Mijumaru's evolution is making me wanna pick him even more. I think I will.
Pokemon's Fifth Generation
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Ugh.. the Gible wanabee could be Firepchan's evolution? It looks similar.. and lame.
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The pic makes me stuck between all 3 starters.
I'm still holding out hope that Pokabu will turn into a bipedal fire boar pirate with cannon tusks.
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@Badass:
Mijumaru's evolution is making me wanna pick him even more. I think I will.
Good choice, Sno!
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I still wonder how the manga version will have the characters. Since they name them after the games and all. It'd be weird if there's a guy going around saying "Hey I'm Black". Not trying to be racist though it just sounds strange.
On topic with the game though, looks pretty cool it just sucks that it'll come out after the 3DS is out. -
I still wonder how the manga version will have the characters. Since they name them after the games and all. It'd be weird if there's a guy going around saying "Hey I'm Black". Not trying to be racist though it just sounds strange.
Hah, that would be fun to read.
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Seeing Tsutarja's evolution, it looks like he's going to be a Grass/Dark type.
maybe.
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I'm hoping for Grass/Steel myself. From a type standpoint, it'd only have 2 weaknesses: Fighting and Fire.
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If thats surf it looks really awesome.
Also i think that anime pic is fake damn Tsutaja looks almost the same after evolving. -
Why aren't they using the game's girl in the anime this time around? Seems kinda strange.
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Wotter/Fighting starter.
FUCK YEAR!
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[qimg]http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20100627_bw_famitsu.com_01.jpg[/qimg]
If thats surf it looks really awesome.
Also i think that anime pic is fake damn Tsutaja looks almost the same after evolving.Most starters have that effect. They've got their three forms so the middle phase is just a bridger that looks very similar to the first form a lot of the time. Bulbasaur and Ivysaur are nearly identical aside from the flower opening up. Squirtle and Wartortle are pretty similar too.
Etc. etc.
Plus, there's change in color to take into account too.
Also, wow. Ash is just completely stealing the male trainer's look this time around. Previously its always been similar or inspired… but this time is just straight up the same.
Wonder if he'll be getting Wotter for the color match as a result.
And STILL no update for the Rocket outfits. Meh. They've already changed the motto twice, why not their looks? Not like Rocket is even a factor in the games anymore. Or the show that much for that matter.
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Eh my gut says fake.
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Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Guys, check serebii.
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New Pokemon and a 3 on 3 Battle? Seems interesting news has come out~
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Some of them look like legendaries.
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3 on 3 is official huh? Group hitting attacks like surf and muddy water will be king. Even more than they already were.
HOPEFULLY such things will just naturally occur in the wild on occassion, giving you actual reason and motivation to develop a combo team… unlike before where there'd be maybe 10 battles in the entirety of the game that called for 2 on 2. (Not counting areas with a partner where you have no control over the second critter.)
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http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml SHIET lots of new pokemons and Tripple battles how the fuck will that work, those new pokemons looks strange.
I hope they increase the number of party pokemons to 8 or something.
The video of those pictures.
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Gotta say those new pokemon look pretty bitchin'. Especially the sarcophagus pokemon. Ground/Ghost, I'm callin' it.
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Increasing the Party Pokemon to 8 would be nice and would allow for a more diverse team, but I don't see it happening.
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A sarcophagus Pokemon? Do want!
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Egyptian bugger seems badass.
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Alright, a real Mole pokemon. Cool, cool. And I like the mantis and Egyptian pokemon.
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Looking through the shots, I must say these are the weirdest buggers so far, even more than Hoenn's.
And Hoenn had fucking Chimecho!
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Man i mostly liked them but the Black one with the trianguylar body just seems so weird ;S, same with the other two that were with it.
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The blue one with the red wedges makes me think of Nosepass.
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Hmm about time we got a another spider type.
Is that a Grass/Ghost? And I don't know why, but I'm thinking Rock/Bug for the one next to it.
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The blue one with the red wedges makes me think of Nosepass.
That was the same thing I thought when I saw it. Although I must say, the sarcophagus and dinosaur looking Pokemon look a bit off imo.
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assuming its a ghost. they're the weirdest things i've ever seen.
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Now I'm actually starting to get interested in these games. It'd mean spending a considerable amount of money on a handheld game console and a game for it though.
I've seen people talk about trading pokemon via internet in the HGSS thread. Did I understand right? Can anyone do it? And is it only for the hardcore players who trade shiny level 100 monsters with moves learned with breeding, or is it reasonably possible to just get a species you like that doesn't appear in your game, even if it's level 5 fodder? I don't know anyone who plays pokemon with who I could trade Pokemon in real life…
(I want a squirtle, but not enough to buy yet another pokemon game just because of that)
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That was the same thing I thought when I saw it. Although I must say, the sarcophagus and dinosaur looking Pokemon look a bit off imo.
Digimon? .
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3 on 3 battles…oh man. I never even mastered 2 on 2... but tats kool. Adds somethin new./
I like the new pokes...especially that mantis and the sarcophogus one....pretty interestin design there...maybe its similiar to Spiritomb...that its some ghost spirit that inhabits that specific object...and perhaps it probably requires some stuff be done...like a sarchopogus item be found and some other conditions must be met...b4 u can like..get it..
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Now I'm actually starting to get interested in these games. It'd mean spending a considerable amount of money on a handheld game console and a game for it though.
I've seen people talk about trading pokemon via internet in the HGSS thread. Did I understand right? Can anyone do it? And is it only for the hardcore players who trade shiny level 100 monsters with moves learned with breeding, or is it reasonably possible to just get a species you like that doesn't appear in your game, even if it's level 5 fodder? I don't know anyone who plays pokemon with who I could trade Pokemon in real life…
(I want a squirtle, but not enough to buy yet another pokemon game just because of that)
The wifi trading covers all ranges.
You'll quite often have someone trying to trade a level 2 ratatata for a level 100 MewTwo, but no one actually goes for that. And there isn't an option to ask for shiny either.
But you can get pretty much anything (as long as you've seen it in game) as long as you have resonable expectations and are trading something reasonable for it.
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@robbybedfart:
The wifi trading covers all ranges.
You'll quite often have someone trying to trade a level 2 ratatata for a level 100 MewTwo, but no one actually goes for that. And there isn't an option to ask for shiny either.
But you can get pretty much anything (as long as you've seen it in game) as long as you have resonable expectations and are trading something reasonable for it.
Thank you. In that case I should seriously start considering getting the game once it comes out. Luckily I still have months to ponder whether I really want to start spending the part of my free time that isn't spent on the internet, Photoshop or Adobe Flash on a video game…
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@robbybedfart:
The wifi trading covers all ranges.
You'll quite often have someone trying to trade a level 2 ratatata for a level 100 MewTwo, but no one actually goes for that. And there isn't an option to ask for shiny either.
But you can get pretty much anything (as long as you've seen it in game) as long as you have resonable expectations and are trading something reasonable for it.
Not to mention bred Starters pretty much net you anything you want.
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Its still much easier to ask for trades instead of GTS so you dont get hacked pokemons XD.
Im liking the mmo capabilities i would love if we can actually go around and ask people online to fight i hope they confirm this.
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I looked back a few pagesto see if the entire trailer was shown, or if everyone just saw pictures. Just in case here is the video, with all the rest of those trange pokemon and 3 on 3 in motion.
http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=14165
And electric spider? Electric and Bug typing would be awesome!
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Yeah Filb had the video up, im ansious to see the Tarantula up front it looks awesome.
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We finally get character portraits when people talk. Pokemon has been way behind in basic game features.
What's next? TWO SAVE FILES? MADNESS!
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We finally get character portraits when people talk. Pokemon has been way behind in basic game features.
What's next? TWO SAVE FILES? MADNESS!
Two save files will never happen. Be too easy to clone critters then. If the franchise wasn't based around trading, I'm sure they woulda gone that route long ago.
They might possibly, eventually, allow you to start a new game in a new slot and save there without overwriting the old, but it'll never have the standard "save 14 hours in right before a big decision" thing.
Would be nice if they'd set up a better system for trading that didn't require two DSes and fodder equal to whatever you're trying to pass along, though.
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@robbybedfart:
They might possibly, eventually, allow you to start a new game in a new slot and save there without overwriting the old, but it'll never have the standard "save 14 hours in right before a big decision" thing.
That's actually what I was suggesting.
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I don't care if it ruins my expectaitions and sucks, I don't care if there are glitches, I don't care so long as I get my Zoroark and call it Wolverine!
And the water starter.Though I dislike how they keep spoiling it for us THE LEDGENDARIES ARE OUT MAN how can I find ti exciting if I know all the pokemon? No more spoilers no! Dx
… and I acreee with above, two save slots ftw.
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Aw, come on!
3 on 3?
The insanity!
….But using the three starters at the same time..... -
3 on 3? Seems a bit chaotic to me. There will probably be a point where you fight three trainers at once though, that's pretty cool.
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Considering every other rpg in the world for decades has had parties of 3-6, and enemies in groups of 1-8, its not all that overwhelming sounding.
Unless you can run into them like that in the wild. That'll make catching very different.
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@robbybedfart:
Unless you can run into them like that in the wild. That'll make catching very different.
That would be really cool though.
Hopefully that mole pokemon means we have some new cave pokes instead of standard Zubat/Geodude… -
@robbybedfart:
Would be nice if they'd set up a better system for trading that didn't require two DSes and fodder equal to whatever you're trying to pass along, though.
Or one DS, two cartridges, the GTS, and a tiny bit of risk.
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@robbybedfart:
Considering every other rpg in the world for decades has had parties of 3-6, and enemies in groups of 1-8, its not all that overwhelming sounding.
Unless you can run into them like that in the wild. That'll make catching very different.
XD btw Robby didnt you want a Sandslash evolution that would be Ground and Steel? or am i confused?
The new Mole seems to be Ground/Steel with the drill and all, its not a Sandslash evolution but its still a new Ground/Steel mole :D.
If they give evolutions or pre evolution i hope they only give to the pokemons that really need, like Farfetchd, Mime, Jynx, Myghthyena and some others, i hope they dont do the same they did in Shinno they did far too many evolution and pre evolution i want to see more completelly new pokemons instead.
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XD btw Robby didnt you want a Sandslash evolution that would be Ground and Steel? or am i confused?
Something, ANYTHING to fix the way the poor bastard occurs naturally. With some work you can breed a move set into it, but basically Dugtrio learns every single ground move and Sandshrew learns… nothing offensive within its own typing. Steel isn't a must have, its just nice defensivley. Lots of things they could do to fix it. Just let it learn Earthquake naturally (Or even frikin' dig) or have a better ability than "increases evasion in sandstorm by one level" (A move it doesn't even learn till level 52) and that would go a long ways. I don't ask for all these things. But... SOMETHING.
The new Mole seems to be Ground/Steel with the drill and all, its not a Sandslash evolution but its still a new Ground/Steel mole :D.
Well yes. But the point is to fix Sandshrew, not replace him. I love that critter, in both evolutions. It always seems to make it to my team, no matter how useless it is.
If they give evolutions or pre evolution i hope they only give to the pokemons that really need, like Farfetchd, Mime, Jynx, Myghthyena and some others, i hope they dont do the same they did in Shinno they did far too many evolution and pre evolution i want to see more completelly new pokemons instead.
Agreed. I went through before and made a listing of the first 150 and what could be done to fix/improve some of them, what was badly in need of evolutions and such earlier in the thread.
Here's they are again. [hide]
FIRST FIFTY
20-Raticate. Ratatata looks awesome. Its evolution looks like shit. Can we get its stats onto its first form? Or a sleeker, more purple evolution? I guess thats what everstones are for…
22- Fearow. Pidgey gets 3 evos, why not Fearow? Already kicks ass tho, doesn't really need anything.
24-Arbok. Secondary typing. Poison doesn't hurt anything except grass anymore. Dark, maybe? But Arbok has a pretty awesome, nearly unique move pool. (so does Seviper.)
28-Sandslash. Secondary typing (steel) , better defense, better ability, naturally learns SOMETHING in its type pool (man the poor thing is broken)
47-Parasect. Actual stats would be nice. Bug/grass is terrible typing, weak to everything. Maybe an alternate evolution. Spore is still awesome though.
49-Venomoth. Bug/posion still sucks. Change one of those to flying or dark maybe? Still weak, but some different strengths as well.SECOND 50
51-Dugtrio. I think they're pretty much okay. They learn like, 9 ground moves naturally, including Dig and Earthquake.
53-Persian. I have no idea. It's... just a normal type. Is it at all broken? Some new ability or move that makes it earn even more money. Like have a built in amulet coin.
55-Golduck. Some psychic secondary type. Its descriptions and movepool are built around being psychic... so it should be water/psychic! Give it a third evo already!
57-Primeape. Just fighting, which the Hit family, Sumo, Lucario and Breloom do better. Decent move pool and appearance, but a third form adding base 20 to some of its stats would be good.
59-Arcanine. Damn thing is already just a notch below legendary stat wise. (Slaking is the only non legend with better stats.) He's fine. And I love him.
73-Tentacruel. Already nasty and annoying. Good moveset, decent typing.
78-Rapidash. I dunno. Its already pretty good as is. Maybe a pegasus mode flying type, but then it'd basically be Charizard.
83-Farfetched. Two leeks. Badass. Of give it three, all Zoro style. A stat boost in general would be good for him.
85-Dodrio. A 1-head pre-evolution, maybe?
87-Dewgong. Already got a 3 form counterpart with the walrus... and is decent as is.
89-Muk. Let him learn flash. Yes. Stupid, useless flash, with its status altering effect. It would work well in his moveset.
91-Cloyster is already a monster tank. It could only get more monstrous with a third form. Doesnt really need it tho.
95-Onix. Got Steeliz already, fixed most of his problems.
97-Hypno. Maybe a form that... doesn't look like ass? Abra got 3 and they all look cool. Just... balance it out.
99-Kingler. Already have lots of other crabs. They've sort of figured him out eventually. Gave him crabhammer finally.NEXT FIFTY
101-Electrode. C'mon. We have like 80 varieties of pokeball now, but still only 2 pokeball critters? Sure they suck, but we're due some more, I think. Maybe just have them shift their designs a ton like the Unknown or Spinda. Master Ball variant!103. Eggsecutor. Holy crap, but Grass/Psychic type makes it weak to 7 element types! It's strong against another 6, but thats still a pretty lousy split. Maybe something to fix that? Rain dish would serve it well.
105. Marrowak. Already has THREE unique moves, that are type based, and Rock Head ability. He's good to go, doesn't need any more. A third chain in his evolution could probably be really badass though.
110. Weezing. Well, its JUST a poison type, which doesn't hurt anything.
Lickitounge, Ryhdon, and Tangela have all gotten upgrades recently. Tangela could still go another form, but...
115.Kangaskhan. Needs a damn pre-evolution already. Or a male form.It's BORN with a baby in its pouch! Unless my theory about them being the same family as Cubone is acurate, in which case they need a mutual pre-evo.
119.Seaking. Fairly generic fish. Starts pretty, turns ugly. Kinda wierd. Generic water type, almost anything could make it better, but its not really lacking anything specific.
121.Starmie. Recover AND Thunderbolt? On a water critter? Its already damn near perfect. I guess a secondary element to make it immune to the electric weakness would be good, though there's other critters that do it already.
122. Mr. Mime. Has a useless pre-evo… now give him something that doesn't look hideous as an evolution.
123. Scyther got a steel evolution, which fixes some flaws, but takes away the cool look. Alternate evo that keeps the badass blades? But he's pretty much a perfect swords dancer as is.
124. Jynx. Mr. Popo evolution.
127.Pinsir. Evo with stat upgrades? It's pretty much the parallel to Heracross, except Heracross does everything better.
128. Tauros. They gave Tauros a female variant in Militank that's better in pretty much every way. Could REALLY use something to balance them out. They can already use most of the HMs, including surf. Maybe a water buffallo evolution, give them some stab in that department?
129. Magikarp. It evolves into Gyrados. And its purpose is to be useless. But would another move or two really kill it? SURF even?
130. Gyrados. Yeah. No evolutions for you. Maybe dragon typing instead of flying? But then dragons would stop being RARE, I suppose.
131. Lapras. Evo? Pre-evo? Something. It's only got the one form. It kicks ass and is already great, but it's only got the one. I suppose the land slugs in gen 4 are counterparts, but… something with a smaller shell, or a bigger shell with more defense would be cool.
132.Ditto. Let it transform INSTANTLY instead of wasting its first turn. Or turn it into the same type as what it becomes. Or actually match the stats. Could be massivley improved. Also be cool? If Ditto were naturally shiny, so whatever they turned into was a bizarro color.
133.Eevee. Screw it. Gives us the other 10 variants and be done with it already.
139, 141, 142. Omastar, Kabutops, Aerodactyl. I dunno. They're decent and fossily and sturdy. I got nothing for them. They're already rare and practically 1 per game anyway, so they tend to have decent pools and stats already.
143. Snorlax. His pre-evo didn't change anything and he's already one of the crazy powerhouses in the game. I can't imagine what a BIGGER evolution would bring. Totally doesn't need it.
144, 145, 146, 150, and 151. Legendaries. Nothing to be done.[/hide]So. Thats the original gen.
Of the first 151, Sandslash, Parasect, Farfetched and Ditto are the ones I feel really need something to fix their battle capability. Kangaskhan and Lapras demand another visual just to flesh out the family. Golduck and Electrode I think need one just to better match their niches in the world and their flavor text. Marrowak and Mr. Mime would probably look cool with another evo under their belt. (If Sandshrew got one, Marrowak would need one.)
That's 8 that are ripe for more forms that have been waiting for 10 years… woulda been perfect to round out Diamond/Pearl to an even 500.
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Yeah i tend to like ground and fire pokemons and Marowak and Sandslash are some of those that i really like and i cant really use for the reasons that you said already.
I also have a list that i did on Excel lol to see how many i can get right, gonna post it here, i dont have typings and methods of evolution just predictions, here it is.
! Fearrow- evolution yeah i also have it my list, most ignored bird ingame, i actually use one as my HM flyier because i feel sorry for the bird, haha.
! Pikachu- Raichu is useless it has no endurance even though it has a kinda neat special attack, i want a split evolution for the rat since we know he comes in every generation.
! Sandslash- got it also.
! Fartfetchd- useless right now and one of the most badass flyiers in game it needs an evolution.
! Onix- pre evolution the thing is just too big, need an pre evolution wich could give him maybe some new moves,etc.
! Marowak- reason given above, its not bad but it need an evolution with a good stats boost to be better for competitive battling.
! Lickitung- pre evolution, i also think its kinda big, the evolution made it usable but i want a pre evolution.
! Jynx- make it usefull like its counterparts, Magmar and Electabuzz.
! Mime- same as Jynx.
! Pinsir- pre evolution to get one new attacks like some others and an evolution to make it usable, its not mandatory since he isnt bad but it has been kinda ignored.
! Tauros/Miltank- split pre evolution and maybe an evolution.
! Lapras- pre evolution.
! Sudwoodo- i think of it has Jynx/Mime/Electabuzz/Magmar counterpart so it also deserves an evolution to make it usefull.
! Girafarig- pre evolution.
! Dunsparce- evolution to make it usefull.
! Heracross- its a beast no need for evolution or stats boost i would like if we kinda got a split pre evolution for him and Pinsir.
! Ursaring- evolution, it has an awesome attack and ability but i would kinda like a normal/fightning evolution with a little boost on the defense stat.
! Skarmory- pretty usefull great tank i just want a pre evolution.
! Migthyena- kinda of a fan of the pokemon and i want it to be usefull so yeah a evolution with a stats boost would be awesome.
! Sableye- same kinda like it and needs and evolution, stat boost.
! Mawile- Sableye counterpart that also need an evolution for the same reasons.
! Torkoal- Needs an evolution, its not bad but a little stats boost would be cool, plus the turtle is awesome.
! Bannette- Why did they forget about it :(, it much cooler then Dusclops and its pretty much useless right now so evolution and stats boost would be welcome.
! Manectric- Stat boost evolution.
! Pachirusu- Poor thing was cheated out of an evolution, we need a assasine squirel evolution.
! Carnivine- Pre evolution and Evolution i felt it deserved a 3 pokemon line and it really needs to make it more usefull.Some more could get evolution like Kingler, Stantler but i dont want to see too many even the list i made some should be cut maybe but i dont know how many new pokemons we will have so it hard to make an estimate to what should be reasonable or not.
Robby i find it hard for Ditto or something like Luvdisc to get evolution they dont evolve gimmick pokemons usually, thats why i fear Farfechtd might not evolve either they kinda have their own gimmick, same with Spinda, Plusle and Minun, etc, ofc i also think its possible to evolve them and mantain the gimmick.