Yeah, let's hope for the best. Gotta say, I stopped expecting great things from Toei, that helps me enjoy the show more.
It's confirmed to be Inoue, unless Newtype magazine made a mistake, which I doubt it.
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The footage from the preview reminds me of Inoue's earlier episodes, which had a lot less…shine and gloss to them. More comparable to 325 than 377.
But of course, those were only fifteen seconds of key animation, so it's possible they're just holding out on us.
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The footage from the preview reminds me of Inoue's earlier episodes, which had a lot less…shine and gloss to them. More comparable to 325 than 377.
But of course, those were only fifteen seconds of key animation, so it's possible they're just holding out on us.
The Key Animation in the preview looks very static at some points, IMO. Although the first scene where WB jumps over Akainu looks good.
I don't know if they are holding out, cause the 15 seconds had most of the key shots of the main scene in the chapter. There is really nothing else in that chapter that requires great animation besides the main fight.
I guess all the budget or the main key animators were moved to 485.
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The Key Animation in the preview looks very static at some points, IMO. Although the first scene where WB jumps over Akainu looks good.
I don't know if they are holding out, cause the 15 seconds had most of the key shots of the main scene in the chapter. There is really nothing else in that chapter that requires great animation besides the main fight.
I guess all the budget or the main key animators were moved to 485.
Yes, I am little disappointed for not speical animation for Whitebeard's attack, and what the hell the ground still not broken
like the manga why they don't do this?
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Don't worry, guys. When K-F subs the episode, they will edit it so that Akainu does take half of WB's face.
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The ED of episode 485 good?
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One Piece has not used EDs for years…what are you talking about?
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Episode director sure they using!! what are you talking about?
What that?
Director Storyboard (+ their last episodes) Animation Director483話「答えを探して 火拳エース戦場に死す」
Hiroaki MIYAMOTO (473) Hiroaki MIYAMOTO (473) Kazuya HISADA484話「海軍本部崩壊！白ひげ言葉なき怒り！」
Fumi KOMAKI (474) Fumi KOMAKI (474) Eisaku INOUE485話「ケジメをつける 白ひげVS黒ひげ海賊団」
Katsumi TOKORO (475) Katsumi TOKORO (475) Kenji YOKOYAMA486話「ショーの開幕 明かされた黒ひげの企み」
Naoyuki ITO (477) Naoyuki ITO (477) Katsumi ISHIZUKA -
Sorry, I thought you were actually talking about EDs as in "Endings", which OP stopped using long ago.
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It's ok, I still afraid of what will happen at episode 485.
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It's funny, I've disliked his style way before I even paid much attention to OP animation and knew who he was. I never liked the way he drew the Straw Hats, Zoro in particular.
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Well, 459 was really well done. And it's was Yokoyama's work…So, I have a little hope left
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lol most of the One Piece Animation Directors worked on 483
Kazuya Hisada
Shigefumi Shingaki
Atsuko Kawamura
Masayuki Takagi
Eisaku Inoue
Takeo IdeTrying to figure out who did the after attack on Akainu scene at the beginnig, and Jimbey's scene. That was very impressive.
Can you tell what AD do what? I don't recognize most AD's style…
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As XMURAD said earlier, Yokoyama did the bit with Garp and Sengoku (the line shading easily gives him away). There were some closeups of Akainu in the very beginning that looked kind of Inoue-ish to me, and I'm pretty sure Hisada did the ending sequence with Ace dying.
I'm curious as to who did Jimbei blocking the lava and Akainu's T-1000 impression myself.
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Yeah, what crossword said. Also…
Inoue did the beginning for sure.
I think Takagi did the part where Ace face is shown falling in midair + plus the reaction shots of him falling until WB starts crying.
Shingaki probably did the first flashback of Ace.
Ide probably did the second flashback with Ace and Luffy.
Atsuko Kawamura probably did the first part with Ace and Luffy talking until the end of part 1.
Jimbey blocking lava looks like Yumi Hori to me, the same animator who did the Crocodile scene in 469.
Now, there is one more animator Rie Aoki, I'm not sure what he did. But I think he did the scene of everyone blowing up Akainu. The style is very similar to the beginning of 473.
Anna Yamaguchi, a shitty animation director for Shippuuden whom she was responsible for the infamous episode of the pain arc (163) worked on 483. She did a very small scene, but I really don't know which one.
Hisada did most of the key animation, Ace thanking everyone is probably one of his scenes. Also the scene if Akainu T-1000 is probably him.
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Isn't it 167, the Naruto Shippuden fail?
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No, he really is talking about 163. I just checked it on crunchyroll, and while the art's fine, the action is really poorly directed. Like Naruto one-shotting Sock Pain being represented by the Pain charging forward followed by a hard cut to a still of after Naruto struck him (instead of, you know, actually showing him doing it), or another Pain body getting hit in the side of the face despite Naruto's fist clearly missing him.
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Isn't it 167, the Naruto Shippuden fail?
lol wut? that episode had some sexy, movie quality animation. The only thing that was a little bad was the art.
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Animation's bad if it distorts characters completely beyond recognition, but let's not get into that again…
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lol wut? that episode had some sexy, movie quality animation. The only thing that was a little bad was the art.
I like the "little"
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Art was great besides MY PAIN IS GREATER THAN YOURS part.
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Someone can tell who work on episode 0, animation, art, and direct.
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Shingaki was the overall animation director, with Shimanuki, Ide, and Kawamura riding shotgun as assistant animation directors. I remember MURAD mentioning that there was an effects-related guy (like lighting and stuff, I presume), but I don't remember who that was.
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But why the art was done so good?
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But why the art was done so good?
More budget I presume…
It had movie treatment, cause a lot of AD's worked at the same time also... -
OVAs in general have higher budgets than normal weekly TV episodes.
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I swear on the Name of my mom who taught me "how to not tell lies" that when i first saw the 167 NS episode, i Thought it was a fan made episode…
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me to^^, I have really important question!!
After the timeskip will be new series no?!? if it will be new series Toei will change and buy
new animators? because Naruto shippuden was improved from Naruto!!, the same in Dragon ball, and Z.
you think Toei will change after the timeskip? at least they will change key animators, what you think? -
me to^^, I have really important question!!
After the timeskip will be new series no?!? if it will be new series Toei will change and buy
new animators? because Naruto shippuden was improved from Naruto!!, the same in Dragon ball, and Z.
you think Toei will change after the timeskip? at least they will change key animators, what you think?No, I don't think so
If Toei were to make a change, it will be minimum. And considering that OP actually is raising its ratings and audience comparing it few years ago, the possibilities of an internal lobby, will reduce even more.And Naruto (to my personal opinion) will not improve with NS. (al least in the first arcs), so isn't a good example I think.
And the animators, usually change and rotate constantly in a long running series, thus the overall level of each arc change too…
I'm more worried by "censure" or "pacing" stuffs, than animation or ADs... actually.
I'm feel Sunday 9:30 am, isn't a good time, to broadcast OP (in Japan), cause I think is not consistent with the actual OP profile. -
^^But the art and the animation are bad and if they don't improve One Piece
after the timeskip all will be ruined, they will have new attacks, new view, and the art
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me to^^, I have really important question!!
Questions that no one can answer.
After the timeskip will be new series no?!?
No one can tell the future.
if it will be new series Toei will change and buy
new animators?No. Animators keep changing every few months.
because Naruto shippuden was improved from Naruto!!, the same in Dragon ball, and Z.
No. What Shuppuuden undergone is similar to what One Piece undergone around 207. And that was moving to digital, but I'm not sure my self, hopefully someone else can clarify it for you if they are interested.
you think Toei will change after the timeskip? at least they will change key animators, what you think?
No one knows.
Hopefully this will leave your case to rest, just accept what you see now. And be PATIENT!
^^But the art and the animation are bad and if they don't improve One Piece
after the timeskip all will be ruined, they will have new attacks, new view, and the art
need to be improved a lot.Jeez, relax dude…You will know next year. Toei is not gonna change anything because the Strawhats are stronger now. facepalm
Also one more thing, art and animation is not bad. It have it's ups and downs, just you need to lower your standards, this is a long running series with a limited budget.
@Crossword:Shingaki was the overall animation director, with Shimanuki, Ide, and Kawamura riding shotgun as assistant animation directors. I remember MURAD mentioning that there was an effects-related guy (like lighting and stuff, I presume), but I don't remember who that was.
The effects guy was Takashi Hashimoto, very big and famous animator. He managed to make the feel of episode 0 different from a normal episode.
Plus, lot's of great animators worked on it including Tate and Kuroyanagi.
BTW, looking at the trend. Ishigami might do
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Sry Murad, I just afraid One Piece will be ruined like the war.
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What really ruins One Piece at the moment is the pacing. Not the animation. So you should hope for a long filler before the
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Murad, now I understand what you mean.
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More like elfman12 ruined this thread
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Aside from new eyecatches an a new introduction, I can't really imagine much changing in the future either. We'll certainly have new animators and animation directors here and there as the years go on, but the overall direction of the show will probably stay the same. If there is going to be any rebranding, we probably won't find out until late spring/summer.
The pacing will probably be okay for the most part, or at least it will for me, as long as Oda doesn't have too many more arcs that are weeks upon weeks upon weeks of non-stop action.
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The pacing will probably be okay for the most part, or at least it will for me, as long as Oda doesn't have too many more arcs that are weeks upon weeks upon weeks of non-stop action.
Yeah, same here. Only action chapters suffer from the pacing. I think the last 20 chapters or so from the current manga chapter are rich in content so they won't have a problem with the pacing, IMO.
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Yeah, same here. Only action chapters suffer from the pacing. I think the last 20 chapters or so from the current manga chapter are rich in content so they won't have a problem with the pacing, IMO.
Yeah. PLUS the next arc (even if there are some between arc filler)
Will be a flashback arc, and all the historicals flashback arc were really good…
Actually OP decline begins in I.D arc, and the action hasn't stopped so far.
Its time to relax the things...Well... at least I expect a great final M.F meters...
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I rather have a long break than long-ass fillers…
but even if Toei decides on filler, what will the content be? I don't think they can fill the timeskip since they don't know the actual content and making a non-story related filler is probably going to ruin the ratings.... The best fill can only be Cover pages side story that Toei have neglected thus far... -
But if they do a lot fillers they can use 2 chaptars no?
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Aside from new eyecatches an a new introduction, I can't really imagine much changing in the future either. We'll certainly have new animators and animation directors here and there as the years go on, but the overall direction of the show will probably stay the same. If there is going to be any rebranding, we probably won't find out until late spring/summer.
The pacing will probably be okay for the most part, or at least it will for me, as long as Oda doesn't have too many more arcs that are weeks upon weeks upon weeks of non-stop action.
We all know that when we hit the timeskip they will HAVE TO change the eyecatches because of the updated designs. My current theory is Toei will most likely change the name of the series. If you ask "why" just look at most other anime series. They love name changes to emphasize a change in direction. Toei has already done this for Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Digimon, Doremi, and Pretty Cure. Naruto has done this. Pokemon, Ranma, Slayers, Gundam, Macross, City Hunter, etc etc etc. I mean there is a good change they won't change the name but c'mon the series is about to hit the big 500! I can't imagine them not trying to do something different and at the rate their going this is probably going to happen sometime in the Spring/Summer at the latest in the fall.
Yeah, same here. Only action chapters suffer from the pacing. I think the last 20 chapters or so from the current manga chapter are rich in content so they won't have a problem with the pacing, IMO.
One Piece will still have pacing issues because it caught up with the manga. So far it's the only current running anime series that hasn't had to take filler sabbaticals (when I series is in a filler arc for a good season or so), the longest stretch of filler we've have was the one between Alabasta and Skypiea and that was a LONG time ago and only took up one DVD set.
I rather have a long break than long-ass fillers…
but even if Toei decides on filler, what will the content be? I don't think they can fill the timeskip since they don't know the actual content and making a non-story related filler is probably going to ruin the ratings.... The best fill can only be Cover pages side story that Toei have neglected thus far...I think the cover pages would lose their significance for Toei to animate them now. We should be glad we got the ones we did (Buggy, Coby, and the Strawhats). I don't think One Piece is going the Naruto route either. If anything maybe they'll give us more alternative universes like Chopperman and Boss Luffy since with those they can use as much of the cast as they want to and create stories and situations that won't have any impact on the main story.
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We all know that when we hit the timeskip they will HAVE TO change the eyecatches because of the updated designs. My current theory is Toei will most likely change the name of the series. If you ask "why" just look at most other anime series. They love name changes to emphasize a change in direction. Toei has already done this for Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Digimon, Doremi, and Pretty Cure. Naruto has done this. Pokemon, Ranma, Slayers, Gundam, Macross, City Hunter, etc etc etc. I mean there is a good change they won't change the name but c'mon the series is about to hit the big 500! I can't imagine them not trying to do something different and at the rate their going this is probably going to happen sometime in the Spring/Summer at the latest in the fall.
I think o-chan's absolutly right. Toei will change the Title of the Show with the Timeskip.
The New Name would probably be One Piece: The New World or One Piece: New World, who knows…Also from a financial Point of view it's better to rename Shows. Many TV Stations aren't interessted in Shows which lasted so long, if it hasn't been licensend in it's early days (f.e. when it "only" had 100 Episode)
Also many DVD Companys are afraid of licensing One Piece because it's "The neverending Anime" and the cost would be to high. If Toei changes the Title with the Timeskip, it isn't an endless Anime any more (even if the Adventures continue under a new Name!) but it's a "complete" Series, with a follow up Show just like DB got DBZ or Sailor Moon got Sailor Moon R, S, SuperS and Sailor Stars...
But that too offtopic ;)
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Anyone who thinks One Piece is "the neverending anime" definitely hasn't watched a lot of anime.
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One Piece aint got anything on Sazae-San in terms of longevity.
6,350 episodes and counting.
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Anyone who thinks One Piece is "the neverending anime" definitely hasn't watched a lot of anime.
Surely you're not suggesting people in this thread don't know what they're talking about?
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A new title sounds interesting.
About what they'll do for the timeskip, I hope they animate chapter cover stories…or do Mugiwara Theaters and stuff...Make up funny crap.
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@Sniper:
A new title sounds interesting.
About what they'll do for the timeskip, I hope they animate chapter cover stories…or do Mugiwara Theaters and stuff...Make up funny crap.
This x1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
I've been DYING to see all of the cover stories animated. Too bad TOEI doesn't care about what its fans think.
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Anyone who says stuff like that is pretty much kidding themselves at this point.
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Yes. We totally need the Django and Fullbody coverstory, now that they've been part of the marines for 400 episodes.
And we also need to see and meet Caimie for the first time, since she'll be coming up… two years ago.
The time for those has past. The missed easy opportunities for no apparent reason. And they're fast missing the window to do CP9's.
Wapol and Enel's cover stories are the only ones that have any reasonable non-timeline to adhere to, and we haven't gotten them yet, and aren't likely to. Especially with the time skip imminent.
The most blatant possible examples of Oda throwing them a bone and being ignored.
