The cartoon and movies aren't canon. Really.
Come on man. Get real.
Also, the image macros in this topic were dumb.
The cartoon and movies aren't canon. Really.
Come on man. Get real.
Also, the image macros in this topic were dumb.
This may become a continuing trend based on how well it is recieved by fans.
I think it has more to do with Toei making filler and now wanting to consult with Oda so as to not mess more things up.
And they say tighter moderation on these boards would be a bad thing…
this thread
@Zach:
And Mr. Butthurt decides to come back with the classic "two brain cells" and "f'in lol"! I love it! So sorry I ever doubted you!
Sorry man, but that is just pathetic. When single lines and simple points are flying a few hundred metres over your head, there's nothing else to do but type "lol" as a wan look forms on my face, knowing troglodytes like yourself actually live on the same planet as the rest of mankind.
There's a word for people like you: weeaboo.
And Zach Logan jumps on another buzzword, inappropriately applying it without even comprehending a fifth of it's meaning.
I think it has more to do with Toei making filler and now wanting to consult with Oda so as to not mess more things up.
For example, most of the events of the recent anime "Friend's Whereabouts" stories ended up being canon in the manga. Obviously Oda did just that.
Not only that, there are two streams of canons in the One Piece world: the manga canon and the anime canon. Both refer to their own story but both are based in a similar world, and on Oda's creation. However everything done in the anime has to be met with Oda's approval, and Oda on many occasions in his "Deep Thoughts" has commented on how much he loves the anime.
Just because you think the colors look different and a goat or two may show up, it doesn't make the anime for One Piece any less of Oda's vision. Everything important is still there, even if it's watered down a bit. It isn't perfectly "canon" but it is both a part of the main story and a part of it's own canon, which make it a very applicable way to enjoy the story that is One Piece.
Oh and Corrado, once you actually contribute something to the One Piece community, then maybe you can speak. Until then, please refrain from making an idiot out of yourself. Seriously man, get the fuck out.
The canonicity of that scene is in the sentence "I had a page drawn up of these 4 panels and we went over the limit, so we had to scrap it to fit the quota".
I.e. a direct sentence from the horse's mouth, saying he had drawn up a page and then showing it to us in the SBS. Something which you still haven't provided, and, in your efforts to do so earlier, proceeded to directly contradict your own points.
Sure show me something that proves he doesn't influence the anime NOW and not from statements made years ago - infact since reading all of the SBS's I have access to - it seems not much mention is made on the co-operation between Oda and the Animation team.
I believe it is getting closer - while you believe Oda chooses to Ignore a main source of income and not utilise it's potential.
People like you are the ones who kill themselves when it turns out Bucky didn't stay dead and now your universe means nothing - obsession for the sake of obsession will ruin your life. It's why actors avoid going to conventions if they can because people want to know why they contradict themselves in certain episodes.
Both the anime and Manga are entertainment mediums that allow Oda to not only tell a STORY but make money from it too.
All we're missing is Zephos and we're good to go.
Show me a single source that declares animated material as canon you thick bastard.
What O-chan meant was that while the story of the movie itself wasn't canon, Shiki's character was. Movie 10 is a different case from the others in that Oda actually and legitly directed/wrote it.
And don't ask me to provide proof of that. It's in this freakin' thread (and I'm not talking about what Cymelion provided).
I think it has more to do with Toei making filler and now wanting to consult with Oda so as to not mess more things up.
Yeah, I don't believe the movie is exactly canon, but I do believe it convey's Oda's opinions – he designed the storyline. If he didn't like where it was headed/what it was suggesting, he wouldn't have put it in in the first place. o.o
movie 10 is a canon "what if"
/thread
actually don't end thread cause this thread isn't about what's canon or not
Having said that, I still feel that Toei has more liberty than some of you would like to believe. I'm simply implying that they'd ask Oda about various points first, not necessarily if he was giving his blessing to a particular story "twist".
Sure show me something that proves he doesn't influence the anime NOW and not from statements made years ago - infact since reading all of the SBS's I have access to - it seems not much mention is made on the co-operation between Oda and the Animation team.
Haha you don't get to do that, you provide a few lines and try to use them, then when the tables are turned you criticise them yourself.
You're the one making the bullshit statements so back them up with a source from Oda or, I think the technical term is, "stop fannying around and go fuck yourself".
I
believe it is getting closer - while you believe Oda chooses to Ignore a main source of income and not utilise it's potential.
None of this has anything to do with what is canon material. What pertains to the story as Oda envisaged it.
People like you are the ones who kill themselves when it turns out Bucky didn't stay dead and now your universe means nothing - obsession for the sake of obsession will ruin your life. It's why actors avoid going to conventions if they can because people want to know why they contradict themselves in certain episodes.
Calling you all out on your shit is not obsession in the slightest.
Both the anime and Manga are entertainment mediums that allow Oda to not only tell a STORY but make money from it too.
So we've gone from "extended One Piece experience" to equal opportunities moneybags.
And oh yeah, answer that post at the top.
Sorry man, but that is just pathetic. When single lines and simple points are flying a few hundred metres over your head, there's nothing else to do but type "lol" as a wan look forms on my face, knowing troglodytes like yourself actually live on the same planet as the rest of mankind.
And Zach Logan jumps on another buzzword, inappropriately applying it without even comprehending a fifth of it's meaning.
Things you say do not prove you to be right they only prove you to be more passionate about something.
Taking the attitude of being better then those who question or theorise others and insulting them and comparing them to be less then you in the scale of humanity is wrong and makes you a bad person.
Infact to put it better it is people like you with no ability of compassion or functionable ability to converse like an adult that make you a dissapointment of a human being. I am dissapointed in you and others who know you probably find you to be a disspointment too. I would hope your parents are proud of you but I don't believe parents find children who resort to abuse and name calling very prideful - in fact I believe they only find them dissapointments.
A little girl who talks with dragons, a fat dude who can control temperature and the naval G8 base for starters?
I'm pretty sure G8 does actually exist. A naval base similiar to it was mentioned in the manga.
Also, Don(a.k.a. "fat temperature guy") was designed by Oda.
! Attacking personal character is the last debating method of a person who can not debate the issues.
We're veering further and further away from discussion. Please stop to try and save face (excuse the timely pun) for the rest of us. This comment isn't directed at anyone in particular.
Haha you don't get to do that, you provide a few lines and try to use them, then when the tables are turned you criticise them yourself.
You're the one making the bullshit statements so back them up with a source from Oda or, I think the technical term is, "stop fannying around and go fuck yourself".
I did provide details you dismiss them in the "ZORO CUTS STEEL WAAAAAH" fashion so why bother.
Calling you all out on your shit is not obsession in the slightest.
Your manner in doing so does
i been hear longer then any of you guys, and all i have to say is that if you really are having a problem with each other then simply add each other to your ignore list and stop wasting pages with this BS. I wait for a damn movie so stfu and let me wait in silence.
Stop fighting over canon and get me subs…....bitch
remember when we used to talk about where the subs where? that was fun…
remember when we used to talk about where the subs where? that was fun…
Those were some good times.
I hope that the subtitles come today!
I remember some tears in the ending of greg's review.
i been hear longer then any of you guys, and all i have to say is that if you really are having a problem with each other then simply add each other to your ignore list and stop wasting pages with this BS. I wait for a damn movie so stfu and let me wait in silence.
Seniority means nothing in that regard.
Simply because I used to anonymously browse the forums since 2004 (member on K-F since then) doesn't mean I'm any better than you or even a guy that's joined today.
HOWEVER, you are entirely correct about using the tools that the forum provides.
@mdmartin101:
Stop fighting over canon and get me subs…....bitch
This guy gets it.
@Zach:
For example, most of the events of the recent anime "Friend's Whereabouts" stories ended up being canon in the manga. Obviously Oda did just that.
And this retard still doesn't understand the creative process or the meaning of a 5 letter word.
Not only that, there are two streams of canons in the One Piece world: the manga canon and the anime canon.
You pulled this out of your rectal orifice about 5 seconds before you wrote it down.
Both refer to their own story but both are based in a similar world, and on Oda's creation.
One is directly from the author. The other is a bunch of Koreans slaving away for a substandard regurgitated mess.
However everything done in the anime has to be met with Oda's approval,
Nice. Now tell me again how that has any bearing on the discussion.
This is pathetic, you can't even keep track of a single train argument.
and Oda on many occasions in his "Deep Thoughts" has commented on how much he loves the anime.
Who gives a fuck.
Just because you think the colors look different and a goat or two may show up, it doesn't make the anime for One Piece any less of Oda's vision. Everything important is still there, even if it's watered down a bit. It isn't perfectly "canon" but it is both a part of the main story and a part of it's own canon, which make it a very applicable way to enjoy the story that is One Piece.
You can enjoy it all you want. what you need to comprehend is that has no bearing on the original work of the author and as such you should stop using words you have obviously demonstrated to not have the capacity to understand.
Oh and Corrado, once you actually contribute something to the One Piece community, then maybe you can speak. Until then, please refrain from making an idiot out of yourself. Seriously man, get the fuck out.
Absolutely not. You, who bandwagons upon the work of others and produce a piece of milquetoast trash every once in a while, have no standing whatsoever to criticise anyone else. GET THE PITCHFORKS HES ATTACKING US WITH ARGUMENTS.
You have my appologies.
I did involve myself in a discussion that was not what this thread was intially created for - this was not my intent I made a comment and was asked to back it up.
I should have realised early the futility of such actions.
I too am looking forward to this movie and I wish the subs gods speed.
Again my appologies for the thread diversion.
i been hear longer then any of you guys, and all i have to say is that if you really are having a problem with each other then simply add each other to your ignore list and stop wasting pages with this BS. I wait for a damn movie so stfu and let me wait in silence.
Although I do agree with you…you can still read flaming posts in silence. ^^" Just thought I'd mention that. Maybe wait in peace? Idk.
Hey, I stopped. I even deleted my flamebaiting last post. I'm going to wait patiently with the rest of these good folks. You can have fun doing what you're doing.
@Zach:
Hey, I stopped. I even deleted my flamebaiting last post. I'm going to wait patiently with the rest of these good folks. You can have fun doing what you're doing.
Well it was fun while you obliged with your scrambled whining, and I'm not surprised at your post. It's an inevitability, simply a matter of time.
Don't feed the troll.
SO fdein, how are those subs coming? =D
So far my translator has said he started working on them, I have a flight in a few hours and wont return until a day or two. I'll see what happens then
Nothing in the anime is canon.
The movie is very unlikely to be canon.
Nothing about that fact will dull enjoyment of the film.
Good show fdein.
And Corrado takes another vacation.
Canon or not, it rocks.
We have so many 'new' fans that are rabid animals. There must be something in the water. 2010 the year of the jackass.
I honestly feel like there are more reasons to believe that this movie is canon than isn't. Especially with the episode 0 tie in. Oda could come out tomorrow and say "it goes here", and that would be that. Either way you shouldn't let it bother you.
I don't know I can not pass any judgement on it until I get to see it :(
Waiting is so hard >.<
Decided to just go ahead and watch it since I figured it would be good practice for my listening comprehension. Some of the finer details were probably lost but not enough to prevent my enjoyment.
And boy did I enjoy that. I had a couple of moments where my jaw practically dropped, not for epic scenes, but mostly for hilariously unexpected things. I thought the soundtrack was pretty fantastic throughout. Even though the overall styling wasn't particularly artistic and a little "shiny" for my taste, it wasn't unpleasant either and matched Oda's drawings quite well.
! I liked how the characters were handled for the most part but I don't feel that Robin and Franky really had much of a chance to shine in terms of dialogue and battles. Nami wasn't as much of a damsel in distress as expected thankfully, and her repeated efforts to thwart Shiki really suited her sneaky character. As for new ones, Shiki was funny as hell and I thought Shao and Biri were adorable.
! Very satisfied with the ending and of course, Fanfare was a great song to wrap things up. I still think 6 was probably better but this one had everything that one expects from a movie. Really delivered.
Decided to just go ahead and watch it since I figured it would be good practice for my listening comprehension. Some of the finer details were probably lost but not enough to prevent my enjoyment.
And boy did I enjoy that. I had a couple of moments where my jaw practically dropped, not for epic scenes, but mostly for hilariously unexpected things. I thought the soundtrack was pretty fantastic throughout. Even though the overall styling wasn't particularly artistic and a little "shiny" for my taste, it wasn't unpleasant either and matched Oda's drawings quite well.
! I liked how the characters were handled for the most part but I don't feel that Robin and Franky really had much of a chance to shine in terms of dialogue and battles. Nami wasn't as much of a damsel in distress as expected thankfully, and her repeated efforts to thwart Shiki really suited her sneaky character. As for new ones, Shiki was funny as hell and I thought Shao and Biri were adorable.
! Very satisfied with the ending and of course, Fanfare was a great song to wrap things up. I still think 6 was probably better but this one had everything that one expects from a movie. Really delivered.
I decided to do that yesterday. xD I wasn't disappointed at all, in fact.
I just wish I understood what they said. TT.TT
for anyone that speaks spanish, that spanish sub is way better than the english one, it's still pretty bad but nowhere as incoherent as the english one.
for anyone that speaks spanish, that spanish sub is way better than the english one, it's still pretty bad but nowhere as incoherent as the english one.
huh? is shit the translation i dont know who do it but is an idiot sorry is just a google tranlsation
Aw man I missed the fun by a couple hours :(
Oh well.
Anyway, I'm gonna watch the RAW now and I'll have feedback here when I'm done.
We have so many 'new' fans that are rabid animals. There must be something in the water. 2010 the year of the jackass.
I honestly feel like there are more reasons to believe that this movie is canon than isn't. Especially with the episode 0 tie in. Oda could come out tomorrow and say "it goes here", and that would be that. Either way you shouldn't let it bother you.
This is pretty much what I said originally.
Oh well. I said my piece and then I go away to work and the whole discussion derailed into some real disturbing ugliness.
Sheesh.
O-chan
Goddammit, I need to see this subbed…in English!
Hurry up, people!
Aw man I missed the fun by a couple hours :(
You didn't miss much.
! Nami wasn't as much of a damsel in distress as expected thankfully
Thank goodness. I can't tell you how much that was worrying me.
Awwww. I saw that this thread had about 4 extra pages on it, so I thought the subs had come out. So misleading :getlost:
Oh The Irony
Please don't bring this nonsense into the Movie 10 thread.
YOU just resurrected that "nonsense" from 4 pages ago by quoting it but whatevs….at lead put the spoiler tags so as not to burn the eyes of the innocent.
On more a different yet familiar note.
I am starting to get worried that these subs will not be released anytime soon....it would be confirmed hell if the subbers pulled a One Piece Strong World and have us Americans wait almost another year for the subs.
sigh just the thought of that makes me twitch. Twitch
I would at least hope for one of the subbers to give us live updates on the WIP....which so far fdein has done, and I appreciate that bro, but I also understand life is a priority...as I type this while my girlfriend gives me "The Stare"....Twitch
Darn, tried to watch it on youtube, shouldn't have bothered>.>. It cuts off with 7 parts, and the crew reunites for counter attack.
We have so many 'new' fans that are rabid animals. There must be something in the water. 2010 the year of the jackass.
Yes.
Maybe someone threw water at the Gizmo of terrible members lately.