This post is deleted!
Untitled
-
This post is deleted!
-
i'm getting different answers. both seem silly to ban someone for.
ah well. can't be too careful with postings. we have all learned a valuable lesson.
but, i feel stupid, i don't know what ***** actually means. or why it could get you banned.
not going to say, to prevent banning. will go urban dictionary it.
You actually believe I'm new to Oda and his manga, right? Rule of forums –-> don't let post count fool you.
Besides, how do you define romance? This is a 8yr olds interpretation of romance where you are married just by holding hands. I think what Oda was stating is that there will be no real romance. He never said he's going to avoid making fun of characters just because it'll be misinterpreted as romance... see he's making fun of his childish readers as well. :P
I'm not a girl, I'm into that side of discussions. I'm actually talking about what may actually happen within the manga... or in my opinion what is currently happening.
Point out to me where I'm suggesting that? I'm only stating the facts:
FACT 1 ----> Nami is nakama ---> friend/crewmate
FACT 2 ----> The author himself has explained that the strawhat crew is more like a family... Luffy himself has considered Ace and Sabo as brothers, they were just his friends. Who can guarantee he doesn't think of his crew in the same way?
FACT 3 Luffy is a monkey, thus he copied Usopp who was really attracted to Nami.
FACT 4 Luffy meant the Hancock hug, he wasn't playing.Everything else is open to development and theories (which doesn't include Luffy's nosebleed in Arabasta)...
Says who? Are you Luffy? All Jimbei has to say is that Ace was like a brother to him ----> Luffy and Jimbei have become brothers... and hasn't Luffy drank sake with his crew on many occasions...?
As far as we know... you just never know on OP. I mean Hancock was the enemy at one point.
In the same way nothing but sibling love develops between a sister and brother. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you are trying to force romance on us.... Nami is not Hancock, if LuNa were to develop it'll be true romance, but HaLu or LuHa is just a joke between two exceptionally powerful characters... in my opinion LuNa is simply unworthy of developing considering Nami is so weak and cannot even protect herself much less the child of the next Pirate King...
That's right, every firefighter falls in love with those they saved.
So?????? Luffy doesn't want her slimy ass.
Why does age matter if there's never going to be anything shown or done on the manga?
Who is the excepton then? Didn't Luffy do the same for a bunch of monkeys before/during the Sky island arc?
Didn't I say that? But my guess is it'll be the most hilarious pairing, such as LuHa.
Romance on OP is supposed to be funny.
The rest of the manga?
Of course you are. :D
touchy. jeez, don't flame LuNa. Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I can't kick YOUR slimy ass.
-
IsabellaLuna, it's a female's "special part"
touchy. jeez, don't flame LuNa. Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I can't kick YOUR slimy ass.
he wasn't flaming.
-
IsbellaLuna, it's a female's "special part"
he wasn't flaming.
oh. (btw, there is an A in my username:getlost:)
sorry, I'm still pissed about the incest comment a few pages back.
-
(btw, there is an A in my username:getlost:)
I know, I made a spelling mistake. I fixed it. :happy:
-
-
If you must know, he said that he wondered whether reindeer and human pussy was the same or not.
Wow, that's just downright sick. I'm okay with him talking about RoCho (Though I wish he would keep it in this thread, most of his posts in other threads have some sort of allusion to the pairing), but once he starts talking about the detailed sexual aspect of it it's just inappropriate. And it honestly doesn't have much to do with RoCho itself, if he were to replace it with any other pairing I'd still feel the same way even if bestiality is illegal where I live.
Hopefully this ban will teach him a lesson and he'll tone it down a bit, because I'm noticing that lately several other people in this forum are starting to get sick of it. Does anyone how long the ban is? -
Wow, that's just downright sick. I'm okay with him talking about RoCho (Though I wish he would keep it in this thread, most of his posts in other threads have some sort of allusion to the pairing), but once he starts talking about the detailed sexual aspect of it it's just inappropriate. And it honestly doesn't have much to do with RoCho itself, if he were to replace it with any other pairing I'd still feel the same way even if bestiality is illegal where I live.
Hopefully this ban will teach him a lesson and he'll tone it down a bit, because I'm noticing that lately several other people in this forum are starting to get sick of it. Does anyone how long the ban is?huh. Where do you live? (general area, im not a stalker)
no Idea.
He didn't get into THAT much detail (That i've seen…) -
huh. Where do you live? (general area, im not a stalker)
no Idea.
He didn't get into THAT much detail (That i've seen…)I live in Washington State, though I spend more time/go to college in Oregon.
I'm sure many people have heard of "Mr. Hands" and maybe have seen the video. It's the reason why it's illegal here.
-
[hide]If you must know, he said that he wondered whether reindeer and human pussy was the same or not.[/hide]
Local got banned for that?
I know the guy has a fondness for the pairing, but he crossed the wrong line XP
-
I live in Washington State, though I spend more time/go to college in Oregon.
I'm sure many people have heard of "Mr. Hands" and maybe have seen the video. It's the reason why it's illegal here.
ah. Hate to disappoint but I'm not following that link:getlost:
i don't know if it's illegal in the D.C suburbs(Virginia technically) , I'll have to check.
-
I'm sorry, but… what? x'D It's just as pointless to pair ANYONE in OP with each other. Oda himself stated there wouldn't be any actual romance in it, telling people to go read shoujo if that's what they wanted. Hancock is just for humor purposes and a plot device of sorts. But that doesn't stop us. We do it for fun, not for facts. Just ask the people who like Eneru/Nami or Bonney/Law or something.
I don't say this very often, but Law x Bonney is actually my OTP. :3
[hide]
[/hide]
@IsabellaLuna:EEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH! MY EYES! (stabs needles in eyes)
Well, it looks like my work here is done!
-
You actually believe I'm new to Oda and his manga, right? Rule of forums –-> don't let post count fool you.
Besides, how do you define romance? This is a 8yr olds interpretation of romance where you are married just by holding hands. I think what Oda was stating is that there will be no real romance. He never said he's going to avoid making fun of characters just because it'll be misinterpreted as romance... see he's making fun of his childish readers as well. :P
I'm not a girl, I'm into that side of discussions. I'm actually talking about what may actually happen within the manga... or in my opinion what is currently happening.
Point out to me where I'm suggesting that? I'm only stating the facts:
FACT 1 ----> Nami is nakama ---> friend/crewmate
FACT 2 ----> The author himself has explained that the strawhat crew is more like a family... Luffy himself has considered Ace and Sabo as brothers, they were just his friends. Who can guarantee he doesn't think of his crew in the same way?
FACT 3 Luffy is a monkey, thus he copied Usopp who was really attracted to Nami.
FACT 4 Luffy meant the Hancock hug, he wasn't playing.Everything else is open to development and theories (which doesn't include Luffy's nosebleed in Arabasta)...
Says who? Are you Luffy? All Jimbei has to say is that Ace was like a brother to him ----> Luffy and Jimbei have become brothers... and hasn't Luffy drank sake with his crew on many occasions...?
As far as we know... you just never know on OP. I mean Hancock was the enemy at one point.
In the same way nothing but sibling love develops between a sister and brother. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you are trying to force romance on us.... Nami is not Hancock, if LuNa were to develop it'll be true romance, but HaLu or LuHa is just a joke between two exceptionally powerful characters... in my opinion LuNa is simply unworthy of developing considering Nami is so weak and cannot even protect herself much less the child of the next Pirate King...
That's right, every firefighter falls in love with those they saved.
So?????? Luffy doesn't want her slimy ass.
Why does age matter if there's never going to be anything shown or done on the manga?
Who is the excepton then? Didn't Luffy do the same for a bunch of monkeys before/during the Sky island arc?
Didn't I say that? But my guess is it'll be the most hilarious pairing, such as LuHa.
Romance on OP is supposed to be funny.
The rest of the manga?
Of course you are. :D
My God. Don't you have a life?
Are you that jerk "LuffyGearSecond"?
That would probably explain it. -
ah. Hate to disappoint but I'm not following that link:getlost:
i don't know if it's illegal in the D.C suburbs(Virginia technically) , I'll have to check.
Well it's Wikipedia so it's safe. Just has a tiny picture of the guy, nothing else.
-
ah. Hate to disappoint but I'm not following that link:getlost:
i don't know if it's illegal in the D.C suburbs(Virginia technically) , I'll have to check.
…. You've been fascinating me so much .___.
That's just wikipedia. But the real video of the event that caused him to pass is still online. If you were ever inclined.
It doesn't matter if its illegal or not >_> It's just plain gross.
But hey, there are plenty of people who find things awesome in their head/in a fantasy world they would find totally gross in real life. Local's not into bestiality even though he likes the fantasy of RoCho. I like yaoi but you couldn't pay me to see 2 guys going at it hardcore in real life.
Many people think the anon-status of the internet grants them to be whatever they want to be. Sometimes its harmless, sometimes its dangerous, sometimes its just plain weird (like in this case). But it's still real people on the other end of the monitors.
-
Local's made it obvious for ages he likes the paring, but as long as he isn't posting obscene things that break the rules (such as hentai of the paring), then why should be be banned for it. Might as well bar anyone from talking about yaoi or yuri. Or posting anything that suggests romance/sex of any nature, no matter how mild it is. Yaoi grosses the guys out. Yuri, in graphic cases, grosses me out, but I wouldn't ban someone for fangasming over yuri unless they were posting full on graphic nude scenes or extremely racy fanfiction.
There's a big difference between a relationship of two people who love each other consensually, but happen to be the same gender, and bestiality who many (including myself) consider animal abuse and thus rightfully offensive.
-
This post is deleted!
-
Fair enough. Although most people seem to forget with Chopper that he CAN fall in love with human women according to Oda.
As far as I'm concerned Chopper pairings are fine as long as the little pants stay on. I doubt there is anyone who simply pairs him only because he's a beast or for porn really.
Although it does seem that a lot of people confuse love with sex so instant mention of a pairing makes people think they're doing it.
Yeah but Local-chan got banned for specifically mentioning raindeer genitalia, which is really crossing the line from anthropomorphic to outright bestiality IMO.
I don't really mind Chopper pairings in and out of themselves, but what creeps me out about RoCho is the age difference when Chopper is clearly very immature and naive and seems and behaves much younger than he actually is. I don't have any problem with human/anthro pairings at all (heck, I actually like a few), and I've mentioned it before I don't really consider something bestiality if there is proper communication and the same level of intellect between the two creatures regardless of anything else, but Chopper seems too immature to be paired up with anybody, yet too old to be paired up with a young child character at 15.
-
Fair enough. Although most people seem to forget with Chopper that he CAN fall in love with human women according to Oda.
As far as I'm concerned Chopper pairings are fine as long as the little pants stay on. I doubt there is anyone who simply pairs him only because he's a beast or for porn really.
Although it does seem that a lot of people confuse love with sex so instant mention of a pairing makes people think they're doing it.
Hey there. You have the exact same birthday and interests as Local-chan. I thought using another account to bypass a ban was against the rules. :getlost:
-
This post is deleted!
-
This post is deleted!
-
This post is deleted!
-
Yeah, that's why I sent link and warning away from this sight. As for the DofuWani, I've seen pictures of equal comparison posted before without bans. But if that's really the case, then I'll do the same and provide an outgoing link.
-
This post is deleted!
-
Same again, I've seen links provided to doujins posted before. And I've posted that picture in the same way with warnings already and didn't get banned. But yeah I'd go ahead and remove, if they just happened to slip by the previous times.
-
There's a big difference between a relationship of two people who love each other consensually, but happen to be the same gender, and bestiality who many (including myself) consider animal abuse and thus rightfully offensive.
If you wanna get technical:
If anything, Chopper should be considered an anthro because he is given a human personality therefore is able to connect intellectually and emotionally with human beings. And, as it was pointed out, Oda said himself Chopper could fall in love with a human woman.
Bestiality is when a human being takes animal with much less mental capacity and forces the act of sex upon it.
Though the way Local presented RoCho oversexually was a bit over the top, Chopper is presented as having the same capacity for love as humans. This capacity seperates man from the animals, so it's more of a human/anthrohuman consented relationship then a human/animal forced act of sex. Therefore, while kinky and disturbing, it's most technically not bestiality.
Edit: And I think the comment that got Local banned was mentioning in the What do you wanna see thread that he wanted to see Robin and Chopper have wild sex. The alleged genitalia comment has been said to have been made over a year ago and deleted, no one is providing a link to that.
-
…. You've been fascinating me so much .___.
Er….
should I be creeped out?:ermm:
The checking whether it's illegal was just curiosity.:getlost:
WHY DO YOU HATE ME SUPER-FRANKY?!mokenda mint: I''m glad someone agrees with me.
OMFG. just followed the link. words cannot describe my disgust.
Sure as hell not curious enough to go look for the vid, Arei. I would rather go blind. -
Er….
should I be creeped out?:ermm:
The checking whether it's illegal was just curiosity.:getlost:
WHY DO YOU HATE ME SUPER-FRANKY?!mokenda mint: I''m glad someone agrees with me.
OMFG. just followed the link. words cannot describe my disgust.
Sure as hell not curious enough to go look for the vid, Arei. I would rather go blind.You just seem like…. extremely innocent. Like myself at 12 years old when I first got into chatrooms and had no idea what pussy, 69, and various other things meant. I was more O-o at the fact you didn't know what pussy referred to, and you're a girl, and on the internet.
Though I had no idea what it referred to until I was maybe like 12-13, so perhaps you are younger (not meant as an insult at all). But I used to the be the person who knew none of the slang so maybe it's not that strange. Or I'm just strange.
Yeah it's a video worth missing as much as 2girls1cup.
SO. Hot Sex Trio spam time:
[hide]
[/hide]:wub: First one is too cute XD
-
Hey there. You have the exact same birthday and interests as Local-chan. I thought using another account to bypass a ban was against the rules. :getlost:
That never stopped peole from making alt's before.
And yeah, "Cyber-Robin" isn't even trying to hide who he really is!
@Cyber-Robin:I agree with Local-Chan…
Franky/Robin -3
WHY DO YOU HATE ME SUPER-FRANKY?!
I don't hate you. I just like using genderswap pictures to fuck with people's heads! That's all!
-
But Cyber-Robin joined in 2007.
-
But Cyber-Robin joined in 2007.
So? The fact that he deleted all his posts when outed out by Icel proves that it was Local-chan. That, or he has absolutely no spine whatsoever. It could have just been an account he created in case of this happening or just an alt account to add more votes in a poll or hell if I know.
-
You just seem like…. extremely innocent. Like myself at 12 years old when I first got into chatrooms and had no idea what pussy, 69, and various other things meant. I was more O-o at the fact you didn't know what pussy referred to, and you're a girl, and on the internet.
Though I had no idea what it referred to until I was maybe like 12-13, so perhaps you are younger (not meant as an insult at all). But I used to the be the person who knew none of the slang so maybe it's not that strange. Or I'm just strange.
Yeah it's a video worth missing as much as 2girls1cup.
SO. Hot Sex Trio spam time:
[hide]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/otakurealm/11639809.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/otakurealm/crocdoflahawkeye23.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/otakurealm/8958838.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/otakurealm/10032745.png
[/hide]:wub: First one is too cute XD
Almost right! Im actually 14. A 14 year old perv with a love of manga and a crush on a 16-year-old.
and Arlong park is the extent of my social networking, so yea; Its obvious that I would seem naive/innocent.
im not offended. -
So? The fact that he deleted all his posts when outed out by Icel proves that it was Local-chan. That, or he has absolutely no spine whatsoever. It could have just been an account he created in case of this happening or just an alt account to add more votes in a poll or hell if I know.
hmm… good point.
-
Guys who like girl/girl but say they can't stand gays and girls who like boy/boy but don't dig lesbians are always making me laugh.
If there's anything offensive about RoCho it is the age difference.
Which makes Hancock/Luffy as offensive.
I've never heard of anybody being accused in having any sexual relationship with an animal, but look at what's happening in Les Bleus now :PI could understand a few weeks ban for Local's comments, but a forever ban? Wow, mods.
-
From what I understand that was merely the straw that broke the camel's back.
-
For a member who's been at this forum since it all began and who has a The Pervert of AP forums award to be banned forever for some irky jokes is kinda… you know.... not cool for mods who did that.
Why create that nomination if he can't express his perversion on the boards? The rules are being fishy here. Sometimes he's a bit over the edge, but he only makes it for fun, he's not a real pervert who'd you be terrefied to meet in reality, just a young gentelmen who likes some nasty comments, that's all. No harm done for anybody, expect some close minded people who get offended by everybody and their mother. I'm offended by lots of things (i.e. hetalia icons), but I don't run around the forums marking people.
If he deserved a punishment, not something anywhere near that strict. -
@Al!naJames:
For a member who's been at this forum since it all began and who has a The Pervert of AP forums award to be banned forever for some irky jokes is kinda… you know.... not cool for mods who did that.
Why create that nomination if he can't express his perversion on the boards? The rules are being fishy here. Sometimes he's a bit over the edge, but he only makes it for fun, he's not a real pervert who'd you be terrefied to meet in reality, just a young gentelmen who likes some nasty comments, that's all. No harm done for anybody, expect some close minded people who get offended by everybody and their mother. I'm offended by lots of things (i.e. hetalia icons), but I don't run around the forums marking people.
If he deserved a punishment, not something anywhere near that strict.Well that would be pure favoritism. Who cares if he's been on here for years and is well-known and won a stupid award? Honestly if the mods were more lenient based on the member that was breaking the rules that would mean that the mods would be doing a shitty job. I'm glad that they're looking past that, I get so pissed off when I hear that a celebrity who committed a crime IRL gets their sentences reduced for the simple fact that they're a freaking celebrity.
This reminds me of the one time Robby made that "Moria Fanclub" thread for BekadidAct because he was fond of him, but later deleted it because another mod pointed out it was favoritism. While I think that was kind of mean, I'm glad that mods try to be neutral here.And I don't think this is the only incident. After looking around a bit it seems like his old art thread was deleted only a few weeks ago for posting outright porn on it, not to mention that knowing him he most likely made other comments that crossed the line in the past.
-
He has been posting somewhat racy things in his art thread, but he was allowed to keep it in his art thread. If there was a problem with his art thread it would've been deleted a few years ago. The thing that happened recently was because someone came in and started to troll/mark everything in his thread as offensive.
If the mods had a serious issue with it, it would've been closed and Local banned ages ago, because it wasnt just a couple of weeks ago he started posting RoCho art in his thread.
The internet is not always a fair place. Favoritism is alive and well on these forums just like anywhere else, everyones got a bias towards something or someone. There's no internet police to come down and make people stop. The mods/admins will do what they want to do because they are running the show. We can appeal all we want but it comes down to their decision, and if they wanna play favorites, they're going to. Not saying they 100% will but they have the power to, if they chose.
Just because a few people are absolutely disgusted with Local, doesn't mean he deserves a perma ban. If the powers that be agree to it then he gets it, but just because a couple of lowly users think he's a perv when he's pretty much ignored or accepted by the rest of the forum is not a good excuse.
There are probably people pissed at you, and people pissed at me, and people pissed at others on the boards who are either annoying/disgusting/whatever they wish to leave or be banned, but that's not grounds for it.
-
My God.
LuffyTHEPirateKING will suffice.
Don't you have a life?
Isn't my existence within this forum among other humans an indication of life?
Much of my life is devoted to work, I'm afraid… and 40% of my work is online, thus I have time to type in forums such as these.Are you that jerk "LuffyGearSecond"?
No, but I'm known as GoldRoger in another forum.
That would probably explain it.
I'm guessing this Luffy character is epic like me? Though just second gear Luffy, not THEPirateKING? Is Luffy lifeless…?... are we even allowed to bash people on here? Aren't you disturbing the balance of forum etiquette? :o Y'know provoking a constant barrage of GomuGomuposts into your head? I'm just not sure you can handle such sensory loads...
I'm guessing Hancock may not be on the latest news of Luffy... mainly judging from Sanji's reaction:
Nakama ---> reaction is predictable
Marriage ---> reaction is predictableConclusion = it's something else..... what it is, I cannot say yet.... although it's entirely possible it's just about -----------------> ACE!!!!!!! @IsabellaLuna:
i'm getting different answers. both seem silly to ban someone for.
ah well. can't be too careful with postings. we have all learned a valuable lesson.
but, i feel stupid, i don't know what ***** actually means. or why it could get you banned.
not going to say, to prevent banning. will go urban dictionary it.
touchy. jeez, don't flame LuNa.
I'll dismiss looney however I like… what are you going to do, bite me?
Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I can't kick YOUR slimy ass.
HA –-->
You have a very high opinion of yourself, don't you? Ever come across the term arrogance in a dictionary? ;)
-
He has been posting somewhat racy things in his art thread, but he was allowed to keep it in his art thread. If there was a problem with his art thread it would've been deleted a few years ago. The thing that happened recently was because someone came in and started to troll/mark everything in his thread as offensive.
Uh what? No, his art thread was deleted because he broke the damn rules. It doesn't matter if he kept it in the art thread or not. If I make a thread where I post nasty things about members in this forum but only in that thread, that doesn't change the fact that I'm breaking the rules. If a troll marks every post I make as offensive, the mods are not going to blindly listen to that troll. The fact that the mods deleted it means that it wasn't allowed in the first place regardless of how long it's been up. If my neighbor has been selling meth amphetamines for 50 years, that doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean the police are going to let him off simply because he's been doing it for 50 years, and he's going to have the exact same charges as a guy who has been selling it for 2 months. The only thing the 50 years thing means is that they never gathered enough proof or nobody ratted him out.
Honestly, saying it was the "lowly user's" fault is like saying that the person at fault for A and B breaking up is C for telling A that B was cheating on her. No, it was B's fault for cheating in the first place.
If the mods had a serious issue with it, it would've been closed and Local banned ages ago, because it wasnt just a couple of weeks ago he started posting RoCho art in his thread.
It was against the rules in the first place. Maybe they just didn't have enough time to check every single page in his thread? Plus the art subforum isn't heavily moderated at all.
The internet is not always a fair place. Favoritism is alive and well on these forums just like anywhere else, everyones got a bias towards something or someone. There's no internet police to come down and make people stop. The mods/admins will do what they want to do because they are running the show. We can appeal all we want but it comes down to their decision, and if they wanna play favorites, they're going to. Not saying they 100% will but they have the power to, if they chose.
That doesn't mean it's right, and that doesn't mean they're going to do it in this forum either. I expect better from the mods, and the fact that they didn't let Local-chan do whatever the hell he wanted, and they didn't let Beka have his own fan-thread proves that they are good and reliable mods. Yes favoritism exists, on the internet and as real life, but that doesn't make it excusable, and it makes shitty mods.
Just because a few people are absolutely disgusted with Local, doesn't mean he deserves a perma ban.
He didn't get a permaban because a couple of people were disgusted with him, he got a permaban because he broke the rules of the site. Whether they warranted a permanent ban or not is up to debate.
If the powers that be agree to it then he gets it, but just because a couple of lowly users think he's a perv when he's pretty much ignored or accepted by the rest of the forum is not a good excuse.
Look, I don't understand what counts as a "lowly user" but just because Local has a higher postcount does not give him rights that others don't. Whether he has a postcount of 50,000 or 5,000 does not mean anything, all it means is that he's unlikely to be a troll. He shouldn't have any more rights, or lenient punishments simply because he has a high post count, and a user shouldn't have a harsher punishment if he has a lower post count. Thinking so is just being an elitist prick, and I'm glad the mods can look past join date and post count and see what is actually against the rules regardless if the offender has been here for years and is popular or some crud.
There are probably people pissed at you, and people pissed at me, and people pissed at others on the boards who are either annoying/disgusting/whatever they wish to leave or be banned, but that's not grounds for it.
I agree, unless such person breaks the rules, which is what happened here.
-
Um, post count is not an argument here because it's something we can't see.
Using post count to determine status is really stupid, I don't condone it anywhere, and it has nothing to do with anything on AP.
A "lowly user", and I dont mean it as an insult, is just your average joe on the forum that isn't in charge of keeping it running.
And you don't know the entire story. He's been getting away with his RoCho in his art thread. As long as it's not hentai (like blantant acts of sex), it's been allowed. The PG-13 rule, and PG-13 gets away with a lot more then I ever think it should, but thats a different story.
Local ASKED for his thread to be deleted because it was getting trolled. With almost all of his posts being reported in that thread, that would've brought up most of his RoCho antics to the moderators, but did they ban him right then, no.
He overdid hyped his preference to the point it crossed the line for one mod. But personally I don't think its something he should be banned for. That's my opinion based on my observation, because he HAS toned it down a lot.
Seriously, it used to be worse. And he wasn't banned for it. He toned it down but the wild sex comment just rubbed someone the wrong way. Thats all there is to it, and if he and his friends on this forum want to appeal for him, we can. Ultimately the mods will do what they feel is best deserving of the situation, but there's nothing wrong with his friends sticking up for him.
He's not the only person making sex jokes/comments on this forum. And if thats the real problem we all need to tone it down, but if its just about RoCho then blah. He ships a weird paring. So what.
I do agree the pussy comment was too much, but that got pulled from a post from over a year ago that was deleted, it's not what lead to this ban. If they wanted to punish him for that particular comment it should've been done back then.
But this is all my opinion, I wanna see him have another chance. If he can't keep it PG-13 after that, then it really is his loss. But seriously, its a lot more toned down then it used to be.
I'm not saying favoritism is right, but there's nothing to stop a mod or admin from using it. It's just how it works. It's not right but you are one miserable person if all you do is focus on how life SHOULD be fair and is a terrible thing for being unjust. Yes it sucks but this is the fucking INTERNET. 4chan exists. That's enough to have little faith in it XD
I've seen a lot of favoritism play out on forums that disgusted me, and I let it make me feel like shit but you gotta remember this really doesn't matter in the scheme of life. I'm getting a bit off-topic with this but arguing about whether the mods are fair or not in this case is not gonna change them.
I don't think a mod was being unfair, but just personally had enough. And it's ok to disagree with that. And it's ok for that mod to have had enough, but I don't think a banning should be based on the opinion of one person either. We can all agree to disagree, but the mods have the final say.
-
Um, post count is not an argument here because it's something we can't see.
Uh sorry, I meant join date. Same elitist shit, really.
As long as it's not hentai (like blantant acts of sex), it's been allowed. The PG-13 rule, and PG-13 gets away with a lot more then I ever think it should, but thats a different story.
Did you look at the thread? There was blatant hentai on it. It wasn't sexy stuff, there was blatant porn in it, and plenty of it.
Local ASKED for his thread to be deleted because it was getting trolled. With almost all of his posts being reported in that thread, that would've brought up most of his RoCho antics to the moderators, but did they ban him right then, no.
No, what happened was that the mod told Local to delete all the posts that had outright hentai in, but because there were so many, Local just told the mod to delete the thread so he could start a new one. He even said so himself on the second thread;
I requested it to be deleted. I had to remove the images anyways and getting ri of the whole topic means all those quoted ones are deleted too.
-
I've ventured in that thread a few times, but since it's not a paring I care about and thats most of his contributions there I stayed out. I've noticed some kinky stuff but didn't give it a lot of thought because it wasn't outrageously outrageous. I'm pretty sure recalling him being warned about hentai in other sections of the forum, but until whoever it was went on a reporting spree the art thread has been left alone. And mods knew what was going on in there before, really. It's not like this was the first time it's been brought to their attention. And perhaps they are tired of giving him chances.
There's still no explanation (to Local) as to all of the specifics and a really final "You are completely and totally banned from this forum" (and no iron-clad IP ban either), so I've said my piece on it until there's a solid answer. So far there's just been vague things and speculation. I've been told different things and heard different things from different people. And if they don't wish to explain their decision, then that's that.
And I think this topic has been sufficiently derailed >_>
-
I looked at that thread, and I can assure you Arei that there was 18+ stuff there. It's not good to make up stuff if you're not exactly sure what happened. It's funny how you mention that reyairia doesn't 'know the whole story' when you just said that it fell under the PG-13 rule when there was tons of 18+ plus images. And no one was trolling him in that thread.
If Local-chan and co want to appeal it or whatever it's fine. But the only reasons I'm seeing for that is that he's a 'veteran' and 'popular' member, which is the most fucking retarded thing I've ever read, and consequently anyone who thinks those are good reasons is too. Just stick to saying how unfair you thought the permaban was for that and stay away from using the internet celebrity card.
-
I never said anything him about him being a veteran and popular member. That was not my comment and I don't appreciate it being treated as such. I just said he contributed some good things and is a friend.
The internet celebrity card is stupid, but if someone is gonna play it for you to get you out of trouble, would you complain and not accept it?
My biggest deal is they should've banned him from the get go and not let his stuff continue until they just got "fed up with it". If you want to bitch about fairness, letting someone get away with something then turn around and take it away is pretty dirty IMO. That just gets me on a personal level. I don't give a fuck about what people post in forums as long as its not illegal content (IE kiddy porn) OR it's like, an unexpected sexual/graphic image that is posted WITHOUT a warning to what it is. I believe he posted warnings on most of the more offensive things.
If you're gonna have rules, hold everyone accountable and cut no slack. Slack was cut for him for a decently long time. Not everyone gets that chance, but if he blew his chances then he blew it. We'd just like to know, but if we don't find out its a pretty definite answer.
I just remembered something but since I went around and mucked up my facts its not gonna do any good now. I'm shitty at these sorts of things.
-
I never said anything him about him being a veteran and popular member. That was not my comment and I don't appreciate it being treated as such. I just said he contributed some good things and is a friend.
How ironic. I never said that was in your post, and I don't appreciate my comment being treated as such when it wasn't either. I was refering to Al!na's post.
The internet celebrity card is stupid, but if someone is gonna play it for you to get you out of trouble, would you complain and not accept it?
No. If I break the rules, I break the rules and get a fair punishment. That's it.
If there's something wrong with the ban, like it being unfair or a mod accidentally pushed a wrong button or something, then I would appeal it for those reasons. But I'm not bigoted enough to think I would be above the rules because I'm 'special' and 'popular' or something.My biggest deal is they should've banned him from the get go and not let his stuff continue until they just got "fed up with it". If you want to bitch about fairness, letting someone get away with something then turn around and take it away is pretty dirty IMO. That just gets me on a personal level. I don't give a fuck about what people post in forums as long as its not illegal content (IE kiddy porn) OR it's like, an unexpected sexual/graphic image that is posted WITHOUT a warning to what it is.
I agree. But then again the mods here can be pretty lenient, I mean in the Aphelandra vs. Augur they even edited people's posts with a boob campaign when it's against the rules. Even so, we have great mods here who don't ban you for not agreeing with them or kissing their asses like I've seen several mods in other forums do.
Now! For something delicious. (DoflamingoxCrocodile) <33
!
!
!
!
!
! -
Personally, I find REPOST OF ARTWORKS WITHOUT LINKING BACK TO THE ARTIST more offensive then everything else alltogether there can be, Icel. Think about that next time you talk down on Local. Or anybody else.
It's funny to see somebody who likes Flamingo/Crodocile (which is LITERALLY this alot of times on Pixiv) to be annoyed at semi-beast/human pairing.Did you look at the thread? There was blatant hentai on it. It wasn't sexy stuff, there was blatant porn in it, and plenty of it.
Some mods and admins had explict jokes/pictures posted in the past etc, including E1n having balls and penises in his signature. And what? What was in the past was in the past. You can't ban somebody for things he's done long time ago and it was ok back then, but not anymore.
-
Can this shit please stop? For one thing, I don't appreciate a friend of mine being bashed to hell just because some people don't approve.
Be believe it or not, some people like myself actually took the time to talk to Local and got to know the guy behind the RoCho. I've had many completely porn-free conversations with Local, and he's a nice guy. Just because you don't like his art doesn't mean he's a demon from hell who needs to be burned at the stake.Alina is 100% correct about this, too. Mods, admins, and even basic members have had 'graphic' content in their sigs and avs before. Hell, mine's got a fuckin ass in it!
The point is though, Local ASKED and got PERMISSION from the mods to post his pictures under the condition that he properly mark them as mature.
Now if someone was blantantly stupid enough to think "Gee. This marking stating '+18 only' with several other spoiler tags underneath must be a trick. I bet there's a picture of something cute and fluffy under there instead" then goddamit thats YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.
I just don't understand why it is that the moment a penis pops up the world comes to an end. However, if something with boobs (nipples clearly exposed) is posted, everything's fine. This thread and the genderbending thread is proof of that! Just a spoiler tag and everyone's happy!Another thing, you keep bringing up the whole 'his thread got deleted' thing. If your heads weren't shoved so far up your own asses, you would know that one of the staff was going to let Local have his thread back. However, Local said no. Because he didn't want to cause any more uproar.
NOW GET YOUR FACES OUT OF YOUR ASS AND GET THIS FUCKING THREAD BACK ON TOPIC.
I COME TO THIS THREAD TO LOOK AT PAIRINGS. NOT TO READ ABOUT PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY DON"T REALLY HAVE THE FIRST CLUE ABOUT. -
@Al!naJames:
Personally, I find REPOST OF ARTWORKS WITHOUT LINKING BACK TO THE ARTIST more offensive then everything else alltogether there can be, Icel. Think about that next time you talk down on Local. Or anybody else.
It's funny to see somebody who likes Flamingo/Crodocile (which is LITERALLY this alot of times on Pixiv) to be annoyed at semi-beast/human pairing.Okay, that's just ridiculous. It's not like I'm claiming I made them myself or using them to make a profit and it's not against the rules. If it is someone please correct me. If you think that's worse than someone pondering what a female animal's sex parts are like on a PG-13 forum I think you need to get your priorities straight.
What's wrong with DoflamingoxCrocodile? Are gay pairings are just as bad as bestiality now?
And when did I say anything about RoCho? Since you obviously missed it:I'm okay with him talking about RoCho (Though I wish he would keep it in this thread, most of his posts in other threads have some sort of allusion to the pairing), but once he starts talking about the detailed sexual aspect of it it's just inappropriate. And it honestly doesn't have much to do with RoCho itself, if he were to replace it with any other pairing I'd still feel the same way even if bestiality is illegal where I live.
Don't even bother posting if you're not going to read through the entire discussion.
@Al!naJames:
Some mods and admins had explict jokes/pictures posted in the past etc, including E1n having balls and penises in his signature. And what? What was in the past was in the past. You can't ban somebody for things he's done long time ago and it was ok back then, but not anymore.
It wasn't just 'in the past.' If I remember correctly it was a few months ago when Local-chan posted a picture clearly depicting cunnilingus in his thread. It's not like this happened years and years ago.
-
If you think that's worse than someone pondering what a female animal's sex parts are like on a PG-13 forum I think you need to get your priorities straight.
It was a fucking joke. Get over it. I've cracked jokes with worse content before. In public no less.
Hell, my aunt saw a guy screwing a goat on the side of the highway once. We turned it into a huge running joke for years!It wasn't just 'in the past.' If I remember correctly it was a few months ago when Local-chan posted a picture clearly depicting cunnilingus in his thread. It's not like this happened years and years ago.
Again: CLEARLY MARKED. IF YOU OPENED IT, ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.