Most overrated movies?

Renegadesoul

What?

You actually liked the recent trilogy? O.O

Bill

He did say "half''of yourself.

Green_vs_Red

Nice walkback though .

Renegadesoul

Lol, didn't see the half…lol

Kaiolino

The prequels can't be overrated as nobody likes them to begin with.

Bill

The prequels are neither underrated, nor overrated.

JERK DISEASE

They're overrated because no one talks about how awful the basic filming of II and III are.

Watch Episode I, see how, in spite of ….everything, it plays smoothly, is filmed smoothly, it LOOKS good, in terms of art direction and cinematography.

Then move to II and III with those awful panning shots fucking everywhere and no sense of fucking anything being on a set. And how completely garish and overdone it all is.

Bill

The Catwoman mess in Batman Returns is just way too much and takes away from her character. Pfiffer does her best but Burton's interpretation of the character with all the cat reviving (and subsequent freakout in her apartment) and S&M/horny crap just takes away from it. I get there is always a matter of sexual tension in her character but Burton overdoes it…though at least it's not Halle Berry. I sort of hope that if Nolan decides to finally use Catwoman, he does it right. (and not go overboard with some of what Burton did)

I really don't see Selina in these series of films, at least not her costumed persona. She is an early Batman in his career, but with how the Dark Knight ended it just doesn't seem so. Selina Kyle might appear as a future love interest but aside from that….

Maybe her costumed persona might work, if they don't refer to it by name. Nolan had me believe almost, a man can dress up as Bat and fight criminals but how will they make me believe a female burglar using a cat motif to be believable?

With Batman you had a young Bruce Wayne falling into a cave with bats which traumatized him. When his parents got murdered, it was fear, then when he crafted his Batman persona it was predominantly because of that incident which was born from fear. Bat's are traditionally a very frightening, scary symbol, and Bruce used that as this motif to fight corruption. The very evil that took his parents lives, To impose his childhood fears and use it as his weapon.

With Catwoman you just can't really accomplish that. Talia has a more better chance of being in the next film then Catwoman I'm afraid. I really feel if Catwoman is in Nolan's last film it wouldn't fit that well with the believability aspect of his version of Batman. Aside from Gordon and Alfred, no supporting character has been reinterpreted from the Burton/Schumacher version. Goyer actually decides which villains they use, not to mention he's gone on to mention he wants to use villains from the comics, that haven't appeared/portrayed in any other media next.

wolfwood

@Tokoro:

Yeah a lot of people sort of look down on the Moore era but they always make this his best…prefer some other movies with him over that.

I loved the Moore era. To me Bond never really worked when he was being played completly straight.

I'll take silly fun with Moore over watching Sean Connery strangle a woman with her bikini top any day of the week.

Technique

@Chocula:

The Godfather is definitely overrated.

Dark Knight, Inception, Avatar is overrated but never the Godfather.

Tokoro Ataru

@wolfwood:

I loved the Moore era. To me Bond never really worked when he was being played completly straight.

I'll take silly fun with Moore over watching Sean Connery strangle a woman with her bikini top any day of the week.

That was "Diamonds are Forever", by that point the Connery era was getting ridiculous anyway (and Connery only made it to make a scholarship for Scottish actors) so it really shouldn't count.

I love certain films of the Moore era though (Man with the Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only, Live and Let Die, even certain aspects of Octopussy) but I do admit some of them did get somewhat formulaic and really silly. (though…admittingly one film I saw actually made me appreciate "Moonraker" more, as hard as that sounds) I just think "The Spy Who Loved Me" set up too many of the formulaic aspects of the later Moore era and yet many consider it his best film, thus why I say it's overrated.

JERK DISEASE

@Technique:

Dark Knight, Inception, Avatar is overrated but never the Godfather.

Shut up Phenomonyl.

Wagomu

@Jacko:

Another topic, why is there so much hate for death proof?
The film is awesome solely by the point that Tarantino said with it: Fuck you CGI.

The biggest fault in Death Proof is that it failed to deliver what it promised. Planet Terror went all out with over the top gore and violence, becoming the exact kind of ridiculous desired by fans of grindhouse movies. Death Proof had… talking... A lot of girls chatting it up and two total action scenes. Plus, it doesn't go anywhere. The conversations are long and drag completely, leaving very little room for violent shenanigans. By conventional standards, there's nothing innately wrong with it, but it's a square peg in the round hole of the grindhouse context.

Riddler

Whats with all the Batman Returns hate? I actually enjoyed that more than Burtons first Batman movie. The plot was all over the place in that one, with Batman being a side character in his own movie, having a boring, pointless relationship with Kim Basinger, whose character was nothing more than a one dimensional damsel in distress. Jack Nicholson ruled as the Joker, though. I think he still holds up to Ledgers portrayal as the character. Funny enough, if you`d mix Nicholsons Joker with Ledgers Joker, I think you would get the perfect version of the character.

Batman Returns doesnt work well as a faithful movie adaptation of the Batman universe, basically every character is different here. But in itself, it is a good movie. The dark humour works well, the gothic atmosphere is great and the music is fantastic. The romantic relationship between Catwoman and Batman is also much better developed. While Catwomans origin is too crazy, Ill admit that, I think Pfeiffer is really good in the role.

The Penguin…..well, yeah, ok, he has nothing to do with his comic counterpart. I liked this (very very twisted) version , but I can see why fans of the character would be upset. His death scene was awesome, though.

JERK DISEASE

lol at "GOTHIC ATMOSPHERE"

Also I despise Danny Elfman but maybe that's just me.

SympathyX

@Riddler:

Funny enough, if you`d mix Nicholsons Joker with Ledgers Joker, I think you would get the perfect version of the character.

Mark Hamil's Joker is the perfect version of the character.

Hiroy

The only thing I remember from those older Batman movies was one of Riddler's lines. "Riddle me do, Riddle me that. Who's afraid of the big bad bat" Something like that.

Bill

Returns Is an awful Batman film, with Burton's bleak moody themes. Even my non-batman fan friends thought it was a terrible film. I mean its not good excuse to say it was Burton film, he had the name Batman on it. On its own its average Burton film…Now I understand if the defenders say it "you didn't get what the artistic message was." I watched the film again not too long ago, and I hate all the same.

I mean come on, as a film alone, how can this stand? whether it was a man being raised by penguins being a sexually repressed, mucus spilling monster, or a fucking woman being revived from the dead by being licked by cats, and finally a homicidal man in a bat costume . Yes I know it is a comic book film, and some folk like how dark it is in a satirical sense but I just can't see a regular film goer liking this film. My movie-buff friends thinks its stupid, dumb, weird.

Don't get me started on how much a mess the plot is.

How the fuck can a mutant ever run for mayor in that amount of time

It is a boring social commentary on hopelessness in life or despair.

Riddler

I mean come on, as a film alone, how can this stand? whether it was a man being raised by penguins being a sexually repressed, mucus spilling monster, or a fucking woman being revived from the dead by being licked by cats, and finally a homicidal man in a bat costume .

Well, when you put it like this, it is a little too dark and weird I didnt say the film was an artistic masterpiece or anything, it´s just an ok movie and I dont think it deserves this much hate. It`s not an utter travesty like Batman and Robin. And the plot is better than in the first one. Maybe not the Penguin part, but Batman atleast has a decent story himself (the Catwoman relationship) that works and is believable. His relationship with Vicky Vale in the first one seemed to be added just to give Batman something to do when he was not fighting the Joker.

Im not trying to give this movie more credit than it deserves, I can completely understand someone disliking it, I just dont think that it`s one of these movies that are undeniably bad or anything.

@JERK:

lol at "GOTHIC ATMOSPHERE"

True, I worded that badly. Take away the "gothic" part. I did like the atmosphere of the movie, though.

@SympathyX:

Mark Hamil's Joker is the perfect version of the character.

Duh. Thats because his version embodies the best parts of the other two versions. Jack Nicholsons random crazyness and Heath Ledgers ruthless sociopath. Hamill is that good.

SympathyX

@Riddler:

Duh. Thats because his version embodies the best parts of the other two versions. Jack Nicholsons random crazyness and Heath Ledgers ruthless sociopath. Hamill is that good.

Wait… what... Mark Hamill's Joker embodies parts of Ledgers Joker?

Are you sure you dont mean the other way around??

Bill

Well, when you put it like this, it is a little too dark and weird I didnt say the film was an artistic masterpiece or anything, it´s just an ok movie and I dont think it deserves this much hate. It`s not an utter travesty like Batman and Robin.

"A little?". My post wasn't really a response to yours.
I respect your opinion. I don't really "hate" the film, hate is a strong world. Lets say its not to my liking. Granted The Penquin was always sorta of corny villian anyway, so perhaps he had to be burtonized to work.

And the plot is better than in the first one. Maybe not the Penguin part, but Batman at least has a decent story himself (the Catwoman relationship) that works and is believable. His relationship with Vicky Vale in the first one seemed to be added just to give Batman something to do when he was not fighting the Joker.

The plot is disjointed.
In my opinion Batman was just as shunned as he was in the first film.
I did enjoy the contrast between Batman and Cat woman though.

I'm not trying to give this movie more credit than it deserves, I can completely understand someone disliking it, I just dont think that its one of these movies that are undeniably bad or anything.

It has some good stuff in it. But the major fault was the character of Batman, he was essentially the same thing as the evil he fought.
In his original 1939 conception he onetime remarked**" Much as I hate to take human life, this time I'm afraid its necessary**." He only took life when it was necessary. Its my opinion and your certainly free to disagree.

JERK DISEASE

The Burton movies are as atmospheric as Space Mountain.

Bill

I somewhat, nominate Watchmen, because it was really quite pretentious in film format. I mean I love Watchmen, but as a film it just felt bloated and kinda awkward. I really felt Zach should have more balls take more liberties with the film, which was the major reason I opposed the choice of him taking directorial duties..he doesn't want take risk with material. I've said before that I don't care what license these folks take as long as the essentials are still there. I didn't get what I wanted, it was like watching an aped up literal translation of the comic. I love when they re-imagine the material to make it just as good as the source, if not better. It worked wonders for Apocalypse now, and Godfather. He had the potential to do that, its showcased in the ending in which Dr Manhattan factors greatly. That was great, the squid would look stupid in live-action anyway. Its one of things that works better as a comic. Another thing as the fan of the comic Zach fucked up royally with the ending at the same time.

"It has been announced World Peace has been achieved".
What the fuck? If one reads reads the original comic Adreins Veidt's plan, just before it blows half of New York you see a powerful, and deliciously ironic scene. In the film it has that line, that isn't realistic. It misses the point of the original ending. The New Yorkers are struggling, and they clearly helping each other at the same time. Adrien wants to achieve peace and create a utopia and he actually thinks avert a world disaster is going do that? That was what Moore's message was doing with that scene. Human conflict bypassed the supposedly "smartest man in the world" who could even go toe-to toe with gods. In fact it was the complexity of it that drove even a god who could do literally everything confused. Human error was too strong to stabilized by shielding the truth.

Zack fucked up on that final irony, just by cutting that scene. It needed to be there. Is Watchmen a good movie? Its an average one. Was it good adaption of Watchmen? Sure, but it wasn't a spectacular one.

Buccaneer

Bill, seriously your only hangup seems to be Batman killing. Peter Parker didn't grow up crushing MJ, but that's like the least bad part about Spider-Man, right? You'd like to think that it messes with the core of the character, but consider that he only showed killing intent twice in like four hours of film.

If anything, Nolan with his rehabilitated playboy that fears bats is just as off of any main interpretation. But it's not like that was what Burton aimed for anyway

Your other gripe is Catwoman. But as a Batman character and mostly in general, she really sucks no matter what you do with her. If Nolan uses her and she doesn't take away from Rises, I swear to God I will paypal you $50.

Watchmen, yeah, that wasn't quite made for movies, so I cut it slack for being decent.

Bill

Bill, seriously your only hangup seems to be Batman killing. Peter Parker didn't grow up crushing MJ, but that's like the least bad part about Spider-Man, right? You'd like to think that it messes with the core of the character, but consider that he only showed killing intent twice in like four hours of film.

Yeah and those times can really take a can really affect an heroic figure.
I view Batman defining himself of not taking of a life with pleasure.
Yeah I know I should have pointed out the disjointed plot line, ridiculous execution, and the fact it didn't have any heart in it( to me). I really was expecting a Batman film. I go into detail about how awkward the plot was, or again the villain dominating the spotlight, even more some.

If anything, Nolan with his rehabilitated playboy that fears bats is just as off of any main interpretation. But it's not like that was what Burton aimed for anyway

Because Burton wasn't interested in making a Batman film. I would argue he took he took the wrong direction.

Your other gripe is Catwoman. But as a Batman character and mostly in general, she really sucks no matter what you do with her.

Its stupid. Its really bizarre, and doesn't do it. I was expecting a Batman film not Burton forcing his bizarre ideas on me using Batman characters.

Watchmen, yeah, that wasn't quite made for movies, so I cut it slack for being decent.

We finally agree on something.
But I think I'll stop the Burton bashing, since I suspect it gets annoying.. Though if you do respond I'll reply back. Since I enjoy debate.

Chocula

@Bill:

"It has been announced World Peace has been achieved".
What the fuck? If one reads reads the original comic Adreins Veidt's plan, just before it blows half of New York you see a powerful, and deliciously ironic scene. In the film it has that line, that isn't realistic. It misses the point of the original ending. The New Yorkers are struggling, and they clearly helping each other at the same time. Adrien wants to achieve peace and create a utopia and he actually thinks avert a world disaster is going do that? That was what Moore's message was doing with that scene. Human conflict bypassed the supposedly "smartest man in the world" who could even go toe-to toe with gods. In fact it was the complexity of it that drove even a god who could do literally everything confused. Human error was too strong to stabilized by shielding the truth.

I don't really get your point here.

Bill

@Chocula:

I don't really get your point here.

Adrien, even though his intentions may have been good, was delusional about creating a utopia through averting a great conflict. As Human error is far too complex to fix to achieve a world utopia. As conflict has been at the very humanity for a long as its existence. So its an intellectual error to even begin to assume you just started a path to a utopia.

The scene of the people in New York Just before they get killed illustrates that.
That's the basics.

Buccaneer

Eh, I probably should have summed it up pages ago, that yeah, strictly as a Batman film, either of the first two can be a letdown.

Riddler

@SympathyX:

Wait… what... Mark Hamill's Joker embodies parts of Ledgers Joker?

Are you sure you dont mean the other way around??

Because Hamills version came earlier? Well, I didn`t mean that Hamill copied Ledgers version, just that his Joker has the best parts of Nicholsons and Ledgers Jokers in it. So yeah, he basically is the ultimate Joker.

@Bill:

It has some good stuff in it. But the major fault was the character of Batman, he was essentially the same thing as the evil he fought.
In his original 1939 conception he onetime remarked**" Much as I hate to take human life, this time I'm afraid its necessary**." He only took life when it was necessary. Its my opinion and your certainly free to disagree.

Oh, I actually fully agree with you on that part, this is one of my main gripes with the movie. I think this is a big, important part of his character and shouldn`t have been changed for the movies. I was even a little annoyed when he let Ras Al Ghul die in Begins, but I can accept that as he was still at the beginning of his Batman career here and had much to learn.

I think the main problem was really that Burton doesn`t even like comics. No wonder his adaptation strayed away so far from the comics.

Buccaneer

However Sam Hamm, screenwriter for the first, not only liked comics but wrote one of the better story arcs from around that time.

Hammill is the best Joker in voice, at best. Nicholson was too old for the first but would have probably danced circles around him. However overrated I think TDK might be, Ledger also did a better job physically than I think anyone could have.

ziesha

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Nobodyman

The Burton Batman movies (particularly the first one) are very overrated.

Now, I may shoot myself in the foot here, but I'll admit that I actually like Batman Forever. More importantly, I liked it as a kid and I had seen it before I saw the two prior Batman films. Thus, I was looking forward to seeing them and was hopeful that they would be as good or perhaps even surpass Batman Forever. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

I've seen Batman a few times and I just don't see what's so great about it. It's all very bland and dull. Keaton does nothing for me. Basinger does nothing for me. And Nicholson…just doesn't look right at all. The makeup for his smile always looked dumb to me and he just didn't seem very Joker-ish (especially when compared to Hamill's Joker). It was more like it was just Jack Nicholson dressing up in a Joker outfit. Not to mention that extremely dopey twist where it turned out that the Joker killed Bruce's parents.

And yeah, Tim Burton himself is pretty overrated.

Beetlejuice - Bleh
Batman - Bleh
Batman Returns - Meh
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Bleh
Sweeney Todd - I guess it wasn't that bad, but I don't have much desire to see it again.
Alice in Wonderland - Major bleh

The only two movies of his that I've that I thought were undeniably good were Nightmare Before Christmas and Ed Wood (and even NBC didn't wow me as much as I thought it would).

andre

@ziesha:

In my opinion , the most overrated movie is the second part of the final destination series.

The Green Hornet Download

Where are you from dude?

andre

@Nobodyman:

The Burton Batman movies (particularly the first one) are very overrated.

Now, I may shoot myself in the foot here, but I'll admit that I actually like Batman Forever. More importantly, I liked it as a kid and I had seen it before I saw the two prior Batman films. Thus, I was looking forward to seeing them and was hopeful that they would be as good or perhaps even surpass Batman Forever. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

I've seen Batman a few times and I just don't see what's so great about it. It's all very bland and dull. Keaton does nothing for me. Basinger does nothing for me. And Nicholson…just doesn't look right at all. The makeup for his smile always looked dumb to me and he just didn't seem very Joker-ish (especially when compared to Hamill's Joker). It was more like it was just Jack Nicholson dressing up in a Joker outfit. Not to mention that extremely dopey twist where it turned out that the Joker killed Bruce's parents.

And yeah, Tim Burton himself is pretty overrated.

Beetlejuice - Bleh
Batman - Bleh
Batman Returns - Meh
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Bleh
Sweeney Todd - I guess it wasn't that bad, but I don't have much desire to see it again.
Alice in Wonderland - Major bleh

The only two movies of his that I've that I thought were undeniably good were Nightmare Before Christmas and Ed Wood (and even NBC didn't wow me as much as I thought it would).

He didn't direct Nightmare either, it was kind of his vision, but he had no hands in the making of the film for the most part. (Nightmare is the only Burton film I could ever claim to like and then I found this out)

Buccaneer

Someone that saw Forever first and heard that the first two were better would likely be let down. Especially if nostalgia is a factor, and it is most of the time. While Kilmer, Kidman, and Seal were at their hottest, as an 8 year old I almost felt wrong watching Forever. To this day I won't watch Tom Lee Jones outside of No Country.

I hope I'm not coming off as a big Burton fan. I thought Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, and Nightmare were neat, and now I find out that he didn't direct that one. Planet of the Apes sucked as I remember.

Now I'm gonna check out Ed Wood, 'cause that's a nice cast.

Tokoro Ataru

Forever worked mostly because it was pulled away from the over-darkness of Returns, with Schulmacher on enough of a leash to prevent him from going as insane as he did with "Batman and Robin". It more or less is a big-screen version of the Adam West TV show…at least that's how I saw it. (well OK, maybe I couldn't stand Tommy Lee as Two-Face and Nicole Kidman did...what? She seemed more useless than Kim Basinger as Vicky Vale I say)

Bill

Y'know I might get hanged for this. But I sorta like Batman and Robin, its like a "Batman'' equivalent to 4kids One Piece, in a strange way. In that it damaged the perception of a product near fatally. It had shitty puns, terrible music, awful acting, plot heavily changed from the original comics. Its funny in a warped way. That and it caused a better, more accurate adaption later.

I like it in a weird way. Its okay.

Nobodyman: Jack Nicholson, to me felt like he was rehashing his "The Shining" performance.
He was a fine Joker, but he just too predictable a casting choice. It was sorta like the equivalent to casting Robin Williams as the Joker in the Dark Knight in predictability. With Heath I felt he was a better casting choice, in that he wasn't predicable and surprised his doubters. He actually came with whole clown makeup, and his voice all by himself. He had vision of what character should be like. Jack felt like pandering to the fan, and it's no sin to pander but don't let it override your vision. I think Heath and Hamil's Joker is much better then his Joker.

The Dude

You guys are nuts

the first two Batman movies are great, same with Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, and Ed Wood. Ed Wood might be his best.

the rest can suck a box of dicks though, Tim Burton should've stopped making films a long time ago.

I also feel like anyone who says the first two Batman movies suck has way too much of an obsession with The Dark Knight

Not to mention all of you are taking SUPERHERO MOVIES way too seriously

Nobodyman

@Buccaneer:

To this day I won't watch Tom Lee Jones outside of No Country.

None of them? Dude, you need to watch The Fugitive. And possibly Men in Black if you're up to it.

Now I'm gonna check out Ed Wood, 'cause that's a nice cast.

Great movie. It might still be floating around on Youtube, which is how I saw it.

@Tokoro:

Forever worked mostly because it was pulled away from the over-darkness of Returns, with Schulmacher on enough of a leash to prevent him from going as insane as he did with "Batman and Robin". It more or less is a big-screen version of the Adam West TV show…at least that's how I saw it. (well OK, maybe I couldn't stand Tommy Lee as Two-Face and Nicole Kidman did...what? She seemed more useless than Kim Basinger as Vicky Vale I say)

Batman Forever, to me, just seems very tongue-in-cheek. It's almost a parody of the Batman series, but it also a certain degree of seriousness, and somehow I think it works. Though I do acknowledge that there are plenty of things that are wrong with it.

@Bill:

Nobodyman: Jack Nicholson, to me felt like he was rehashing his "The Shining" performance.
He was a fine Joker, but he just too predictable a casting choice. It was sorta like the equivalent to casting Robin Williams as the Joker in the Dark Knight in predictability. With Heath I felt he was a better casting choice, in that he wasn't predicable and surprised his doubters. He actually came with whole clown makeup, and his voice all by himself. He had vision of what character should be like. Jack felt like pandering to the fan, and it's no sin to pander but don't let it override your vision. I think Heath and Hamil's Joker is much better then his Joker.

Honestly, I think Caesar Romero's Joker might be better than Nicholson's.

@The:

You guys are nuts

the first two Batman movies are great, same with Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, and Ed Wood.

Haven't seen Scissorhands, but Beetlejuice…eh, it was okay. It just wasn't particularly memorable and I didn't find it to be all that funny.

Ed Wood might be his best.

I don't disagree there.

I also feel like anyone who says the first two Batman movies suck has way too much of an obsession with The Dark Knight

I disliked the first two long before Dark Knight came out.

Not to mention all of you are taking SUPERHERO MOVIES way too seriously

I like Batman Forever. I want from a superhero movie what I want from any other movie; to be entertained.

Havoc

Tim Burton is just like Tarantino in that regard. He always recycles the same patterns. Tarantino tries to be iconic and genre-savvy whenever he can, Tim Burton tries to be pseudo-poetic and turns every film into an attempt of a fantasy orgy. Just look at what he did to poor Alice.

Ed Wood is the exception because there wasn't anything supernatural involved, and Johnny Depp had a great performance there. But even then I wouldn't put this film even close to Godfather or One Flew over the Cucoos Nest (sp?)

Nobodyman

@Havoc:

Tim Burton is just like Tarantino in that regard. He always recycles the same patterns. Tarantino tries to be iconic and genre-savvy whenever he can, Tim Burton tries to be pseudo-poetic and turns every film into an attempt of a fantasy orgy. Just look at what he did to poor Alice.

Yeah, only Tarantino can make a damn good movie.

Havoc

@Nobodyman:

Yeah, only Tarantino can make a damn good movie.

I'm curious what movie happens to be your favorite? Because I know Tarantino did good stuff in the past (Pulp Fiction) but also movies I find tremendously overrated (Inglorious Basterds).

Bill

Not to mention all of you are taking SUPERHERO MOVIES way too seriously

I really enjoyed the 89' film. My favorite part is Joker dancing to prince.
I mentioned before I liked Forever.
I kinda enjoyed Batman and Robin**.**

Batman and Robin. A superhero film needs to entertaining, with Returns there wasn't anything really entertaining, to me . For me, I couldn't even appreciate it " as so bad its funny" (Which is why I like Batman and Robin )
It had really dark corny puns, disjointed plot, terrible, confusing villain motivations, lack of a sense in plot. And just a plain unlikeable atmosphere. If I give this film any serious praise it would be the visually inventive set pieces, and that's Burton's forte.
.
I looked at it as a general; film: It failed.
I looked at it as a batman film: It failed even harder. I looked at it as a dark comedy film, with creative strengths: It wasn't funny, it was awkward, contrived and generally meh. I thought it tried too hard.

Now I said I wouldn't bash Burton but I couldn't resist.

Nobodyman

@Havoc:

I'm curious what movie happens to be your favorite? Because I know Tarantino did good stuff in the past (Pulp Fiction) but also movies I find tremendously overrated (Inglorious Basterds).

Eh, Pulp Fiction probably is my favorite. But I also love Kill Bill 1 and 2 and Inglourious Basterds (overrated? Maybe a little, but I need to rewatch it). And I like Reservoir Dogs, but I need to rewatch that as well.

Never saw Jackie Brown or Deathproof.

SympathyX

@Nobodyman:

Eh, Pulp Fiction probably is my favorite. But I also love Kill Bill 1 and 2 and Inglourious Basterds (overrated? Maybe a little, but I need to rewatch it). And I like Reservoir Dogs, but I need to rewatch that as well.

Never saw Jackie Brown or Deathproof.

Deathproof is great but you either love it or hate it. Personally I couldnt stand Planet Terror so this one was great for me. If you just skip straight to the action parts then its absolutely amazing. If you dont then prepare to hear half an hour of women talking in the same bullshit way as Tarantino does and then have some awesome stunts.

Loved Kill Bill 1 but 2 was a total letdown.

and even though I've seen it so many times, I've never been particularly fond of Reservoir Dogs and even go as far as to say that I would say it's probably his most overrated film.

Pulp Fiction is my favourite too though. So much right with that film.

Nobodyman

@SympathyX:

and even though I've seen it so many times, I've never been particularly fond of Reservoir Dogs and even go as far as to say that I would say it's probably his most overrated film.

Yeah, Reservoir Dogs didn't do much for me the first time I watched it, but I want to see if I like it better with repeated viewings.

Daz

Upon browsing this thread, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here with a serious dislike of Chicago.
Music and choreography were good, but I find it excruciatingly hard to sit through two hours of being supposed to root for the most unlikeable, self-centered, murderous bitches I've ever seen. Rather than them being likeable anti-heroes I just hate them, and instead of getting to the top scot free I'd much rather see them get those death sentences. The movie only has two sympathetic characters, of which one is played for a fool, abandonded, and sings a song number about his miserable existence, and the other one is executed despite being the only innocent convict.
What an utterly delightful musical.

And I realize that the series isn't held in high esteem here, but since I truly do like the book and the movie has been lauded as the best adaptation in the series, I'd call Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban one of the most overrated movies I've ever seen.
I was so angry I was speechless when I left the cinema.

Tokoro Ataru

I didn't think the Chicago adaptation was that bad but then again I liked the show.

Now as for a tad overrated musical, try the other Kander & Ebb film adaptation, Cabaret…mostly because Bob Fosse was way too obsessed with Liza Manelli and throwing away the plotline of the elderly couple. (though I was a tad surprised to find out the "young student couple" storyline was in the original book from what I heard...and Joel Grey was awesome regardless but he is the Emcee)

Mr. Zoro

I felt Pulp Fiction was overrated. Someone tell me if there's something I'm not getting.

A majority of it is probably from too high of expectations. My last roommate was obsessed with that movie like no other and talked a good amount of praise for it.

I saw Memento before it, so the whole plot being out of chronological order wasn't anything new to me, so I wasn't exactly wowed by it.
There generally wasn't any plot to it, but rather I saw it as a collection of mini-stories… but still, the plot really didn't go anywhere. It just seemed so random, such as a boxer losing his watch, then finding it and soon almost ending up getting raped.

That's not to say I didn't enjoy the movie. I like the heavy dialogue that's in Tarantino flicks, and not to forget Samuel L. Jackson's speech at the end of the movie.

There's other things I liked about the movie, but overall it didn't really leave that much of an impression on me.

Maybe I just need to watch it again.

kouch_lee

I know I'm gonna get killed for this. And I'm extremely sorry for being disapointed by this movie, I truly am. But. . .

. . . A Night at the Opera. Groucho Marx was really funny, but. . .oh, boy. . .Harpo Marx. Someone, please, kill him! (I know he is dead, I mean his character in the movie). It was like. . .for fuck's sake, YOU AIN'T FUNNY!!!! And Chico was pretty much mediocre. Not annoying, but not funny.

The fact that the movie is only good when Groucho is on screen is a bad sign, but then there's rythm problems, like a music scene being dragged on for like, forever, cause Chico and Harpo have to do their musical number (although I'll admit they are musicaly talented and Chico's part joking with the kids was kinda charming).

I know this is a really old movie and I have to take into consideration the year it was made and that humor changes with time, but being one of the best rated comedies in cinema history, I thought it had to many low points. Groucho compensates, of course, he is fantastic and brilliant, but unfortunately I can't say it's one of the best comedies ever. . .at least for me.

Ok, time to get killed for my bad taste. . .