@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
This is what the fans think he needs. Nothing in the chapter says lets go train and learn haki
No.
Lich is absolutely right about these (for once about something).
Much to his own dismay.
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
This is what the fans think he needs. Nothing in the chapter says lets go train and learn haki
No.
Lich is absolutely right about these (for once about something).
Much to his own dismay.
yes like we said it since shabondy, impel down, the war, the flashback and the LAST PAGE have all been basically screaming "get stronger"
But there is no Haki training arc being hinted, that is pure fan speculation, due to us being hinted about haki since duval. Sure we might get a training arc on it, though not sure how you train ambition, but we also may just continue as is and learn it throughout story and just be stuck with Luffy walking around on hand lugging a tree behind him goku style.
Well, in my opinion there is definitely Haki training being hinted at. It's been getting mentioned a lot in the last couple of chapters… and we've been getting the general idea of what it can do. Then, in the war we see the big guys all using it, and the logias complaining about it.
Amazon Lily is introduced as an island full of Haki users, then Hancock with her King's disposition. It seems perfectly logical that this is all pointing towards Haki training.
Also... as for next crew mate... she doesn't really have an obvious position.. but I'm starting to lean towards Hancock >_<.
@JERK:
Lich is absolutely right about these (for once about something).
Much to his own dismay.
I'm right? Huzzah!
@Cyan:
Sorry, Usopp fills the position.
Maybe, but after Enies Lobby, I prefer to think differently.
Obviously Luffy is going to get training in his king´s haki.
I mean a chapter ending with ´´I AM WEAK´´
Just shouts for training. And since hancock maybe knows how to use her kings haki and her haki she´s the perfect teacher..
So either she will come with luffy as nakama OR train him on this island to make him stronger.
Maybe, but after Enies Lobby, I prefer to think differently.
The point of a flawed everyman character is to get better as the adventure goes on.
You don't ass another when he gets past his problems. That makes no sense. Not that Usopp is done developing at all.
Not that Perona fills that spot because she's not a noble coward, she's just a hedonistic coward.
@JERK:
Lich is absolutely right about these (for once about something). Much to his own dismay.
I agree, but I don't expect much of it to be on screen. Oda makes a point of drawing what he thinks boys want to see, and he has never once shown a training arc. What he has shown, however, are snippets of people training and/or sparring with each other, as seen with Coby/Meppo, Zoro, Luffy, etc. I can imagine Oda showing Luffy spar with Jinbei and the Amazons in the arena, see him train on his own, and/or see Hancock or someone explain Ambition a little more so he can pick it up on his own, but direct training from one person to another as a way of filling a few chapters is just something I don't ever expect to see Oda do. Anyway, yeah, I figure that is one of the primary reasons Oda brought Luffy back to Amazon Lily.
I agree, but I don't expect much of it to be on screen. Oda makes a point of drawing what he thinks boys want to see, and he has never once shown a training arc. What he has shown, however, are snippets of people training and/or sparring with each other, as seen with Coby/Meppo, Zoro, Luffy, etc. I can imagine Oda showing Luffy spar with Jinbei and the Amazons in the arena, see him train on his own, and/or see Hancock or someone explain Ambition a little more so he can pick it up on his own, but direct training from one person to another as a way of filling a few chapters is just something I don't ever expect to see Oda do. Anyway, yeah, I figure that is one of the primary reasons Oda brought Luffy back to Amazon Lily.
Or Luffy takes someone who with him that knows Haki to teach him as he goes. But that's wishful fan thinking.
@JERK:
The point of a flawed everyman character is to get better as the adventure goes on.
You don't ass another when he gets past his problems. That makes no sense. Not that Usopp is done developing at all.Not that Perona fills that spot because she's not a noble coward, she's just a hedonistic coward.
That's exactly the point. If he's a disgrace in the word's natural meaning, then he wouldn't always be coming back to fight. Look at Buggy.
And even the other way around: Let's say Usopp is a disgrace, but developing; then why wouldn't Perona be able to grow a decent characterice?
That's exactly the point. If he's a disgrace in the word's natural meaning, then he wouldn't always be coming back to fight. Look at Buggy.
Do you seriously think Oda would make a character like that on the main crew whose sole unchanging purpose is to suck??
And even the other way around: Let's say Usopp is a disgrace, but developing; then why wouldn't Perona be able to grow a decent characterice?
Then your saying he'll make a completely redundant character.
Halfmetal-Lich may finally be sobering up, but you're still in full on crazy mode.
I don't see why Luffy can't develop his own new set of techniques (some involving haki) off screen and showcase them in a future fight without being trained by Hancock or Jinbei.
Do you seriously think Oda would make a character like that on the main crew whose sole unchanging purpose is to suck??
coughusoppcough.
Well, some characters are good for the fighting, others to make us laugh.
All are useful in their own way.
coughusoppcough.
Well, some characters are good for the fighting, others to make us laugh.
All are useful in their own way.
We've It's already established that Usopp is developing. This isn't the same can't do much Usopp from East Blue. Just because the majority of opponents make him look like he sucks doesn't mean he hasn't grown.
If you're honestly ignoring all of the growth Usopp's got and think Oda's got him in the story just to be a loser you're an idiot.
coughusoppcough.
Well, some characters are good for the fighting, others to make us laugh.
All are useful in their own way.
"sole unchanging purpose"
COUGH COUGH COUGH
@JERK:
Halfmetal-Lich may finally be sobering up, but you're still in full on crazy mode.
Nah buddy, I was always sober, just enjoyed throwing out random theories. I actually don't give a damn about any of this.
This isn't the same can't do much Usopp from East Blue
Really now ?
Well, let's talk about it again after the crew gets back together again, then we will see if he really can do something or not cause for now….yeah, really can't do much. (sorry, he's a fatty now, he can do that at least)
Really now ?
Well, let's talk about it again after the crew gets back together again, then we will see if he really can do something or not cause for now….yeah, really can't do much. (sorry, he's a fatty now, he can do that at least)
You're an idiot. Get out.
Really now ?
Well, let's talk about it again after the crew gets back together again, then we will see if he really can do something or not cause for now….yeah, really can't do much. (sorry, he's a fatty now, he can do that at least)
Are you denying Usopp's purpose as an everyman and a dynamic character?
Really now ?
Well, let's talk about it again after the crew gets back together again, then we will see if he really can do something or not cause for now….yeah, really can't do much. (sorry, he's a fatty now, he can do that at least)
Fatsopp is most likely a gag. He'll be back to normal by the time the crew gets together.
I think the latest anime episodes confirmed what we all already knew..
Perona is not joining.
Zoro starts a fight with a whole ton of black figures… perona wants some slaves.... put 1 and 1 together
I think the latest anime episodes confirmed what we all already knew..
Perona is not joining.
Zoro starts a fight with a whole ton of black figures… perona wants some slaves.... put 1 and 1 together
Go discuss that in the anime subforum you …......................!!!
I agree with Brennen.exe on the training thing.
I think there'll be a timeskip so we won't be bothered with a training arc, and maybe later we'll get some panel flashbacks à la garp training flashbacks we got.
All the Perona fans who take the anime seriously secretly shit their pants.
Meh, about the whole "fuck the anime" attitude, you never know, Oda is usually asked about by Toei with stuff like this
It's been banned from this thread though. Because who cares about the anime.
And believe me, I would love to rub this in the Perona fans faces.
But why? :S.
I just don't get it, Oda has stated that Toei asks him for confirmation on stuff multiple times.
But alright, the mods say, I follow.
Bows gently and then tap dances out of the thread
Go discuss that in the anime subforum you …......................!!!
Considering that it is going to be in the manga, but was just in the anime first (which is weird…) I think in this situation mentioning a scene from the anime is fair.
Considering that it is going to be in the manga, but was just in the anime first
No, it isn't.
Shut up about the anime, the anime is irrelevant.
Your name is fitting…
Meh... I just don't understand why an level of discussion should be hindered simply because it was in the anime before the manga.... ah well. These forums are whack
So is yours
You just messed up with Jerk Disease…
You're so...
! Dead
Your name is fitting…
Meh... I just don't understand why an level of discussion should be hindered simply because it was in the anime before the manga.... ah well. These forums are whack
Yes, who knows why we prefer the discussion of the works of the author compared to an interpretation of that authors work.
It's a real puzzle.
Your name is fitting…
Meh... I just don't understand why an level of discussion should be hindered simply because it was in the anime before the manga.... ah well. These forums are whack
What shithole forum are you used to where they allow filler in the real discussions?
Your name is fitting…
Meh… I just don't understand why an level of discussion should be hindered simply because it was in the anime before the manga.... ah well. These forums are whack
Its easy to infer, what purpose will that anime thread serve then? If anime- manga are not divided on this forum, we'll get stuff mixed up all over. Then discussions would be around ''this is filler, not canon'' justifications. So better to keep anime to its own thread.
Anyways, I do agree with your idea atleast, Perona wont join
Anime only or Anime dominant fans are kind of like special needs kids, they just….don't get it. They don't get something integral to being a social functioning human being and they just can't operate in the real world (here) without freaking out and getting frustrated.
So we need to keep them in their own area, a safe environment where they can confuse canon without loud noises and mean people.
@JERK:
Anime only or Anime dominant fans are kind of like special needs kids, they just….don't get it. They don't get something integral to being a social functioning human being and they just can't operate in the real world (here) without freaking out and getting frustrated.
So we need to keep them in their own area, a safe environment where they can confuse canon without loud noises and mean people.
What about discussion of Anime that doesn't come from a Manga?
The entire act of preferring the anime and/or not reading the manga is a major sign of needing special care, calming colors, and big boy diapers.
What about discussion of Anime that doesn't come from a Manga?
Did you understand what JD wrote?
He said:
Fans that don't like to read the manga from where the Anime comes from and/or give priority to the Anime instead of its source are retarded
I asked:
What about animes that don't come from manga?
In essence, what I mean to know is if he hates the mentality of fans who only like Anime overall or the mentality of fans who prioritize Anime over its source material.
Perona is meh don't really know if she'll join or not, she seems to have some sort of purpose outside of the "lets see what there doing now" cover story format Oda likes to do so yeah. Now Hancock joining is likely but there are a lot of over world issues that complicate her joining,I would say that she is too powerful and whole throw the crew out of balance but then again just about if not every female paramecia devil user has some over the top hax power so meh on that. Also Sabo isn't dead.
He said:
Fans that don't like to read the manga from where the Anime comes from and/or give priority to the Anime instead of its source are retarded
I asked:
What about animes that don't come from manga?In essence, what I mean to know is if he hates the mentality of fans who only like Anime overall or the mentality of fans who prioritize Anime over its source material.
It's about adaptations, not medium. Cowboy Bebop and Champloo are all about that anime.
Oh great
Thought for a second you were a pretensions artistic guy that hated Anime, thank god
There hasn't really been much decent original anime recently anyway. Most of the current crop is creepy or terrible.
very agreed. Nothing has really grabbed my interest since Gurren Lagann
Same. Current season is awful in that regard.
yes like we said it since shabondy, impel down, the war, the flashback and the LAST PAGE have all been basically screaming "get stronger"
But there is no Haki training arc being hinted, that is pure fan speculation, due to us being hinted about haki since duval. Sure we might get a training arc on it, though not sure how you train ambition, but we also may just continue as is and learn it throughout story and just be stuck with Luffy walking around on hand lugging a tree behind him goku style.
I like to picture it as Luffy running through the jungles of AL with Nyon strapped to his back in a blue backpack, as she goes "Run! Nyon. A pirate's strength flows from the haki."
But that might just be me.
I liked East of Eden.
But yes, last really awesome anime "original" I can think of is TTGL as well.
I like to picture it as Luffy running through the jungles of AL with Nyon strapped to his back in a blue backpack, as she goes "Run! Nyon. A pirate's strength flows from the haki."
But that might just be me.
is this followed by Luffy and Hancock kissing and we later find out they are siblings?
I'm pretty bummed that Durarara!! is ending this week. I hope there's a second season somewhere down the line.
Since we're back to present time, the countdown clock for Boa and Perona may just be in the single digits for chapters.
Wash your neck AGOG.
When you have your inevitable victory, how will you celebrate?
@JERK:
Since we're back to present time, the countdown clock for Boa and Perona may just be in the single digits for chapters.
Wash your neck AGOG.
Yeah wash your potatoes AGOG.