Ace's death hasn't exactly happened yet, so why the complaints on how they handled this part? All of that is next episode. He only received the the blow from Akainu this episode and that was animated just fine.
482: ''The Power that Burns Even Fire - Akainu's Fierce Assault''
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What do you expect?
People taking themselves too serious.
Fixed that for you… Have you ever heard/read Star Wars hardcore fans complaining about Jar Jar? Or Dorama fans whining about companies sending C&D?
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As terrible as the Buggy filler is…Take a look at it from an anime-only viewer's perspective:
Alright.
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AB ABlao AbaloAO,AklAolAolAbALo ME DUMB ME NEED MOVE PICTURE AND HEAR HEAR adjbymwxgh ifkhyjgn k FZZZZZZZZZZZZ
... .. . AHHHH ah ah ah ah huff huff huff.... whoa, jesus christ!!! I'm never doing that again! Were you trying to kill me???
Ace getting MAGMA FISTED is supposed to be a twist. What better way to pull that off than to start the episode with stuff as cheery as Buggy using reverse psychology on a snail?
That's the stupidest logic I've ever heard. Never write a story ever.
For all of us manga-first people, just watch the last half of the episode if it really offends you that much. Or skip past the Buggy.
If you have to skip past something it sucks. Now shut up with this dumb crap.
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EDIT: I wish people would stop using that Naruto episode as an example. That episode (and I think one more) are the only episodes that look horrible. Shippuden is usually really good at keeping the animation consistent. And when there's an important moment, they usually do good.
THAT one episode and perhaps the Guy vs. Clone Guy episode are the only ones that really look bad.
So does Naruto have a higher budget or do the people working on OnePiece just suck? OP is of a higher resolution, maybe that got too expensive
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So does Naruto have a higher budget or do the people working on OnePiece just suck? OP is of a higher resolution, maybe that got too expensive [qimg]http://www.mania.com/forums/images/smilies/SmileyDunno.gif[/qimg]
Studio Pierrot has much easier work to do… with all those similar looking characters, poses and finger shapes and whatever plain hairstyle there is - there are only different eyes they have to look for... Oda's character designs are much more demanding. :whistling:
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You are over reacting now imo.
I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.
Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.
So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.
But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.
Now, look at Marineford:
-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.
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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.
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start watching at 16:00 to see anything interesting..
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I read manga… so I don't really care xD
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Studio Pierrot has much easier work to do… with all those similar looking characters, poses and finger shapes and whatever plain hairstyle there is - there are only different eyes they have to look for... Oda's character designs are much more demanding. :whistling:
You've forgot to mention the empty backgrounds. Blue sky and white clouds must be really hard for the anime staff to do.
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You are over reacting now imo.
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[hide]@TheMidnightRift:I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.
Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.
So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.
But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.
Now, look at Marineford:
-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.
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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.
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No, you really aren't overreacting at all on Drama Queen level…@Sean:
You've forgot to mention the empty backgrounds. Blue sky and white clouds must be really hard for the anime staff to do.
Oh, that's not a big deal: They're just copy & pasting the sky images they've done for Bleach.
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Fillers were business as usual no surprise here though could have been better for this ep. The ending is where the guy gets magma fisted from here everything ensues if it’s not impactful how to seriously empathize with all the shit after & beyond? For me it wasnt compared to the epic panel. But if peeps got the wow impact seeing this then Im glad for them. Still enjoy the anime, just had my hopes pumped too high for this ep blame it on the ‘Luffy’s fierce attack’ start
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I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.
Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.
So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.
But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.
Now, look at Marineford:
-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.
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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.
The fanboys sure are raging.:ninja:
Why don't you go and send them a nice, long complaint letter? -
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Oh, that's not a big deal: They're just copy & pasting the sky images they've done for Bleach.
I was talking about Bleach. Not One Piece.
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I could've sworn manga readers raged that the war was slow and it didn't look like the conflict was always present…
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I actually agree with Midnight Rift on almost everything, I don't really feel Marineford was a BIG letdown but up until this point Toei has handled most of the WHAM moments in One Piece excellently. This is the first time something awesome became so underwhelming, it's really upsetting because the entire arc was building up to this moment.
Sadly, I've never felt One Piece had to compete with Naruto in terms of animation but when you go lower than the standards of your own series. We'll see how the rest of the arc is handled.
O-chan
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This ain't even the super big moment.
That's like, three weeks from now.
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I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.
Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.
So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.
But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.
Now, look at Marineford:
-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.
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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.
You sound like a total bitch, bro.
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I started on One Piece through the anime, made it up to the beginnings of the Whitebeard War before I went back through the manga. I agree with most of the critiques about the pacing of the anime, but I still try to be anime-first for two reasons:
-voice acting (which suffered with Ace's HRRRRK for the last two dozen episodes), since almost all of the characters are matched so perfectly
-and music. Admittedly, much of this is repetitive and a good deal of it is not that good, but scenes I found merely mildly entertaining in the manga like Luffy busting out between the buildings during the Aqua Laguna were frickin' awesome with the soundtrack accompanying. Just recently, I thought Mihawk's commenting on Luffy's charisma went from a very good scene to a great one thanks to nice implementation of music.That said, I think the Buggy Fillers have been the greatest travesties wrought on the manga for the whole series. I mean, what the hell, man?
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-voice acting
-and musicThat said, I think the Buggy Fillers have been the greatest travesties wrought on the manga for the whole series. I mean, what the hell, man?
My exact same two reasons.
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Looks to me from the preview that all the big emotional stuff behind Ace's death is next week and it looks VERY NICE. Personally I'd rather have his death look fantastic over the mortal wound that leads to his death. Sure I'd love to have both look great but if one has to look okay and the other looks awesome, I'd much prefer his last breaths be great looking than just the punch.
P.S. Some people are totally overreacting on how bad the part with Ace getting punched looked. It didn't look GREAT but it certainly didn't look terrible.
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^ Essentially what he said.
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@PirateHunter345: So ya like my signatures, huh?
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Noooooooo!! Screw you Oda, im not watching this show ever again!
ARRGHH WORST DAY OF MY LIFE
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@Portgas:
Noooooooo!! Screw you Oda, im not watching this show ever again!
ARRGHH WORST DAY OF MY LIFE
Says the guy with a Sasuke avatar.
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please, note the AcexVivi under his name
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@Portgas:
Noooooooo!! Screw you Oda, im not watching this show ever again!
ARRGHH WORST DAY OF MY LIFE
Oh, it gets better alright….
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@Portgas:
Noooooooo!! Screw you Oda, im not watching this show ever again!
ARRGHH WORST DAY OF MY LIFE
Can you report someone for their avatar?
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@Portgas:
Noooooooo!! Screw you Oda, im not watching this show ever again!
ARRGHH WORST DAY OF MY LIFE
obvious, troll is obvious
@Mr.333:@PirateHunter345: So ya like my signatures, huh?
mind if i use one? been dying to have one of them. they look really epic
@PirateHunter345:Looks to me from the preview that all the big emotional stuff behind Ace's death is next week and it looks VERY NICE. Personally I'd rather have his death look fantastic over the mortal wound that leads to his death. Sure I'd love to have both look great but if one has to look okay and the other looks awesome, I'd much prefer his last breaths be great looking than just the punch.
P.S. Some people are totally overreacting on how bad the part with Ace getting punched looked. It didn't look GREAT but it certainly didn't look terrible.
agreed, but what are you gonna do? the people have made their decision on weather or not they will continue to watch, as …......ahem, how can i say this, as unsettling as this episode was, it had plenty of its good moments as well.
just cut down on the buggy filler, or just don't have it next episode, pretty please :sad:, that's my only complaint, it almost ruined the moment.
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NO, THE ENDING WASN'T DONE NICE
How can anyone possibly defend this show, I wonder? How blind must a person be to even remotely enjoy the animation, art, directing and even voice work from the past twenty episodes?
Only the soundtrack has been leveled up on the War, everything else has gone to the shithole
Anyone who calls me BLIND for voicing an opinion isn't even worth having respect for nor respecting their opinion in return.
I stand by that the ending was done nice. If you don't like that, then fuck off.
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mind if i use one? been dying to have one of them. they look really epic
Feel Free! Just not the same one I'm currently using! :happy:
I ALSO TAKE REQUESTS! (But you must provide the picture)
(and give credit please)
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I do agree with you guys completely, but IMO the episodes before this have been very good and the filler as done well. This episode was pretty bad overall, but the ending was done nice.
I think we're done with Buggy filler until after the arc ends. I think they wanted to get it out of the way to have the next few episodes be very serious and dramatic like they're meant to. And I think the ending of this arc will be very good and this will be but a bad staple.
There's more to come. Remember, the scene with Buggy trying to flee will be padded up to 11.
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Ok maybe I overreacted up there. But seriously, if Ace dies next week then this show sucks, Oda has no talent and I'm not posting ever again.:getlost:
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@Portgas:
Ok maybe I overreacted up there. But seriously, if Ace dies next week then this show sucks, Oda has no talent and I'm not posting ever again.:getlost:
Ummm… I think you are still overreacting...
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Nothing is as good as a crying WB-commander with ball-sack-chin:
http://img406.imageshack.us/i/1294533512882.jpg/
guess his name is fossa, but fossack'd fit even more…I like that Akainu puts of his cap briefly and dives through his hair during his speech. He's so awesome! And his tattoo-background is the same as mine: purple clouds, but I had this tattoo-background since 5 yrs ago.
Destiny knows no coincidence!
but 1 question:
did Ace' necklace break apart in the manga?
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Nothing is as good as a crying WB-commander with ball-sack-chin:
http://img406.imageshack.us/i/1294533512882.jpg/
guess his name is fossa, but fossack'd fit even more…I like that Akainu puts of his cap briefly and dives through his hair during his speech. He's so awesome! And his tattoo-background is the same as mine: purple clouds, but I had this tattoo-background since 5 yrs ago.
Destiny knows no coincidence!
but 1 question:
did Ace' necklace break apart in the manga?
i can't remember that exactly.No it didn't break in the manga. Apparently the scene was added for dramatic effect. And Akainu is awesome. His VA did an amazing job in this episode.
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Lol at people who are saying this episode was well done. Its like saying Naruto is a good manga.
Hopefully they get the other episodes somehow right, but I'm doubting it…
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@Portgas:
Ok maybe I overreacted up there. But seriously, if Ace dies next week then this show sucks, Oda has no talent and I'm not posting ever again.:getlost:
A clichéd rescue arc premise actualy failing , you don't think that actualy takes balls ?
I sugest you watch next episode/read chapter 574 and thent try to make up your mind with a cool head.
Unless you're a troll.
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@Portgas:
Ok maybe I overreacted up there. But seriously, if Ace dies next week then this show sucks, Oda has no talent and I'm not posting ever again.:getlost:
Hahahahaha! Weep for me, anime fans! Weep! Mwahahahaha!
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Why are people taking Herackles seriously.
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Herackles must be laughing right now. Hard. He has waited for this so long.
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@Aegir:
But let's not reveal who Herackles is, shall we?
You're talking about this guy:
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aren't you?
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I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.
Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.
So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.
But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.
Now, look at Marineford:
-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.
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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.
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Damn you, Deguchi…
Your avatar fits so well to that sentence. I can nearly hear Moriah saying it :p
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You're talking about this guy:
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aren't you?
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http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/037/0/7/HATERS_GONNA_HATE_by_spikewible.jpg
Terrible posters gonna post terrible memes
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btw did you guys noticed when Jinbei told luffy to run, and then he was like 'Oyaji-san' with a strange voice ? XDDD
rewatch at 16:07 XDDD
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@Portgas:
Ok maybe I overreacted up there. But seriously, if Ace dies next week then this show sucks, Oda has no talent and I'm not posting ever again.:getlost:
Oh don't you worry; it's just a flesh wound, bandages fix everything everything in One Piece. All they have to do is apply the magical pannacea bandages to his wound and he'll be as good as new! Right guys?
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Right guys?!
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I do not understand why you guys countinue to say that TheMidnightRift is just hating. He has valid points why this episode and the overall pace/quality of the War is bad and provides arguments.
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I have the HQ episode. So that means, I have hq Akainu.
Without subtitles:(screenshots, anyone?)