@juju14:
How else does a warlord hand picked by Gov, lose to a rookie. Great job WG great selection.Luffy didn't even have gears back then. WOW fucking kids beaten harden verterns.
If its Crocadile?
By winning their first two fights with Luffy at the verge of death, and fatally poisoning Luffy in the third so that if he hadn't been betrayed by Robin, Luffy'd be dead. Otherwise, he unquestionable won his first two fights and dominated the entire fight, and knew what his powers and abilities were, as well as his weaknesses. Both fighters were unconscious at the end. Mostly Luffy won by a narrow sliver from having outside help and just a few seconds more endurance.
If its Moria?
By winning his first fight with Luffy (without even having to move), then his fight with Luffy's entire crew, only to lose by being overconfident and taking on a little more than he could, when if he'd just stalled for a few more seconds, and would have won. He lost due to sheer ego. Otherwise he dominated the entire fight and knew what his powers and abilities were, as well as his weaknesses. Both fighters were unconscious at the end. Mostly Luffy won by a narrow sliver from having outside help and just a few seconds more endurance.
If its Kuma?
He completely owned the entire Strawhat crew with one hand. Twice now. And he was trying NOT to kill them.
Still doesn't adress any of the Akatsuki not knowing their own powers or limits, having various degrees of immortality that fails them, and being utterly killed by trickery, and trickery alone. Really easy to see through obvious trickery, such as "hey, I have a clone, look over there" usually, or not taking into account "oh, getting hit by a large fireball is a bad idea".
Now stop bringing One Piece into a Naruto debate. What one series does has no bearing on the other. The faults of Naruto's are Naruto's to answer to. Compare the series to itself.