i love how observant juju is and how he can give solid evidence when arguing. i have to get in this
Naruto Thread IV
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@Jerkdiasese WTH are you talking about? I wasn't comparing Darui and the beast that is Goku. I was comparing the situation because you brought up the emotions of the battle not me.
The importance of the characters was also part of the argument.
sigh please try to keep up.:wassat:
LOL Whats your point of it being two chapters ago. The bros were hinted ated up with scans.
Nope.
Kishi mentioned Kinaku like 50 chaps ago. They were called the golden horns.
No they weren't. That was a retcon as well. No mention of anything but Cloud bounty hunters are in that chapter you keep pointing out. Kishi only decided that was Kinkaku now.
The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/narut…to/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as 金角部隊 / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force".
Show me a real translation then if the one everywhere is right.
He draw a random Snake on Sasuke, He draw frogs on Naruto. yep noting like that came through. He had the sasnoo arrow on Sasuke arm, rides a hawk etc…
And this point is completely indefensible. This is the probably the dumbest thing anyone has ever defended. You're gullible beyond belief. This is cult like gullibility lol.
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going off topic if time matters in naruto then kakashi vs the SNS and kankuro division vs granny chiyo and hanzo and gaara vs daddy. is happening while kishi worries us with this boring stuff its is as if he purposly letting this happen….prepare for the biggest middle finger kishi ever gave us as half if not the whole fight goes....OFF...Screen
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@Roxas thanks for the compliment. This make you the 5th person who has done so here.lol I probably can do the samething with O. I pay attention to the smallest details because these authors are throwing all sorts of things you could of easily miss. This is why i love watching movies with good twists and tensions. Most movied i figure out through. I have only been fooled by Momento, Ophan, and the 6th sense. The 6th sense had me had me like WTF.
@TLC I never said Goku or Luffy doesn't have importants to the plot. Darui saved the beach area and didn't allow them to sandwitch Gaara group.
oh so you want me to forshadow something from part 2? Madara body not being whole and made of White zetsu slime. LOL I just put Kakashi because it was a simple forshadowing. Like i said before Kishi shows hints or glimpse of flashbacks until later. He does it all the time. The bros were reference beforeed They were called the golden horns.The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/narut…to/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as ???? / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force". The Second Hokage went up against Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and they were both supported by 18 more shinobi. The Second Hokage likely killed them both in the process, in addition to the 18 shinobi that helped them, but he died in the process as well.
FT is bad because of alot of reasons and short fights isn't one of them. This is more of a your taste my taste thing.
I never said that WB wasn't important. I was clearly mocking you. LOL because you have no real comeback .
WTF Why does character powers need to be revealed? LOL not everything has to be forshadowed. hey look Luffy has G3(Once again mocking you) and Sanji has hot feet. Hey look its a guy who can eat pills wait thqt wasn't forshadowed. Every single character powers won't be forshadowed. WTH are you even talking about I posted the scan with Ino,choji,Shikia coming znd also Shikia dad making the plan. Why the hell would they forshadow the action that will take place? LOL your getting desperate now cause i Raped you with those scans. haaaaaaa TLC still getting owned to this day.
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You know I just thought of something. How come the whole squad of ninja that were with Darui didn't do anything to help him?
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@jerkdiaese I never said Darui is has important to the story. WTH are you on?? I was pointing out something. Like i said Darui is a general, saved the beach, right hand to Raikage etc…. You said he had no purpose. Which is the argument.
Yes they were hinted at. Tye group is named Kinaku for god sakes are you being serious here?
LMAO now i know your a tool. Thats the real translation. HAAAAAAA You guys can't be serious this is your answer. I even posted it in Japanese for you. LOL I can't take this anymore. I blocking you. I haven't blocked anyone ever but this is borderline dumb.
How am i gullible when i just proved you wrong with scans of the coverpages. I don't ever block someone but this is crazy. Even TLC had the guts to say Kishi forshadowed something.
@Roxas he isn't skipping Hanzo fight.
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@TLC I never said Goku or Luffy doesn't have importants to the plot.
What the hell is this gibberish? Keep up will you? I'm saying that Darui is a useless character without the slightest trait of an original personality.
Darui saved the beach area and didn't allow them to sandwitch Gaara group.
Replace Darui with any number of underused side-characters and it wouldn't have made a difference.
oh so you want me to forshadow something from part 2? Madara body not being whole and made of White zetsu slime.
Is this the best you can do? Where was it stated that Madara's body is made of White Zetsu? And how the hell does this in any way make up for the countless deus ex machinas Kishimoto's employed in part two which clearly shows he's dropped the ball in this department most recently demonstrated this chapter?
LOL I just put Kakashi because it was a simple forshadowing. Like i said before Kishi shows hints or glimpse of flashbacks until later. He does it all the time.
Could you quit implying like this is a big deal? It's the basic bread and butter of story-telling and he sucks at it.
The bros were reference beforeed They were called the golden horns.
No they weren't. Retcon. But Jerk already covered this.
The Second Hokage didn't go off to face a single individual. He went off to face 20, and they were called the Kinkaku Force. This translation is off on the name of the 20 tracking them, but it's one and the same day that the Second Hokage went away to his death. http://www.mangarush.com/manga/narut…to/481/p-5They were not really called Kumogakure Master Bounty Hunters; they were referred to as ???? / Kinkaku Butai with a supposed literal name of the "Golden Horn Force". The Second Hokage went up against Kinkaku and Ginkaku, and they were both supported by 18 more shinobi. The Second Hokage likely killed them both in the process, in addition to the 18 shinobi that helped them, but he died in the process as well.
Jerk already covered this. Quit making up fanfiction.
FT is bad because of alot of reasons and short fights isn't one of them. This is more of a your taste my taste thing.
No actually its terrible short fights are one of its worst aspects and it really shoots down your point when you're trying to claim that good series don't have to have long fights.
I never said that WB wasn't important. I was clearly mocking you. LOL because you have no real comeback .
No you were trying to imply that importance=number of mooks a character can take down using Whitebeard of all people and now you're quickly trying to distance yourself from your retarded point.
WTF Why does character powers need to be revealed?
Which character? The secretary? Because yeah, when you have a non-foreshadowed power THAT convenient that's a deus ex.
LOL not everything has to be forshadowed.
Yeah it does unless its an intentional out of nowhere plot twist that totally changes the story to a new direction and even those are hard to do. Things like strategies and tools to beat a powerful foe certainly need to be.
hey look Luffy has G3(Once again mocking you) and Sanji has hot feet.
When did I ever say these weren't out of nowhere power-ups? (Though at least Luffy's G3 was kinda foreshadowed with the gate busting scene).
Hey look its a guy who can eat pills wait thqt wasn't forshadowed.
Are you talking about Chouji where we got an entire chapter dedicated to their use and even a flash back about the pills?
Every single character powers won't be forshadowed.
It's about looking at the context of the story you hack. A super convenient power to accomplish a goal and not start a random fight needs to be foreshadowed to make it not look like a convenient ass-pull.
WTH are you even talking about I posted the scan with Ino,choji,Shikia coming znd also Shikia dad making the plan. Why the hell would they forshadow the action that will take place?
We got a panel that they were gonna do something the most related to the second Tsuchikage. No mention of the loser brothers anywhere or any plan related to them. Also no mention to the OTHER points I raised Juju?
LOL your getting desperate now cause i Raped you with those scans. haaaaaaa TLC still getting owned to this day.
Your debating skills have gotten even worse since the old days and your English skills are especially atrocious right now. I can barely understand what you're saying. Step up your game or step down Juju.
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@jerkdiaese I never said Darui is has important to the story.
Oh cool, so you concede that's he's a pointless distraction.:happy:
WTH are you on?? I was pointing out something. Like i said Darui is a general, saved the beach, right hand to Raikage etc…. You said he had no purpose. Which is the argument.
He's a random grunt in all senses and purposes. Those senses and purposes being the plot and main characters.
He's virtually interchangable with any number of other characters.
Largely due to his emotional net worth being a negative number.
The only way one could actually be involved with him is to basically be a whore for anything this series does.Yes they were hinted at. Tye group is named Kinaku for god sakes are you being serious here?
Prove it.
LMAO now i know your a tool. Thats the real translation. HAAAAAAA You guys can't be serious this is your answer. I even posted it in Japanese for you. LOL I can't take this anymore. I blocking you. I haven't blocked anyone ever but this is borderline dumb.
Yeah, I'm really dumb to take you completely on your word for no reason.
Also thanks for conceding literally the entire argument by running away and pulling out my mic there Rush Limbaugh.
How am i gullible when i just proved you wrong with scans of the coverpages.
lol, you just absolutely cannot grasp how authors can grab inncuous things from the past and suddenly assign importance to them.
You're so fucking gullible. Such a cheap fucking date. Your the dream of every shitty author. You'll eat any crap they give you. Any crap.
I don't ever block someone but this is crazy. Even TLC had the guts to say Kishi forshadowed something.
I think you're actually blocking m because your mind can't handle thinking that Kishi is bullshitting you.
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@Thousand:
Your debating skills have gotten even worse since the old days and your English skills are especially atrocious right now. I can barely understand what you're saying. Step up your game or step down Juju.
Juju, after you recovering from your frequent asskickings by Jerk and TLC, can I bring to your attention a button. It's above the smiles, of a icon with a ABC over a checkmark. It's the spell check button. Needs a download, but well worth it.
Please use it, because as amusing as it is for you to desperately ballsuck Kishi and fail at it, I'd like to be able to read at least half of it.
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LMAO now i know your a tool. Thats the real translation. HAAAAAAA You guys can't be serious this is your answer. I even posted it in Japanese for you. LOL I can't take this anymore. I blocking you. I haven't blocked anyone ever but this is borderline dumb.
Haha! This is awesome! Zephos did it!!! He did what no other has ever managed to do. He actually broke Juju!!! I never thought I'd see the day :,)
How am i gullible when i just proved you wrong with scans of the coverpages. I don't ever block someone but this is crazy. Even TLC had the guts to say Kishi forshadowed something.
I said he was good at foreshadowing in part one and sucks at it now. Taking random things in the past and attributing new meaning to them IS a cheap trick Kishimoto likes to use.
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I barely even had to try too, what a weakling.
Ya'll need to train more if this little twerp is giving you trouble.
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Some of the stuff said in this thread… professional stand up comedy isn't this good. Fuckin lol.
Now i have a question for Juju, where are you from and why can't you speak proper english?
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Take away Dariu, and take away the brothers, basically ignore the last 4 chapters and the story can progress perfectly smooth and the same as it dose now.
they served no point to the overall story. we used an unimportant chartacter to beat two made up characters. the end. could have been omitted easily
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Juju is funny and fun to debate with, but he isn't funny enough. We need another Phenom to really heat things up in the Naruto thread. This was easy bait for Jerk disease or many other posters it wasn't a challenge. If it was phenom he would just go with his retarded" all three are same " mantra.
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@S.C Amigo hmm asskicking? You must be need glasses. I blocked you jerk so their no point of you responding anymore. Keep telling me to prove something i already proved
@TLC huh? Luffy personality is orginal? Every personality trait has been taking by someone thoughout history. Can you elaborate on his lack of personality?
You make no sense. It would make a difference because they would of gotten raped by Kin/Gin who atleast low Kage level.
Its the first thing that popped in my head. It wasn't stated but Kishi has made it pretty obvious by now. He even gets a new arm from a Zetsu plant. Look in the the background. http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/486/05/ I mean the guy references it to kindom come. White zetsu http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/487/01/ They keep referencing it.
Having short fights has noting do with anything. No it doesn't shoot down my point. Your really desperate. Lee and Gaara fight was 3 chapters also.(Oh my Lee vs Gaara was horrible) Stop pretending you have a problem with a 3 chapter fight when you said you didn't care before.
Whats a big deal?
Making up fanfiction?? What part of it is fanfiction? They were called the Kinaku forced the same name has Kinaku. LOLThe same name of the guy from the myth Journey of the west. Are you two slow are something?
You don't need to forshadow everybodies techniques. So what if it was useful? You have the 4 countries combined they will have useful ninjas. G3 wasn't forshadowed niether was Hodi pills.
Raikage has a useful asstant by his side. I don't see how this ruins anything. Just like Croc conveniently stop using his DF powers.
They mentioned the bros in the scan. WTG are you talking about? What other points?
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@TLC Haaa He didn't break me. He kept on saying prove it and i already did. His arguments were "No" then "prove it" "Nope" samething over and over he didn't even address my post. I showed him the coverpages and he says prove it. The complete dumbness of his post led me to this.
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To Juju
The scans that you post, say "Bountyhunters". I haven't checked all of them, but over half lead me to the same translation that somemanga used, "Cloud Bountyhunters".
When a plot device is set up it's long before a situation would call exactly for it.
Let's take star wars, haven't luke beeing training the force during all of the first movie (don't nitpick) and the fact that he was able to hit rats since he was a kid on a ship, him blowing up the death star in the end by using those skills would have been an asspull, even if he just said before shooting "thank the force that I was training off camera, and I always could kill the rats on my planet!"
The tailed beast rat traps, they were introduced since the racoon in Gaara, ok, but we didn't know how the beast gets trapped in those, or why the containers weren't better than a live user if all the host were supposed to go crazy and stuff, that wasn't tradition but an emergency safety or a war crime (like it was stated originaly in the series)
The Jar wasn't an asspull, it's trigger condition (that a raging beast answers to it's name), the way that was deployed (secretary teletransporter) were. Especialy when there are non-asspull ways to do those, a long ritual and summoning, the ways that were already set up on the plot!
Also, Madara's zetsu arm, we are One Piece fans, not Naruto fans, we can answer that there were phoneglyp-looking things in impel down, or that the marines in this week's cover are the same that were on shell town 610 chapters ago, but we won't read naruto with the same zeal and care, for SIX HUNDRED BILLIONS (thats 12 zeroes, plus 2) of reasons already stated in this, and the other 10 threads. So, good job pointing it up, why that was relevant?
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Everyone declare that I defeated Juju in a post like this. Not a quote, just post it.
"ZEPHOS BEAT JUJU"
So he'll keep seeing it even though I'm blocked and get really mad lol.
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Could you do TLS too?
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Bad chapter, also ZEPHOS AND TLS (for the second time) BEAT JUJU
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Also, he's not saying that Gara vs Lee was a bad fight, he's trying to be ironic, but as everything that he says is devoid of sense and good grammar it could be lost in the reading.
The diference between a battle that was set up as possible to happen from the start of that arc, with characters that we already skimmed their motivations and abilities during the written test and the forest test, and this battle of characters that we can only deduce their skills out of their tittles, some obscure legends and the fact that one of them is black (all black people in naruto use lighting), one side fighting because they are slave zombies and the other is protecting some kid from a madman. It's different.
BTW: TLC Cornered Juju, and then Zephos just nuked him.
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despite it's a stupid dues ex machina, I thought the fact that raikages Secretary can transport things at the speed of light was quite hilarious, the perfect ability for a secretary and of course it's raikages secretary
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You don't need to forshadow everybodies techniques. So what if it was useful? You have the 4 countries combined they will have useful ninjas. G3 wasn't forshadowed niether was Hodi pills.
Sorry to step in, but G3 (I suppose we are talking about Gear Third here) was foreshadow not one, but twice in the manga. After Luffy first use Gear Second and against that big door in EL.
About the pills, well Oda show them as a new method of fighting, and also as a drug that clearly corrupted the mind of Hodi and the new fishman pirates, before the main characters even encounter them. So is basically setting the characteristics of the new main antagonists.
If Oda didn't show the pills, and then in the fight against Luffy, Hodi used them, I wouldnt have a problem either, but then your point could make a little more sense, not that I understand your critic against those pills.
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despite it's a stupid dues ex machina, I thought the fact that raikages Secretary can transport things at the speed of light was quite hilarious, the perfect ability for a secretary and of course it's raikages secretary
Not as good as the woman of mass destruction!
Madara? Send him 600 BILLIONS of explosives again, at random times at the speed of light, let's see if he can keep up with that.
But no.. she's a woman. She can only transport jars and sandwich ingredients.
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You don't need to forshadow everybodies techniques. So what if it was useful? You have the 4 countries combined they will have useful ninjas. G3 wasn't forshadowed niether was Hodi pills.
You don't seem to get the point of everybody shouting "asspull" at this, so let me explain what "foreshadowing" actually means.
See, those two characters, Kinkaku and Ginkaku, were basically never mentioned before (I can't speak Japanese and don't know if they WERE mentioned before in the chapter you mentioned and that reference was lost due to a translation error or whatever, but that's not the point here, so no need to argue). That wouldn't be so bad if they did not have the powers they have.
Kinkaku and Ginkaku use two very powerful and plot-relevant powers: 9-tails chakra and 4/5 tools of the sage of the six paths. Yet the circumstances of there being two very powerful and dangerous ninjas using such techniques were never mentioned before! The 9-tailed beast is a major plot point in Naruto, yet no one ever bothers to mention those two brothers as having his chakra? The sage is supposed to be a legend, a myth, only, but there are actually weapons attributed to him in existance? Why did no one, especially Akatsuki, not bother to aquire those weapons, why were they never mentioned before in all those retellings of the sage legend?
The difference to Hodi is that he has powers that are basically non-relevant to the plot itself. It does not change the history of Arabasta or Water 7 if Hodi uses those pills, it is just a "random" power on a similar level like, say, Mihawk using a sword. His powers could be anything else and it would not affect the plot, the "One Piece Myth Arc", as a whole. The use of medicine itself to alter powers of characters WAS, by the way, already etablished, most prominently by Chopper and his Rumble Balls, so even that is completely fine with the whole OP universe and the "rules" etablished by Oda over the past few years.
Luffy's power-up was, kind of, made up on the spot. You have to consider, though, that 1) the need of a power-up was indeed foreshadowed by him losing in that arc before 2) the power is logically explained and basically just another use of his general abilities (blowing up his rubber bones is no asspull at all) and 3) the power now is a well-etablished move of Luffy and was not just a one-time thing. Similar cases with Sanji and Zoro, even though it is more asspully there.
Now compare to Kinkaku and Ginkaku: they use powers that alter the "Naruto Myth" arc itself by using powers of TWO important characters of the story that were well-etablished before and had a myth concerning them. None of the 9-tails tellings or sage myths ever mentioned the two brothers or 5 weapons. Why?
Because Kishi made those powers up on the spot. That he uses basically "foreshadowed" characters for it is just pure coincidence. He also could have used Hanzo or whatever he's called. It would make no difference at all since it was never mentioned or foreshadowed before. Hell, it would probably have made MORE sense for HIM to have those powers since he is etablished as being super-powerful (and no, the brothers were not etablished as such since 20:1 should mean certain death even for a hokage).
In short: he gave plot-changing powers to characters that were relevant for about 4-5 chapters and fought an unimportant character. That is the point, no one here would complain if those two had, say, lava powers and were legendary because they would be able to combine their elements or something like that. Same goes for teleport girl, by the way, who basically acts as a Deus Ex Machina in combination with the pot. Never mentioned before, never hinted at before, contradicts etablished plot points (Minato and Madara's abilities, …).
So, am I the only one who is pissed because Kishi did not use the black lightning power in the battle? Like, he gives him those unique powers, even adds "they were invented by the raikage" and now he does not even use them? Black Panther vs 6-tailed beast would have been quite cool, to be honest.
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@S.C Amigo hmm asskicking? You must be need glasses. I blocked you jerk so their no point of you responding anymore. Keep telling me to prove something i already proved
Oh man, I guess I'm going to have borrow Sasuke's razors to cut my throat to deal with the sheer sorrow of being blocked by Juju.
Oh, and not only did Zephos & TLC beat Juju, he reenacted the curb stomp scene from American History X on him.
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@Maxterdexter seriously getting crazy . The translation is Kinaku force. Naruto fans were even talking about them before they got Edoed. Look http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=689037 How in the world would that post exist in December when Kinaku/Gin wasn't the Kinaku force? We don't have time machines here. Japanese language is hard to translate and could mean multiple things. Don't blame the artist for failure translators. The reason i am so defensive about this is because i was discussing Kinaku force since freaking May of last year and now your telling me i imagined a name that showed up like 7 months later. I am pretty sure i don't have magic powers.
I can see your point about the about the secretary through. I glad we agree on the jar. I just don't feel everyone power needs to be revealed. She was the only one behind Raikage 3 chaps ago. I see your point through.
I am a OP fan too and i understand your point of not knowing has much details has me, but you should be able to understand my position then. What if i come in OP thread posting inaccurate stuff? You guys would correct me right away. I see inaccurate stuff posted here all the time. I wish i could rep you. Good post.
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Read the chapter, didn't mind that the Kinkaku villains were defeated by Ino, Shika, and Choji. I did mind how god damn boring it was. I've watched Sunday Night Heat matches that were more exciting than that!
Also Zephos and TLS layeth the smack down on juju's candy ass!
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@Max at what point did i get cornered by TLC? TLC got cornered by me when i posted the scans of shikiamaru dad sending backup and the scan of the jar. He had no comeback at all. He was going on and about how shikiamaru and his group showed up and i owned him. Please point out where i was cornered because i want to addreds it.
@Ben i ment gears it self. it was a asspull. So was sanji asspull move.
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"ZEPHOS AND TLS BEAT JUJU"
I'd probably be more entertained if trying to read Juju's posts didn't give me headaches lately.
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@Maxterdexter seriously getting crazy . The translation is Kinaku force. Naruto fans were even talking about them before they got Edoed. Look http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=689037 How in the world would that post exist in December when Kinaku/Gin wasn't the Kinaku force? We don't have time machines here. Japanese language is hard to translate and could mean multiple things. Don't blame the artist for failure translators. The reason i am so defensive about this is because i was discussing Kinaku force since freaking May of last year and now your telling me i imagined a name that showed up like 7 months later. I am pretty sure i don't have magic powers.
Translation errors, Jimbe being angry at Luffy for beating arlong, practicaly any character's name, "Former Shikibukai Gekko Moria" that one being an Oda Mistake.
Ok I went to THAT thread, and what I could gather is that they thought that the kinkaku force was a group of 20 elite ninjas, not 2 pseudo-hosts and 18 mid level fooders, something that the force at hand should been able to handle. A namedrop and then something completely different is still an asspull.
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Doesn't matter if Darui possess great abilities or if he possess the Raikage Seal of Best Subordinate, the guy was shown recently, Kishimoto didn't developed him, just drew him and put as an general, only that. The Kinkaku Brothers are another asspull, in the start, every cloud ninja considered them as great warriors, then now Kishi changed this to show they are assholes no one cares about, but know about them…Kishimoto just gave up and started making asspulls and incorrect retcons.
Oh, yeah: "ZEPHOS AND TLS BEAT JUJU, FLAWLESS VICTORY''
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Also, just when kakashi was finaly getting ready to show something, we… CUT TO SOMEONE ELSE!
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@f-trash finally someone gets it. I thought nobody would get it was a translation error that got fixed later. Which is why we had people talking about the Kinaku force from may. Thank you i thought i was in the twightlight zone for a second there. I Rep you for not being a clown.
The weapons were not relevant until now. He did showed the jar before with the 3rd Raikage. Look how shanks explained BB doings to WB. He didn't even going to detail of how BB scared such a powerful man. Shanks just wanted to get across that he was trouble. Oda will reveal shanks full past at a later date. If you read journey of the West you would know this. He refered to the bros in chapter 481 Kinaku force Kinaku=Golden horn Kinaku was the 9 tails beast son in journey of the west http://lparchive.org/Saiyuki-Journey-West/Update%2020/ He leaves clues everywhere. Japanese people probably made the connection this out before us because they were fimilar with the story and meaning of kinaku.
Gears wasn't forshadowed at all don't try to bail out Oda out. We seen everything Luffy was doing after he got defeated. Doesn't matter if it was used again. It was a asspull and even OP fans say so. Sanji was too, but Zoro was decent. He always training and Oda had a demon theme for him.
The Sage was a myth just like UFOs. Kakashi doesn't believe it because he has no proof like UFO or he never seen the weapons. Why would Kakashi say he believes a myth when he clearly doesn't?
Hanzo didn't have no weapons, he was known for his summoning in the flashback.
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@f-trash finally someone gets it. I thought nobody would get it was a translation error that got fixed later. Which is why we had people talking about the Kinaku force from may. Thank you i thought i was in the twightlight zone for a second there. I Rep you for not being a clown.
The weapons were not relevant until now. He did showed the jar before with the 3rd Raikage. Look how shanks explained BB doings to WB. He didn't even going to detail of how BB scared such a powerful man. Shanks just wanted to get across that he was trouble. Oda will reveal shanks full past at a later date. If you read journey of the West you would know this. He refered to the bros in chapter 481 Kinaku force Kinaku=Golden horn Kinaku was the 9 tails beast son in journey of the west http://lparchive.org/Saiyuki-Journey-West/Update%2020/ He leaves clues everywhere. Japanese people probably made the connection this out before us because they were fimilar with the story and meaning of kinaku.
Gears wasn't forshadowed at all don't try to bail out Oda out. We seen everything Luffy was doing after he got defeated. Doesn't matter if it was used again. It was a asspull and even OP fans say so. Sanji was too, but Zoro was decent. He always training and Oda had a demon theme for him.
The Sage was a myth just like UFOs. Kakashi doesn't believe it because he has no proof like UFO or he never seen the weapons. Why would Kakashi say he believes a myth when he clearly doesn't?
Hanzo didn't have no weapons, he was known for his summoning in the flashback.
Gears weren't foreshadowed majorly, however it was foreshadowed enough after Luffy was beaten by Aokiji, in that he needed to step it up. That's what helped with such a shock it was, that Oda never did something like that. You can't compare that with something like the weapons coming out of nowhere
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Though I like Juju, I'm rather flabbergasted Robby hasn't made him walk over the plank yet. I mean it's been this long, and yet it appears Robby has high tolerance for his antics, or at least got tired of banning him so much. But Juju clearly is oversaturating the thread with many arguments defending this one twist. Juju is fun, but he needs a break an hiatus.
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It's "on topic", Juju's weakening grip on the thread was what drove us to madness.
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@G.A.G He wasn't just drawn when the war started sighh Durai over 50 chaps ago http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/454/10-11/
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Gears wasn't forshadowed at all don't try to bail out Oda out. We seen everything Luffy was doing after he got defeated. Doesn't matter if it was used again. It was a asspull and even OP fans say so. Sanji was too, but Zoro was decent. He always training and Oda had a demon theme for him.
Who said that Oda needed to be bailed out?
Luffy said that Second Gear was inspired by observing the the superhuman ability's of CP9. And it isn't that much of a stretch to say that Luffy could blow his limbs up like a baloon, he's made of rubber for christs sake. -
Juju is just a computer pattern. For as long as there have been Naruto Threads there have been petty idiots defending the series who spoke in poor english.
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@Max you say Madness?
lol@Bill why would he ban me for posting about Naruto in a naruto thread?
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Though I like Juju, I'm rather flabbergasted Robby hasn't made him walk over the plank yet. I mean it's been this long, and yet it appears Robby has high tolerance for his antics, or at least got tired of banning him so much. But Juju clearly is oversaturating the thread with many arguments defending this one twist. Juju is fun, but he needs a break an hiatus.
Well here's the thing, Juju is our personal clown.
He's been banned before for simplying being a tool who doesn't listen to arguments, doesn't learn, and is willing to defend even the most inane plot developments.
We keep him around only because he amuses us. We don't have the slighest trouble in controlling him, we let him do his thing just so we have a reason to discuss things in this thread.
What he fails to realize is that very fact that he is expendable. We keep him only as long as he is amusing. When he steps out of line, he doesn't realize how insignificant he is to us. He can be banned and not missed in the long run.
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I thought Juju was banned for having a second account.
I mean, he is (and always has, really) been talking about/defending Naruto, as he says. Is that really ban-worthy?
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@RPG If you show me one arguement i didn't listen too. I will leave this place forever. Show me the argument i ran away from? Show me where i didn't respond. Go ahead here your chance to get rid of me.
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I have come across many -tards over the years. You name it, inuyasha-tard, Bleach-tards, Narutards, evengliontards, gundamtards ect… And out of them all, the most protective of them all is the narutards. I have spoken to many bleachtards and most will fully agree that kubo is trollin the plot. However say the same thing about naruto to a narutard and they will immediately defend their series to no end. In their eye, Kishi an do no wrong and Naruto series is solid which is farthest from the truth
This is ironic because naruto really isnt all that much better than bleach if at all. It appears that many naruto fans are too lulled into this ninja stuff that they cannot see the forest for the tree or grim reality of plot quality of naruto. It is sad that very few naruto fans criticize Naruto for what it is. Its because of this that kishi is comfortable with creating a half assed story. Not only does kishi not care, he doesnt even have an incentive to create a quality plot; how could he when many naruto fans wont complain if kishi makes all the mistakes in the world
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Juju is the first person to take me down in an argument not because he's smarter, but because he made me realize that I just didn't give a shit.
To reiterate, he is like Brainy Smurf.
Juju: "Remember everyone, Papa Kishi says–"
Gets his ass tossed all the way to the other side of the forum
Juju: Wha...? @_@ -
@RPG If you show me one arguement i didn't listen too. I will leave this place forever. Show me the argument i ran away from? Show me where i didn't respond. Go ahead here your chance to get rid of me.
See? It's dumb shit like this.
I never said you ran away from an argument in my post. And are you seriously suggesting that I point out any time you've not listened to an argument? Really? That's like nearly any post you've made here. I only lurk this thread on occassion for some lulz and make an occassional post here and there. The fact that any given page your opinion on any in Naruto is exactly the same as it was before is proof enough that you really don't listen to anything that's said to you.
Oh sure, you attempt to debate whatever is said to you, but you ultimately learn nothing from it. THAT is proof you don't friggin listen.
And I don't particularly care if you leave or not anyways. That's the thing, I, as well as others in this thread, am entirely indifferent to you. You provide us with amusement for being the type of fan that will eat up anything dumb story developments given to you. You, Juju, are the thread clown.
That's all.
You are otherwise insignificant. This thread can function well with or without you. Don't think for a second you actually are some sort of white knight rightfully defending Naruto from a bunch of OPtards. You only are allowed here by Robby just because you amuse us. The second you stop being amusing, you are gone.
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@RPG If you show me one arguement i didn't listen too. I will leave this place forever. Show me the argument i ran away from? Show me where i didn't respond. Go ahead here your chance to get rid of me.
Oh well I guess you never…
Oh wait, you can't read this because you blocked me thus running away from my arguments you didn't listen to.
Someone quote me for this bitch.
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@JERK:
Oh well I guess you never…
Oh wait, you can't read this because you blocked me thus running away from my arguments you didn't listen to.
Someone quote me for this bitch.
Always glad to help.
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If the 8 tail could be unseald and then put into Bee than I don't see why kinkaku could not be unseald in the future and if they manage to get the other 2 shinobi that got suck in out then that mean ginkaku too can get out..well see