Wait, Who the fuck is Ten Ten!!!!
Oh come on. You should know! She's a main character in the other version of Naruto that doesn't suck.
Wait, Who the fuck is Ten Ten!!!!
Oh come on. You should know! She's a main character in the other version of Naruto that doesn't suck.
how many bitches did this Six Path Sage guy have?
@dirt:
how many bitches did this Six Path Sage guy have?
six? Maybe he was OCD and had to have the same amount as the paths he created.
@outspec Good post,
This guys post also helps your point even through you already destroyed their whole arguement with your post a few pages ago.
"Oh, and on the subject of Sakura beating Ino's mind control, I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but Sakura has a special ability that doesn't get focused on very much. It may even be the primary reason for why she has natural talent for Genjutsu. Who knows, her whole inner Sakura deal may be more than just some joke, or attempt at comedy by Kishi, and could be a legit ability of Sakuras.
Inner Sakura is potentially a sign that Sakura is a bit special, and that it may be a special ability only she possesses, making her a potentially ideal user of Genjutsu, or just ideal in the area of defending against them. I'm not saying that Ino's jutsu is a Genjutsu, I'm not saying that at all, but I'm just using this opportunity to expand on the kind of potential I think Inner Sakura has for Sakura. Remember that a person who has mastered their bijuu can defeat Genjutsu because the bijuu inside them is their partner? I'm not saying inner Sakura is a bijuu. However, it may definitely be able to serve as Sakura's partner for breaking her out of Genjutsu, or even things like Ino's Shintenshin.
So, yea, Sakura really does possess a special ability that, thus far, only a person who has mastered their bijuu could possibly possess, and it's the ability to have two different psyches simultaneously. You want to bet anything that Kishi actually expands on this later, possibly during this very war?
Here is the picture. Ino said with certainty that Sakura had 2 psyches inside of her. Asuma thought that maybe it was because Ino was low on chakra, but then Ino gave the real reason for her technique's failure.
Sakura literally has two psyches.
Kakashi on the very next page would say that Ino's weak chakra was part of it, but he also said that once a victim has been possessed by that technique, it's almost impossible to drive the invader out, as clearly demonstrated by Kinkaku's inability to stop a now obviously stronger Ino from having her way with him.
Kakashi would then go on to point out that Ino's presence in Sakura led to the rousing of Sakura's fighting spirit, and that it was Naruto's razzing that awakened sakura's drive and egged her on to chase Ino out successfully. Still, what Ino said cannot be overlooked. She was forced to release that technique on Sakura because there were two psyches in there.
A lot of people don't really consider it a legitimate ability of Sakuras, but I guarantee you right now if we see another Alliance shinobi, or Edo Tensei ninja end up possessing two pscyhes simultanesouly, we'll immediately view it as a legitimate ability, and start to re-evaluate what we think of Sakura's "Inner Sakura"
Imagine if Sakura actually managed to learn how to use that properly. The strategic benefits that it could provide her would be immense. 2 minds combining to deal with a primary objective. In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Ino basically owning Kinkaku is a sign that we'll see Sakura shine soon, unbelievable that Kishi has actually gotten me excited about potential Sakura action :)"
In regards to the bros "I hear ya, and because I think Kishi doesn't intentionally want all this confusion, translations are the real culprits here, I think he intended for us to view this flashback http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-4 as the same exact day of the attempted coup by the KinGin brothers, same day that both the second hokage and second raikage were ambushed. Some might say that can't possibly be the same day because they are in some forest, and not at some alliance ceremony in the hidden cloud.Well, I ask everyone to consider this: How is it all that different from how Shikamaru, Naruto, Sakura and one of Kakashi's dogs ended up in some forest near Konoha, learning that 9 shinobi were trailing them on the same day of the attack on Konoha, and that one of them would need to be a decoy.http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/118/p-8http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/118/p-13http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/118/p-14 <– Naruto stepping up immediately to be the decoy, and face a guaranteed death.Notice how the Third Hokage also decides immediately that he'll be the decoy before everyone else, just like Naruto?http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-6Naruto had what it takes to give up his life for his comrades at such an early age, major compliments to Shikamaru as well for stepping up to handle the task."
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You know, I'm actually gonna agree with Juju on this one. Ino using her mind-control jutsu was a totally legitimate thing. It works on nearly everyone, but the only reason Sakura broke it was because she has literally two minds in there.
I will say that the execution came off as lame, could have been handled better, was anti-climatic as fuck, and this entire kinkaku bros. fight has been a waste of time and characters.
I will say that the execution came off as lame, could have been handled better, was anti-climatic as fuck, and this entire kinkaku bros. fight has been a waste of time and characters.
It seems the whole point was to introduce the treasure. I mean…they've only been around and defeated in what? 3 chapters? 2?
@HiroVoid:
It seems the whole point was to introduce the treasure. I mean…they've only been around and defeated in what? 3 chapters? 2?
no they were introduced so that when naruto gets the 9 tails taken we won't be calling bullshit when he can somehow still use his new super powered form, which by the way is the shittiest final form ever
usually an author makes the final form look sweet and super cool and lots of neat things to it that make it seem hard to draw. yet naruto looks like he is wearing footy pajamas and about as hard to draw as a stick figure.
They were indroduced to talk about the things they did in the past. The coup will be explained later and so is how the 2nd Hokage fought. Kin was done in by sheer numbers. He was taking out Darui whole squad until 3 other divisions and another general showed up. Darui would be dead if Kitsuchi didn't rock punch him. He would of taken out a whole division by himself. Darui also got his time to shine with his awesome jutsus and bassasery. Everything that Darui says is epic. He also rivals Itachi on his deep quotes.
They were indroduced to talk about the things they did in the past. The coup will be explained later and so is how the 2nd Hokage fought. Kin was done in by sheer numbers. He was taking out Darui whole squad until 3 other divisions and another general showed up. Darui would be dead if Kitsuchi didn't rock punch him. He would of taken out a whole division by himself. Darui also got his time to shine with his awesome jutsus and bassasery. Everything that Darui says is epic. He also rivals Itachi on his deep quotes.
You're justifying Kishi bringing in extra crap when he hasn't even fully fleshed out the characters that he already has. This whole bringing enemies back from the dead only to be defeated in anticlimactic ways, is a huge piece of turd that Kishi keeps dumping chapter after chapter :getlost:
Oh god, i just remembered that the Bijuus are still there…
I'm surprised some are still doubting, or are confused about what really transpired with the Second Hokage. I admit, I myself started to wonder about what happened as well with all the death/verge of death talk, but when you consider that we are now absolutely certain that this is the same Kinkaku that had a role in the Second Hokage's death, that's where it becomes most important to trust the flashback we were given, and keep in mind what truly happened.
You want to know what really happened? Kishimoto created and is still creating retcons for this Sage of the Six Paths bullshit to have relevance in the story. It's what most respected writers know and teach as being bad writing. And if it was Kinkaku as a Kumo-nin with many others, then why is it that they were mentioned to be outlaws just as well? Let's assume that they were just after the Second to kill him and gain "glory". It begs the question. Why was the Hokage that far out in enemy territory to begin with? It makes no sense. Let me pose you another question. Why didn't the Second reverse summon himself away to safety? Other people do it.
This chapter sucked ass.
I feel what's going to happen now. Naruto and Sasuke are going to fight, their both gonna die, and Sakura is gonna be put in the picture to decide who to bring back to life with that bullshit move that the old lady did to bring Gaara back to life, but is gonna be all like, "Should I bring Sasuke or Naruto back??" Q in tears of bullshit sad moment, Sakura loses her life bringing one of them back, the end….Agg:getlost: Or he Madara WINS the war and puts everything to an end...
No, the ending is going to have Jiraiya closing a book, and young Naruto, Minato and Kushina walks up to him and asks, "What are you writing, Uncle Jiraiya?" And Jiraiya will just say, "The Future."
Then "The End" will fall on top of them and crush them.
@Fire Fist:
No, the ending is going to have Jiraiya closing a book, and young Naruto, Minato and Kushina walks up to him and asks, "What are you writing, Uncle Jiraiya?" And Jiraiya will just say, "The Future."
Then "The End" will fall on top of them and crush them.
You know what…I'd be ok with that.
Looking at the art this chapter, we see see-through kunai, and a pencil drawn Chouji doing his cart wheel attack. So why does Kishimoto allow for this crap? In this interview, Kishimoto states that he has to draw, and because he has to draw, he doesn't sleep much. Must be why he doesn't give a shit anymore.
And here, he says some horseshit about the change in art in Part II makes it more realistic…
I'm in the process of making a full on comparison between part 1 art and part 2 art, just to prove how full of crap Kishi is.
Kishimoto: I think Americans know what's good.
Wrong, Kishi. Dead wrong.
@THE:
Kishimoto: I think Americans know what's good.
Wrong, Kishi. Dead wrong.
Looking at the majority of One piece fans in america compaired to Naruto fans in america..he may be right…sadly.
@THE:
Kishimoto: I think Americans know what's good.
Wrong, Kishi. Dead wrong.
Just look at the most popular mangas in the online readers, not a huge proof but still…
Is it me or the male cast are a lot more feminine than the "female" cast.
@fezzik I am not trying to justify anything. If Kishi want to indroduce new characters he could. The fight also showed the personality and fighting abilties of Darui. He been a great new character and has quickly becoming one of my favorite characters. I love how he taunted Kin at the start by saying sorry about sealing his brother. He quickly becoming a fan favorite too.
@mr.french this was just speculation. Kishi has yet to show the flashback yet. When he shows the flashback and it doesn't add up then you can make a point. Everyone is guessing on what happened. Raikage doesn't have a clue on what happened other then what people told him. Stories get changed and exagerated has time past. If the flashback doesn't add up when he shows it then i will agree with you, but know its just speculation.
@TLC yep just like your post
Nobodyman still doesn't respond because he got owned. I am still waiting.
@fezzik I am not trying to justify anything. If Kishi want to indroduce new characters he could. The fight also showed the personality and fighting abilties of Darui. He been a great new character and has quickly becoming one of my favorite characters. I love how he taunted Kin at the start by saying sorry about sealing his brother. He quickly becoming a fan favorite too.
@mr.french this was just speculation. Kishi has yet to show the flashback yet. When he shows the flashback and it doesn't add up then you can make a point. Everyone is guessing on what happened. Raikage doesn't have a clue on what happened other then what people told him. Stories get changed and exagerated has time past. If the flashback doesn't add up when he shows it then i will agree with you, but know its just speculation.
@TLC yep just like your post
Nobodyman still doesn't respond because he got owned. I am still waiting.
the bigger question is WHO CARES
why should we care how or why the seconde hokage died? why should we care about the guys that killed him? why do we care about Darui? Why introduce these 5 godly items?
We are fighting this HUGE war right now and unless those above questions have some huge significance to this war of madara's then they are pointless and not needed. waste of pages
the bigger question is WHO CARES
why should we care how or why the seconde hokage died? why should we care about the guys that killed him? why do we care about Darui? Why introduce these 5 godly items?
We are fighting this HUGE war right now and unless those above questions have some huge significance to this war of madara's then they are pointless and not needed. waste of pages
Too be fair, if kishi was a oda calibur story writer, we would care. The events that led up to this war should have already done just that, make us give a damn about the above. However kishi failed in that aspect and threw us into a war where we dont care about much of the cast present.
These questions should have significance if kishi was a better writer, unfortunately they dont. Kishi failed this war in the planning stages; he did not properly set up the embers for this war and as such, this war story seemed to be pulled out of his ass out of nowhere.
Aside from poor planning and retarded reincarnation, their is little kishi can do to salvage the war. The best thing he should have done is highlight the people that are actually most relevent and that is Naruto, Sasuke, Kakash, team 7 and 11 konoha ninja; not some random cloud ninja from other villages.
Too be fair, if kishi was a oda calibur story writer, we would care. The events that led up to this war should have already done just that, make us give a damn about the above. However kishi failed in that aspect and threw us into a war where we dont care about much of the cast present.
These questions should have significance if kishi was a better writer, unfortunately they dont. Kishi failed this war in the planning stages; he did not properly set up the embers for this war and as such, this war story seemed to be pulled out of his ass out of nowhere.
Aside from poor planning and retarded reincarnation, their is little kishi can do to salvage the war. The best thing he should have done is highlight the people that are actually most relevent and that is Naruto, Sasuke, Kakash, team 7 and 11 konoha ninja; not some random cloud ninja from other villages.
yea thats my problem
see the first hokage has importance, he fought madara. 4th hokage as well with his connection to madara and the 9 tails.
but what is 2nd hokage for? if these last 4 chapters didn't exist it would not change the story at all. there is no overal effect to this. we get introduced to two NEW guys who have a connection to a dead hokage who has no connection to current war.
naruto uses mythology all the time i mean for instance every sharingan technique is based off some japanesse gods and the tailed beast for some have been inspired by real mythical creatures…except the gorilla one that one was inspired by dragonball.
Key word was whimsical kid, pay attention. It's a silly power that would fit into early Dragonball or something, and is completely out of place in modern Naruto.
@Hinscher what do you mean who cares? This is history of the universe he created. He cares. Just like people wondered how Goku father died and how Freeza destroyed the world. Just like people want more information on Rogers pass. Seriously was that a real question?? Did you just really ask me why manga creaters create history? Alot of people freaking care. People still want to see the 1st Hokage vs Madara at Vote. Just like people want to see how shanks got the scar. Seriously was this a joke question? People want to see how Madara survived. Why the brothers started a coup that started a world war. I am sorry but you can't be serious.
In terms of Darui, we get to see why he is a general of the army and was handpicked by the Raikage. He wants to indroduced these five godly items. He was planning on indroducing the fan from long ago when he had Sasuke holding it and the sassnoo design on his hand on a coverpage.
What the hell do you mean
I still can't believe you just ask me why a storyteller cares about his history of his story.
I think this Darui picture sums it up best of what you just ask me
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@TLC yep just like your post
Please enlighten me to what was remotely entertaining about this chapter. The end of a terrible fight between a bunch of boring, unimportant characters, involving the stupidest powers imaginable rushed in the most boring, anticlimactic stupid way possible. Even if you liked all that word crap, what could possibly be so exciting about the lame-ass trio finishing off a purported high level opponent so quickly with such a childishly simple tactic? It's not even about liking blatantly bad plot twists, this is just plain boring. Please.
@TLC Darui is a general in the war and ino, choji, and Shikiamaru are apart ofthe rookie 9. How are they unimportant? The powers are n not stupid. I really don't care if you like shikiamaru, choji, and ino at all because thats just your opinion. I didn't know their was a time limit on how much chapters it should take to finish your opponents. Kin destroyed a whole division by himself http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/87520967/10 and was about to kill Darui if not for backup. Kin was constantly being attack one after another and shikiamaru used that time to bind him. How is 4 divisions 2 generals, Ino, choji, and Shikiamaru stopping someone so unbelievable? lol
In terms of Darui, we get to see why he is a general of the army and was handpicked by the Raikage. He wants to indroduced these five godly items. He was planning on indroducing the fan from long ago when he had Sasuke holding it and the sassnoo design on his hand on a coverpage.
I'm sorry, but I think you are presuming way too much. Too assume things as fact at this point? Especially when Kishi is proving he's rushing, and adding things to the manga he never, ever mentioned in the past. And it's quite easily done from Kishi's perspective by using retcons. Tomorrow, he'll link all red haired people to the Sage, and you'll swallow it. Maybe even Sakura will become apart of that "group" with her pink hair. It's crap like this that makes this story shitty.
@Mr. french i am not presuming anything.Everything i post is backed up with scans. Don't give me that BS when 80% of wats posted in here is crap. Kishi mentioned Kinaku like 50 chaps ago. They were called the golden horns.The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-4http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as 金角部隊 / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force". The Second Hokage went up against Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and they were both supported by 18 more shinobi. The Second Hokage likely killed them both in the process, in addition to the 18 shinobi that helped them, but he died in the process as well.
Sasuke holding the fan and has the sasnoo arrows design on his arm
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Check it out.
http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/479/p-8
Kishi references a great deal of his old stuff, far more than most realize.
@TLC Darui is a general in the war and ino, choji, and Shikiamaru are apart ofthe rookie 9. How are they unimportant?
Darui is some minor side-character we've barely seen anything about. What's more he hasn't been built up as anything but some inferior Shikamaru clone. I wasn't referring to the trio as much as to the two brothers (the supposedly super strong guys that were introduced and taken out in two chapters never to be seen again) but given the total amount of contribution they've given to part two, yeah unimportant.
The powers are n not stupid.
Stupid gimmicky word powers that barely even have a place in One Piece and would be more at home in a series like Jojo and definitely have no place in Naruto.
I really don't care if you like shikiamaru, choji, and ino at all because thats just your opinion.
It's also irrelevant so why bring up my two-word diatribes unless you do care?
I didn't know their was a time limit on how much chapters it should take to finish your opponents.
It's not about length, it's about how you handle the pages you have (though some length kinda helps when dealing with meta-plot resolving factors but that's another argument). A mess of a rushed fight with a dumb power and terrible use of that aforementioned stupid power is not a good way. DURR HE HAS A NEW FAVORITE WORD
Kin destroyed a whole division by himself http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/87520967/10 and was about to kill Darui if not for backup.
Who gives a flying fuck about statistics. Anyone whose sole purpose is to be taken out two chapters later is not important to the story.
Kin was constantly being attack one after another and shikiamaru used that time to bind him. How is 4 divisions 2 generals, Ino, choji, and Shikiamaru stopping someone so unbelievable? lol
Who cares about believable? This is your stupidest arguing tactic. Something boring and terrible happens and you go "But it could conceivably happen!" No shit Sherlock. That's not the point. The point is that introducing a last minute deus ex machina to quickly dispatch of a purportedly extremely powerful opponent using a done a million times before combo is boring as hell and the pinnacle of lazy writing. Just what is good about it?
@Hinscher what do you mean who cares? This is history of the universe he created.
But a writer doesn't bring stuff up just because. Everything needs a purpose. Just being part of the universe we didn't know about isn't a purpose.
In fact part of the whole point of writing is essentially servicing purpose, thematic and main plot wise. You'll probably say "hey lots of stories bring up random side stories and histories" and I'll tell you to go back and check that the way those were brought up had purpose.
He cares. Just like people wondered how Goku father died and how Freeza destroyed the world.
That was directly related to the main plot. Both of them.
Finding out how those happened were added imeptuous to the emotional conflict of Goku fighting Freeza. And the larger arc starting in the Saiyen story and Namek one.
Also notice who these characters are. The main character and the biggest villain in the entire series.
Just like people want more information on Rogers pass.
Roger is arguably one of the most central characters in all One Piece. There is no comparison between him and the goons in these recent chapters and the second Hokage.
Did you just really ask me why manga creaters create history?
I am, why do they?
Alot of people freaking care. People still want to see the 1st Hokage vs Madara at Vote.
Who cares. It doens't make it good storytelling to just randomly show history without it being purposefully written into the plot.
It wouldn't even be very hard mind you, it's just that Kishi doesn't care or can't do it right.
Just like people want to see how shanks got the scar.
Shanks is one of the most important characters in One Piece.
You really can't pick correct correlations can you.
Seriously was this a joke question? People want to see how Madara survived. Why the brothers started a coup that started a world war. I am sorry but you can't be serious.
These brothers are an entirely unimportant duo who had no reason to exist until Kishi pulled them out of his ass two seconds ago.
In terms of Darui, we get to see why he is a general of the army and was handpicked by the Raikage. He wants to indroduced these five godly items. He was planning on indroducing the fan from long ago when he had Sasuke holding it and the sassnoo design on his hand on a coverpage.
No, that would be a retcon where suddenly this fan is part of some crazy crap. You're just very gullible.
Also no, there is no importance to Darui whatsoever. He is in every sense a third tier character of importance. IF that. You could remove him from the story and NOTHING would change.
Well you've seen it everyone. Team 10 can beat anyone. I wonder wgy they haven't send them after Madara already :happy:
@Mr. french i am not presuming anything.Everything i post is backed up with scans. Don't give me that BS when 80% of wats posted in here is crap. Kishi mentioned Kinaku like 50 chaps ago. They were called the golden horns.The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-4http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as 金角部隊 / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force". The Second Hokage went up against Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and they were both supported by 18 more shinobi. The Second Hokage likely killed them both in the process, in addition to the 18 shinobi that helped them, but he died in the process as well.
Sasuke holding the fan and has the sasnoo arrows design on his arm
Check it out.
http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/479/p-8
Kishi references a great deal of his old stuff, far more than most realize.
These are all retcons. All of them.
They are all lazy writing. All of them.
Here's the easiest way to confirm this.
Forget everything in the most recent chapters, now go back to the things he's adding on to now.
Oh look, there was never any question about them. Nothing about them was mysterious or unanswered, nothing was left for people to wonder about.
And NOTHING was even there regarding that stupid picture. It's just a random pin up art where Kishi drew random designer crap items.
He only now, to bring up some new thing to keep his waning fandom interested looked back and grabbed something to build on so that to gullible fools it would look less lazy and pulled out of his ass.
This is a cheat.
And you're falling for it H A R D.
And oh yeah, have you gone back to the old Naruto threads yet to see me and my old homies trashing things long before you ever joined the forum?
You really don't have to spend the time on Juju, Zeph. You really don't.
It's pointless.
Well you've seen it everyone. Team 10 can beat anyone. I wonder wgy they haven't send them after Madara already :happy:
Oh I'm sure if they used the Mafuba on Piccollo, he'd manage to barely escape and just trap Kami instead.
@RobbyBevard:
You really don't have to spend the time on Juju, Zeph. You really don't.
It's pointless.
I'd rather enjoy this fight, better than anything in recent naruto could offer us.
If Darui was introduced earlier in the series, say, beginning of Part 2, shown on several more accounts, being developed as a character the reader, say, me, should care for, and finally had a big awarding moment in the final war, I think, I could have found him okay.
Oh well. At least he had it better than Shikamaru, Chouji and Ino.
Orange bordering on red stuff mark.
@RobbyBevard:
Oh I'm sure if they used the Mafuba on Piccollo, he'd manage to barely escape and just trap Kami instead.
Oh right, Madara probablly has his own antibottle…
Darui is a Bleach characters.
@TLC I was wondering when you would return lol.
Darui acts more like Kakashi then Shikiamari. He has been built up has more then a shikiamaru clone(which he is noting alike). He was given a status in the war similar to Kakashi, The Raikage right hand man, KKG, large chakra pool.
sigh The two brothers were fighting for 3 chaps and their past will be shown later. So they will appear again. A fight doesn't need to last more then 3 chaps.
People turning into girls, swords that have mouths, frogs that talk, waling on water, etc….... LOL It has a place alright The variation of the gm was used in yu yu hakinsho
You liking them or not is irrelevant.
Like i said a fight doesn't need to be more then Chaps. Look at FT fights.
Thier past is important and he took out most of a division. Last minute duex WTF They sent the reinforcement like 5 chaps ago.
Instead of doing a Raikage A vs Third Raikage or Tsuchikage vs Mu (Second Tsuchikage), Kishimoto decides to bring two ass pulls of brothers to waste time with Darui and Team 10 in a boring battle…Always doing shit...
EDIT: Third Raikage, not second.
@JERK:
Darui is a Bleach characters.
Hey Jerk did you see those links I posted? I guess it tells you something.
@JERK:
Darui is a Bleach characters.
you made me realize the true meaning behind name bleach. it's all white and boring.
anyhow Naruto's still sucking as usual.
@jerdisease He isn't bringing it up just because.
How is Darui fighting someone who has betrayed his village he cares about any different from Goku situation.
I don't care if Roger is the biggest character in OP. I was pointing out examples. The two brothers are at the heart of starting conflicts with Kumo/Leaf.
He did write it in to the plot. The world wars and why they have been started. Remove Brook from OP and noting would change. Remove marco and noting would change. Actually it would change because the whole 1st division would be dead and heading towards Gaara division.
The fan isn't part of some crazy crap. Kishi was referening it just like he reference Naruto with frogs way before.
@TLC I was wondering when you would return lol.
Darui acts more like Kakashi then Shikiamari.
So you're quibbling over which character he's a cheap carbon copy of now?
He has been built up has more then a shikiamaru clone(which he is noting alike). He was given a status in the war similar to Kakashi, The Raikage right hand man, KKG, large chakra pool.
Who cares about all these trivial character features. What has he as a character done to contribute to the story? And beating a couple of equally unimportant characters doesn't count.
sigh The two brothers were fighting for 3 chaps and their past will be shown later. So they will appear again.
You're kidding right? We're never gonna see pointless brothers again. You have too much faith in that hack of a writer.
A fight doesn't need to last more then 3 chaps.
Didn't I just say that?
People turning into girls, swords that have mouths, frogs that talk, waling on water, etc….... LOL It has a place alright
Those things all have a place in ninja folklore. You can ridicule them all you want, they fit in the world and the mythos and can be handled with a decent amount of seriousness without detracting from the world logic. Whereas word games is just some dumb shit that makes no sense which Kishimoto ripped off Togashi.
The variation of the gm was used in yu yu hakinsho
Yeah that's obviously where Kishimoto plagiarized it from, low on ideas and inspiration as he is.
You liking them or not is irrelevant.
Then stop bringing my opinion on their characters up.
Like i said a fight doesn't need to be more then Chaps.
Did I not JUST say this? Are you even reading my posts at all?
Look at FT fights.
Of ALL the series you could have picked to make this point, you chose shitty Fairy Tail? You couldn't pick Negima where S-class characters are taken out in one chapter fights which are still awesome? There has to be a limit to terrible taste.
Thier past is important
To what? Like Jerk Disease said,take them out and they wouldn't change jack shit. When an author reveals history it has to have a purpose to the story.
and he took out most of a division.
Taking out a bunch of fodder doesn't make him important.
Last minute duex WTF They sent the reinforcement like 5 chaps ago.
No, the magical gourd thing and even the Ino-Chouji-Shika trio was thrown in at the last minute with barely any foreshadowing.
@jerdisease He isn't bringing it up just because.
Yeah he is.
How is Darui fighting someone who has betrayed his village he cares about any different from Goku situation.
Are you seriously too stupid to know what the difference is between some absolute nobody character like Darui and fucking GOKU.
I don't care if Roger is the biggest character in OP. I was pointing out examples. The two brothers are at the heart of starting conflicts with Kumo/Leaf.
As of a few chapters ago, and the story was fine and plausible without their forced introduction.
Roger is the very first character we see in One Piece and at the heart of the entire story.
He did write it in to the plot. The world wars and why they have been started. Remove Brook from OP and noting would change.
Wrong, Brooke is a member of the main cast. Part of the entire mythos is now his to partake in.
Remove marco and noting would change.
Marco is a side character but even he has a purpose, in fact he has a huge purpose now that Ace and Whitebeard are dead. He's likely the leader of what remains of Whitebeard's crew and will no doubt play a big role later on in the New World. The fact that he's alive shows he will return.
Actually it would change because the whole 1st division would be dead and heading towards Gaara division.
Good, then the actual characters of relevance could have a fight, like Gaara.
Or Kishi could have placed virtually any of his many neglected side characters in this place rather than Darui.
The fan isn't part of some crazy crap. Kishi was referening it just like he reference Naruto with frogs way before.
He drew a random fan, and hundreds upon hundreds of chapters later decided to write in some random crap about it he didn't think of until a few weeks ago. And all so that he didn't come off as an asspuller.
And you're so gullible and stupid you fell for it.
Look at you ahahahaha, I could probably very easily scam you of money lol.
Just read the chapter. What a disapointing ending! I don't understand how Ino was able to perform her attack on such an opponent.
@TLC You are the one who brought it up and i corrected you. I said they were similar not a clone. Luffy and Goku are similar, but he not a clone.
He just stopped the broters from taking the sea port. What do you mean it doesn't count? Yes it does. Faith has noting to do with it. Kishi always hints at things and show them later in the story. For example Kakashi lateness and having a sharingan. He does it all the time.
yu yu hakinshu didn't make it up. lol Its myths and stoires from ages ago. ur god Oda does the samething. Journey of the west its called.
Take them out and Kumo is at peace with the leaf. Neji dad is still alive, The 2nd hokage doesn't die young, WW2 didn't start etc… You make no freaking sense.
I just reference FT because of short fights.
Who did WB take out? Wait did failbeard even kill anyone important?
You must be a tool. Let me own you real quick.
The 3rd Raikage used the gourd and was in Kumo position here from 494 http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/494/03/
Ino, choji, and shikiamaru wasn't throwed in. He said it 5 chaps ago WTF how many times do i have to post this http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/525/14/
@Jerkdiasese WTH are you talking about? I wasn't comparing Darui and the beast that is Goku. I was comparing the situation because you brought up the emotions of the battle not me.
LOL Whats your point of it being two chapters ago. The bros were hinted ated up with scans. Kishi mentioned Kinaku like 50 chaps ago. They were called the golden horns.The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/narut…to/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as 金角部隊 / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force". The Second Hokage went up against Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and they were both supported by 18 more shinobi. The Second Hokage likely killed them both in the process, in addition to the 18 shinobi that helped them, but he died in the process as well.
He draw a random Snake on Sasuke, He draw frogs on Naruto. yep noting like that came through. He had the sasnoo arrow on Sasuke arm, rides a hawk etc…
@TLC You are the one who brought it up and i corrected you. I said they were similar not a clone. Luffy and Goku are similar, but he not a clone.
Actually he is sans any importance to the plot.
He just stopped the broters from taking the sea port. What do you mean it doesn't count?
Anything low-tier side-characters do is not important.
Yes it does. Faith has noting to do with it. Kishi always hints at things and show them later in the story. For example Kakashi lateness and having a sharingan. He does it all the time.
Notice your examples stem from part one when Kishimoto still gave a damn. Foreshadowing is a basic story-telling technique that's standard to a writer. And it's something Kishimoto has long since dropped the ball on (massive revival anyone?). Also you're extremely naive if you think these brothers were anything other than a bunch of nobody characters Kishimoto threw in at the last moment or that we're ever gonna see them again.
yu yu hakinshu didn't make it up. lol Its myths and stoires from ages ago. ur god Oda does the samething. Journey of the west its called.
Where did I say Yu Yu made it up? I said Kishimoto ripped off Yu Yu and that word games have nothing to do with ninja folklore or the internal logic of the world Kishimoto created.
Take them out and Kumo is at peace with the leaf. Neji dad is still alive, The 2nd hokage doesn't die young, WW2 didn't start etc… You make no freaking sense.
Forced history introduced at the last minute in order to give these characters a semblance of importance. Story would have been just fine without them. They change absolutely nothing.
I just reference FT because of short fights.
You overlooked the major factor that you're referring to another series that sucks ass which kinda detracts from your point.
Who did WB take out? Wait did failbeard even kill anyone important?
Hahahaha. Are you seriously trying to argue that Whitebeard was unimportant? Whitebeard, whose very death changed the entire era? Do you seriously think character importance can only be judged by the number of mooks a character can take out? How childish are you?
You must be a tool. Let me own you real quick.
The 3rd Raikage used the gourd and was in Kumo position here from 494 http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/494/03/
Ino, choji, and shikiamaru wasn't throwed in. He said it 5 chaps ago WTF how many times do i have to post this http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/525/14/
We got a reference to a magic pot and that Ino, Chouji and Shikamaru were gonna do something. Great foreshadowing. How about that the pot was conveniently in their hands? Or the secretary that could immediately transport the pot to their location. Or that it only works when the beast answers and that Ino, Chouji and Shikamaru happened to be around. Or that their low level strategy worked so easily? None of this reeks like an easy quick fix to you? And how in any way is it entertaining?