the SH crew whom are visiting Fishman Island.
- end of luffys grand adventure :sad:
How anticlimatic .
Enel will appear in the new world and hurl lightening at the sea. Consequently, destroying all life in contact with the sea including the SH crew whom are visiting Fishman Island.
- end of luffys grand adventure :sad:
How anticlimatic .
you think franky learned how to imbue DF fruits onto inanimate objects? Its possible since he was at Vegapunks lab.
Oh…OH!
That would be pretty sweet, I think. Then possibly if they found on the Sunny could use it and...yeah. I like that.
It's not that Chopper's hat has gotten bigger, but that his head has outgrown his body proportions. He studied way too much, and his mind is getting cluttered with information. But, in that case, once he hits monster point, the proportions will set properly, and he will become a savant. I'd like to call him Enlightened Point.
Oh, me and my crackpot theories. Should I put this here? Would anyone take it seriously…?
Hey guys,
First time post here but have been following this forum for many months.
I thought it would be cool to add this onto Usopp's new attack (if someone hasn't mentioned before) - "Seastone Bullet".
If he can mastered it he could hit some devil fruit users, but he needs to find the stone first… maybe Franky have some?? LOL
Some of Luffy's new abilities will be? Anyone, including after two years of haki training….
oh mannn
lets see:
gomu gomu no Haki-Pistol
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. gomu gomu no Giant Haki Bazzoka
well actualy I don't see it comming, I actualy dont know the boundaries of Oda's criativity, lets wait and see…:ninja:
Hey guys,
First time post here but have been following this forum for many months.
I thought it would be cool to add this onto Usopp's new attack (if someone hasn't mentioned before) - "Seastone Bullet".
If he can mastered it he could hit some devil fruit users, but he needs to find the stone first… maybe Franky have some?? LOL
its more likely hell learn basics of haki and hit DF users that way
although maybe hell do this first, until he learns haki
@Chopper:
its more likely hell learn basics of haki and hit DF users that way
although maybe hell do this first, until he learns haki
Usopp will develop the Negativeness Haki. ….:ninja:"me, no i didn't say that, no.
Seriously Chopper needs an upgrade.
I'd like to see he use poison or other chemical medicine/bio weapon to defeat the enemy. something biohazzard ..
considering he is a doctor
I wonder if Luffy is currently the only one in the SH crew who knows how to utilize Haki, let alone know about it; it's actually probably more than likely that Zoro could've learned a portion of/about it from Mihawk, and there's also a chance (though less likely) that Sanji could've learned of it from Ivan, but I sorta doubt it. :P
And Usopp learning Haki?? xD That would be friken awesome…but damn, if that ever happened, then it would be certain that the crew itself has elevated into a totally different level of epicness. o_O
Monster trio will have haki for sure. Dunno for the others
Monster trio will have haki for sure. Dunno for the others
Luffy is confirmed, Zoro probably, Sanji possibly. And if the 2nd and 3rd strongest don't, then the others most likely won't. Besides, there's no mention of haki outside of those three.
Also, I highly doubt Chopper will have mastered Monster Point as of this time. It'd be great if he does, but I find it as an opportunity to explain why Chopper doesn't have his chapter title yet.
Luffy is confirmed, Zoro probably, Sanji possibly. And if the 2nd and 3rd strongest don't, then the others most likely won't. Besides, there's no mention of haki outside of those three.
Also, I highly doubt Chopper will have mastered Monster Point as of this time. It'd be great if he does, but I find it as an opportunity to explain why Chopper doesn't have his chapter title yet.
Yeah the top three have learned it for sure… They are some hints that they have used it already in the past.
Not only that... If you look at Sanji and Zoro as Rayleigh used his haki you can see them both something noticing.
And if Coby was able to unlock it through stress than Sanji and Zoro as well.
And both Mihawk and Iva most likely know about haki.
I think, you can clearly say the boa sisters shows some hints how it will work for the monster trio
Luffy/Boa = CoC specialist + other 2 hakis
Zoro/Sandersonia = CoO specialist + CoA haki and maybe CoC
Sanji/Marigold = CoA specialist (Fire resistent is a hint) + CoO haki
Yeah the top three have learned it for sure… They are some hints that they have used it already in the past.
Not only that... If you look at Sanji and Zoro as Rayleigh used his haki you can see them both something noticing.
And if Coby was able to unlock it through stress than Sanji and Zoro as well.
And both Mihawk and Iva most likely know about haki.
I think, you can clearly say the boa sisters shows some hints how it will work for the monster trio
Luffy/Boa = CoC specialist + other 2 hakis
Zoro/Sandersonia = CoO specialist + CoA haki and maybe CoC
Sanji/Marigold = CoA specialist (Fire resistent is a hint) + CoO haki
I doubt Oda would give zoro CoC haki just because it would take a lot away from Luffy having it, but it's possible because Dark King has it so who knows. But I agree with all the rest of it. Good break down.
Oh…OH!
That would be pretty sweet, I think. Then possibly if they found on the Sunny could use it and...yeah. I like that.
If they somehow gave Sunny a DF it would become a hammer…
I think that's just a pretty picture
No way! I've been saying for years we need a Doppelganger Fleur! $5 she walks out from the Sunny next chapter, heard the whole tale from her room, never left the ship in the first place…
No way! I've been saying for years we need a Doppelganger Fleur! $5 she walks out from the Sunny next chapter, heard the whole tale from her room, never left the ship in the first place…
I really like the idea of a clone fruit, I also predicted/thought that Gang Bege had sum fruit similar to a clone fruit.
But Robin's powers are awesum enuff even without cloning herself.
And it could also be that she could grow not her entire body, but @ least her upper body or lower body.
But she shouldn't clone herself completely, no!
There should be an own DF 4 that!
Or a clone fruit where u can clone anyone who u touch in the moment.
But not like Mr. 2, I mean clone like a hundred copies or sth.!
When we get Robins new ability finally stated i hope its limited to one or maybe two clones a day or something along the line. Seeing that she can nearly produce infinte limbs, iam kind of sceptic, but a whole functioning body should be so difficult, that she will be exhausted even after creating one or two. I definitely don
t want to see always such scenes, where it seems like Robin took a fatal hit, but in the end it was just again another clone of her and she is okay.(like in Naruto)
Limiting her clones would require a strategic use of them, which would be way more awesome to see.
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But she shouldn't clone herself completely, no!
There should be an own DF 4 that!
Or a clone fruit where u can clone anyone who u touch in the moment.
But you can train every DF,so that it could be used in more effective ways..(just look at Luffy or Croc etc.)
I think it would be a great power up to not just create individual body parts, but after training two years..a whole body.
Also we already saw her improving her ability before Skypia, where she combined her arms with her eyes to rescue Usopp.
Next logical step would be to create a clone in my eyes.
Ohh and the fruit who clones everyone you touch …thats Bon Kurei`s fruit.
He also changes his body and not just his face.
I've always been of the opinion that Robin needs some sort of "base" to grow her body parts out of. Brennen suggested she could just throw a rock and grow her clone around it, but I think a rock with arms, legs, and eyes (and hair) would be much more amusing.
But really… sooo much untapped potential... like... Robin centaur! Or... Robin giraffe! Robin cerberus! Robin spider! ...One of these days she's going to grow a tail ...out of fingers!
This will all be very useful.
@Don:
I definitely don`t want to see always such scenes, where it seems like Robin took a fatal hit, but in the end it was just again another clone of her and she is okay. (like in Naruto) Limiting her clones would require a strategic use of them, which would be way more awesome to see.
Common misconception about Robin's ability; whatever part of her body she creates is an extension of her real body, so if she receives a cut on one of the hands she creates, she receives a cut on her real body. We've seen it happen a few times. Anyway, this instantly limits how she can use a potential 'clone' of herself. I think I already made a post somewhere around here about potential uses…
Yeah, overlooked that fact.
But it always seemed to me more like she received a sword slash on her limb, but her real body just has a scratch after it and she feels a bit pain.
I've always been of the opinion that Robin needs some sort of "base" to grow her body parts out of.
That`s true..she still has the flora-flora fruit which just lets her grow body parts of her..so they should be rly unmovable from that spot.(thats why she creates that many limbs for example to move an object)
That would limit her "clone"-use even more.
I just reread chapter 628 and i focused on the colorspread.Is it just me or Zoro's close eye is red?If you pay attention it seems like it has red color just like the red skull behind him.Anybody else noticed it?
I just reread chapter 628 and i focused on the colorspread.Is it just me or Zoro's close eye is red?If you pay attention it seems like it has red color just like the red skull behind him.Anybody else noticed it?
Probably a mistake… but here is the link http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/67430644/2
No you get me wrong.I read the mangastream's chapter but i just focused on the colorspread and i thought that Zoro's eye looked a bit red just like the red skull behind him.Guess i read to much into it and it's probably nothing.Thanks anyway
No you get me wrong.I read the mangastream's chapter but i just focused on the colorspread and i thought that Zoro's eye looked a bit red just like the red skull behind him.Guess i read to much into it and it's probably nothing.Thanks anyway
if i remember correctly whenever zoro used his demonic skills in enies lobby which i think was only one time with that demonic oni giri his left eye turned red which is the eye that he supposedly lost now
I've always been of the opinion that Robin needs some sort of "base" to grow her body parts out of. Brennen suggested she could just throw a rock and grow her clone around it, but I think a rock with arms, legs, and eyes (and hair) would be much more amusing.
But really… sooo much untapped potential... like... Robin centaur! Or... Robin giraffe! Robin cerberus! Robin spider! ...One of these days she's going to grow a tail ...out of fingers!
This will all be very useful.
Robin uses Tactics 15, but all by herself, to create the epic Robimech.
I think Franky is big enough to be considered the Big Emperor without any help already
Anyone have any theories as to why Nami has seemingly gone back to her old Climatact? She obviously asked Usopp to incorporate her new technology into her weapon, but why have we not seen the one with dials in it yet? No way Usopp upgraded it on their way down to FI.
I really want to see the straw hat crew's new abilities its killing me. It seems like they all got so much stronger, but I'm kinda dissapointed at the fact that Zoro somehow got locked up in a cage and luffy seemed to be losing to jimbe. Just how strong do you think they have become now? Just a thought, but do you reckon early in the new world they are capable of defeating a yonkou? because as I remember, at the start of the grandline, they defeated Crocodile, and shichibukai, so yeh. I just wanna hear you guys's opinion.
I really want to see the straw hat crew's new abilities its killing me. It seems like they all got so much stronger, but I'm kinda dissapointed at the fact that Zoro somehow got locked up in a cage and luffy seemed to be losing to jimbe. Just how strong do you think they have become now? Just a thought, but do you reckon early in the new world they are capable of defeating a yonkou? because as I remember, at the start of the grandline, they defeated Crocodile, and shichibukai, so yeh. I just wanna hear you guys's opinion.
Just read back a few pages and through the last pages of the Theories that don't deserve their own thread-thread….
@Don:
Yeah, overlooked that fact.
But it always seemed to me more like she received a sword slash on her limb, but her real body just has a scratch after it and she feels a bit pain.That`s true..she still has the flora-flora fruit which just lets her grow body parts of her..so they should be rly unmovable from that spot.(thats why she creates that many limbs for example to move an object)
That would limit her "clone"-use even more.
I think that in the last chapter Eobin did clone herself entirely that's a total improvment for her, I presume she can now do multi cloning… when will she mester the rasengan??? lol ^_^
Do you think that if Robin gets a fight in this arc, she will fight against either Dosun or Ikarus? She doesn't really fit against Zeo and Daruma, so it leaves only Dosun and Ikarus, preferrably the later, as he's a squid so it might be an interesting fight. Both should be physically stronger than her, too.
Brook needs a fight, desperately. But against who? Daruma? doesn't sound very interesting. So maybe against Zeo.
I want Robin to fight Wadatsumi. Someone brought up the idea of her using her giant limbs against him, I really like the idea of that.
I want Robin to fight Wadatsumi. Someone brought up the idea of her using her giant limbs against him, I really like the idea of that.
Hm, you think she can defeat him? Remember that he's much, much larger than her gigantic hands. And just because she has gigantic hands, it doesn't mean that they pack enough strength to take on a giant like Wadatsumi. She used 500 hands for each of the gigantic hands, and the hands still were only a little bit larger than Sunny, which is nowhere near the size of Wadatsumi.
Anyone have any theories as to why Nami has seemingly gone back to her old Climatact? She obviously asked Usopp to incorporate her new technology into her weapon, but why have we not seen the one with dials in it yet? No way Usopp upgraded it on their way down to FI.
Nami met Usopp in a bar immediately after the timeskip to ask a favor of him (which is almost assuredly updating her weapon). They had plenty of time, and bought fuel and met Chopper and all that. It's well within reason that he updated her weapon for her before they left Sabaody, and we don't see it for the first time until Fishman Island.
As for the dials, my only guess is that it's now a completely different weapon that doesn't rely on heat/cool/electric bubbles anymore. I can't even see any sign that it's segmented into parts anymore, even though it seems like it has to be, since it would otherwise be taking hammerspace pretty far. The weather ball bubbles must have more power/capability than the old bubbles did, so her new weapon may just be designed to control/guide them, or something.
Nami met Usopp in a bar immediately after the timeskip to ask a favor of him (which is almost assuredly updating her weapon). They had plenty of time, and bought fuel and met Chopper and all that. It's well within reason that he updated her weapon for her before they left Sabaody, and we don't see it for the first time until Fishman Island.
As for the dials, my only guess is that it's now a completely different weapon that doesn't rely on heat/cool/electric bubbles anymore. I can't even see any sign that it's segmented into parts anymore, even though it seems like it has to be, since it would otherwise be taking hammerspace pretty far. The weather ball bubbles must have more power/capability than the old bubbles did, so her new weapon may just be designed to control/guide them, or something.
I agree. Tho a segmented part would make even more sense now (if we remember the wind-knot thing). Imagine the three parts connected via wind knots, similar to this weapon here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-section_staff . She would only need to split the weapon and extend one or two segments to unleash powerful cyclones or tornados.
I really can't wait to see what Nami has in store, she has the most potential in my opinion.
Hm, you think she can defeat him? Remember that he's much, much larger than her gigantic hands. And just because she has gigantic hands, it doesn't mean that they pack enough strength to take on a giant like Wadatsumi. She used 500 hands for each of the gigantic hands, and the hands still were only a little bit larger than Sunny, which is nowhere near the size of Wadatsumi.
Robin was able to grapple Oars who was much bigger than Wadatsumi. She has enough in her to grapple him if she needs to.
Robin was able to grapple Oars who was much bigger than Wadatsumi. She has enough in her to grapple him if she needs to.
Nevermind. You're right. Although, Oars/Oars Jr. aren't much bigger than Wadatsumi.
Besides, Robin grabbed Oars with only one hundred arms, now he can sprout one thousand…
I kinda got the feeling Wadatsumi was bigger than Oars, but… hey, size is not THAT consistent in OP.
When Usopp fights, his enemies tend to be potent fighters capable of long range combat. Chu spat water bullets (but was also a Fishman), Mr. 4 had his gun-dog (but also fought with a monstrously heavy bat), Perona had her exploding ghosts (but also had an army of bodyguards and could turn intangible). Usopp's going to fight Zeo, who fights with throwing weapons (but is a fishman, and can camouflage himself).
Robin vs Ikarus sounds good, but I really like the idea of her fighting Wadatsumi now. Maybe that's Robin's "role" in combat, besides being able to kill any small fry that she's aware of in a second or two. Robin is there to fight giants… then again, Franky's early goal was to make a ship that can defeat sea-kings... and he's upgraded the current Battle Franky, right? (I'm actually hoping that Franky managed to copy Vegapunk's beam technology.)
Zoro, Usopp and Brooke have to escape their confines first... and as is, the three princes are still enemies of the Strawhats, so that gives us three extra combatants to throw around in either direction. Since two of the brothers are swordsmen, and both are focused on entertainment (singing and dancing, respectively), Brooke might be an entertaining fight for one or both of them... possibly teamed up with someone? Chopper? Oda does tend towards group fight scenes, especially with the reindeer involved.
We all expect Luffy vs. Hodi, Zoro vs. Hyouzo... and Sanji is sort of left with his pick of the other potent enemies. Fukaboshi seems like the strongest of the three brothers, Vander Decken is closing in (I think?), and Caribou is stalking the island somewhere, kidnapping mermaids.
Which leaves... Nami, and Franky. And on the antagonist side... Dosun, Daruma, Ikaros and the various sea monsters the New Fishmen Pirates control. Oh, and Jinbe is around but I don't know if he'll work with the Strawhats directly.
When Usopp fights, his enemies tend to be potent fighters capable of long range combat. Chu spat water bullets (but was also a Fishman), Mr. 4 had his gun-dog (but also fought with a monstrously heavy bat), Perona had her exploding ghosts (but also had an army of bodyguards and could turn intangible). Usopp's going to fight Zeo, who fights with throwing weapons (but is a fishman, and can camouflage himself).
Robin vs Ikarus sounds good, but I really like the idea of her fighting Wadatsumi now. Maybe that's Robin's "role" in combat, besides being able to kill any small fry that she's aware of in a second or two. Robin is there to fight giants… then again, Franky's early goal was to make a ship that can defeat sea-kings... and he's upgraded the current Battle Franky, right? (I'm actually hoping that Franky managed to copy Vegapunk's beam technology.)
Zoro, Usopp and Brooke have to escape their confines first... and as is, the three princes are still enemies of the Strawhats, so that gives us three extra combatants to throw around in either direction. Since two of the brothers are swordsmen, and both are focused on entertainment (singing and dancing, respectively), Brooke might be an entertaining fight for one or both of them... possibly teamed up with someone? Chopper? Oda does tend towards group fight scenes, especially with the reindeer involved.
We all expect Luffy vs. Hodi, Zoro vs. Hyouzo... and Sanji is sort of left with his pick of the other potent enemies. Fukaboshi seems like the strongest of the three brothers, Vander Decken is closing in (I think?), and Caribou is stalking the island somewhere, kidnapping mermaids.
Which leaves... Nami, and Franky. And on the antagonist side... Dosun, Daruma, Ikaros and the various sea monsters the New Fishmen Pirates control. Oh, and Jinbe is around but I don't know if he'll work with the Strawhats directly.
There's no reason after last chapter to believe that the princes would mindlessly fight the Strawhats. Not only do they not find them as a threat or as enemies, but they should also be preoccupied with saving their kingdom and their father from the NFP.
And we still don't how much good fighter's there is still… I mean Van der decken must also have more than 1 good fighter. Plus the Mud-Mud brother (don't remember his name), and all the See-Kings around there... There are enough enemies for the SH crew, Jinbe and the Royal bros...
I kinda got the feeling Wadatsumi was bigger than Oars, but… hey, size is not THAT consistent in OP.
http://i19.mangareader.net/one-piece/618/one-piece-2424183.jpg
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/606/12
He is clearly much bigger than oars whichever pic you use.
Luffy is an ant compared to him in your pic and almost flee sized in his original appearance. Even the Sunny is smaller in comparison to Wadatsumi than normal people to Oars.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-7/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-10/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2587-4/one-piece/chapter-480.html
Compared to the buildings oars is only 70-80 feet tall. Wadatsumi fists are the same size as Oar's head.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-29884-3/one-piece/chapter-555.html
Here is a marine battle ship only a little bigger than Sunny and its length is roughly oars height. No comparison Wadatsumi dwarfs Oars worse than Oars dwarfs other giants. Best part is that the Oars family is still stronger.
[qimg]http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/606/12[/qimg]
He is clearly much bigger than oars whichever pic you use.
Luffy is an ant compared to him in the your pic and almost flee sized in his original appearance. Even the Sunny is smaller in comparison to Wadatsumi than normal people to Oars.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-7/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-10/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2587-4/one-piece/chapter-480.html
Compared to the buildings oars is only 70-80 feet tall. Wadatsumi fists are the same size as Oars head.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-29884-3/one-piece/chapter-555.html
Here is a marine battle ship only a little bigger than Sunny and its length is roughly oars height. No comparison Wadatsumi dwarfs Oars worse than Oars dwarfs other giants. Best part is that the Oars family is still stronger.
While some of the pictures didn't work, thanks for backing me up here Someone was claiming the opposite.
[qimg]http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/606/12[/qimg]http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/606/12
He is clearly much bigger than oars whichever pic you use.
Luffy is an ant compared to him in the your pic and almost flee sized in his original appearance. Even the Sunny is smaller in comparison to Wadatsumi than normal people to Oars.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-7/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2577-10/one-piece/chapter-470.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2587-4/one-piece/chapter-480.html
Compared to the buildings oars is only 70-80 feet tall. Wadatsumi fists are the same size as Oars head.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-29884-3/one-piece/chapter-555.html
Here is a marine battle ship only a little bigger than Sunny and its length is roughly oars height. No comparison Wadatsumi dwarfs Oars worse than Oars dwarfs other giants. Best part is that the Oars family is still stronger.
I don't think that marine ship is only a little bigger than the Sunny, considering it's a bit bigger than those giants which i'm pretty sure are quite a bit bigger than the Sunny.
I might be wrong though, so pull me up on it if I am.
Talking a little bigger than Sunny in comparison to Wadatsumi. Being 5x bigger than the sunny is still a slightly bigger minnow compared to Wadatsumi.
Odd Oda would introduce such a large character after hyping the Oars line with the "Continent Puller" title then introduce the death row inmate San Juan Wolf. Guess he is trying to make the point strength=/= size. Both Wolf and Oars would rape full grown sea kings while Wadatsumi is a right hand of a mid-level fighter and was already messed up by Luffy and Surume. Going to say Wadatsumi in the city is a more accurate representation of his size(like 3/4 Wolf's).
It's pretty cool how absolutely massive that arc, Noah, is. It completely dwarfs Wadatsumi.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/45311205/4
But I guess it would be since the people of FI used it to attempt moving to the surface long ago. Wonder if it'll play any more of a role in this arc.
hey guyz, oda said that one of the straw hat crew will be dead and guess what,
WE GOT BROOK, YoHoHO skull joke
Talking a little bigger than Sunny in comparison to Wadatsumi. Being 5x as big as the sunny is still a slightly bigger minnow compared to Wadatsumi.
Odd Oda would introduce such a large character after hyping the Oars line with the "Continent Puller" title then introduce the death row inmate San Juan Wolf. Guess he is trying to make the point strength=/= size. Both Wolf and Oars would rape full grown sea kings while Wadatsumi is a right hand of a mid-level fighter and was already messed up by Luffy and a Surume. Going to say Wadatsumi in the city is a more accurate representation of his size(like 3/4 Wolf's).
While i totally agree with you that size =/= strenght,and that Wadatsumi is at least 4-5 times bigger than Oars,i disagree on the "Wadatsumi is like 3/4 of SJW" because Wolf has clearly a "Sea King body size" like the ones Shirahoshi summoned or even a bit smaller but i think you get the point, unlike Wadatsumi who is smaller than Surume.
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/607/3
To me it's clear that Wadatsumi is at best the size of Wolf's head,or you think that SJW who was around the whole MF fortress is slightly bigger than Surume?