Why is this thread suddenly transforming into a warzone?
That's why I put this here for this special occasion.
WARNING: May contain trolls.
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Why is this thread suddenly transforming into a warzone?
That's why I put this here for this special occasion.
WARNING: May contain trolls.
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Noooo not teh boxxys anymore. Spare me please!
I vote Jinbie!!!!!!!!
Probably a stupid question, but has anyone checked Chapter 292, Page 9 to see if there's anything of relevance there? Maybe others still know where to find One Piece online. I don't, after a quick search.
The whole thing is too obvious though, and I don't believe Oda would drop that obvious a hint, even if it were just to narrow it down to 2 or 3 characters. I'm perplexed (assuming, of course, this is legit).
Not to bad of an idea grim ill check it out.
EDIT: Heh never mind the entire chapter is about norland. i doubt anyone whos dead that long will join.
Probably a stupid question, but has anyone checked Chapter 292, Page 9 to see if there's anything of relevance there? Maybe others still know where to find One Piece online. I don't, after a quick search.
That would be right before the execution of Montblanc Norland. Sadly, I don't think he's joining. :ninja:
We can all breathe easy, since it turns out the 2929 thing was taken out of context. A reader pointed out that Luffy's Devil Fruit could be written as 5656 (go-mu-go-mu), and the same could be done for Chopper, Robin, and Brook. Since the only numbers left were two and nine, the reader brought up Kuma, to which Oda's response was pretty much a big ''WHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT???!!!''
Oda has such strange patterns that sometimes people look for them when they don't exist. Besides, that fan had a neat theory.
We can all breathe easy, since it turns out the 2929 thing was taken out of context. A reader pointed out that Luffy's Devil Fruit could be written as 5656 (go-mu-go-mu), and the same could be done for Chopper, Robin, and Brook. Since the only numbers left were two and nine, the reader brought up Kuma, to which Oda's response was pretty much a big ''WHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT???!!!''
Wow. That's a true fan!
Anyone who thinks Oda engages in this Maynard Keenan level of cryptic bullshit is a damned fool. Straight up.
That would be right before the execution of Montblanc Norland. Sadly, I don't think he's joining. :ninja:
Norland had the yomi yomi fruit before Brook.
After any scenes where he might have been swimming, of course.
He had a flashback and everything!
Norland for Strawhat, I'm totally behind it.
Oh shi- and i so thought Boa joining theory just had a major boost.
Sadly, there are no more Gods for Norland to slay. If he joins he could always go beat the crap out of pwngoat sense people seem to be putting him on a pedestal
norland needs to join bleach, at least then we woudl finally get our deicide done
Norland's punches with his DF are stronger than Newgate's without Haki and his DF.
Oda stated in one of his SBS and a interview that the crew would be completed before entering The New World, wich makes sense when you think how extremly dangerous is the second half of the Grandline.
While I do think the crew should be complete before the New World, Oda's certainly never said that in any SBS I've read or any interview I've heard of.
For the meantime, think about the hint related to the next crewmember he gave: 2929
For the meantime, think about the hint related to the next crewmember he gave: 2929
Your kinda late on the spot there mate. it was a theory made up by a fan.
What other positions need to be filled on the ship anyway? For the most part, everyone serves some type of purpose, and looking at other crews, I can' think of anyone else that they would need…
in the meantime
WIPER AND ROB LUCCI FOR NEW NAKAMATES!!!
The common consensus is helmsman. Judging by our glimpses into the New World, what with lightning islands and gravity shifts, a professional helmsman might be pretty important.
If Oda's gonna ass pull helmsman for the NW he should go the unlikely route and make a female take the job and have the dream be completely independent of the profession, sorta like Usopp.
I don't think it has to be an ass pull. They could go an island in and realize they need one, sort of like Chopper (they didn't react until they realized that they needed a doctor).
I agree, though, that it would be pretty weird to have a helmsman-related dream.
it would be pretty weird to have a helmsman-related dream.
I don't think so. A character in my comic has a craze for piloting, and is able to use any means of transport, like car, airplane, ship, so on. You can image a keen racer drive his car passionately, as if it's an art. There can be certain dreams related to ship steering, especially on an outrageously challenging ocean with crazily unpredictable weather like New World.
Character A: Let me make this ship dance. In this incredible storm. (laugh)
Well there could be a dream related to the position on helmsman and Oda could romanticize the idea of it that way but I think it'd be interesting to just go in a different direction with the dream.
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I don't think so. A character in my comic has a craze for piloting, and is able to use any means of transport, like car, airplane, ship, so on. You can image a keen racer drive his car passionately, as if it's an art. There can be certain dreams related to ship steering, especially on an outrageously challenging ocean with crazily unpredictable weather like New World.
Character A: Let me make this ship dance. In this incredible storm. (laugh)
A passion for the job is a bit different. I can see a character getting passionate over such a duty. I'm talking about his dream, fitting into the SH dream thing. It's hard to find one that relates to being a helmsman because it is such a specified job. Usopp's position of marksman has that same issue. How would you relate his life's goal to that position? Becoming the best in the profession? Zoro already has that dream with his swordsmanship. I'm having trouble thinking of anything relating to the helmsman position that would be a significant dream, otherwise.
You forget that Jinbei puts so much passion into what he does, everything is his dream. "I will steer us around this rock EVEN IF IT COSTS ME MY LIFE!!!"
Add Bonney, fuck Perona besides Bonney has potential for a rich backstory and big titties. Plus she kick Blackbeard in the face, kick assness at its finest!
Add Bonney, fuck Perona besides Bonney has potential for a rich backstory and big titties. Plus she kick Blackbeard in the face, kick assness at its finest!
I didn't understand all the BONNEY FOR NAKAMA in the spoiler thread. As stupid as Perona joining is, she at least has a direct connection to a Strawhat right now. Bonney had exactly one meeting with them. Her current storyline has nothing to do with the Strawhats. Is she an interesting character? Certainly. I want to know her backstory. But it's silly to make nakama predictions for a character who isn't even in contact with the crew. We've seen plenty of interesting side characters in the past weeks, so I'm guessing it's the big titties that are fueling this speculation.
Well, as of this chapter, there goes my Perona supporting. I'm sure there are still a lot of people who say that Moria's survival is irrelevant, but my entire theory was built on his situation:
1st theory (Ch. 472, 524-590) - Perona returning to Moria would be useless plot wise, seeing as it'd just be a character gone missing only to wind up at the exact same location in the exact same situation again. She needs to go somewhere else.
2nd theory (Ch. 591-594) - Moria is presumed dead. Perona needs somewhere to go.
Both of the above are void, as of his survival. The situation has now changed, with him no longer being a Shichibukai, and if Perona were to return to him, it'd no longer be pointless sidetracking. She left while he was a Shichibukai, and returns when he's not.
Still, this does not certainify her returning to Moria, but in my opinion, her chances dropped drastically. I have one other theory, but I think the likelyhood of it occurring is too low to even bring it up.
Any Anti-Perona who says something along the lines of me "having come to my senses", don't even bother. If you read through my previous entries, you'll see that my opinion has not altered one bit. I said nothing more than she has a "chance" back then, and as of Moria's survival, that chance drops, as I've been saying in my arguments from the very start. My opinion has not changed; the situation has.
Never really cared for Bonney. She's growing on me, but as for a crewmate? Hell no. She certainly takes fan-service to the next level though.
Funny thing that Bonney's "encounter" with the SH crew was also with Zoro.
What's all this about Bonney? She gets one hint on a backstory out of nowhere and suddenly she's a next crew member candidate?
She probably just turned some important person into a child and ran off without reversing it.
Bonney for nakama fans have nothing going for them except that she has a backstory needing to be touched on. Gaimon also had a backstory, so I guess he should join? Gun Fall had a backstory that was told through characters' lines, he should join. Kuma obviously has something going on with him, he should join. The list goes on. But what they (Bonney supporters) fail to see is that there's NOTHING tying her to the SHs (Gun Fall had more ties with them, and he didn't join despite having a backstory as the former god). There's absolutely no indication that Perona or Bonney will be anything more than side characters, regardless of the fact that Bonney looks to have more to flesh out than Perona.
/endBonney4nakamatediscussion
Bonney huh.
Unlikely like the rest. But I'd much rather her than the other canidates. She's more of a pirate than perona could ever dream to be
There's absolutely no indication that Perona or Bonney will be anything more than side characters, regardless of the fact that Bonney looks to have more to flesh out than Perona.
/endBonney4nakamatediscussion
Even though I don't support Perona, I'll still say this. Bonney's sudden backstory came out of nowhere. Same could happen for the former, if such was deemed necessary. A problem in this forum's arguments is that everything must be based on what we've got so far, and nothing on what might come up in the future. None the less, we're discussing the future.
Possible thoughtless and sarcastic reply: "Ok, then why don't we speculate about Ener suddenly dropping from the sky and electrocuting Crocodile, thus providing Daz Bones with a chance to join? He could also get a backstory!"
Reply to such comments: I'm not saying we should take into account any random prediction that can be thought up by the forum members, I'm merely saying we should see the bigger picture. One Piece isn't over. Things can change. Perona supporters don't fail to see that she has no back story. They see the situation she's in and speculate that she might get one eventually. Anti-Perona, however, fail to see this.
Keep in mind that I am not a supporter myself anymore. Just read what I wrote and think before you bash me.
Even though I don't support Perona, I'll still say this. Bonney's sudden backstory came out of nowhere. Same could happen for the former, if such was deemed necessary.
necessary? Is it, "necessary" for me to drink my own urine? No but I do it anyway cos its sterile and I like the taste
A passion for the job is a bit different. I can see a character getting passionate over such a duty. I'm talking about his dream, fitting into the SH dream thing. It's hard to find one that relates to being a helmsman because it is such a specified job. Usopp's position of marksman has that same issue. How would you relate his life's goal to that position? Becoming the best in the profession? Zoro already has that dream with his swordsmanship. I'm having trouble thinking of anything relating to the helmsman position that would be a significant dream, otherwise.
How about a dream to steer the ship through every storms and natural obstacles in New World? It's like…well... a support to Franky's dream.
necessary? Is it, "necessary" for me to drink my own urine? No but I do it anyway cos its sterile and I like the taste
Good for you . ;)
I get that the Perona supporters have said "she could get a backstory in the future" but that's an extremely weak argument because she just as easily could not, so you're job in being her support (not your's personally, herr sebbe who's no longer a supporter) would have been to prove that it's more likely she will than she won't. And there's nothing you can say to indicate that she will besides that "anything's possible", which can be applied to what you're arguing against as well, making it void. In this very thread the anti-Perona fans have reduced the Perona side to saying "well anything's possible" as their only standing argument, which is void as explained meaning that Perona fans have no argument.
nothing will happen to make Perona interesting. She will remain in a limbo. This kind of character has been done before in this comic and other fiction. They have no future. Perona will continue to merely exist.. outside of the spotlight.
Luffy has a keen eye for talent. He seeks out the kids with potential. He sips his coffee and says this right off the bat:
"boy ima make you a star"
many do not survive his auditions. Perona would be
among them
Bonney's sudden backstory came out of nowhere.
Not really. She's a supernova, a group whose entrance was marked very specifically. Out of them, she was given the most screentime, besides Law and Kidd. I expected those three (and Drake) to have fleshed out backstories. She's also a newly introduced character, whose powers haven't been fleshed out. Yeah, Perona could get a sudden backstory, but it's much less likely, considering the emphasis put on the supernovae and the fact that Usopp already defeated her.
In any case, while guys here might disagree, I don't really want another super-attractive woman on board. I love the diversity in the character designs of the Straw Hats. If there's another woman, I want her to have a unique design.
I get that the Perona supporters have said "she could get a backstory in the future" but that's an extremely weak argument because she just as easily could not, so you're job in being her support (not your's personally, herr sebbe who's no longer a supporter) would have been to prove that it's more likely she will than she won't. And there's nothing you can say to indicate that she will besides that "anything's possible", which can be applied to what you're arguing against as well, making it void. In this very thread the anti-Perona fans have reduced the Perona side to saying "well anything's possible" as their only standing argument, which is void as explained meaning that Perona fans have no argument.
Close, but not quite. The argument was that the situation she is in puts her in a good spot for meeting with the rest of the Strawhats. Stuck in a place where she doesn't want to be and her only accomplice being Zoro (and arguably Mihawk). During the time Moria was still a Shichibukai (see my above argument) and then presumed dead, she had an ambiguous future ahead, where the only two visible options where "stay on the island where she doesn't want to be" or "go with Zoro". You can see where the idea was born, no?
To add to the equation, there was her history with Kuma, which is almost the same as the rest of the current Strawhats. There is also her screen time in Ch. 592, where she was the only non-Strawhat, except for Mihawk, who got her own pages. Arguably, this counts as Zoro's pages.
There is also her personal flag, seen during the fight with Oars in Thriller Bark. The only other characters who have been seen with such so far are pirate captains, Ace and the Strawhats (Vivi included).
So it wasn't all "Anything can happen", although a lot of the Anti-Perona make it seem that way. Though, as you say, all of this could just be over-speculating, such as with Bonney now.
Even though I don't support Perona, I'll still say this. Bonney's sudden backstory came out of nowhere. Same could happen for the former, if such was deemed necessary. A problem in this forum's arguments is that everything must be based on what we've got so far, and nothing on what might come up in the future. None the less, we're discussing the future.
Bonney having a backstory was strongly hinted at during her part of the SN cameo scene towards the end of the war. When She made it clear that she had a vested interest in what was unfolding it became that obvious she had some kind of connection to either WB, the WG or both.
I don't think you can say the same for Perona…
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pretty funny
looking forward to enjoy more amusement.
Bonney having a backstory was clearly hinted at during her part of the SN cameo scene towards the end of the war. When She made it clear that she had a vested interest in what was unfolding it became that obvious she had some kind of connection to either WB, the WG or both.
I don't think you can say the same for Perona…
Where did it come from at that time? I'm not saying it's bad writing, I'm just saying most things come out of nowhere at some point, but as the story unfolds, they blend in nicely.
For Perona;[hide] http://www.mangareader.net/103-2565-11/one-piece/chapter-458.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2575-10/one-piece/chapter-468.html
Notice how we never get to see Perona's face in any flashbacks, even though Absalom and Hogback both had their share of facetime[/hide]I am aware of the difference between foreshadowing and coincidence though. Perona's ambiguity on the above pages was probably just coincidental, but in case she would've gotten a backstory after all, the ambiguity over her face at this point could have been seen as foreshadowing.
Where did it come from at that time? I'm not saying it's bad writing, I'm just saying most things come out of nowhere at some point, but as the story unfolds, they blend in nicely.
Even before we got even a hint about Whitebeard, I knew she'd have a backstory, along with Law and Kidd. The Supernovas were introduced with pretty much a big flashing light that said "these are important characters." She's the only female and she got the most individual screentime besides Kidd and Law. It's not rocket science to figure that we'd be given some story, even if we didn't have a clue about Whitebeard and the government.
Perona, on the other hand, was never given any sort of hint, even during her time in the spotlight. She's already been defeated. Her appearances since then have just been humorous cameos. Neither of them are going to join, but Bonney was always set up to be a better fleshed-out, more important character.
Even before we got even a hint about Whitebeard, I knew she'd have a backstory, along with Law and Kidd. The Supernovas were introduced with pretty much a big flashing light that said "these are important characters." She's the only female and she got the most individual screentime besides Kidd and Law. It's not rocket science to figure that we'd be given some story, even if we didn't have a clue about Whitebeard and the government.
You're missing the point. It's not just about Bonney, although she's a prime example. We all interpret clues differently.
Perona, on the other hand, was never given any sort of hint, even during her time in the spotlight. She's already been defeated. Her appearances since then have just been humorous cameos. Neither of them are going to join, but Bonney was always set up to be a better fleshed-out, more important character.
It's not my game anymore. My argument for Perona has run it's course. If your target is to show me that she had no chance to begin with, then I'm not interested in hearing it, because I've already made my arguments in the past, and there is no point for me in furthering them anymore.
I don't really see why people would now support Bonney considering all we know so far is she and the WG have history and she has a huge amount of antagonism. At this point, she's someone to watch but she can probably stick it out on her own for a while.
(though I still have some sort of weird theory that she really is an actual little girl and that the Age fruit she has allows for her to appear grown up…)