I repeat myself because when someone respond to me,never read my previous posts so i have to tell my points again and again.Actually why did you get the impresion that jinbe was terrified?Hodi's,Decken's,tenryubito and the civilians where terrified but jinbe's face was nothing like terrified, just surprised.It's not the same,really.I don't care about wining or losing that's your opinion,not that it really matters to me,and from the begining it was my opinion that this power of shirahoshi doesn't seem to ME something that cannot be stopped,that's all.
About the momonga example,as i already said many times if he can take out a smaller even if he got eaten,where is the problem for countless stronger fighters than him to kill the bigger?Noone answeared me this..
Also if we go by your logic about Otohime's(Oda) line,then we should take the words of Don Krieg(Oda) that having many weapons with an armor and a bunch of weaklings you can conquer the GL or about Arlong's(Oda) or Hodi's(Oda) that fishmen are the strongest creatures in the world literally.Don't need to continue,do i ?
Chapter 626: "The Three Neptune Brothers" Discussion
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I repeat myself because when someone respond to me,never read my previous posts so i have to tell my points again and again.
No, you really don't. Please don't.
Actually why did you get the impresion that jinbe was terrified?Hodi's,Decken's,tenryubito and the civilians where terrified but jinbe's face was nothing like terrified, just surprised.It's not the same,really.
I don't care about wining or losing that's your opinion,not that it really matters to me,and from the begining it was my opinion that this power of shirahoshi doesn't seem to ME something that cannot be stopped,that's all.
NOBODY SAID IT COULDN'T BE STOPPED. Things capable of destroying the world are stopped in stories all the time.
Also if we go by your logic about Otohime's(Oda) line,then we should take the words of Don Krieg(Oda) that having many weapons with an armor and a bunch of weaklings you can conquer the GL or about Arlong's(Oda) or Hodi's(Oda) that fishmen are the strongest creatures in the world literally.Don't need to continue,do i ?
That's amazingly stupid. Learn to read context.
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No, you really don't. Please don't.
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8135/jinbescared.jpg
NOBODY SAID IT COULDN'T BE STOPPED. Things capable of destroying the world are stopped in stories all the time.
That's amazingly stupid. Learn to read context.
No need to show me jinbe's face.It's more like he was shocked rather than scared.If his face is "terrified" then how do you explain other people's face?
Nobody said it couldn't be stopped? Until now all of you acting like there is no tomorrow if EVER shirahoshi could summon those SeaKings without know HOW MANY of those HUGE sea kings exists or HOW MANY she can summon and you come up with reasons like "x strong characters will be eaten then kill the sea kings then drowns".On the other hand i gave you plenty examples and plenty chars that can kill them either for their own asses to be saved or to protect the civilians.
As much stupid is from my side,so it's from yours.
Anyway to end this.Even if it's said that she can destroy the world we will NEVER find out,at best at the end when the great war will take place we'll see her summoning some of those sea kings and then we'll get to know how easy or how hard is for some chars to handle them.
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but jinbe's face was nothing like terrified, just surprised.It's not the same,really.
Sorry to spoil it for you (…nah, actually I'm not at all), but no, Jimbe was completely shocked... see image above.
then we should take the words of Don Krieg(Oda) that having many weapons with an armor and a bunch of weaklings you can conquer the GL or about Arlong's(Oda) or Hodi's(Oda) that fishmen are the strongest creatures in the world literally.Don't need to continue,do i ?
What a retarded argument, specially when you consider some villian's twisted notions as true when they have been proved wrong several times.
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Sorry to spoil it for you (…nah, actually I'm not at all), but no, Jimbe was completely shocked... see image above.
What a retarded argument, specially when you consider some villian's twisted notions as true when they have been proved wrong several times.
this was my point anyway he was shocked or whatever read my previous post,but nothing like scared/terrified etc etc.Surprised/shocked are different than scared/terrified.
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this was my point anyway he was shocked or whatever read my previous post,but nothing like scared/terrified etc etc.Surprised/shocked are different than scared/terrified.
I don't consider their lines as true that was my point,it's not like everytime someone says something it's true.If you're gonna discuss over the subtle differences of a scared and a shocked face in manga drawings then there's no point in this. You're just stubborn enough to even retort with such stupid stuff only to prove that you're right.
My advice: don't let your anger and specially your pride to get in the way of proper discussion. The more you cling to your pride and that stupid need to "prove yourself right" or "prove the other wrong" will only make you look like a fool.
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No need to show me jinbe's face.It's more like he was shocked rather than scared.If his face is "terrified" then how do you explain other people's face?
How you see that as anything but scared is baffling to me.
Nobody said it couldn't be stopped? Until now all of you acting like there is no tomorrow if EVER shirahoshi could summon those SeaKings without know HOW MANY of those HUGE sea kings exists or HOW MANY she can summon and you come up with reasons like "x strong characters will be eaten then kill the sea kings then drowns".On the other hand i gave you plenty examples and plenty chars that can kill them.
It's an ability that has the power to destroy the world. I have the power to eat a sandwich. The sandwich is in danger. Nowhere does that imply that I can't be stopped from eating the sandwich. You're trying to focus on things that aren't there.
I couldn't give two shits about a stupid, baseless strength argument. I know a couple people have gotten caught up with who would win a fight, which is still stupid to me, but even amidst all of it, nobody has said that the power was totally unstoppable that I can recall. However, I shouldn't have said "nobody" on a forum like this, which is my mistake. I should have said "Otohime."
All you've given examples of are characters that you believe can kill them. We have no confirmation either way. The scale is far too different from the ones that have been killed to make any assumptions.
As much stupid is from my side,so it's from yours.
No, not even close. Even your sentences sound stupid.
Anyway to end this.Even if it's said that she can destroy the world we will NEVER find out,at best at the end when the great war will take place we'll see her summoning some of those sea kings and then we'll get to know how easy or how hard is for some chars to handle them.
I won't be surprised in the slightest if they annihilate one single island to demonstrate the power of it. Something that size will get defeated by the end of the story, SJW if nothing else, and we'll understand exactly how much power is necessary for it then. Even still, that was never the point of Otohime's line in the first place.
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If you're gonna discuss over the subtle differences of a scared and a shocked face in manga drawings then there's no point in this. You're just stubborn enough to even retort with such stupid stuff only to prove that you're right.
My advice: don't let your anger and specially your pride to get in the way of proper discussion. The more you cling to your pride and that stupid need to "prove yourself right" or "prove the other wrong" will only make you look like a fool.
It's not about the subtitle but scared/terrified faces is like hodi's tenryubito's etc etc not jinbe's.He looks more surprised than scared.
It has nothing to do with pride or anger really it's just what i believe about this so called "power to destroy the world" and i believe that is nothing that it can't be stopped that's all.Doesn't matter to me to prove the others wrong i said it before that everybody has his own opinion and it cannot be changed because i doubt the scenario that shirahoshi summons "X" sea kings to destroy the world will ever happen.As i already said at best we'll see her summoning them during the last war to assist luffy.
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I've already told this dude that the matter in question is their high potential of threat to the world, not a stupid DB powerlevel discussion.
He obviously lacks comprehension necessary to deduce that logic, and keeps babbling like a broken record player.I guess look the other way and move on?
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How you see that as anything but scared is baffling to me.
It's an ability that has the power to destroy the world. I have the power to eat a sandwich. The sandwich is in danger. Nowhere does that imply that I can't be stopped from eating the sandwich. You're trying to focus on things that aren't there.
I couldn't give two shits about a stupid, baseless strength argument. I know a couple people have gotten caught up with who would win a fight, which is still stupid to me, but even amidst all of it, nobody has said that the power was totally unstoppable that I can recall. However, I shouldn't have said "nobody" on a forum like this, which is my mistake. I should have said "Otohime."
All you've given examples of are characters that you believe can kill them. We have no confirmation either way. The scale is far too different from the ones that have been killed to make any assumptions.
No, not even close. Even your sentences sound stupid.
I won't be surprised in the slightest if they annihilate one single island to demonstrate the power of it. Something that size will get defeated by the end of the story, SJW if nothing else, and we'll understand exactly how much power is necessary for it then. Even still, that was never the point of Otohime's line in the first place.
Because scared/terrified are the faces of hodi,civilians etc etc.To me he looks more surprised than scared.Not that it really matters and hardly has anything to do with my point at the begining of all this.
By your logic we don't have confirmation either about those sea kings destroying an island/country etc etc,only that the princess can summon them and with bad intention the world can be destroyed,so just because it was told why we have to believe this?Don't get me wrong i am sure they can destroy an island i just telling you that because a char didn't kill one of those doesn't mean he cant.
Well my sentences sound stupid cuz as i can see you are from USA and it's your first language,however it's not mine so i do some grammar mistakes or wrong sentences.If you ever tried writing in my language i am sure you would have the same problem.Again does it really matter?It's not a school neither a forum about the english language,it's just a forum about manga etc etc,so it doesn't really matter if you get the point it's fine by me.
Neither do i and i believe that 2-3 Sea Kings can destroy an island,however i doubt that SJW is the same just because he is human,i mean he thinks etc etc unlike those Sea Kings that despite their HUGE BODY they are DULL and just eat/destroy whatever they see infront of them.
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I thought you thread banned him. Anyway moving on.
Who do you think is the culprit?
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I've already told this dude that the matter in question is their high potential of threat to the world, not a stupid DB powerlevel discussion.
He obviously lacks comprehension necessary to deduce that logic, and keeps babbling like a broken record player.I guess look the other way and move on?
I was having a little fun and trying to keep it original, but yes, you're right. As tempting as it is, it's time.
I thought you thread banned him. Anyway moving on.
I'm not big on using my mod powers to win an argument.
If he continues it when it's dead, that's another story.
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Who do you think is the culprit?
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Hodi!?I wouldn't be terribly surprised, but that's kinda the problem if we're trying to build suspence. We already know the guy's bad news; would this be just to show he became irredeemable this early?
I could see him in cahoots with someone else, maybe being the one to start the fire, but not the one to pull the trigger at this point.
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I think it'd be pretty interesting if the theory of CP9 being hired by the Celestial Dragon to assassin Otohime to be correct.
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So right now if we assume that there is not an unknown character involved with her murder,that leave(sp?) the characters we know that dont "like" otohime and maybe they want her dead are:
1)most obvious candidate tenryubito or someone they hired to do the job, but i hope Oda will come up with something unpredicted
2)Hodi because we saw how much he hated the tenryubitos and maybe otohime's acts about "human-fishmen live together" etc etc enraged him and decided to kill her,afterall in the current storyline he told his crew to force the civilians of FI to step on her photo,but still Hodi lacks some REALLY good reason for killing her but who knows..Some of you said about hyozou but i really doubt because even if his nickname is "assasin" we know that he is the N1 swordsman in FI and even if someone gave him money i doubt that he would use gun and not his sword,and some said about VDD because he hold a gun/rifle during Otohime's murder but there is no way to be him he is TOO GOOFY and as the other he LACKS of a good reason.Also there is Aladin which is unlikely because he seems a good character and probably thinking like jinbe, but maybe there will be a twist by Oda cuz in the last chapters his name is droped quite a few times and afterall he was a slave before and fanfic here aladin is a doctor and we have the ES maybe he is behind, fanfic ends.Last but not least,MADAM SHIRLEY,i know i know she is female and probably weak etcetc i am thinking the same as you BUT just because of her being "SHARK based mermaid" makes me think that there might be more than meets the eye,if you know what i mean
Those are all the "important" characters right know and i doubt that the murderer will be someone for example, a random guard of the palace or a henchman of VDD or someone fodder,you get the point.So my guess is that the one responsible for queen's death is an unknown char that during the climax of the arc will be revealed and probably will be the REAL BOSS or as i said above a tenryubito being involved either by himself which is unlikely cuz they are weaklings or by someone they hired up to "do the job"
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Last but not least,MADAM SHIRLEY,i know i know she is female and probably weak etcetc i am thinking the same as you BUT just because of her being "SHARK based mermaid" makes me think that there might be more than meets the eye,if you know what i mean [qimg]http://mangahelpers.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/qimg]
I'm kind of offended by this. What the hell does Shyari being female have to do with absolutely anything?
Being shark based doesn't mean shit either. Jinbe and Fukaboshi are also sharks but that doesn't mean they're evil. Mostly it's Oda not knowing enough about fish to go past sharks, food, goldfish, and a couple of famously known fish (such as the coelacanth). -
Jinbe's face is so fucked up looking some ppl can't tell whether he's shocked or scared when he makes a facial expression. lol
Oda should've had snot running out his nose.
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I'm kind of offended by this. What the hell does Shyari being female have to do with absolutely anything?
Being shark based doesn't mean shit either. Jinbe and Fukaboshi are also sharks but that doesn't mean they're evil. Mostly it's Oda not knowing enough about fish to go past sharks, food, goldfish, and a couple of famously known fish (such as the coelacanth).First because most of the females(at least until now) in OPverse aren't even mid tier and second because she is or at least just seems only a fortuneteller.
I know someone would say about jinbe/fukaboshi,so put aside fukaboshi that we dont know if he ever was "evil/bad" which i doubt,jinbe on the other hand as we saw during the FB was pretty offensive and had no hesitation to attack/kill humans
.Now this has changed but years ago he was nowhere near the guy we know now.
So until now we have arlong/jinbe/fukaboshi/madam shirley, arlong always was a heartless fishman,jinbe once was someone who wouldn't have problem hitting unconcious people and leaves us fukaboshi that i doubt he was ever a "bad person" even if it seems unlikely we don't know yet and shirley and based that 2 of the 4 were "bad guys" i don't see why not for her to be on the list.
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The conclusion of Oda's racism themed arc will be "Not all fishmen and mermaids are evil, just all the sharks".
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One of the fucking yonkous is a woman if you haven't noticed. There's been plenty of really strong women in OP, this isn't fucking Naruto where all women are medics and serve little to no purpose aside from drooling over the male lead characters. For fuck's sake Robin was an assassin. Don't give me this crap about women being weak in One Piece. Most men have been outright marine or pirate fodder if you were to count them, that doesn't mean that men are weaker characters.
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One of the fucking yonkous is a woman if you haven't noticed. There's been plenty of really strong women in OP, this isn't fucking Naruto where all women are medics and serve little to no purpose aside from drooling over the male lead characters. For fuck's sake Robin was an assassin. Don't give me this crap about women being weak in One Piece. Most men have been outright marine or pirate fodder if you were to count them, that doesn't mean that men are weaker characters.
Well i didn't think i had to write about bigmom and hancock,it is a given that those 2 are STRONG and probably top tier.But all the others until now are HARDLY even mid tier fighters.What naruto has to do with all this?I never even read a chapter of naruto or bleach, those are shit.Until now the mid tier women are kalifa robin hina and if you want nami alvida tashigi.Also about tsuru we dont know but she seems strong.So what we have around 10 women(i added in case i forgot some) while TOP tier are only 2.So yes women ARE pretty weak in OPverse
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Srsly dude,this is a manga who cares about food supplys and if no one can fish or travel etc etc cmon..Also maybe those SeaKings lets say are able to turn upsidedown islands how are they supposed to destroy COUNTRIES like arabasta alubarna or marijoa etc etc and probably countless other countries?
I read this and come to the conclusion you're just trolling or you're a complete idiot. Shutting down the world's trade, isolation of every island nation, and destroying of its coastal cities wouldn't cause worldwide havoc? How does being a manga mean mass starvation due to an embargo of every good you can possibly ship doesn't matter. Even nations that aren't that connected to water aren't immune to the effects an army of Sea Kings can cause. Few nations can survive being completely isolated from others, Alabasta being a desert nation isn't one of them, and Mariejoa can be breached by the canal leading to the New World.
How did you come to the conclusion there are only a few hundred sea kings? They're are likely millions of Seakings. Their breeding grounds is an entire strip of ocean that extends around the globe. Entering it for only a few minutes has us seeing over half a dozen appear beneath the SH. You really think those few were the only Sea Kings for miles? Common sense they were the few swimming around the surface, noticed the Merry disturbing the usually undisturbed water, and instinctively checked it out. Why do you keep talking about physically attacking islands and power levels? Its all pointless.
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Hardly mid-tier?
Neither of the StrawHat women are "mid tier," not even Nami. Kalifa could defeat any and probably all of the carpenters, which were shown to be much stronger than the average Grand Line pirate. Nami is stronger than Kalifa, and Robin is stronger than her. Tsuru also came off as pretty strong, considering she's a vice-admiral that's pretty given. Hina was able to easily capture Bon Clay and his entire crew, and Bon Clay is at Sanji's level of combat.
Don't give me this "women are weak" shit, you imbecile.
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Hardly mid-tier?
None of the StrawHat women are "mid tier," not even Nami. Kalifa could defeat any and probably all of the carpenters, which were shown to be much stronger than the average Grand Line pirate. Nami is stronger than Kalifa, and Robin is stronger than her. Tsuru also came off as pretty strong, considering she's a vice-admiral that's pretty given. Hina was able to easily capture Bon Clay and his entire crew, and Bon Clay is at Sanji's level of combat.
Don't give me this "women are weak" shit, you imbecile.
Ok it's funny really..
Shichibukai = 6 men , 1 woman
Yonko = 3 men(rip wb if not a new 2 now) , 1 woman
Admirals = 3 men
WB commanders = 15 men , 1 woman (please dont tell me about the nurses)
VA = 10?15?-20? men , 1 woman
cp9 = 6 men , 1 woman
Numerous pirates crews = some dozens/hundreads men , most times 0 womenHina was at ARABASTA sanji's level who was CLEARLY at best mid tier
Who said that because kalifa beat lulu and probably could beat tyleston & paulie makes her STRONG?Those guys were really nothing and who cares about average pirates in GL srsly.
Until now in OPverse only 2 woman are TOP tier,all the other are HARDLY mid tier and those women aren't even more than 10.
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Even if they are a minority among pirates that doesn't mean they can't be strong. We know they're strong and if a woman wanted to asassinate another character they are perfectly capable of doing so.
Hina was not Sanji's level. She was higher than he was if she was able to capture Bon Clay that soon and that fast.
Just because women are a minority, does not mean they are weak. Those two things are VERY different.
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Just because women are a minority, does not mean they are weak.
that is so true. there's always at least one women in every 'power level' in OPverse. they just lack in number.
women are also superior than men in terms of using their head in OPverse. at least at most cases.
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What about that ugly girl in BB's crew? I heard she's supposed to be one of the WORST criminals alive…
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Even if they are a minority among pirates that doesn't mean they can't be strong. We know they're strong and if a woman wanted to asassinate another character they are perfectly capable of doing so.
Hina was not Sanji's level. She was higher than he was if she was able to capture Bon Clay that soon and that fast.
Just because women are a minority, does not mean they are weak. Those two things are VERY different.
Well if you want put aside that women are minority,explain to me then why except from hancock and bigmom ALL the other women until now (kalifa,robin,hina,nami,tashigi,alvida,wb commander) never seemed like real threat.Get over with it.Like it or not even if they can beat some weakling pirates women are not portrayed REALLY STRONG in OPverse.Even if we consider them mid tier they aren't even close to the REAL power of some chars in OPverse.Also it is not the same that women can BE strong with women in OPverse ARE strong.What this has to do about?Sure some women are stronger than some men and can kill them,that doesn't automatically make them STRONG.By your logic many more men can assasinate women.This doesn't really matter.
It's fact until now the "strong" women in OPverse are around 10.Pretty small number if you ask me.Excuse me i completely forgot about her,but it hardly changes anything.3 Top tier womens doesn't make any REAL difference than 2
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None of the women have never been a threat? Hina sent the SHs running with their tails between their legs. Nami fried an entire building post timeskip. She was weak at first but after she had the Tempo she became very strong. Robin easily defeated the toughest warrior of an entire country. Kalifa was a very heavy threat, don't give me shit that she wasn't. Tsuru is a vice-admiral. Don't give me "they're weak" shit.
Just because they're a minority does not mean they are weak. That's like saying women are stupid because they're a minority among the scientific community. Or that african americans are violent because many of them end up in jail.
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Hardly mid-tier?
Neither of the StrawHat women are "mid tier," not even Nami. Kalifa could defeat any and probably all of the carpenters, which were shown to be much stronger than the average Grand Line pirate. Nami is stronger than Kalifa, and Robin is stronger than her. Tsuru also came off as pretty strong, considering she's a vice-admiral that's pretty given. Hina was able to easily capture Bon Clay and his entire crew, and Bon Clay is at Sanji's level of combat.
Don't give me this "women are weak" shit, you imbecile.
While I agree that "women are weak" argument is extremely lame. I just feel like Nami isn't a strength character. She uses tactics. Kalifa is stronger, but Nami uses what she has generally to her best advantage. Also Kalifa seemed to forget her CP9 training after she got her DF power. I feel she could have taken Nami, but she was vastly over confident. Gloating while in a bath…ugh...
@ Shadow: How come every thread I've seen you in you are rubbing people the wrong way? You can discuss topics and not be so abrasive about it if you want to make a point.
-You talk about Hina like we saw every single thing she has to offer.
-"Women are not strong" I'm sure the Kuja pirates would like a word with you.
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None of the women have never been a threat? Hina sent the SHs running with their tails between their legs. Nami fried an entire building post timeskip. She was weak at first but after she had the Tempo she became very strong. Robin easily defeated the toughest warrior of an entire country. Kalifa was a very heavy threat, don't give me shit that she wasn't. Tsuru is a vice-admiral. Don't give me "they're weak" shit.
Just because they're a minority does not mean they are weak.
Again it doesn't really matter if some women are strong.I never said ALL the women in OP are weak or anything like this,just that MOST of them are weak with the exception of some.Nami isn't tough,she just uses her clima tact not her PSYSICAL POWER unlike kalifa who is strong but nothing like the big shots.Pell was fodder and even usopp now could take him out cmon..I already said about tsuru that she is strong and i didn't count her cuz we don't know much about her but during the war he power seemed pretty good.
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Mostly it's Oda not knowing enough about fish to go past sharks, food, goldfish, and a couple of famously known fish (such as the coelacanth).
Congrats on being a pompous ass.
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Again it doesn't really matter if some women are strong.I never said ALL the women in OP are weak or anything like this,just that MOST of them are weak with the exception of some.Nami isn't tough,she just uses her clima tact not her PSYSICAL POWER
What does physical strength have to do with anything? It's clear in One Piece that physical strength doesn't mean shit. I thought that was clear by Zoro's flashback.
unlike kalifa who is strong but nothing like the big shots.
She was part of the Cipher Pol squad 9, which is the top cipher pol squad. She was a master of Rokushiki and ask Nami if she wasn't a fucking threat. Give me a fucking break. Kalifa was just as much of a threat as any other CP9 member.
Pell was fodder and even usopp now could take him out cmon..
Pell was not fodder.
Women are not weak in One Piece. They are a minority. All your arguments consist of them being a minority and stupid shit about them never being a threat.
Congrats on being a pompous ass.
Call me a pompuos ass but making every other fishman a shark is kind of getting annoying.
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Kalifa was just as much of a threat as any other CP9 member.
Except, you know.. ALL THE OTHER CP9 MEMBER.
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No Kalifa wasn't the same threat as the others.Having superhuman strenght it's something that can be achived,however kalifas douriki and ALL the other members douriki had pretty big difference,especially with the top3.Have you forget that sanji could EASILY beat her but he didn't cuz of his principls of never hiting women?
And yes Pell was a fodder.
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Except, you know.. ALL THE OTHER CP9 MEMBER.
[qimg]http://images.wikia.com/onepiece/images/d/d5/Douriki.jpg[/qimg]Now that you show that…I thought they registered how strong they were based on punching that one guy in the face...Did he punch himself in the face to get his own score?
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Call me a pompuos ass but making every other fishman a shark is kind of getting annoying.
You mean the prominent/strong ones?
Uh… maybe that's because sharks are strong?
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You two aren't getting to each other.
Women probably cover half the population of the world. Check.
There are far fewer strong women than strong men. Check.
Most women in One Piece world are weak. Check.
Some are exceptionally strong. Check.
The probability of women being weak is far bigger than men being weak. Check.
There are women among top-tier. Check.
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Breaking news: women can be stronger than men, but most of the time aren't. Welcome to shōnen, more at 11.
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Women. Sea Kings. What's next, gonna start blabbing about how giants and okama are weak?
Thread is no longer "Chapter 626 discussion" it's "insert race, gender, or species are weak sauce according to shadow"
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Call me a pompuos ass but making every other fishman a shark is kind of getting annoying.
Yet not one of those sharks has been a repeat species, and they cover less than half of the mer/fishpeople introduced so far.
Talking about usage is one thing, and it even has its reasons, but projecting that to be an assumption of Oda's knowledge (or lack of it in this case) is another matter entirely. It's a logical fallacy, and it makes you the idiot for being guilty of it.
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Women. Sea Kings. What's next, gonna start blabbing about how giants and okama are weak?
Thread is no longer "Chapter 626 discussion" it's "insert race, gender, or species are weak sauce according to shadow"
hahaha nice one really!!Well it was not my intention,but i just wrote a prediction about the murderer of otohime that contained shirley and all this happen.
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Even if they aren't repeat species they're still sharks. There are a lot of awesome and unique fish I'm sure Oda would include if he knew about them. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a lack of knowledge of fish, most people don't know as much about fish as I do. We have nine sharks but there's no tangs, triggerfish, damsels, wrasse, angelfish (both freshwater and saltwater), groupers, cichlids, barbs, tetras or livebearers.
Not to mention Oda made Chew a kissing gourami, even though his abilities are that of an archer fish.Kalifa may have been the weakest of the CP9 but she was never addressed as being particularly weak by any of the CP9 to the point that it was noticeable problem.
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Women have it better in One Piece then in other shonen manga, and Otohime's character is a great example of it. Physically weak, yet capable of doing great things through courage, determination and a little common sense. Even Hancock, one of the more sexist characters to date, never seemed that bad. More "silly" really.
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Ok it's funny really..
Shichibukai = 6 men , 1 woman
Yonko = 3 men(rip wb if not a new 2 now) , 1 woman
Admirals = 3 men
WB commanders = 15 men , 1 woman (please dont tell me about the nurses)
VA = 10?15?-20? men , 1 woman
cp9 = 6 men , 1 woman
Numerous pirates crews = some dozens/hundreads men , most times 0 womenHina was at ARABASTA sanji's level who was CLEARLY at best mid tier
Who said that because kalifa beat lulu and probably could beat tyleston & paulie makes her STRONG?Those guys were really nothing and who cares about average pirates in GL srsly.
Until now in OPverse only 2 woman are TOP tier,all the other are HARDLY mid tier and those women aren't even more than 10.
Now compare that number to the COUNTLESS strong men in OPverse and what you have?Women are not strongErrrr, you do know that all of the commanders are male, right?
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Errrr, you do know that all of the commanders are male, right?
Haruta might be female, it's hard to tell.
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So i think merpeople are weak anyone care to discuss??
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I just can't believe it! Oda's flashbacks are so bad. Always boring. Always.
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I just can't believe it! Oda's flashbacks are so bad. Always boring. Always.
Then Skip them!!
And I really think Merman are awesome!
I hope this flashback still contains some stuff about Hodi leaving the royal army. I hope another 2 chapters of flashback.
Also for some reason I keep thinking that Jinbei will save Zoro and beat the fuck out of Hodi.