Aizenfucius say, "When were you under the impression I said this?"
Felch Discussion Part 4
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Who's saying what now? Guys, I think the forum's having a problem. Non-existant posters posting blank posts.
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Who's saying what now? Guys, I think the forum's having a problem. Non-existant posters posting blank posts.
could be an illusion…
or is the forum itself an illusion?
are we even real?
gets stabbed by smirking Aizen in the back"Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy
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could be an illusion…
or is the forum itself an illusion?
are we even real?
gets stabbed by smirking Aizen in the backSo you're Momo? Nice to meet you. Sorry that Butterflyzen keeps stabbing you for lolz…
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lol, you guys are making yourselves look like an entire punchline.
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There's that weird error with the forums again. WTF.
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lol, you guys are making yourselves look like an entire punchline.
You're the joke, we're the punchline.
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@Cyan:
You're the joke, we're the punchline.
Why're you responding to that random blank post error?
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You thought wrong as always. What makes you think that? He's far from it. He's more of a philosopher.
Philosophers aren't blank, I suppose.
You know what this is?:
It's Amazonia dude… and Bleach is killing it. Don't you feel bad to like or even love such a series that just uses blank paper over and over, with millions and millions of anual blank-editions? Do you know how many fucking non-blank-trees blank-die for this blank-shit of blank-useless blank-paper? Blank-Bleach should be banned from this world.
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@Cyan:
You're the joke, we're the punchline.
I'm far from the joke. All you guys are just a bunch of mindless kooks of Bleach haters. You guys haven't even told me what makes Bleach so unlikable btw.
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hmm ?
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Goddammit, this is never going to end if you keep giving him reason to go on. He's proven himself objectively wrong on every single damn thing that's come up in this thread and the one before. Grant Morrison's a good writer, and has some interesting insight on his craft. But if someone says Final Crisis is the one example being used for good literature, then something's up.
Stop responding to the fuckhead - this is the Bleach thread, not Bleach. We want to avoid repetitious spamming and space-wasting.
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Goddammit, this is never going to end if you keep giving him reason to go on. He's proven himself objectively wrong on every single damn thing that's come up in this thread and the one before. Grant Morrison's a good writer, and has some interesting insight on his craft. But if someone says Final Crisis is the one example being used for good literature, then something's up.
Stop responding to the fuckhead - this is the Bleach thread, not Bleach. We want to avoid repetitious spamming and space-wasting.
Eh, you're right. I should've used Batman:Hush by Frank Miller.
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What fuckhead are you talking about? All I've been seeing are these weird blank posts. Zoom left us just before these started happening.
DAMMIT. Right above me there's another blank post error thing. -
So, we got to Part 4 while I was gone?
I hate all of you.
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This post is deleted!
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So, we got to Part 4 while I was gone?
I hate all of you.
Did you go through where you left off in the previous thread?
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It seems that nobody is willing to tell me just how "bad" Bleach is. I guess you guys don't even know what the fuck what you're talking about when it comes to Bleach. Just face it, you guys are making it out to be bad when it's actually enjoyable and entertaining.
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Should we have a mod come in and try to solve this error?
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Should we have a mod come in and try to solve this error?
That would be a good idea, yes.
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Did you go through where you left off in the previous thread?
Not yet. Is it worth the pain of looking through anything Bleach related?
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It seems that nobody is willing to tell me just how "bad" Bleach is. I guess you guys don't even know what the fuck what you're talking about when it comes to Bleach. Just face it, you guys are making it out to be bad when it's actually enjoyable and entertaining.
Yes, it's enjoyable and entertaining in the sense that everybody laughs every week when they realize how awfully the plot connects and how characters don't develop or are just forgotten, FOR YEARS, and that isn't certainly a pace problem.
humhum
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I stand corrected. All of you have conceded with me. It seems nobody is willing to step up and even try to prove me wrong. You all just resort to pathetic tactics like mocking and making fun of me.
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Not yet. Is it worth the pain of looking through anything Bleach related?
Yes, especially from page 471 onward.
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@Del:
Yes, it's enjoyable and entertaining in the sense that everybody laughs every week when they realize how awfully the plot connects and how characters don't develop or are just forgotten, FOR YEARS, and that isn't certainly a pace problem.
Why are people responding to those blank error posts? And with stuff we already know about Bleach.
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I'm far from the joke. All you guys are just a bunch of mindless kooks of Bleach haters. You guys haven't even told me what makes Bleach so unlikable btw.
We've been stating how much we hate it and why all the time but you're too busy riding Kubo to even notice it.
You still haven't even given reasons why Bleach is better than One Piece.
EDIT: Goddamn, is this the Naruto thread?
Moves so damn fast.
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We've been stating how much we hate it and why all the time but you're too busy riding Kubo to even notice it.
You still haven't even given reasons why Bleach is better than One Piece.
EDIT: Goddamn, is this the Naruto thread?
Moves so damn fast.
Look, I know Zoom was pretending the dong up his ass was Kubo/Aizen, but why are you acting like those blank error posts are him?
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@Del:
Yes, it's enjoyable and entertaining in the sense that everybody laughs every week when they realize how awfully the plot connects and how characters don't develop or are just forgotten, FOR YEARS, and that isn't certainly a pace problem.
A new challenger huh? You'll fall like the rest.
First off, you have no idea what you're talking about when you're saying the characters don't develop because Tosen has gotten plenty of development near his death and Gin's character has developed from a generic Starscream. Even Ichigo has also developed because he's struggling with his hollow side and has been trying to gain his resolve.
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Ummm… wth... someone really needs to look into this problem.
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Ummm… wth... someone really needs to look into this problem.
You need to stop spamming this thread. I'm seriously gonna report you.
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Guys, I seem to be encountering an error on this thread. It IS ontopic to discuss thread-related issues, right? Good. Then can someone tell me what's up with this?
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No sense of irony either.
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Terrible pacing, boring main protagonist and antagonist, poor plotting laden with unforeshadowed deus ex machina, no signs of the author knowing what he's going to do next (not a bad thing on its own, since the author of Fist of the North Star wrote the story as he went along, but made more annoying when combined with all of these other aspects), the complete lack of detail in most of the artwork, and dozens of characters introduced simultaneously only to be defeated and never mentioned again, meaning that they meant nothing to the plot (from the Fraccion, who might have well not been there given that most of them didn't add to the plot in any way, to Chad, who is rendered unconscious less than halfway through every arc and never contributes to anything ultimately, as the few people he's beaten were cannon fodder on the level of nameless minions).
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And here I am. Asking for anyone to refute my claims of Bleach being good. Any reasonable refutes yet?
None. And so far it looks like it's not gonna happen.
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A new challenger huh? You'll fall like the rest.
First off, you have no idea what you're talking about when you're saying the characters don't develop because Tosen has gotten plenty of development near his death and Gin's character has developed from a generic Starscream. Even Ichigo has also developed because he's struggling with his hollow side and has been trying to gain his resolve.
So… Killing a character is developing him? Na, na, na. Tosen and Gin were the worst examples you could give... For god sake, from their first appearence until their death they serve this purpose in the series: ______. But wait, WHAT THE HELL are you doing discussing manga in a forum, when you don't know JoJo, you don't EVEN KNOW FUCKING ASTRO BOY, you're on the bottom of the bottoms of a manga reader, no, you're melting on the center of the planet. How can you even argue that Bleach can be good, it was made by the MENTAL-BREAK DUDE FROM ZOMBIE POWDER, LOL!
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Willfully ignorant too.
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Terrible pacing, boring main protagonist and antagonist, poor plotting laden with unexplained deus ex machina, no signs of the author knowing what he's going to do next, and dozens of characters introduced simultaneously only to be defeated and never mentioned again, meaning that they meant nothing to the plot (from the Fraccion, who might have well not been there given that most of them didn't add to the plot in any way, to Chad, who is rendered unconscious less than halfway through every arc and never contributes to anything ultimately, as the few people he's beaten were cannon fodder on the level of nameless minions).
Why're you pretending like those blank posts are Zoom and you have to tell him why Bleach sucks again only to have him go "lol, no, you need to reed blech, becuz ur rong"?
Edit: Del, you seem to be pretending those blank posts are Zoom too. Please stop. It's making me think you might be insane. -
Why're you pretending like those blank posts are Zoom and you have to tell him why Bleach sucks again only to have him go "lol, no, you need to reed blech, becuz ur rong"?
I keep getting tricked by all of the illusions. However, I think I've got it now. I've found a way to stop them. It's called the "Ignore List".
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What? Everything Megadoomer said was spot on.
Why are you affirming Megadoomer's correctness to a blank post?
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Terrible pacing, boring main protagonist and antagonist, poor plotting laden with unexplained deus ex machina, and dozens of characters introduced simultaneously only to be defeated and never mentioned again, meaning that they meant nothing to the plot (from the Espada and their Fraccion, who might have well not been there given that most of them didn't add to the plot in any way, to Chad, who is rendered unconscious less than halfway through every arc and never contributes to anything ultimately, as the few people he's beaten were cannon fodder on the level of nameless minions).
Okay…
The pacing can be bad but it is bearable.
Ichigo is far from boring in my opinion. He's an more realistic protagonist unlike Luffy who has a unbearable amount of will within him. It just stretches into the realm of impossibility. He's boring because you'll know he'll "will" himself into winning a fight. He already willed himself to live. Atleast Ichigo has the will to protect. Something which is a natural trait within human beings.
Aizen is also far from boring. He presents an actual challenge to the protagonists unlike many villains who do not even come close to succedding their own goals and has an interesting personality. He is also not even overpowered as people make him out to seem. He is just overpowered now but he was actually never overpowered to begin with. He stated himself that Yammamoto is even stronger than him and he has a exploitable weakness with his shikai that has been shown three times in the series and the last time nearly resulted in his death.
The "deus ex machinas" have actually been explained more than once. Hollow Ichigo comes in every time Ichigo is on the verge of dieing since they're basically like two souls within one body.
People such as Grimmjow will come back. Kubo just has to get on with the main story. There's been people in One Piece too that played a part of the story that we haven't even seen until lots of chapters later.
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@Del:
So… Killing a character is developing him? Na, na, na. Tosen and Gin were the worst examples you could give... For god sake, from their first appearence until their death they serve this purpose in the series: ______. But wait, WHAT THE HELL are you doing discussing manga in a forum, when you don't know JoJo, you don't EVEN KNOW FUCKING ASTRO BOY, you're on the bottom of the bottoms of a manga reader, no, you're melting on the center of the planet. How can you even argue that Bleach can be good, it was made by the MENTAL-BREAK DUDE FROM ZOMBIE POWDER, LOL!
Actually I know what Astro Boy is and I know of Jojo's bizarre adventure although I never watched it.
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Actually I know what Astro Boy is and I know of Jojo's bizarre adventure although I never watched it.
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I stand corrected. All of you have conceded with me. It seems nobody is willing to step up and even try to prove me wrong. You all just resort to pathetic tactics like mocking and making fun of me.
Hello Mr. Zoom,
I'm not one to speak up often but believe me, im a veteran of this forum and actively follow many threads but I feel I would be best to answer you.Yes, Bleach was and is a good manga. Among the world of manga it is obviously among the elite. What angers people is to see a decline of quality. Bleach was A material and then one point, (when specifically being arguable), the decisions Kubo made began to slowly waste potential. I believe the entire setup and battles w/ the arrancar 10-4 were for the most part great, 6 and 4 beautiful and artwork in themselves.
Those are the praises of Bleach. What the other forum members see and focus on is this:
Wonderweiss's fave hollow, the one w/ gillian masks for fingernails and who saves Aizen so long ago gets roflpwnd in a heartbeat, the vaizards getting roflpwned by Stark and the OFFSCREEN beatdown on Ken. None of the vaizards used their bankai, their ultimate weapons in what was supposedly the most important battles of the series; how Chad and Ishida have done nothing of importance since practically the Rukia Arc. Aizen's way to beat the Capt. Commander was smart and crafty, well-done but it was stupid that he waited til everyone else got picked off w/o doing anything. The fact Isshin, Urahara, and Yoruichi had all these super,super,super amazing combo attacks and he's unharmed, not tired at all, and disentigrates one of yoruichi's things nearly instantaneously. How Gin gets pwned even after having character development, AND revealing a super secret form of his bankai….. how beautiful and well done the betrayal was, but he took a shit all over itwhen had aizen be find and not in the least damaged. and all the boring nonsense chapters like w/ the old school mates.
Thats what its been over and over, good decision–>shits on it-->delays w/ 2 chapters of nothing-->twist-->ruins it-->delays w/ 10 chapters of useless while important/cool things happen offscreen-->super cool attacks+combos in a battle-->aizen untouched (aka shitting on the clever attks he just made)
Long? Yes. Thorough? Yes. Have you been answered? Yes. Is Bleach a good story at the core? yes. Has Kubo took countless situations where the series WOULD have become 'Amazing' and an 'amazing piece of art' and beyond words?? YES.
The one ungodly, undefeatable enemy is what is wrong with the series and has turned it from potentially being legendary to being "OK"
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Among the world of manga it is obviously among the elite.
I'll go right on ahead and ignore this just for the fact you managed to drive out Zoom.
EDIT: Looks like it didn't do much good, huh?
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If comic books count then I'd have to say Final Crisis by Grant Morrison because I'll admit that story was pretty confusing and you'd have to look back up on the story before fully realizing what it was about.
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................................................If Comics don't count, then I'd have to say The Cold Equations by Tom Godwin.
so you list a mediocre science fiction story that is suspected to be a rip-off of someone else's work
no wonder you like Bleach
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Actually I know what Astro Boy is and I know of Jojo's bizarre adventure although I never watched it.
This one really is a veteran manga reader. He never "watched" Jojo's… because we all know mangas are watched. :getlost:
